I'm a late 30s male who doesn't use social media anymore once it stopped being fun.
I occasionally look up my exes to compare my life and see if what they complained about/why they left/why I dumped them had any impact on their life.
For refference why I am at in life
>late 30s
>Union trade worker who gets paid well, also have a degree
>Own a modest 3 bedroom starter home and 2 cars.
>Average shape, above average height, do okay with women.
>Have a dog
>I have a polarizing personality
my drawback is while I have lots of acquantences, my family is all gone and I don't have many close friends. This isn't uncommon now a days especially at my age, but I get scared what can happen if a horrible accident happens

I feel I have set a realistic life for myself and achieved a realistic comfortable path to coast on. It is lonely, but I am unsure how much of that is me refusing to adapt to social media landscapes that aren't fun, people sucking now, or me being too reluctant to open up to new people.

What I found looking up my exes....

>polarizing personality
Sounds like you're a fat fucking retard. Your mom was a whore and her skeleton still licks the scat from negro anuses.

>>81930893 (OP)
...big black kids

>>81930893 (OP)
she doesn't use social media except for a few niche sites i can't access

>>81930893 (OP)
>have a polarizing personality
You narcissists are fucking deranged

>>81930925
>muh narcissism

>>81930893 (OP) (cont)
one of my exes I almost married (I refuse to ever get married now).
We ended up splitting cause she developed an eating disorder and after 2 relapses she became cruel and abusive and ugly.
>Moved to a capital city to work for a fashion designer
>No longer works there
>Teaches sewing classes.
>Lives in an apartment, no clue if she has a roommate or not.
>Still has an eating disorder and got an ugly girlboss dyke cut. No relationship.
>Has a fashion consulting company but unsure how much of that is real or social media play pretend.

When with me she had a stable managerial job with design elements but it wasn't fashion, all I asked was she eat, treat me kindly, give me sex, and be realistic with goals in life.
I wonder if she is happier larping as "muh girlboss fashionista" than she was in a loving relationship with me.
She isn't in the fashion world big leagues at all, but she has a few little w's under her belt.
Had we stayed together or gotten married we'd have a home and be 20 minutes from the beach.

>>81930912
>Sounds like you're a fat fucking retard. Your mom was a whore and her skeleton still licks the scat from negro anuses.
Ahhhhh so you have a polarizing personality as well.

Did she get raped in left? Video?

another "op only wanted to talk about himself" thread

>>81930893 (OP) (cont)
Another one of my "exes" became a lawyer.
I use ex as loosely as possible. We had a toxic fuck buddy type thing cause she was a goth girl who was too cool to ever be a slave to a relationship again.
After a massive blow out fight I cut contact with her completely. Made the last semester of college akward cause we were in the same class and had to compete against each other. My team won, her team lost.
She wrote me an email after graduation saying she was proud of me. I called her a drunk and said I'll pretend this didn't happen.
I moved to start my new life elsewhere, didn't really even think about her till one day we ended up in the same online community and she was getting into a pissing match with trolls she should not be screwing with for the approval of an e-celeb.... and I end up finding out she moved to my area
>Decide "okay I am gonna be a good guy, let the past go, give her a hand"
>Text her, tell her "what the fuck are you doing" and show her all her weak points in finding crap like her posting nudes of herself and other embarassing trash
>Meet up in person and get along
>give her a plan to try and mitigate some of her damage, tell her to knock it off and avoid needless slap fights
She asked me at the end of hanging out if I ever thought about her or wanted to reconnect.
>No, not really. I was pretty mad at you but I did miss having the friend I used to have. What about you?
>I chose this law school because of you and I hoped to see you again.
Say goodbye and before you think "how sweet" that isn't who this girl is. She cares about her image first, is hyper competitive and doesn't care about others and marks it as a point of pride. She loves getting attention then not recipricating cause it makes her feel powerful. She often will set Grand Plans in action that fuck up midway through then gets pissed and resorts to seduction to get her way. If any of it was "real" that realness reverted back to her actively trying to seek "wins" over me..

>>81931000
Yup, and if you don't like it don't reply

>>81931065 (cont)
>If any of it was "real" that realness reverted back to her actively trying to seek "wins" over me..
because I was the one who cut all ties, I was the one who beat her team in class, I was the one who suggested her law school, and overall she saw me as inferior to her, yet also had a strange draw and attraction to me.
>Texting with her in the future becomes a pain part me going through issues, part her trying to be too cool for everything
>Get in a contest for weightloss with her. Win the contest. She is visibly bothered and tries weasling out cause woman....
>Finally a game night I arranged for the community we were both part of is set for D&D. I ask her for help, and in the test run doing this she gets way too drunk and starts sperging in the middle of it and the worse part is no one knows if this is part of her character or real.
She gets embaraased the next day and decides to leave and I am left explaining what the fuck is going on and why the fuck she rambled so much about the history between me and her. Explain we kinda but not really dated, she is an alcoholic, then she got pissed cause I explained that.
>She texts me to meet up and get lunch
>You'd think "oh she is gonna apologize for fucking up her role in the event and making an ass of herself"
nope, she starts to go that route but the moment shame kicks in she starts sperging and demanding I appologize to her.
Appologize cause I don't care and appologies cost nothing. She goes to my appartment cause she says she needs to take a nap, ends up watching netflix and trying to get me to watch it with her and be flirty while I try and clean, then once I sit with her for a while she out of no where gets up and leaves and gets mad again.

We don't talk, that bridge is fully burned, even noticed she removed me as a "steam friend"

>>81930893 (OP)
I don't understand how you anons can deal with having exes. If my current partner left me I'd be thinking of them for the rest of my life. I genuinely think I'm incapable of ever moving on.

