Thread 81936693

I read these books over my vacation, but I'm concerned I didn't understand them that well, so I thought I'd discuss them with you guys.

you can't understand a philosophy text fully without a deep knowledge of the history (and language) of the culture that produced it. so do not feel bad.

>>81936693 (OP)
Don't waste your time here. Talk to Grok, ChatGPT, Kimi or whatever.

Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door, /lit/ is two blocks down

Most of all the classical philosophers and modern philosophy in general is a bunch of nonsense if you ask me. Most of the time it's just self help for people who want to come across as intellectuals, the other half of the time its just intellectual masturbation and metaphysical spiritual mumbo jumbo.

>>81936728
I posted this on /lit/ but no one responded

>>81936693 (OP)
What about? I cannot comment on the far right book. But the other two, what are you stuck with?

>>81936693 (OP)
sorry, but i dont read other people's thoughts

too busy with my own

>>81936752
It's hard to explain, it's really just a vague sense that I missed out on a lot of what the authors had to say. I am not confident I could repeat the text in my own words.

>>81936820
In that case re-read it. Think about what part of the text means, and then ask for help if you don't get it.

>>81936693 (OP)
consoome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTRKW1GqlF4

>>81936820
>it's really just a vague sense that I missed out on a lot of what the authors had to say
Most of the "classics" are like this from being endlessly overhyped by pseuds who have only read five books in their entire life

>>81936693 (OP)
>I didn't understand them that well,
Of course you didn't. This shit is for ppl in the dark night of the soul.

>>81937000
I disagree, I think there was clearly a lot to learn from these texts, but some of it was too difficult for me.

>>81937000
you shouldn't assume that you will grasp everything right away

>>81936693 (OP)
You're a whore and I don't care to discuss anything with you.

I feel like there has been over a million words written about those books already

only read Spake Z once, The republic was classwork and knowing it was classwork made me never touch it again, now the whole phase of pseud has passed all the hope gone and there is only the bible that I read when I have to. Been reading some warren buffet easy reading of quotes, makes me feel bad though since I'm a loser and the no hope. I hate lit and myself, enjoy it while you can. I am a retard.

>>81937089
I've gone and checked secondary sources to see if I was missing anything enough times at this point to be confident in my initial assessment of a text.

As with every other medium, popularity is not a reliable indicator of quality

>>81937133
Why do you think these books become popular?

>>81936693 (OP)
You should have read Twilight of the Idols instead of BGE

>>81936989
Can you tldw this for me

>>81937174
It's a stage play where Nietzsche and Plato debate each other using the major points from their works.
>Plato talks about world of forms
>Nietzsche calls Plato delusional and talks about slave morality and the Superman
>Plato calls Nietzsche a lousy cynical critic

>>81937160
The vast majority of people are midwits so they seem deep to them while still being approachable

>reading shitty, outdated philosophy on your days off
Normies seriously don't do this, do they?

>>81937689
>I'm smarter than Nietzsche and Plato
ngmi