Thread 82059495

Is there susch thing as a "male loneliness epidemic"? If so what is actually causing it? Or Im just a loveless idiot in its late 20s? Cant go back to dating apps again and I have the social skills of a potato, is it over for me?...

There is a general loneliness epidemic, its just hitting men harder in terms of relationships. Its been said before but the shitty economy and social media have made it way harder for people to connect, compared to boomers who grew up without technology so they had to entertain each other instead of sitting inside gaming for 8+ hours.

>>82059495 (OP)
>Is there susch thing as a "male loneliness epidemic"?
Yes.
>If so what is actually causing it?
It was made literally illegal to have men's spaces. So, here's how it works: some men aren't attractive to women. They're told, "well if you're lonely and women don't want you, then you can still hang out with men!" and this is actually a valid argument in a healthy society, many times throughout history men have been perfectly happy to have male friends and not deal with women, whether that's monasteries, hobby groups, whatever.

HOWEVER. Along come women demanding to be part of those groups. So men can't have any group that's just for men, they have to let women in or the government will arrest them. Once women get into that group, they change the social dynamics, they start flirting with the most attractive men in the group, while demanding that the least attractive men in the group shut up and stop having fun or just that they outright get kicked out.

So men are left with no social outlets at all. That's the male loneliness epidemic. Undesirable men are told to just make male friends but also it's illegal to have men's clubs.

>>82059495 (OP)
late 20s? yes it's over. it takes years to learn social skills and by the time you catch up you will be too old to have any kids.

>>82059495 (OP)
yeah. most men dont have intimate friendships and are alienated further by a digital society. theres just generally a loneliness epidemic because our culture shames putting yourself out there and every place where you can hang out costs money, but men are definitely effected more because we arent taught to actually connect with our friends.

>>82059536
This is why engineering and science and math is basically just for Chads only. I have never met an ugly guy in STEM. There are too many women who make it impossible for ugly guys to have any interest in pure math or anything related to that.

>>82059543
internet actually costs more money. some men just fell for the hedonism pill. it's like gambling. there are mentally retarded people who claim that the economy is bad right now despite it being at near all time highs, and then you show them the evidence of how kids their age blow billions of dolllars a year on gambling and they just shut up and run away from the argument.

>>82059536
Also to add a practical example: Men in Sheds is a UK group meant to give lonely men, particularly older men, a space to socialize with other men, mainly through working on physical crafts together (woodworking and such).

Women demanded to be included. Illegal to refuse so they had to let women in. They then set up a men-only room at the back so they could "get a break" (aka women were ruining the vibe and stressing them out), only a matter of time before that's taken away too.

Women WILL NOT ALLOW men to have male-only spaces ANYWHERE but then they also blame low-status men for being lonely, while also treating low-status men viciously and bullying them out of any space that isn't male-only (and banning all male-only spaces).

>>82059596
Just play sports. My dad is in an all male sports team.

>>82059574
my data costs 10 dollars a month. thats 2 coffees, or one drink, or less than an hour of bowling or whatever kind of hangout you suggest. the internet has simply become cheaper and easier than irl and is almost required to actually have irl friends anyway.
also the economy is objectively bad right now. the fact that some people can blow millions on online gambling while others cant afford rent is a big part of that kek.

>Is there such thing as a "male loneliness epidemic"?

Fuck no. That's some gay shit. It's just an obnoxious internet trend of turning everything into an epidemic or a crisis or a disaster.
Doesn't matter whether its foreign conflicts, climate change or stupid things like feeling lonely.
They all follow the same pattern

>something emotive to feel incenced about
>very generally defined issue
>no realistic solutions being offered
>lots of academic waxing poetic about the cause and how it is manifesting
>just a general "we need to spread awareness and beat our chests feel guilty about it as a SOCIETY"

Classic slacktivist culture. Best solution is to spend less time in this SM-brained culture and more time talking to real people.

>>82059649
>objectively bad
>good on literally every measure except maybe housing in big cities for young people.

>>82059649
It's not some people though. The industry for gambling and betting is massive right now. The literal only time you will ever hear someone "can't afford rent" is if they are drug addicts, even 3rd world illegal immigrants come here and afford rent.

>>82059495 (OP)
I met many incels and they didn't want love, at least my /love/ one of them kept telling me to lose weight and then he would fuck me, the other would flirt with me every now and then and then block me and go no contact for a year or months.

there's more naunce probably but that's the short version of events.

the incels even made a hate/cyberbullying gc about me

the only man I flirted with who was apologetic was a man who was successful with love and got every woman he wanted. incels are the ones being picky and spiteful.

>>82059495 (OP)
It does feel lonely when women all treat you at best like an ultimately replaceable commodity instead of a human being. They want commitment from men but want to offer the bare minimum in return and resent providing even that much. Then of course they cheat, withhold sex (deny love) lose attraction on the smallest, stupidest basis, think it's okay for them to have backup guys lined up but heaven forbid you anticipate her throwing you away like a used napkin and so the same thing etc etc. It's all so tiresome. Everything is a transaction or a test or comparing you to her ten previous boyfriends.

>>82059960
> i even got a hate group devoted to me
> but i didnt do nuffin theyre so weird omg
Yeah sure

>>82059495 (OP)
>Is there susch thing as a "male loneliness epidemic"?
Yes, and men are suffering quite a lot from being starved of sexual contact. I'm one of them, and the last time I had sex was in 2016.
>If so what is actually causing it?
See picrel. Women hate men no matter who they are and how they look, even the 10/10 chads. They only see rich chads as sort of an expensive luxury that will give them bragging rights over other women.
>Or Im just a loveless idiot in its late 20s?
Don't blame yourself for something that's not your fault.
>Cant go back to dating apps again and I have the social skills of a potato, is it over for me?
Dating apps are pointless when the women only want 10/10 chads, and even if you were to get a match, she'll drain your resources and dump you the moment she sees someone who she thinks is better than you. Like I said before, it's not your fault. Women will always become monsters when they're allowed to have the freedom to make their own decisions, and the only way to tame these monsters is to bind them with the chains of patriarchy.

>>82059782
Shitty ragebait.

>28 years old
>Never had a girlfriend
>Virgin, barely just kissed a girl once
theres a new cute girl where I work, dont have any real social skills as well, realistically how do I approach her to invite her out without coming as a creep/getting a call from HR?

it's a hoelessness epidemic

Talk to people irl, put the damn phone down. No, dating apps don't replace this.

>>82060705
>talk to women irl
Forbidden in most places actually

>>82059574
>internet actually costs more money
certified USA moment

>>82059495 (OP)
>If so what is actually causing it?
It's quite a perfect storm of things.
Women were still lusting for Chad in the past too, but there were some checks and balances in place:

>Religion enforced monogamy, often with great societal consequences for breaking it
>Slut-shaming was the norm in society
>Abortion considered an infamy; it was risky to mess around
>Limited economic & educational opportunities for women; fewer women moving to big cities, greater incentive for them to get married
>Communication and transportation over long distances was more tedious; it was more doable to be a local Chad in some backwater village than it is today

We flipped all of the above in a really short timeframe.

All of this leads to a 'winner takes all' type of dating for men.

>>82060210
>realistically how do I approach her to invite her out without coming as a creep/getting a call from HR?
if she thinks you are attractive, by saying almost anything. if she doesn't, you cannot.