Women treat men men like job applications.

But do men ever stop and think:
>Are women honestly worth it?
>What do women have to offer?

Seriously though, what is the point of having a gf/wife??

>>81883529 (OP)
Logically there is no point and it is all risk with no upside. I used to do it because I could not control my horniness. As I am getting older I am starting to be able to control it. I may try race mixing or homosexuality as a new way to find fulfillment because being straight is a surefire way to ruin my life

>>81883529 (OP)
>what is the point of having a gf/wife??
Not a lot unless your goal is reproduction. If that doesn't make you feel anything you have absolutely nothing to gain by it.

>>81883549
The crazy thing is women are deluded enough to think they are that important, worthy, and special that men have to grovel before them and they can treat men like job applications.

Men need to realize it's like: Bitch, you're a used up hoe with no skills, no character, no personality, no values, no nothing except an insane body count and tons of baggage, and you're here evaluating and judging me like I'm some sort of job application. Who the fuck are you? Let's talk about that instead. Especially when women are a liability to men. It should be the other way around but it isn't.

>>81883549
Jewish hands wrote this post to psy-op you into becoming a gay race-mixer

>>81883561
Artificial wombs will save us because this is clown world upside down nonsense.

>>81883598
Not a lot of men will utilize it. Most men don't give a shit about reproduction and you know it. They care about the female first and foremost and raise the child out of a sense of duty, not because of a biological urge which is why blacks bail on their offspring so often.

>>81883588
Well technically they are important and worthy enough to treat men like job applications. Society is currently structured this way. Women are better at collectivization so they are increasing their power each decade. Women age 20-30 now out earn men and are more than 60% of college graduates. I am getting to an age where womens hotness is not offset by their lack of skills, character, and personality. When I was in my 20s I could not resist it despite the clearly unfair nature of the arrangement. Women at 30 and above have the same delusional standards but they look weird and used up in most cases which makes it easier to resist. Men are so horny that there is no way to fix this except maybe a dollar collapse but based on how the entire globe is turning into a gynocracy I doubt that would change anything if I am being honest.
>>81883592
No the hands of a 30 year old man who had his life ruined by three consecutive white women, one of which was morbidly obese, wrote this post. Give it a few more years and see how you feel. You cannot imagine how cold and ruthless white women are until they stab you in the back

>>81883627
>Men are so horny that there is no way to fix this except
This is why women whine about porn, video games, AI, and whatever outlets men have. It's not enough they have all the privilege and power. They want men to have no way out from the sick game they've created. So many men buckle and also attack things like porn and video games. They don't realize how they look like they have a leash and are on their knees supporting women like a boomer husband backing up her karen wife because the woman is always right.

>>81883529 (OP)
>Seriously though, what is the point of having a gf/wife??
It's probably just natural for normies after all it's why we're all here. Besides breeding it's obvious why we want a significant other to love and that loves us it just feels good and it helps with breeding. I don't think I can love anyone in that way though it's just not for me.

>>81883592
Becoming a gay race mixer is an ancient aryan tradition. Lots of huwhite guys in Thailand doing just that.

>>81883714
>breeding it's obvious why we want a significant other to love and that loves us
But that's the point. Men have missed the forest for the trees. Women don't want children. They don't want to breed. They don't offer any love or companionship. They just want to be dicked down by chad. So what do they really offer???

>>81883529 (OP)
Had a w*men tell me I need to quit my job. Quit drinking. Quit smoking. Buy her a homestead. Get her pregnant("god told her this"). She literally never offered anything. Now she avoids me when I see her out and about.(She's my neighbor)

>>81883770
>I need to quit my job. Quit drinking. Quit smoking. Buy her a homestead. Get her pregnant("god told her this"). She literally never offered anything
Entitlement. Women are totally entitled and delusional. Because that's how they were raised. No one ever game them a reality check and ego check so they could learn.

>>81883661
I agree with you. The men who attack porn and video games or simp for their Karen wife are why men can never win. Half of men get it and half of men are guard dogs for women and the status quo. Meanwhile women are in almost complete alignment on how to increase their power and standing. It is over for men.
>>81883770
I have a homestead and every woman who has lived here or tried to live here has hated it and demanded I sell it before leaving me. Never believe that bullshit. Women want condos or to live with their parents where the princess treatment can continue

I mean, isnt dating supposed to be fun? Why else would anyone even do it if there is no enjoyment in it?

Kinda reminds me of my time with World of Warcraft, I quit the game when I realised it had essentially become a job for me, something I did every day out of some responsibility rather than for fun.

