What exactly do tradcucks think would happen if they got rid of porn?

>>82068710 (OP)
Increase birthrate and work participation.

a return to the 50s, obviously only this time with nice mixed race families because even tradcucks are still anti-racist.

>>82068710 (OP)
>>82068722
They dont even want to get rid of porn though. They want to get rid of free porn. Basically they want to have to pay somw retarded onlyfans whore so it counts towards muh gdp

>>82068710 (OP)
i am an anti porn conservative very happy with the recent developments. it will obviously make society less degenerate and porn kikes will make less money. win win.

>>82068710 (OP)
They (rightfully) think you'd be miserable and sexually frustrated like they are in their sexless marriage.

>>82068720
for normies sure

>>82068710 (OP)
Getting rid of porn is just the beginning of controlling the masses
It can be easily justified cause WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Despite the fact that the people pushing for all this shit were children at one point and turned out fine
>oh they didn't have as easy of access to it
Every kid since like 2000 has had easy access to internet porn unless their parents were dirt poor

>>82068783
>it will obviously make society less degenerate and porn kikes will make less money. win win.
hmm... maybe...
But I still NEED that pornography for training!!
I'm trying not to look at it so often, and maybe I do want to ditch it.
DAGA, there's no denying that, when used on occasion, it can have not SO much of a negative effect and can heighten the experience!!

>>82068720
>Increase birthrate and work participation.
You don't really believe this, do you? Lol. Lmao.

>>82069890
That's exactly the goal

For one, dumb little whores wouldn't become millionaires just by posting pictures of their snatch and demoralize an entire generation of males from wanting to work and teaching other young women that the key to success is being a whore. That's just for starters

>>82071551
Why should I give a fuck what people spend their money on and what whores do with their pussy? Prostitution is the worlds oldest profession for a reason

>>82071572
I don't give a fuck about YOU. I'm telling you what we are going to do, get over it, you lost.

>>82071577
>we won
>post a screenshot of a whore making a million in an hour tonight
Mind you, you are the porn addicted faggot that is cognizant about the current happenings of OnlyFans

>>82071590
Yeah, the porn addicted faggots are trying to ban porn and the normal people are fighting to the death to keep it. Sure, buddy.

They are slowly gearing up to ban it globally. It's not just the US. It is happening everywhere. Get over it. Move on. Beat off to your thoughts.

There's no way to get rid of it. The best thing to do is clean slate it so the degenerate shit is no longer the norm. The degenerate shit is what led to everything that's wrong with sexual relationships now-a-days. Men like to think those degenerate acts are the norm and expect us to go along with it. It isn't, and it's disgusting.

To note, I have no problem with porn in of itself. I don't even care that my fiancee watches it since we both agreed that we won't have sex until our wedding night since I want to lose my virginity to him when we consecrate our marriage.

>>82068710 (OP)
>Tradfags
>think

>>82068710 (OP)
it's because they think early access to porn is turning kids gay.
so basically lgbtq retards going crazy a few years ago with the pronouns shit caused these tradtards to research what was the cause of the uptick in faggot retards and they concluded that it was early porn access that caused the increase in sexual deviance.

they think society will seize to exist because everyone will turn gay from watching too much porn at a young age.

>>82071598
Does fighting porn entail going to NSFW boards on 4chan and posting screenshots showing how much Onlyfans girls made their first night? You are porn obsessed, you know what people who do not care about porn do? They do not look it up on the internet like you did to find that tweet

>>82071627
It doesn't matter what you believe but you clearly think something is wrong with porn addicts or you wouldn't be using to try to insult me. You clearly think porn is bad for people or you wouldn't use it ridicule. Porn should be banned. It isn't healthy for anyone. Nothing good comes out of porn. Nothing.

>>82071598
Birth rates are declining yet simpery and women's insane standards are in the stratosphere. I love porn, to the point it takes up too much my time even, but something needs to be done. At the very least 3dpd has to get got.

Normies can't help but extend the fantasy to reality as well and ruin it for everyone.

>>82071639
I personally dont give a shit what people do with their dicks/vaginas and online time but there is no way a person can find online tweets about OnlyFans actresses without having an Adult 18+ Twitter account meaning you have a Twitter specifically for watching porn while riding a moral high horse against it which is hilarious.

Because YOU have a porn problem you want it to be illegal for other adults to have access to something that has been around since the caveman days, because YOU are up late night on a work night reading about how much an OF model made you think other men will have trouble being motivated to work

>>82068710 (OP)
>>82068722
I want to return to the 50s
The 1750s

>>82071679
>1750's
No thanks. I don't want to go back to the time where they had to amputate a limb due to a what is now-a-days a simple everyday infection thanks to modern sanitation without any anesthetic except hard alcohol.