>>81931065

So what is new with her now
>To my pleasant surprise she is very hard to look up and took some of my advice, but I found out she has an equivalent home to mine a couple towns over
>She specialized in privacy and tech law which seems to have been due to me pushing her to not be an open target
>I have no clue how "successful" she is. Her "firm" has no real location, everyone is spread out all over the us, she has racked up tons of hours in games.... But with lawyers they can take work outsourced to them by other firms to pay the bills so who knows.
>She also is part owner of some D&D drinking company that also has no physical location and I am uncertain how much of that is girlboss feel good shit, or legit. I do find it ironic given the last D&D experience I had with her.
>She runs in "inclusivity" "trust and safety" circles and chases indie dev clout now.
>She is still attractive but also still a ho

I am glad we never had anything serious, we were horrible together, but I feel like every experience I have with her shapes and molds her life decisions in insanely prolific ways.
>Chose law school cause of my suggestion
>Moved to my state in hopes of seeing me again
>Specialized in tech and privacy cause I showed her how she was screwing up
>And while she always was the D&D nerd and I was not, her starting a drinking D&D business after the horrible experience she had and ran away from seems a little too coincidental.
It would be endeering if she had a good personality and wasn't obsessed with control and petty victories.
As good as she looks, I wouldn't stick my dick in her. You never know if she is plotting dumb revenge or being genuine, and it isn't worth finding out.

>>81930982
according to other released hamas captives yes i remember one jew got a nose job because hamas wouldn't rape her.

>WHAT EXES OF MINE ARE YOU REFERRING TO, SEX-HAVER?

>>81931254
you don't seem like a bad person but I understand why you say you have a polarizing personality

>>81931385
Thanks.. I's nice hearing I am not a horrible person.
People either think I am one of the best people they ever met, or am the scum of the earth. People who are the later tend to be shitty people and I care very little that they feel that way.
You'd be shocked how many are people who did something bad to me, I cut ties and they blame me for their actions.

>>81930893 (OP)
>Ever look up your ex's to see how they are doing and compare your life to theirs?
No, but I don't even have ex's anyway. But I don't check on anybody, friends, family or whatever. I don't use social media period. BTW go to reddit with this sexhaving stuff, normie.

>>81931488
Honestly, I can understand why people think like that. You seem very headstrong and ready to call people out, which are admirable traits but also kind of scary and intimidating

>>81931644
Bingo.
Yup, I set boundaries fast. I am open minded but there is no talking me into something I am against.
I don't actively call out everyone though. I know there is a time and place and no one likes the attention whore pretending to be a truth teller by starting shit infront of everyone. I do have some tact. I also try not to dwell on peoples flaws too much, but a problem can never be fixed if it is never addressed.

>>81931742
How did you become such an assertive person and end up here?

>>81931857
>How did you become so assertive
If I wasn't nothing would get done and I was raised by a shitty single mom. So I became independent and assertive and learned to adapt
>End up here
The misconception of this place is it is the incel board. It isn't. It's more like /b/ without copypasta, sorta. I appreciate the more original posts, and I stopped using social media cause it stopped being fun and rather than showing me a timeline of things I ask to see, it tries to tell me what I want to see.
No thanks.
Social media is more of a liability than a useful tool the older you get. I know that 4chan isn't "really anon" someone can super hack the site again and get my IP or GookM00t will gladly sell my info... but who would want it?
>The girls I am talking about? I don't mention their names.
>A company? Oh no a possible employee may have written text describing a strange thing he does on an anonymous board in his freetime that had no identifying info!
>The government? Add another shit post to the pile.
But that isn't the point. I use this place as a chatroom. The threads are fun to write and reply to. The lack of spam (well not total lack, but significantly reduced amounts)

Robots aren't bad people or losers. A lot of them are trolling, the ones that aren't just need a little nudge in the right direction.
Also I do appreciate the mysoginy here. The insane amount of problems women have caused through out my life has made me sexist. I guess it's similar to how a white dude living in Philly or Gary Indiana would become racist, except no matter where I go women are always the same and it is genuinely disapointing.
Burned too many times
No one wants to hear about it
Have fun with it hear. Learn not to trust and adapt

>>81932059
I wish I could be like that but I'm just not cut out for it. You seem like you'd be a good friend anon, I'm sure the people in your life value how strong-willed and principled you are. How did your exes handle that though? I can't imagine that going over too well in a relationship with a woman
You say the women in your life have caused you many problems. Were there other instances?
I like r9k for all those qualities too, it's less fast paced which I also enjoy

>>81932245
>I wish I could be like that but I'm just not cut out for it.
If you are a good person and can follow direcions, people like me used to meet people like you, mentor you, and get you on a good path while teaching you how to deal with social situations in your skill set
Those days are kinda drying up. People feel like they are legit brainwashed. I don't have a solution sadly. I try to do what I can.
>You seem like you'd be a good friend anon, I'm sure the people in your life value how strong-willed and principled you are.
Yes, I mostly am a good friend cause I will go to bat for people I care about and help them. Legit help them, not just text them a how to listicle.
>How did your exes handle that though?
Out of the two I meantioned.
>Fashion designer had a love/hate relationship with it but realized I knew what I was talking about. She loved how I took control sexually and felt adored and loved how I would figure out big things so she wouldn't sweat the small stuff. Then when the eating disorder took over she tried controling me and it became hate.
>Lawyer loved it but wanted to wield it as a tool and have control over me. It was strange. We were friends first and foremost who developed feels. When she wasn't desperately trying to be cool or overselling me to other friends then getting upset that I didn't live up to the hype she said that I didn't know she was saying, she could be a great friend.... but its hard to tell if the "genuine" moments are actually her or the trying to act cool is actually her, cause she does the later more than the former. However nothing got her wetter than seeing me in a debate or tear someone down or overall looking powerful.
She was obsessed with power, and I have learned people obsessed with being near "power" usually are incapable of being powerful on their own.
hence why when her "plans" failed she'd go straight to slutting it up

>>81930893 (OP)
>ex's
I have you get into a car accident you fucking normie

>>81932470 (cont)
>>81932245
>You say the women in your life have caused you many problems. Were there other instances?
single moms, shit sister, shitty women doing underhanded sneaky shit, exes, exes using legal system for made up shit then tantruming when its thrown out, women never facing accountability, women snitching, women fucking up things at work....
I really could go on. I didn't mind in he 2000's when women had kind personalities and good companionship to offer.
But now every woman is a narcisist with a hair trigger "block" impulse.
>I can't imagine that going over too well in a relationship with a woman
women are paradoxical. They say they wanna be strong and independent until a bill arrives. So sadly the consequence of this is often times women saw me as an attack dog of sorts.
But with women the one consistent thing is none of them can handle accountability.
The moment they fuck up and I call it out, it becomes my fault.
Oh, and don't think not calling them out works, they treat you like a door matt.
What they want is for you to make them completely submit for their mistake. My problem is I hate treating the people I care about as my enemy and assume I can talk it through with them. Then it becomes slow moving escalation.

