Thread 82064923

Do you have any hope of entering heaven, anon?

>>82064923 (OP)
I don't believe in heaven but if it's real I don't think I'm getting in

Heaven is full of married couples and families, you're not getting 72 virgins. God wants you to enter holy marriages and have many children.

Heaven? Who the fuck wants to stay in heaven when they can go directly to God?

>>82064923 (OP)
All the ppl I know who say there going to heaven are assholes so I would really rather not

>>82064923 (OP)
Yes
Just don't commit any capital sin. Most of the bullshit "religious" people spew are just something that a school of thought came with after hundreds of years of overthinking a small passage
For example, pope and all those rituals. God never ordered people to do that lol

>>82064994
You only get into heaven by God's grace, so thinking that you have earned it and deserve it in definitely bad. Even the most pious and virtuous have to humble themselves and profess their unworthiness.

>>82064923 (OP)
are there lolis in heaven

>>82065096
Idk but from what I see my female childhood molesters posting on Facebook they will be there so...

>go to heaven
>everyone there is married
>you live for the eternity being a third wheeler
Hmmmm

>>82064923 (OP)
You really have to be a delusional retard to think heaven or hell exist. Religion is for stupid people that are too emotionally weak to handle how brutal life is so they cope with jewish desert fairytales.

>>82065169
Can you retards stop with that cope already?
Literally the biggest geniuses and inventors of humanity and of today are religious. Even the most anti religion intelectuals have to admit that, otherwise you're just making a foul of yourself

>>82065194
Show me some religious ppl I should look up to

>>82065194
>No you're dumb!
Grow up faggot. You're just a pile of dead monkey meat when you're worthless life finally ends. Get over yourself.

>>82065269
I'm not religious. I'm just pointing out a FACT
I don't know if you know, but facts are facts. The only logical solution you can have is to double down and say that most of humanity's geniuses were and are idiots

>>82065298
Humanity is not progressing unless you think record corporate profits are progress

>>82064923 (OP)
I like to think I will, or at least some form of pleasant afterlife. Certainly I hope there is some sort of ultimate justice for those who cause pain and greed in this world.

>>82064923 (OP)
How TF do I gen somehhing like this? Huge titted hot babes x 50, this is what AI is meant for.

>>82064923 (OP)
I don't believe in heaven but if there was one, yeah I'd deffinatly getting in (unless it's like religious heaven, then fuck that)
I try. Hard. To be a better kinder humane person. Despite the world chewing me out.

>>82065256
Pick literally any genius that transformed how the world works and there's a big chance that he's religious/spiritual
It's harder to do the opposite. Which atheists are great geniuses, inventors and scientists?

Alan Turing, Stephen Hawking, Paul Dirac, Richard Feynman, Nietzsche, Bertrand Russell, Sigmund Freud...
Just from the top of my head I can name 10 times more the ones that are religious/spiritual. And don't come with agnostic and skeptical, they just lack proof, they don't affirm that there's no God

>>82065169
In the end you don't know what the nature of existence is. Saying Oblivion comes after death is rooted in faith as much as saying heaven or hell comes next. The whole wet robot theory of existence is just completely unbearable. No motivation to be good or do good, just a total lack of any connection to the past or future. You can choose what you're going to have faith in, why have faith in something so miserable?

>>82065194
>appeal to authority, the post

>>82065516
These ppl have not transformed anything

>>82065536
>le fallacy
It's retarded to believe in something just because someone more powerful/intelligent also believes it, you need to rationalize it yourself but saying that people that believe that are automatically dumb is just stupidity
>here are some of the smartest people in history and they believe on what you said only stupid people believe
>AAAAAAAAAUTHORITY FALLACY

>>82064923 (OP)
yes, im going to heaven because god showed me his kingdom 4 times

why 4?

i dont know

maybe he felt that number was enough for me to understand that it was real

>>82064923 (OP)
I don't know
If I deserve it, so be it

>>82065169
Honestly I can't stand the cope of NDEs being used as "evidence" of life after death.
>hurr I saw muh family!!
>I was hovering over the operating table!!
You were tripping balls on the huge release of DMT which occurs naturally at the point your brain starts shutting down. You weren't fucking dead yet.

I recently underwent general anesthesia and I imagine death is just like that. 2 hours completely gone, I have no recollection, no experience or sensation, I didn't dream or think during that time. Just nothing, oblivion. Except it's eternal.

>>82064923 (OP)

I don't feel like I fully understand the concept of heaven. Sin is a result of free will and being an autonomous human. If heaven is free of sin, we lose any ability to sin, the good we do isn't by choice or morality, it's the only thing we can do. What purpose does a man find in heaven? What does he devote eternal time doing? Does it not feel wrong that life is a short test and those who fail it face a similarly endless punishment?

Even if I was told I was going to heaven, it would seem scary to me. Like my soul would just be forever trapped non-self governing state. No ability to interact with my world before and no way of saving those that didn't make it up with me, including those I spent my life with.

To a certain extent, it feels like I'd just become data in an afterlife. Some non-physical form, like an AI NPC just drifting in some computer simulation. The whole idea gives me anxiety.