>>81883627
My (white) gf gets extremely upset when I tell her the patriarchy isn't a thing anymore. She can't fathom that being a man is to be disposable in the modern age

>>81883982
She sounds like a real treat. Make sure you do not tell her any secrets or spend any more than you would spend on a prostitute because when it ends it will be a real eye opening experience for you

>>81883790
>>81883920
She literally has no money. Lives in a tiny apt if you even want to call it that and smokes ridiculous amounts of weed. And drinks. And maybe does meth. And posts religious b.s. on YouTube. And is a lesbian. And might have schizophrenia . But I need to get my shit together for her.....

>>81883529 (OP)
You think about it when you're older and less driven by the desire to get laid.

>>81883982
Dude if your woman unironically uses the word patriarchy it is already over for your relationship, she has been poisoned by feminism.

>>81883529 (OP)
>Women treat men men like job applications.
No they don't, it's always these fuckin nerds on here who treat women and dating like job application

>HI!!! I HAVE A 5.0 GPA AND I MAKE 350K A YEAR AND I OWN A 1500000 SQUARE METER HOUSE AND NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS

like bro what the fuck is even your personality and hobbies if you even have any

>>81884028
>>81884004
We sort of agree to disagree about it. We love each other enough to push past it. But yeah she also gets mad when I tell her she is eating agitation propaganda designed to push men and women even further apart than they already are.
Something about her lived experience not being propaganda, which is valid, but she also spends all day watching sexist feminism memes (and dog videos) on insta, which sort of proves my point lmao.

>>81884148
I am saying this with nothing but sincerity and compassion for your situation, your situation is doomed. Whenever the switch flips in her (a lot of women get biological ick if they are with one man for too long without getting pregnant) all of these little quips and persuasive comments will come back to haunt you. No amount of logic or reason can offset the media she is consuming because women reason differently than men. They do not care about the strongest argument, their opinions are based on whichever argument has consensus which will be dictated by the media she consumed and society at large not anything you can say or do. If you like having sex with her stop trying to persuade her about anything because that will make your relationship last longer. Good luck man

>>81883529 (OP)
>>What do women have to offer?
Hmm... Let's consider this. Maybe form an optimistic perspective.
>Love
>Companionship
>Sexual access
>Permanently raises your social status
>Permanently raises your attractiveness to other women
>Some additional income
>You have someone to split doing chores with
Is it worth it? Eh. Some of those things may not even be on the table. And you'd have to consider the negatives too. So you decide. Feel free to tell me about more benefits that I forgot to mention.

>>81884233
Yeah that's sound advice.
It's just frustrating because she talks about all these women's problems that are the patriarchy's (men's) fault. And then when I bring up men's problems she also blames those on patriarchy.

So if everybody's problems are men's fault, you're actively deleting all accountability from women, which by proxy assigns no agency to women. Its a dogshit ideology that kneecaps it's own cause and is akin to self-defeatism and learned helplessness.
FUCK

I haven't told her any of that, though

>>81884028
>patriarchy
How is this still a thing. Do they know it's 2025

>>81884405
She just says LOOK WHO'S PRESIDENT when I try to say that shit doesn't exist anymore. As if Trump doesn't kiss up to women any chance he can get

>>81883529 (OP)
Most men just want to stick their dick in something, some men are extremely desperate to do this, and will stick their dick in anything that let's them. This gives women the overinflated ego that they have. Men that are married know that a miserable wife won't give access to the magical hole, which gave birth to the saying, happy wife happy life.

>>81884088
and what is the personality of an antisocial drug dealer who beats women and murders children for stepping on his shoes? what are his hobbies besides smoking dope, playing Madden and fucking? don't try that bullshit here you cunt

>>81883529 (OP)
If you're a Millennial or Zoomer, women are literally not worth it. Now maybe future generations will be raised better but the damage has already been done for our generations. Our male monkey brain is programmed to want to fuck a female body so more children are made but you can control this urge will self-discipline and insight. Idealistic fags have a really hard time letting their fantasies go but it's the right thing to do if you actually want a peaceful decent life. You have to understand you're NEVER getting what you actually want and the chase for it will just leave you with more pain and humiliation. Ask any divorced boomer or gen x.

>>81883529 (OP)
>What do women have to offer?
PIV sex. The reason so many women are picky is because sex doesnt even feel that good to us so we are just not that horny. I mean oral sex and fingering can feel good but penetrative sex isnt as pleasurable as porn makes it seem

>>81883618
True male biology is we are programmed to sex females. Females are programmed for child birth/ resources/ social status all for survival and reproductive success. Men chase social status and resources just for ego (broken) or to display capability of reproductive success for females. That's why so many of us fantasize of abandoning society and living in the woods alone like a hermit and women don't.