I wish it wasn't like this and women acted like men and were logical, rational and honest. They aren't and I'm not gay so I'm at an inpass.

>>81932479
>I have you get into a car accident
lol. I haven't even gone through most of them.
I "have" you keep coping and seething

she monkeybranched/cheated, had some faggot bf a week after leaving me, they are still together 2 years on
she got chubby and became a wagecuck
i was miserable af for 2 years but now i do what i want, travel where i want, fuck foids and will be rich soon

hope she gets raped and killed

>>81932693
Andrew Tate, is that you?

>>81932470
That's admirable, anon. I feel like people like you are really rare.
Didn't it destroy you a little bit inside to see how the ED changed her? I had a female childhood friend like that and it also brought out the worst in her and I could do nothing to stop it. She eventually became an alcoholic and one time I tried to get her home safely and she got really furious with me, blaming me for treating her like she was "retarded" when she was puking everywhere and couldn't walk without falling down
What did your sister do if you don't mind me asking? Do you think women have really changed that much?
>But with women the one consistent thing is none of them can handle accountability. The moment they fuck up and I call it out, it becomes my fault

You're right but I do think men are just as guilty of it as women sometimes. It's something I also need to work on

>>81932759
>That's admirable, anon. I feel like people like you are really rare.
We used to not be.
>Didn't it destroy you a little bit inside to see how the ED changed her?
Yes and the worse part is there is nothing you can do. It's similar to dealing with people who have addiction problems, except people with addiction issues don't have professionals telling you to just bend over and do what they want.
>What did your sister do if you don't mind me asking?
too much to cover here. Basically never grew out of acting like a highschooler but thought she was soooo fucking smart and wonderful and everything she did was manipulation or leveraging access to grandchildren to get what she wanted. No concern for anyone but herself. Looking back on some things I thought were cool in the correct lens make me realize how horrible she was.
I don't care about her anymore. She's dead.
>Do you think women have really changed that much?
YES! They can't hold a conversation, don't have hobbies and are unpleasant to be around now.
The only perk now is they put out easier, and frankly that is a gamble that can go badly sometimes. It's like winning a jackpot only to get audited by the IRS.
>You're right but I do think men are just as guilty of it as women sometimes.
It's a growing up with social media problem. We removed cyber bullying. Sure, protect people from getting their dox, IP, and SSN thrown in random comment sections, but when you can't call people out nobody thinks their wrong.
When you have a "the victim shouldn't have to do anything" mentality, victims never stand up for themselves.
Removing cyberbullying caused an socialogical ecosystem collapse.
>It's something I also need to work on
Start viewing yourself in the other persons shoes. The problem now is no one even tries to consider other perspectives. No view from other perspectives = no self awareness and total self centeredness.

Also try considering the thought "am I in the wrong" or "can I prevent this"

>>81932986
>It's similar to dealing with people who have addiction problems, except people with addiction issues don't have professionals telling you to just bend over and do what they want

It's also harder to cut out. An alcoholic can eventually stop drinking completely but someone with an eating disorder will always be confronted with it. Even if it gets better I feel like they're always at a risk of relapse. Even into their 60s or 70s. Also if they're anorexic you can literally see them wasting away and becoming a skeleton.

>She's dead.

That's terrible. Like actually in the ground or just dead to you?

>YES! They can't hold a conversation, don't have hobbies and are unpleasant to be around now. The only perk now is they put out easier, and frankly that is a gamble that can go badly sometimes. It's like winning a jackpot only to get audited by the IRS.

I don't really remember the early 2000s too well so I don't have anything to compare the women of today too. Was there a specific moment in time where you noticed a shift?

>Also try considering the thought "am I in the wrong" or "can I prevent this"

I feel like the prevention part is where I'm struggling the most. I usually know when I'm in the wrong but I get too emotional and try to deflect. Even though obviously I know I'm not acting rationally I find myself trying to twist the narrative. And I hate myself for acting like a bitch afterwards when I have to apologize for it.

Do you have a lot of other exes asides from the ones you already mentioned, anon?

>>81930893 (OP)
>Ever look up your ex's to see how they are doing and compare your life to theirs?
Yes, but I'm trying not to. It just feels pathetic to do that

>>81932559
Holy fuck, is that article real? Did they just straight up print that???

>first ex went full cat lady
It's sad, she was a sweet girl. Someone should wife her up before the toxoplasmosis kills her. We were kids, and her parents moved with her to another continent. If she had stayed, maybe we'd both be happier.
>the second is only posting about leftie politics bullshit, and she does it every day, pretty much all day long, I don't think she puts the phone down
Makes sense, she was always a bit nuts, never had a stable sense of identity. Joining a tribe and having it be her entire personality is very on brand.
>last one seems happy, has a cute kid, travels all the time
I'm not mad that she's doing well, but she was a whore. It's why I broke up. She didn't cheat as far as I know, but she lied about her body count, and we kept running into her exes. Two of them were dudes I actually know, and I'm not exactly a social butterfly. I later found out that her antics ruined several of her brother's friendships, as she kept getting into relationship and drama with his bros. No idea how she managed to keep a man.

>>81930893 (OP)
I looked my ex up a few years after breaking up with him and I found out he killed himself a week later blaming his ex

what the fuck did I do?

>>81930893 (OP)
Within one month of breaking up, she got pregnant dropped out of school and the man left her.

I try to avoid it. All of my exes are coincidentally witches and I think it boosts their spells when I think about them or give them sexual energy.

>>81930893 (OP)
>exes
>plural
you don't belong here, normie

>>81933182
>Dead
She's dead dead. I have reasons to suspect manslaughter at minimum and murder at worse, but pursuing ain't worth it.
>2000s
So here is a good example. You used to be able to tease a girl you didn't know and take a playful jab at them and they would laugh and call you an asshole. Now they flip out and make a tiktok complaining to the world.
You used to be able to have political disagreements. Now deviate even the smallest bit they cut you off and label you as evil. Shit sometimes just not agreeing 100% is enough for them to tantrum and they don't wanna even hear another POV.
and they have no hobbies of interests. You ask you about themselves, they have jack shit to say then get frustrated.
As far as the "when" it started slow 2016ish, then became the norm after 2020.
Now girls can't take jokes, can't handle rejection, and suck to be around.
They are total herd animals. They will hop on any trend if they think it will give them clout and approval. They don't think for themselves or try and exist outside of simple labels. They will do any trend. They will sell out any loved one for the approval of total strangers. It's disgusting.
>usually know when I'm in the wrong but I get too emotional and try to deflect.
Remember, we can't control how we feel but we can control how we react to those feelings
Self awareness is a good start.
Things hurt sometimes because they SHOULD.