>>82071667
>I personally dont give a shit what people do with their dicks/vaginas
Yeah, the typical line from the progressive. Luckily the normie is beyond this line of thinking. They see where it has led. What people choose to do with their body does very much impact you. We live in a society together, not independent of one another, and we should start demanding a little more from the people around us.

>>82068710 (OP)
nothing, it's just their form of virtue signalling

>>82071667
When tradfags start talking about porn being some super addictive and destructive thing like it's heroin, they're always telling on themselves. It's like an alcoholic saying we should go back to prohibition. I actually think there are some big problems with the porn industry but the actual victims are the performers in the videos, not people jerking off at home.
>>82071710
Normal people don't want to ban porn, you have a warped view of reality from spending too much time on twitter

>>82071710
You are right, I demand a little more honesty from you it is embarrassing watching you squirm about pretending you did not purchase that OF subscription this evening in addition to everything else. I do not expect a ban to take the place of discipline when you are that far gone on the porn.

>>82071732
>but the actual victims are the performers
Not that guy but this is an insanely retarded take lmao. Actual prostitutes sure, but women fingering themselves on camera are "victims" in the same actors and musicians are, in that they aren't at all. They can stop anytime they want and work a shitty soulless 9-5 like everyone else, retard.

>>82068710 (OP)
They are delusional. It will increase the chance of rape. Male sexual frustration (inceldom) is worse than ever.
They should ban fuck apps and social media, so foids can only choose from people they know, instead of every fucking Chad in a hundred miles.
Foids have to go back to fucking their looks-matches if this civilisation has any hope of continuing. But this will never happen. Genie is out the bottle.

>>82068710 (OP)
if they were true tradcucks theyd know that even grugs drew trad porn like picrel

>>82071758
I'm talking about girls who shoot for pro porn companies, not OF camgirls. They usually have drug problems and get groomed from a young age to fuck their lives up.

>>82071773
it's not about the porn and birth rates, it's being banned because they think porn turns kids gay. this is their attempt to stop the lgbt community from growing at the rate that it's growing.

>>82071786
I can see it, I would suck a dick for drugs right now as a guy with a terrible life. Good thing nobody wants to see this on camera

Porn is just another recruitment tool for the left wing death cult.

>Pornography use may diminish aspects of religiosity: Studies show that viewing pornography can be associated with decreased religious service attendance, diminished importance of religious faith, lower prayer frequency, reduced perceived closeness to God, and increased religious doubts.

>Cognitive dissonance and guilt: Individuals who view pornography may experience discomfort or internal conflict (cognitive dissonance) if they hold strong religious beliefs that condemn such behavior. To alleviate this dissonance, some may distance themselves from religious practices or beliefs, leading to a decline in their religious commitment. Religious individuals often report higher levels of perceived addiction and negative feelings related to pornography use, according to the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

>Increased religious doubt: Pornography use has been directly linked to increased religious doubts, particularly during early teenage years. This suggests a potential connection between engaging in behavior that conflicts with religious teachings and questioning the validity of those teachings.

>>82071833
Correlation =/= causation
Religious people dont watch porn due to guilt whereas people who aint religious dont have that feeling someone is watching them beat off

>>82071833
>Potential catalyst for secularization: Some researchers propose that increasing pornography use among younger individuals may contribute to broader societal trends of secularization.

It's clear why liberals are so quick to defend porn.

>>82068720
South Korea is proof that it won't work and in fact it will get worse

>>82071833
>>82071843
If Christianity were true you wouldn't need government regulation to compel people to believe in it

>>82071863
They had to have Crusades to get people to believe in Christianity

>>82068710 (OP)
Historical analysis:
Any society that limits young men's option to mate without providing an alternative (burlesque shows, boy-love, prostitution, or PORN (like wood block prints and shit in the old days)), immediately faces large groups of angry violent men, that become fodder for demagogues who thrown women under the bus (as a prize). This is how you get Asian/Muslim/Indian/Persian sexism. For better or worse christianity was really good railroading women into marriage at 16-20yo locking them down before the slut phase.

>>82071863
>If Christianity were true
Let me stop you right there, I don't care if it is true or not. I prefer the society that Christianity creates as opposed to the one YOU have created. It is shit.