>>81883529 (OP)
A constant supply of sex if she is willing. As long as she doesn't divorce you, it's cheaper than using a whore, and you are less likely to get a disease and can fuck her condom free. BUT make sure you get a vasectomy first. Also, you can freeze your sperm too, in case you wanna have kids later. But this way you get no "accidents".

Some women are cool and you can have an emotional relationship with and that type of love can feel really good. But you don't need it, and you could logically say it's not worth the risk. It really depends how much you like sex and the emotional feeling of love, and your risk tolerance. And if you are willing to be considerate of other people's feelings and will to make reasonable changes in your life.

>>81883529 (OP)
I'm 40 and I realized there really is no point in playing this rat race. I don't really blame women; the state of relationships is just a result of our hyper competitive culture and extreme paranoia.
So relationships are not worth it because of the return on investment.
Women have little to offer because anything they've gained can be gained independently. Combining incomes to increase purchasing power isn't really a thing anymore.

>>81884568
I kind of feel bad for women because yeah sex doesn't feel that great for you guys, and you even have to jerk your clit around while being fucked. I wonder if it's because back in our hunter-gatherer days women would just have the tribe run a train on them, so they had to have a "slow burn" when it comes to sexual pleasure.

>>81883529 (OP)
>what is the point of having a gf/wife??
0 fucking zero

>>81883598
Who is "us"? You are poor. Artificial wombs will have the same impact on your life as underground billionaire cuck caves.

>>81884585
>That's why so many of us fantasize of abandoning society and living in the woods alone like a hermit and women don't
And woman can't be without man. They from are dependent on society.

>>81884416
Hmm. Would a society of 2000 people, with 1 emperor, 9 kings, 990 male slaves and 1000 free women be considered a patriarchy? Men hold ultimate authority but 99% of men have no rights at all compared to the average woman. How would feminists describe this arrangement to the male slaves? How would they change it if 99% of men have no political power whatsoever? Lecturing anyone would be pointless.

>>81883661
>They want men to have no way out from the sick game they've created
This is man create porn and videogame. I don't care about videogame it's acceptable when you grow up but porn. It's incredible bullshit. Porn is created for entertainment but this faggots create standards about how people should looking (shaved body, big dicks) and what to do in sex normally (unnatural moans, stupid ahegao faces, anal sex, choke with a dick, drink piss and etc.)

>>81884568
>PIV sex.
I would like PiV sex but you're wrong if you think a guy's sexuality is that narrow. There are so many different types of sexual acts. Your little clitty doesn't have to be neglected.
>sex doesnt even feel that good to us
At least you're honest but I don't even know about that. More men are virgins that women. More men are single than women. Women have higher body counts than men. Women fuck more while men are left playing with themselves alone.
>we are just not that horny
You can just admit that men that are attractive and in shape would get you more sexual aroused than a fat balding slob.
>>81884729
>I wonder if it's because back in our hunter-gatherer days women
Back in the hunter-gatherer days women were hornier because they were sedentary. Women had to move and use their bodies. Women that workout have stronger sex drives than women that are sedentary. Everyone talks about how men have lower testosterone levels in modern times. Okay, well what about women? They have even lower testosterone levels! And they are on SSRIs.

Women are supposed to be tough and strong. But the combination of sedentary lifestyle, lower testosterone levels, exposure to certain xenoestrogens and endocrine disruptors have made women depressed, weak, and sexually weak.

>>81885072
*because they weren't sedentary
Too many typos but whatever

>>81884360
>she talks about all these women's problems that are the patriarchy's (men's) fault. And then when I bring up men's problems she also blames those on patriarch
All is correct. This is man building this society. Most of the time, women were on the sidelines. It's normal to blame men in everything. But these men have great power like politics, billionaires, church and etc.

>>81885264
So blaming all men and shitposting in an endless circle of hateful rhetoric is the answer? Because right now that's all feminism has accomplished

>>81884463
>no wife happy life
That's correct.

>>81883529 (OP)
Yeah, it's all pointless bullshit. Especially if a guy knows that he can never afford kids, or even get pussy. I don't want to be divorce-raped.
For me, I just want a frequent sex partner. Even if she's old. If she caught feelings, fine. But I am never marrying, or having kids.

>>81885275
These are women. Don't expect anything worthwhile from them. They want to live comfortable it's all. They even pretend to be fools and weak so that they can be taken care of. They exhibit the traits that are inherent in children. A man will take care of a child, because he is weak and does not know this world.
Sad but not sad.

>>81885072
>Women fuck more while men are left playing with themselves alone
Because for woman that to get sex only need to spread their legs.