>>81933579
Thanks for sharing anon.
I haven't had an ex go what could be labeled "full on cat lady" but almost all of them get cats they call furbabies.
Make of that what you will.
>Leftie who screeches politics nonstop
Yeah you nailes the why too. I'm not worried about MUH LEFT RIGHT politics anymore cause I see the bigger picture of a totalitarian police state being set in place and no one listens to me or cares enough to try and stop it.
It's depressing
>Happy ex married with kid
I have only one like this, she destroyed me for years after our break up and said she would never have a kid and was laser focused on graphic design. She married some onions boy engineer and has a kid now which I find kind of funny.

I check it sometimes too.

Ex 1(26 yo, she dumped me):
>mogs me in terms of career
>mogs me in terms of relationships
>never single for more than 1 month

Ex 2(24 yo, I dumped her):
>got fat
>nonstop leftist tirades
>dates girls now
>hasn't managed to finish uni(CS) in the last 5-6 years, never worked a day so far

>>81933774
Have the women in your age group changed too? Or does it affect the younger ones more
But yeah rushing to social media, especially tiktok or x, is truly the worst. Everything has to be filmed too, I hate it. It feels like you're always under surveillance
>Things hurt sometimes because they SHOULD
That's completely right and hit the nail on the head. I'm going to remember that next time I start acting out, thank you anon

>>81933627
Holy shit, funny you say this. I had an ex that had something like this happen.
>Highschool relationship
>she was a transfer and we were neighbors (like a block away)
>Unfortunately I was an immature shit head kid
In retrospect I could have gotten so much more out of this relationship. Her ex was a drug dealer jugalo that cheated on her all the time.
Add to that, she was bisexual and I had a hot anime nerd friend who lived in the same complex as me (who I had sex with later in life).
My anime friend confirmed that if me and neighbor gf would have had the balls to straight up ask her or use the "favors she owed me" to do that, she would have been our regular threesome partner.
Add to this she took nudes for me and was fully willing to make sex tapes and let me cheat on her because I introduced her to every good friend she had and every friend she tried making on her own would fuck her over within a week.
>Anyways I was immature emotional and insecure.
>I was sweet, but when I got too in my feelings I would break up then take it back and tantrum
>Well eventually when she went back home to visit family, she had enough and asking for her back didn't work. It was done
.... but I still wanted sex tho
Not proud of this and it was scummy but when you are underage growing up dating someone older, you learn this shit the hard way.
>She is going to parties I go to and drinking and doing drugs
>Tell her "you want me to not rat you out and not cut you out of my friend groups, you keep fucking me"
>She couldn't pull same on me, my mom didn't care about me
At first she was into it cause we were still attracted to each other. Then I began demanding sex and nude pics when she wasn't as up for it. Then when she would do stuff like try and bad mouth me to my friends I would punish her wish sex requests that ate up all social time.
>After a month dad catches her packing getting ready to run away from home
>dad is pissed, liked me before but shocked and pissed now
pt1

>>81934049 (cont)
>Dad shows up tells my mom.
>Demands I give nudes of his daughter (all Polaroids no digital) back and I do.
>He decides to ramp it up, demand I leave town
>Mom says not happening, and she doesn't care (not cause she stood up for me, she just didn't wanna deal with the hassle of sending me away)
>He gets upset but my mom reminds him I am the minor and she is the legal adult here.
>And when she attempts saying the pictures are the blackmail I say "No you going to (name of the dudes place) and getting fucked up on coke and me telling you 'either make it worth my wild to let you stay in my friend group of have me sever the ties' was the deal
Dad turns beat red.
Sure, a little bit of a twisted truth but she was doing the same and not being honest about when the nudes were taken... so fuck her.
He still didn't like me but his daughter was not the blushing white virgin she pretended to be either. He talked it over with my dad (different state) and came to the conclusion his daughter was being a dumb whore.
>She was grounded for half of senior year.
>She desperately tried fucking guys to make new friends
>I ended up hitting my full growth spurt and hit 6ft. I was kind of a heart throb my senior year.
>She had to hear shit like "you broke up with him right before he got hot" from countless women and bitches would ask her for my number.
>On top of this I was known as a romantic amazing bf (that's what she told people about me) and the last thing they saw was her publicly shoot me down after giving her 2 dozen roses trying to say sorry and win her back.
>And all our mutual friends hated her for trying to run me out of town
She eventually got married cheated on the guy with her friend, had her husband kill himself, then married the friend and moved to a state away from both sides of her family cause her dad saw her as a lying whore and her mom hated her.
And what is sad is because of this she became a lying broken whore.
She became trailer trash

>>81934259
sounds like she was always trailer trash ngl, also you were kind of an evil bastard to blackmail her like that... teenagers.

>>81934049
>>81934259
(Cont.) Part of me does feel bad.
A lot of it was my fault. Had I had been who I am now I would have easily been railing her and my friend regularly making sex tapes while banging occasional random girls.
We would have been having 3ways non stop and not just with the anime friend, had I had taken up brewing my own alcohol sooner I could have been alternating women every weekend.
Guy after me confirmed this to be true, but his was bi and I would not have wanted those 3ways.

She was a good person. She genuinely was starting a new life. She trued to be a good girlfriend.
I dunno if we would have ever got married, but had we stayed together she would have atleast had a lot more positive opportunities in life and no strained family relationships. She even reached a point where friends who didn't know me were a no go cause her taste in people was that bad and proven to be that bad multiple times.
The control I could have had....
It just hurt her when I got too dramatic and she drew a line. I don't blame her for that in retrospect.
Only problem is I was her only social life line to people who didn't try and use her or steal from her... and my friends chose me over her cause she tried going too far.
And her worse fear became self fulfilling.
She ruined every friendship in our old town, everyone saw her as a cheap whore.
She caused her husband to kill himself.
She was the kind of person who rebelled to whatever the polar opposite of what the people she hated were.
Ans when she rebelled against me she rebelled against her former "good girlfriend" reputation.
Anyways, trauma aside she's married in a trailer. Maybe she's found peace. I can hardly see her keeping her rate of partying up.