>>82071893
>Let me stop you right there, I don't care if it is true or not
that's blasphemy my friend, you better go to confession

>>82071905
The cattle need a god to tell them what to do or else people like you tell them what to do and everything becomes shit.

>>82071913
kek you think you're an anime villain or something that's cool bro

>>82071905
They would have burned you at the stake or tortured you for this 400 or so years ago and they thought it was perfectly fine and healthy. Separation of Church and State is important so you don't go around executing people for blasphemy

>>82071833
Seems like the solution then is just for religion to become more welcoming to those who watch porn then? I mean jesus hang out with prostitutes and Muhammad was having sexo with 9 year olds, I think an exception wouldn't be difficult to make here.

>>82068783
It will only increase rape, but it makes sense that conservatives would be happy with that too.

This board is a good example of why porn should be banned. Half this board have turned into prison gay from all the weird fembot porn and many of them will probably troon out.

>>82072378
These retards sit in their basement all day spamming about nigger dick and then cry when people get fed up with their porn addiction spread all around the internet.

>>82068729
Payment processors won't let you buy porn anymore though.

>>82068720
Which shows how delusional they are. People won't suddenly start getting success in dating or start working because they watch less porn. People love to manufacture correlations that have no basis in reality and they'll use it as an excuse to push for governmental violence and oppression. Feminists do the exact same thing. These are some evil people.

>>82072886
If showing burgers and fries in commercials didn't increase sales then massive corporations wouldn't spend shitloads of money advertising it. There's no reason porn can't work the same way by artificially increasing demand, therefore also increasing the price of sex. Face reality, retard.

>>82072949
Also I'm not a tradcontard. I generally find conservatism to be not only pointlessely sadistic, but also blatantly irrational. Tradition is generally just a competition to see which societies can trick their populations into living by the dumbest bullshit rules.

This on the otherhand is simply about economics.

>>82072949
Women are the ones refusing to pair up and reproduce...

>>82071551
maybe whores should not gatekeep sex for the 80 percent of undesirable men, thats their fault. they did that to themselves, and whoring and prostitution is a practice as old as time. its not "le evil men grooming le innocent wymins"

>>82072402
Except that is wrong. Nothing has happened to onlyfans and places where women can sell porn of themselves. Almost as if this is just another step of the humiliation of incels. They want to force you to have to pay women to jerk off.

>>82072949
it worked because they offered it cheaper and was convenient during how fast paced society is. convenient = sales, retard.

>>82072949
What's your point and realistic solution?

>>82068710 (OP)
They think they will still be able to watch porn, it is virtue signaling. Like that Republican senator that was homophobic but got caught sliding his foot under the bathroom stall with the undercover officer, every accusation is an admission from that group
Same group of people who said they would release Epstein files day one because Biden and Clinton were on it, I imagine the porn shit is meant to distract from that not being revisited

>>82068710 (OP)
People would be more interested in normal relationships and families. Instead of gooning, fantasizing about sexual deviancy, or changing their gender all day, they'd have more natural progression through sexual development, social development, and bonding. The main problem with porn is that it doesn't lead into anything other than the sexual deviancy or sexual gratification. It's just mindless consumption that unfortunately brainwashes and grooms too many young kids.

>>82073695
This. It's like the women who say they would reject ugly men but then you find out that women only date ugly men and reject Chad.

>>82068720
Women are the bottleneck for the low birthrates though. Would removing porn make them less chad only, or what?

>>82073708
Women are not men, they don't have enough testosterone to be men. Removing porn (at least for teens) would make men more motivated to engage with girls and build relationships before it becomes too late.

>>82073708
Sex is going to go for whatever price women can sell it for, just like any other commodity. If demand lowers (due to normgroids not having porn to get addicted to and then seeking out real women to fulfill their delusional fantasies) then women will be forced to fuck non-chads as most are not mentally resilient enough to live alone like incels, which would be the result otherwise. The women that won't lower their standards probably already aren't in the dating market anyway. This is the only organic way to lower women's standards, as normoids won't allow women to be subjugated despite how much incels piss themselves and cry about it.

Only braindead retarded faggots can't understand the basic math here.

>>82073725
This is a good way to spin it to get normalfucks on board. Even redditards might buy it.

>>82073725
Take away porn and women will still reject most men. They'll just have more simps due to men being more desperate, which of course is the actual goal of these feminist tradcon subhumans.

