Thread 81930817

There's no way people above 1 are real

>>81930817 (OP)
I'm friends with a girl on discord who can only do 4. Her IQ is tested below 85, but she still rejected me. KEK.

>>81930817 (OP)
Supposedly a lot of famous animators and those that design things like cars can see at a 1 and are able to have the thing they are designing in their head and able to look at it from whatever angle they want to at free will. Some of us were just born better

>>81930841
A lot of animators and artists are also apparently completely unable to visualise things in their head. Baffling.

can you LITERALLY see the apple or is it just an expression for visualization? because in reality im a 5 but i can obviously imaginee things in my head- i don't actually literally see them though

Find it hard to imagine them, do you?

>>81930860
not 'literally' it's more like having a song playing in your head, you're not 'literally' hearing it

>>81930817 (OP)
I'm a 2 most of the time, and that's with my eyes closed, I have a hard time visualizing things in my head while my eyes are taking in information.
I can achieve a 1 if I really try, but it's not the natural state of my mind's eye.

>>81930841
>>81930850
I'm 1 but I dont know how to draw or animate

>>81930817 (OP)
1 are people who only live to consoom and clap like seals to marvel and Disney products

I'm a 3, my minds eye is "noisy" like TV static. My wife is autistic and she's a 5 but can also outwardly project those images. For example she can visually see and feel the apple rotating in her hand.

>>81931017
what a useless diagram that conveys nothing veridical at all

mines 5
i have incel brain as well as body

>>81931046
there's this if you're interested

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vividness_of_Visual_Imagery_Questionnaire

>>81931033
Im a 5 and went to school for art for 12 years

>>81931046
i think you lack the ability to understand abstracts which is arguably worse

>>81930817 (OP)
So under normal circumstances I cannot create images in my head. I always thought visualize and picture in your head were figures of speech. I do dream so I thought my dreams are what people normally see. However, people often described thinking visually as a flash of an image inside their head. It wasn't until I took the medication mirtazapine that I understood what others experience normally.

About an hour after taking a pill I'd go to bed and when I'd close my eyes I'd see a flash of an image inside my head, it was nothing like dreaming. I'd describe dreaming as movie like whereas this was more like looking at a photo inside my head. It was like number 1 in ops pic. Each image lasted less than a second and wasn't connected to the previous. When I'd open my eyes the images would stop. I'd lay there close my eyes for a few seconds, see the images, and then open them. I'd do this whilst looking at the clock too so I wasn't dreaming, and again it was nothing like dreaming. Imagine scrolling through images on your phone, it was like that but in my head. Eventually I'd fall asleep and when I'd wake up a few hours later the images had stopped and I was back to blackness. I'm not sure if it was the serotonin or it acting on the histamine receptors. Apparently mirtazapine isn't like SSRIs, and instead floods much of the receptors. SSRIs never caused that for me.

It makes me wonder why I can't create images under normal circumstances maybe it's trauma related?

>>81931207
do something about it shitlord, find me in the street and gun me down

>>81930817 (OP)
i am unironically number 1, i only found out other people actually saw things like a year or two ago

>>81931212
I can do this when I'm nodding off on dph. Drowsiness unlocks this ability but it's not a flash but like how those artists can see the item thing in various 3d angles. Similarly I can hear my own inner monologue as clear as someone talking above behind me when I'm high AF off an edible. Idk wtf the disconnect is but I think I prefer not having this on 24/7 like others do, sounds like torture desu.

>>81930817 (OP)
How do you think people who were born blind "visualize" things OP?

>>81931216
eventually a new hitler will rise up and my hands will be blood free

>>81930817 (OP)
I can imagine things, but it's like the upper-right side of my inner vision is broken or nonexistent. I imagine those above 1 have varying degrees of this kind of brain damage. It's amazing how the brain can retain basic survival skills with deep damages to its structure

>>81931295
I like to think that somehow DNA memories pop up into the blind persons dreams and from there they realize which of the visuals they can see based on that.

>>81931301
you sound like the kind of person that would sit and wait for their hero to show up
i'm not gonna stand here and wait

>>81930817 (OP)
It'll be very funny in 5-10 years when everyone is basically a 4 or a 5 because they need AI shit slop to visualize an apple for them

>>81930841
I design a lot of stuff and do cad crap for a living. A lot of my job involves staring at the wall and manipulating things in my head to see how it'd work out prior to drawing it.
My gf on the other hand is a 5. She claims she cannot visualize things in her head, despite being decently intelligent and mildly creative. But I fear she may not actually have a soul and what that would spell for any offspring.

>>81931395
Do you have memories of a past existence, through dreams or deeply instilled in your memories?

>>81930817 (OP)
i still remember the first time i saw this chart and i was filled with dissapointment
why does anything other than 1 even exist
just kill them

>>81930838
Good. Imagine reproducing with such an NPC.

>>81930838
I can't be attracted to a girl significantly dumber than me no matter how attractive she is

>>81930817 (OP)
People who can't think in their head and have no inner monologue are scarier honestly.

most blind mathematicians are geometers
you don't need to literally see an object in order to see it in your mind's eye

>>81931046
>useless
It serves primarily to get (You)s

>>81930860
I can see it in my mind, but if I really concentrate, I can make objects interact with the enviroment.
when I was a kid, I used to look out of the car window and imagine a small spiderman racing the other cars trying to keep up with the car I was in. but it requires full concentration
>>81931043
whoa, feel? I can't do that. but I can sometimes have phantom feelings, like a spider in my leg or a phone vibrating. But these were illusions, not my control

>>81930817 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia#Tetris_effect
I was getting these often before my abilify, gif related.

>>81931046
yeah I feel like it is entirely people not understanding the question the same way due to vague wording

>>81930860

In a similar thread a while ago, some guy tried to LARP and say that he could see a whole 4K resolution movie in his head and that he had entire world's developed. It was such a fucking comical farce. In reality, when people say they "see" something in their head, they're seeing it with their mind's eye which does not provide the same fidelity or type of colloquial visualization that an actual, physical retina does. There is something that is visible though and for me personally, it's like a simultaneous mixture #1 thru #4 in OP's picture. The more I focus, the more fidelity I can attain and less shadowy obscurity that there is, but it's never been like seeing with my actual, literal eyes. The images of the "mind's eye" are more approximate to afterimages that the brain can conjure up at will - this is what we call visualization or the imagination - as opposed to a personal movie theater in your head.

>>81930817 (OP)
dude I can only see 4 I swear this is a psyop

>>81930817 (OP)
I feel like this can be learned, no? I just close my eyes and see the last type of apple I had, or even just replay me looking at it when I prepared it. Today it was a McIntosh, so a stronger/darker red compared to the photo in #1.

>>81933518

I mean if you are able to see something, anything I suppose it's possible to "increase the resolution of the image" by practice.

I wouldn't know, though. Been a solid 5 all my life despite being somewhat artistic and I guess otherwise a visually oriented person. It's called aphantasia, some ppl just can't generate mental imagery wilfully, same goes for "imagining" sounds, haptic sensations (warming rays of the Sun on your arm or w/e), flavors or anything of the sort. Our brains just aren't wired for that.

Some people on this thread mentioned being able to see stuff when nodding off/falling asleep. Same goes for me but I've no control over the imagery. Usually it's just a shifting face in the middle of my field of vision. Oh, and I have to keep my eyes the tiniest bit open for the image to appear. If I close my eyes it's all darkness until I fall to sleep and have dreams.

On the polar opposite end of the spectrum I've a friend who can imagine and visualize a red apple whether his eyes are open or closed. He can then proceed to rotate and manipulate the imagined object like he was using Blender.