>>81934439
would you mind sharing where you're from?

>>81934291
She was. Her move was her first chance at not being that.
I was her ticket to normal friends.
Her dad was the first normal home she lived in. House was fance as fuck desu.
>You were kind of an evil bastard to blackmail her
Yeah, it was wrong.
But again, I was a child and no one gives you a guide to navigating social politics, relationships, or dealing with breakups in a healthy way.

I'm not gonna justify it as being right. It wasn't.
What I will say is her actions in response fucked her worse than I did.
Had she of cut ties, not tried to worm her way into the parties I went to, she would have nothing to be blackmailed with.
My friends would have been okay with her and left it at "your relationship drama is between you two and doesn't involve us." Instead of "you tried to exile our beat friend, kill yourself whore"
Hell, had she been honest with her dad there is a chance I could have seen some legal trouble (but still unlikely, she was the legal adult and statutory rape would have got her in trouble too)

I wish things went differently.
Especially in hindsight of how much awesome threeway sex I could have been having

>>81934504
A little.
I'll say "the southwest" and leave it at that.
I'm not trying to leak anyones info
The exes or myself.
I'm just trying to talk aith other anons and reflect on what ifs

>>81934550
True, I forgot she was older than you. She really could have handled it better.
Thank you for sharing your stories anon, you should write a book someday. I'd read it.

>>81930893 (OP)
She lost all her high school and college friends, the same ones she spent years, if not decades, bitching about my existence to in order to elevate herself since she had nothing else to offer. Too bad it won't un-rekt my life.

>>81933931
Dunno if I ever had a girl mog me "career" wise.
Oh don't get me wrong some are happily married to dudes that make bank and live in nice places.
But they usually have some "barely part time" type job that isn't super serious.

Funny thing, is those girls are the ones I actually am on decent terms with and wish well.
>Ex got fat
In high-school this used to be the curse of girls who broke up with me.
People would ask me "bro wtf did you do to her?!"

>>81934625
>Book
Naww I prefer talking to you guys for free.
I am not a public figure and have negative desire to ever be one.
>She could have handled it better
That is the brutal part of that whole situation. My fuck up was definitely worse, and I was able to learn and grow.
She made a mistake mishandling her situation and shattered trust in everything she loved or believed in... and technically she wasn't in the wrong for not taking me back.

Makes me realized how much I was to her. You could argue she would have taken me back if I were so great in her eyes, but the cost of my benefits was putting up with me. And honestly, I was depressed and insufferable.
She tried drawing a line. She was right to do so. But her mistake was the classic woman mistake.

She wanted it both ways.
>I wanna break up with you and not put up with your whining
>I wanna party with your friends and try and rebound
Had she of just drew the line, and took a beat to realize me being gone meant some of those social ties go too (not all, just some) she would have had it all and eventually I would have stopped being a faggot....
Hell, ironically we may have gotten back together because I was considered one of the most attractive guys in school after summer, and had she spent her time alone and not talked to me we probably would have had some insanely dramatic reunion and jokes about "she told him to grow the fuck up and quit carrying so much emotional weight around so he got fit and grew to 6ft."

Women need to realize by trying to always have it both ways they frequently end up losing both things, where if they accept the losses associated with their choices they frequently can keep both things long-term

>>81934685
How was your life rekt?

>>81934015
>Have women in your age group changed too?
Yes. EVERYONE has. Not being on social media feels like walking around awake while everyone is under mass hypnosis.
Say a trigger word, get hypnosis enduced response. I'm not any better than these people, I just prefer having fun as opposed to my behavior being trained into me with vague re enforcement.
I was just as brainwashed when I was on there, though I'd argue the brainwashing was better and more fun.
I don't see the appeal now other than gate kept social interaction.

I'm glad to see you taking some advice. No one is perfect, we just all should try and be a little better every single day.

>>81934880
She did the bulk of her gossip campaign while we were in undergrad so I effectively made negative connections in the program. It was so bad even the professors knew about my """crime""". Fortunately this was just before the culture wars so I didn't get straight expelled, though there is no doubt I would have if this same shit had happened just ~2 years later.

Theyre all pretty basic bitches and none of the people they are with seem to have a good of a life as me
>33
>Make 10k/month
>In shape
>Travel a lot
Pretty fun life, but I do feel bitter that none of these girls even want to look at me and see how my life turned out

>>81933708
NOW THAT IS A FUCKING "W" IF I EVER HEARD ONE!

>>81934960
4chan is social media
>Not original
Doesnt make it less true

>>81935002
Have a default opener and talk about your travels. Learn game and get traumatized. Ho's will never be the one to initiate.

>>81935077
I have an opening line that works on tinder, but whenever I talk about my travels, I end dominating the convo and women barely get a word in

>>81935002
>Pretty fun life, but I do feel bitter that none of these girls even want to look at me and see how my life turned out
No they do.
One thing I learned is that women stalk social media more than they post.
This is why I was never genuine on social media, wanna know about my life, ask me.
Also social media is to socializing what reality TV is to reality. How many women do you see pretending to be living their #BlessedLife while falling for an MLM scam?

Denying people easy access to my actual life updates increases positive thoughts of you (unless shit ended poorly).
Some mystery without being completely unknown is a good thing

>>81935035
People like you think email is social media.
You know damn well what is meant by social media.
A board where no one shares any info and can't keep in touch ain't it

>>81935077
>have a default opener
Close.
You repeat the same line too much people catch on.
You want multiple openers. Then you want to improve situational openers. Then you you wanna improve the types of people you use what on.
Eventually you get so advanced you become naturally charismatic and charming and will become super situationally aware.

Also just cause you opened and carried a convo doesn't mean you are gonna score, and just cause you got shut down and moved on doesn't mean she wrote you off. Women are stupid like this

>>81935092
Be an asshole then and put some onus on her like, "What else is interesting about you?" They'd rather be beaten to death than bored to death.

Oh and people love to talk about themselves

>>81935190
Yeah ho's are fickle it is a numbers game. Have a spreadsheet or cheatsheet of openers and shit if you have to and practice and get experience there is no way to avoid direct action.