>>82073817
Based let me cook.
You'd be surprised what men can accomplish when they aren't gooning, assuming men want to do other things. Even the entire subculture that men created around gooning, transitioning, sodomy, BDSM, etc. is a testament to how self-determination in men is the rule, not the exception. Women can't really change how a man turns out in general, but influences like porn, drugs etc. can certainly shape and warp his values, especially if those things are marketed and pushed by other men.

>>82073836
Even if I was going to take your mental retardation argument seriously, the birthrates would still go up. China is a country where 100% of its population are "simps" but in the 20th century they still had adult sex and popped out a trillion babies.

>>82073859
>foid wants us to worship them
no thanks, ill goon instead. enjoy defending yourself from a pajeet or something though femanon

>>82073859
You really don't have an argument at all here. You just insist that somehow taking porn away will change women's behaviour because "it just will."

You're a retard; kill yourself.

>>82073725
>make men more motivated to engage with girls
men are already quite motivated to engage with girls. The middest of bitches has 10 guys in her dms

>>82073764
lol make up your minds already, will porn decrease or increase the attention that women get?

>>82071833
>left wing death cult
nigga look where you are, do you honestly think most people on 4chan are leftwing? /gif/ is the biggest porn addiction hellhole ever and its full of the most racist right wing faggots imaginable
they will goon to bbc and then go on other boards lamenting the death of the white race

>>82074100
/gif/ has more prominent BWC threads than BBC which should indicate that it is exactly what you say it is, a right wing board. I dont know why right wingers are pretending they do not like porn and sex

Who was Trump found to cheat on his wife with in a court of law? A woman who worked in what industry? Trying to fool themselves is comical

>>82073836
Delusion cope, women already take an assload of antidepressants and fuck dogs and they are still miserable, and men are more simped out then ever before. Take that away by removing men's addiction to the fake bullshit they see in porn and they have no choice.

Men don't manifest these sex pest fantasies out of thin air, incels like yourself are so deranged and desperate for sex because you literally don't understand it, you think you can catch the porn dragon but the real thing is actually quite boring in comparison. You'd know that if you ever actually had sex.

>>82074100
>nigga look where you are, do you honestly think most people on 4chan are leftwing?
I think it's a bit more complicated. For instance, economically, I'm very left wing, almost communist, but, I also hate women, faggots, and niggers, so stupid democrats would call me far right.

By get rid of porn you mean putting everyone involved with producing, filming, editing, distributing, and modeling for the porn industry into prison camps where they are forced to do labor? It would probably go like banning drugs. But drug laws main purpose is to make everyone afraid of going to prison. The implication being locked in close quarters with evil, violent, rapey people. The average cartel torturer is practically a nun compared to the people involved with porn, so I imagine crime rates would drop even further due to the huge increase in deterrent effect of prison. Like would you rather be in jail with the ms13, the mafia, the blood crypts, or porn industry? First three are about equally bad, the porn people are more bad than the last three put together.

Porn addicts will cope in a million ways before they admit that there might be something wrong with it.

>>82074242
objectively, the only bad thing about porn is that women and jews make money from it

>>82074123
Trump is a neoliberal progressive. He supports higher taxes, he's anti gun, he wants more desert wars, to wants more immigrants coming in to the country. Basically he's Hillary Clinton but with a smaller dick.

>>82068710 (OP)
Less men watching men fuck women that they want to fuck.

>>82074259
Yes, and it causes harm to the user, especially when they use it often.

>>82068710 (OP)
Because they're too scared to do what needs to be done and take away women's rights.

"Repeal the 19th" is unironically what needs to happen but no one has the will to do it.

>>82068710 (OP)
Less kids will be addicted to porn. Somehow banning porn will revert all of society and culture to the 1950s. I'm all for banning kids from accessing porn, but to think it'll "save" society? Yeah, no

>>82074334
>Yes, and it causes harm to the user
like what

>>82068710 (OP)
I'm just not going to approach or talk to women or even acknowledge their existence, you can ban porn and censor the entire Internet and all other forms of media, but it's too late the cat is out the bag, nobody wants to settle for Chads leftovers after she's done riding the cock carousel and having her fun, just imagine wanting to wageslave for some postwall cunt that treats sex as a commodity you must earn and barter for after she's been giving it up for free since the age of 15 that then divorcerapes you the moment you finally earn a good living. At this point two entire generations have been blackpilled by woman's behaviour and it seems that generation alpha is already discovering the same reality.