>>81934049
This is sort of a side story from my original story. We never dated but i wanna clarify why she "owed me favors"...
>Anime nerd neighbor
We knew each other in middleschool but didn't talk, till eventually her sister started talking to me and formally introduced us. Her sister wanted her to have some friends and I was a nice guy.
>Anime girl was pretty but super sheltered
>She was scared to leave the house, couldn't be in the sun for more than 30 minutes without getting sick, never had a boyfriend, and relied on her sister who had a bf for social interaction.
>We hit it off, hung out almost daily. I made her laugh and introduced her to more people.
>I helped her get over her sun sickness by slowly having her go for walks with me.
One day she showed up at my place and hugged me and said she was able to walk to the corner gas station and not get sick and thanked me. I told her "it's okay, you just owe me for eternity". She laughed and agreed to it.
>The owing me for eternity became a long running thing
>example: if she would call me over late at night (2 am) to kill a bug for her, add an eternity life term.
>I racked up like 14 of these life terms and joked that she would still owe me for life after reincarnation.
I never took them seriously cause she was a super close friend and how the fuck was I suppose to "enforce" them?
I did however get to eventually use them.
She did let me play with her tits and squeeze them whenever I wanted as stress relief. Before you take this as the most obvious sign I should have smash that it was.... it was a different time, we were kids and insecure, she hadn't been with a guy, I couldn't just grope her infront of anyone, and our friend group was much more laid back.
>Around college we finally fucked, talked about the past, and sure enough, yeah I should have pulled that trigger.
Kick myself for not fucking her regularly

>>81935253
Kinda hard to do that now.
Before you could try picking up bitches.
Now I tell people focus on making friends first to learn the ropes cause women now are ridiculously on high alert all the time and think EVERYTHING is an attempt at sex.
>>81935214
Lol. None of this guys shit works anymore.
Oh it used to have a basis in reality... but keep in mind what makes talking to women so hard now is you aren't completing against other people in the bar, you are competing against being more entertaining than her cell phone.

>>81935470
Mystery was always considered a joke. A clown show. His techniques are only good for separating the autistic, incompetent, and retarded same difference from their money.

>>81935427
I also do wonder if I should have tried to date her.
It's a shame how me and her stopped talking.
>She married an engineer
>Good dude, but he became an alcoholic.
>she got a divorce and I asked her if she needed me
She told me to keep her husband company and be his friend cause he didn't have friends.
I listened to her request, and she took it as some betrayal and later resented me for it.

Fucking stupid. She had one other dumb incident where she ruined he connection to her whole friend group by dating some pedo while we were in Highschool and then when he dumped her she was shattered and broken.
She took accountability for cutting us out of her life. I welcomed her back to the fold and she cried in my arms and I showed her we didn't hate her, we missed her.
This time... pretty sure it's just done. She got weird. Not just with me with everyone. Cut contact entirely, became hard to find, cut communication with almost all old friends, shit talked everyone behind their back.
This time she isn't taking accountability.
And for the life of me I have no clue what happened to her. She's been MIA from everything. Her ex husband actually called me asking if I knew how to get in touch with her.

>>81935540
True. Lol.
All pick up artist tactics are straight up dead now though.
Closest thing I have seen to something that has worked for me is do something alone you enjoy.
I take photographs while I'm out. Not for anyone, just me and my memories.
Women have struck up conversations with me over it because I am perfectly happy taking pics, then they are surprised I don't post them anywhere.

Just an example....
But being content and happy alone has drawn more peoples attention to me than anything I've ever said.
Which is a paradox cause I genuinely am interested in what I am doing, not trying to chat.
Maybe I just stick out like a soar thumb. Who the fuck knows.

>>81935540
Being a retard who tries is better than "making friends first."

>>81935470
Lol no volunteering for the friendzone is not a winning ticket. And so what if they are on high alert and actually going for sex? That's what your attempt is for. You're just throwing up imaginary obstacles that Chad's don't throw up for themselves. Did the evolutionary reality of women really change overnight because of muh cell phone cock block?

>>81935750
No it's not because you'll be even worse off than if you "[made] friends first" since you literally submit cringe compilation tier material of yourself for anyone, not just future potential dates but even coworkers, employers, and anyone else who wants to fuck you over, to use against you.

>>81935910
>Cares what people think instead of going on to next

>>81935979
You need a reminder of what happened when a dumbfuck robot didn't care what people thought and went to the next about 500 times at his local college?

>>81935804
>Volunteering for the friend zone is not a winning ticket.
Correct.
However, a lot of guys are unable to socialize at all anymore. This is a good start to getting a feel for the lay of the land.
Go around acting like a sex pest is a great way to get the cops called on you.
>Back in "muh pick up artist" days, people WANTED to meet new people
>Now people are trying to keep unknowns out cause they view almost everyone and everything as a threat
Guys now need to build skills we had fully built up by middle school. Shits fucked right now bro. One step at a time

>>81935750
Being a retard that tries USED to be better than making friends first.
Now the consequences for failure are too harsh and people don't have the basic skill set for making friends.

Social media fucked people up hard bro.
Trying that strong only works with dating apps and we all know how dating apps work for most guys

>>81936128
Depends on the volume of the location and city but interesting conversation topics with multiple girls spread across a night instead of spamming "Ayo baby I like dem legs whatso digits?" is very unlikely to be seen as a pest in a relatively anonymous area.

Also depends on how secure, competent and if you go to the gym or not.

>>81936186
It's really about knowing what NOT to do rather than pure charisma.

> Consequences for failure

It is extremely unlikely anybody will lose his life today for a failed pickup or awkward moment. Things like these build resilience and shouldn't be avoided. It's a young man's thing to avoid.

Never think it's impossible. I've sperged hard before and had one night stands just from sheer luck.

Like matches up best with like and social skills can only be built with experience

>>81936262
Correct.
This is why I suggest getting used to making friends first.
A lot of people don't even understand the basics.
Also being introduced by a mutual friend is the best way to pick up other girls.
>>81936325
Correct, you won't get the police called for a failed pick up.
>But you'll get kicked out of a bar
>You'll get banned from a coffee shop
>You'll develop a reputation, and potentially get pre banned.
And being asked to leave IS common.
Not saying never shoot yohr shot, I'm saying learn the basics first and your type of area before moving on to more advanced approaches.

>>81936325
She's cute, you know her IRL or just a pic you saved

>>81936465

>You'll get kicked out

Breaking rules and standing out can increase your attractiveness and alphatude in women's eyes as long as its not something along the lines of invading the girls room or spiking drinks. It depends on the severity of your "offensiveness" and how big your options market is. Unsolicited approaches are likelier than not to get you attraction points for boldness. A truly secure man brushes it off and won't feel embarassment and knows trauma and failure are necessary for improvement. Next!

So much goes into what determines your value and theres so much you can do in regards to an approach because its so open ended and fluid. Persuasion is a devils skill for a reason.

>>81935715

>Tactics are dead

I used to think this but the chances of somebody recognizing a line or technique is nearly impossible. Human sociology hasn't changed much. We still have eyes, ears, mouths and feet and our evolution hasn't changed because of cell phones.

>Being content and happy

Yes because women are drawn to men who have a purpose and are secure or "outcome independent" as pickup artists would say. It is intriguing to them.

I would say don't write off the power of direct action in the form of actually striking up conversations because this is the simplest and most practical way possible to slay the dragon.

>>81936662
Try getting second chances after getting kicked out of literally everywhere and see how "alpha" you'll be. These people won't stop at just kiking you out of the bar. They'll go for your job, and more too.

>>81936971

>Get kicked out everywhere

This only will happen if you're retardly incompetent and I would applaud you if you made the effort to exhaust every single option and every single person. Prisoners get fan mail all the time and cancelled people get solicited all the time in their DM's because ginas get wet over rule breaking.

And when was the last time a Starbucks manager called your boss and got you fired? How the fuck hard is it to open your mouth and drop words and not be scared of being expelled into the icy wastes? If you do get branded an exile somehow from every venue possible then go to a different city.

Are you such a risk free pussy?

>>81936971
>They'll go after your job too
Not really but it's a small possibility cause bitches are insane now.
In reality, getting kicked out cause overzealous basedboy bartenders or bitchy karen barbacks don't care about whose buying the drinks, they just wanna be heckin advocates for wamen
And getting kicked out kills your chances to bang the other bitches there.

>>81937159
>Prisoners get fan mail all the time and cancelled people get solicited all the time in their DM's because ginas get wet over rule breaking.
Bro wut?
Prisoners get mail precisely because they aren't a threat to the women writing to them. The government litterally keeps them locked in a cage and prevents them from doing anything.
I feel like you are disconnected from how things are currently vs 20 years ago

>>81937185
Total life destruction as a consequence for failed approaches is coming soon. It's already that way for all practical purposes in upper class social circles, the same place where SJWisms and wokism came from, which need I remind you were considered absurd jokes back when they started? And look what fucking happened.

>>81937159
>risk free pussy
Ever hear of something called a risk/reward ratio? Taking stupid risks for something that has a minuscule reward compared to absolutely destructive consequences doesn't mean you're manly. It means you're a fucking retard.

>>81937227

Women reward bold, violent and intriguing men, that's why they mysteriously write to them in the first place. Excitement trumps safety.

>>81937328
Being a quasi-rapist creep isn't the good kind of dangerous, retard.

>>81937328
If this was a true statement, they'd be all over incels. But by definition of incel, they aren't. Chudjak's paradox.

>>81937279


Absolutely destructive consequences for breaching imaginary social codes for daring to utter "hi" in a public location to the fearsome overlords.

>>81937372
Here's the thing: it's never just "hi". You want robots to go waaaayyyyy over the line to make asses of themselves. Look at your shaming tactics and usage of serial killers >>81937328 as examples. You glow, nigger.

How the fuck did this go from comparing your exes life to your own to PUA arguments and complaining about modern society?
Nigga I just wanted to shares stories about how exes are doing after breaking up.

>>81937418
Glowniggers saw an angle to exploit and went for it. Can't say I blame them given the budget cuts nowadays.

>>81937362

Girls were all over Elliot Rodger once he found his balls. There was a video comp of all sorts of young girls saying they would've dated him after he chimped out

>>81937479
Problem is he's dead, and even if he didn't take the coward's way out, he'd be in prison and unable to do anything with them. On the plus side, he'd probably have become the gf. lol, lmao even.

>>81937447
With the gay retarded shit that gets government funding now.... I wouldn't doubt it

>>81937447
This.
>just idolize these dangerous criminals, bro!!!
This is str8 out of their mosque agitation playbook.

>>81937411

Not even willing to take a 1% risk to dare try to connect with someone who even has similar interests like in a book store by dropping something simple like "hi" or "have you read x book?" just to get out of your comfort zone and improve from there.

>Making an ass of yourself

By talking about your interests or hers? By daring to make sentences to another person?

>81937338
>Quasi-rapist

Saying something cocky or funny isn't at all the same as being a murderer. It's about gleaning insights from what attractive men do and trying to copy some of it into your own life. Like not caring for once about what people might think.

Pluck up just an ounce of courage and coolness mayne.

>>81937536
They've been at it for years at this point. It really ramped up after the sandnigger oil wars ended since how else were they supposed to keep the counter-terrorism gravy train lowing?
Hell, there's even some indication they're preparing to clean up their grooming pool now that it's getting out of control with the whole "nihilistic terrorism" and "salad bar extremism" hitting the news.

Pic related. Notice anything interesting about the infamous people our pet shill is doing an absolutely GLOWING job of promoting?
https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/terror-without-ideology-the-rise-of-nihilistic-violence-an-isd-investigation/

people have been calling the true crime faggots creeps and weirdos for years now, for good reason. It's also interesting how these legitimate criticisms kept getting suppressed during that time.

>>81937627
>not actually linking the post hoping to get the last word in
Autistic, childish, and a COWARD!

>>81937539
Holy shit you're right
>Just fucking crush pussy. Don't be a faggot bro
Well while I agree being bold is a good strategy many people lack basic social skills because of social media. It may be best to start a little slower than work your way to...
>FAG! FRIENDZONE IS FOR FAGGOTS AND LOSERS! JUST TAKE SOME FREE PUSSY!
It's a different era, you can get kicked out from a bar for making a girl uncom..
>WOMEN'S PUSSIES GET WET OVER SERIAL KILLERS FAGGOT

I mean, I don't disagree that you have to shoot your shot or you have 0 chance, but at the very least learn basic socialization first. Consider the audience man.

>>81937655
They've been deploying these shaming tactics for years on /r9k/. Notice how it's almost the start of the school year in some districts. For you dumdums, that means they're targeting the message at literal high schoolers READ: TEENAGERS so they fuck up bad enough IRL to get a """referral""" to the agency to farm funding with.

>>81937630
Isn't like 70% of the true crime audience women?

bros on this board make low effort pic with m s paint then copy paste some wall of text speech about some society shit
like bro you are pathetic and arent here for discussion youre like a liberal lecturi9ng people about why trans men should be allowed to film little girls in the public bathrooms

>resources finally collapse
Nothing is going to happen.

>>81930893 (OP)
I never do this because I don't remember even the first names of most of the girls I fucked, and I never knew their last names in most cases. Not possible to follow up on. The only one that I "dated" for an extended period I hate so badly that I want to forget her existence altogether - the world would be a better place if I had killed her instead of leaving her. So I can't relate to your thread or posting at all, you seem like someone who cared about all of these girls in some real way to both remember them and go looking them up. I feel for you, in this regard, but do not suffer from the same malady. Enjoy your blogthread.

>>81937687
You are making a little too much sense.
>Jack Murphy had weird scam school shit
>Weird surge of "coaching" services (which have 0 legal liability) teaching fatherless men to me "alpha"
>costs way too much
>Also list "incels" as a potential terror threat
I like to see myself as a positive force hear telling people ways to get better and give realistic goals.

>>81937693
Key words: that we know of who consume the podcasts and media whose consumption are tracked. The overgrown edgelords on telegram, r/masskillers, and similar? Who the fuck knows.

>>81930893 (OP)
>acquantences
Do not redeem ESL saar

>>81937655

>Boldness

Daring to stand out from the other chuds by teasing a girl about something like her nail color or talking about an interesting neutral topic is not the same as standing on the bar like King Kong and demanding thots bow down.

>>81937655

>Girls have power! Be afraid!

"Another night in...."

>>81937745
Edgelords are ironically the least likely to be a threat looking at current mass shooters.
Most likely to be a terror threat going by recent shootings:
>Political junkies/ideolouges
>Trannies
>People with connections to the FBI
Just sayin.....

The goal isn't actual safety.
Infact it's almost like the terror threats are being protected

>>81937741
Look into the exact sort of people government LEO likes to exploit as informants. It's hardly Jame Bond, to put it very nicely.

Dune coons: https://theintercept.com/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/
https://archive [dot] eye-ess slash u9Urg

Literally retarded wigger they got to tattoo an octopus to his back to promote a d00d weed pawnshop:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/allegations-against-the-atf-using-the-mentally-disabled-as-pawns/282226/

Pic related is a really sussy one that tried to push CWC as a martyr for autism rights a few years back and he actually got autists to fall for it.

>>81937806
Keep cooking nigga. I love when glow niggers get nervous.
>>81937722
Cool story bro.
Shame the thread got derailed by retarded PUA faggotry and is now a glow nigger hate thread

Did you know threads celebrating having swx with soldiers wives get banned from every board on 4chan almost instantly?

(Glow niggers should have just shared the stories about their exes and how they are doing be comparison to them)

>>81937804
That's the point: real terrorists are really fucking rare, and if they don't show they use the $$$$ they not only lose it at the end of the fiscal year (FY) but also get less funding the following FY since they didn't use it all. The latter is a basic fact of government function that was taught in high school level civics classes even when no crack babby left behind started raping the curriculum.

Then there's the /pol/itical angle:
>actual right wing militia groups that actually do ideologically motivated shit and stormed the capitol are largely untouchable now that the flyover shithole father figure substitute is president again, plus they can effectively fight back
>muslims learned from the post-9/11 era so the old tactics are no longer effective and are largely irrelevent as a threat nowadays
>russia is too occupied with ukraine and gopnik tier arson in europe to do anything in USA
>chinks are sneaky but non-violent and out of the purview of the kinetic counter-terror department anyways
So who's left? Literally randoms who don't have the means to physically or legally defend themselves but would make an excellent press release anyways.

>>81937865

Niggas here are in it for self-loathing, not improvement.

>>81937865
realtak, I'd fuck glowie-chan.

>>81937865
>I love when glow niggers get nervous.
Speaking of this: they go absolutely apeshit if you name the right agency, the FBI, instead of blaming it on the CIA like our favorite schizophrenic programmer.

>>81937890
Meh, pretty sure they will use nsa to blackmail kids into doing crimes and blaming what ever shit they wanna crack down on

>>81937804
Terror threats are "protected" so long as they can be controlled into doing something useful later on. That is probably why they're turning against the nihilistic retards and edgelords they corralled into r/masskillers and a gorillion chatrooms during the pandemi since they're hitting a critical mass of fucktardation and lashing out without direction.

>>81937925
>CIA
Info gathering. They rarely get their hands dirty but will pay others to do it, including organized crime. They prefer trafficking
>FBI
They are the ones who see budget increases from "muh terror attack" and work hand in hand with CIA as a government enforcement/coverup arm.

These niggers need to be disbanded.
If CIA ever shows up and starts trying to tell you to do illegal shit, just shoot and kill them and claim self defense.
I shit you not they will fold and fuck off cause they don't want authorities digging into all their shit and would rather claim a "rouge element" than they tried to do illegal shit.
If they try and recruit you, they'll usually offer perks and use a honey over vinegar type method.

Can't do that to FBI. And they have the power to actually shut down investigations. Power tripping faggots.
It is funny to call local law enforcement on them though and say that someone is impersonating a federal officer.

>>81938004
CIA is supposed to work majority overseas. FBI is majority domestic and therefore has law enforcement powers. That is the main distinction.

>>81938017
Supposed to being the key world.
Remember when they discovered a CIA black site in Chicago?

>>81938055
Hmmmmm, you seem awfully eager to blame it on the CIA for some reason..................

I just want to live in a normal country that doesn't hate me or cover up crime and actually wants me to succeed as a citizen and not try and extort me for money by threats of throwing me in a pp poo poo rape cage.
Is that so wrong?

>>81938075
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Homan_Square

Its not one or the other.
Both glow nigger agencies suck.
The only true and honest Government agency is the comptroller of currency.

why are failed normies like this