The funny thing too is that men don't need all the retarded consumerist junk that women demand men provide. You give a zoomer a tiny room, desk, chair and gaming rig and some drugs like alcohol or weed and that dude ain't ever leaving. Entire economies survive soley off women purchasing retarded shit with mens money or labour, something like 80-90% of consumer purchase are done by women, the majority of tourism, clubs, pubs, restaurants and service based business depend on women attracting men so that they buy them shit, and the reason these industries are dying is because why would a man go waste his money to get rejected, whilst Chad won't buy shit doe them either.

Even if you removed women's rights and gave men property rights to some used up roastie its already over, no man worth his salt will bust his ass for a whore or a society that expects him sacrifice himself for the upkeep of whores.

>>82068710 (OP)
Jesus will stop crying because he will no longer be obligated to watch you masturbate.

>>82074056
>motivated
>dms
lol

>>82074046
Spelling behavior like a fucking retard is not an argument. Spending time watching porn only teaches you how to goon. Spending time raising a family teaches you how to raise a family. Its not complicated at all.

>>82074786
Banning porn is not intended to save the incel species, its too late for them. It's intended to stop the creation of new incels (and the incel to tranny pipeline)

>>82074786
>I'm just not going to approach or talk to women or even acknowledge their existence, you can ban porn and censor the entire Internet and all other forms of media, but it's too late the cat is out the bag, nobody wants to settle for Chads leftovers after she's done riding the cock carousel and having her fun

Yeah I also don't get what is the big idea behind this banning spree other than dumb christian fundamentalism. If you are at a point where you gave up on women chances are that you have some stuff on your HDD and are savy enough to use local AI models so the ban achieves nothing.

>>82074983
its more buddhism than christian, but yeah there is always a point where the government decides enough suffering is enough. they will still let some people watch porn and do fentanyl, but only the scummiest people in society.

>>82068720
>increase birthrate
Maybe? However, economics is a huge barrier to child birth
>work participation
Not happening as a result of immediately banning porn. Colleges have record lows of male populations and many degrees are simply not worth going to school for. Many STEM degrees are now worthless.

>>82075013
economics improve with child birth. also nobody cares about college anymore. there's a lot you could accomplish when you aren't cattle being milked for your sperm all day.

>>82074970
Women create incels, porn is their cope, male children from the moment they are conscious are aware that they are competing in a social hierarchy with Chad, this was evident to me at the age of 3, what wasn't so obvious was the social dynamics of transactional sex that adults engage in or the amount of bullshit that men have to put up with for the privilege to access a used up smelly hole.

Besides banning porn won't fix the population pyramid, there will always be a surplus of men during peaceful times, even if you somehow magically paired everyone up there will always be a man leftover, and if you want to fix the tranny proplem then first get rid of womens artificial social advantages that motivate loser men to switch sides.

>>82075118
>women create incels
>wait i mean the chads at the top of the social hierarchy create incels
>wait i mean women have smelly holes and being gay creates incels
>wait i mean "surplus" gender ratios create incels
>wait no, i mean having social disadvantages creates incels who become trannies

Who do you think you are fooling? Yes, we know that porn obviously creates incels, within the broader conversation of mindless self-indulgence interfering with puberty and healthy development. The solution doesn't just stop at limiting the unhealthy habits, it would obviously also make holes less stinky if the goal is to increase birth rates and bring civilization back together. We could let it collapse further and let natural selection pick out the best men and women, but if we already know the solution then why should we? Porn has zucced too much life out of young men, and we can give them something better.

>>82075118
>porn is their cope
Nah, delusion is your cope. Normie men also consume porn, even if they are married they consume it, and then they cheat on their wife to fulfill their porn induced delusion, so porn has the effect of convincing one man to take several women off the market for himself.
>there will always be a surplus of men during peace
There's a surplus of YOUNG men because men die more, so more have to be born to replace the dead one's, but there is actually a surplus of older women also. Due to fisher's principle there is always a roughly even ratio of men to women in a given population.

>>82068710 (OP)
More Simping and defering to women.
Since they are simps, they believe that just simping enough will work with women.
>Just simp more goys, to increase the birth rate n shiet

>>82075118
Population pyramid without porn: maybe 1% or 2% of men are incels

Population cuckmid with porn: 89% of men are sexless incels and most of them do not enjoy being incels.

Why do you think porn is a special type of "cope" retard? Men who pop fentanyl become zombies. It wasn't the job market or the economy that made them zombies, those are just factors that make it easier to take fentanyl. You look at cities that removed the accessibility to fetty or made it harder to do it out in the open, WOW suddenly there were fewer zombies and people lived generally better. Its one factor sure but it's such an obvious and objectively solvable one.

>>82068720
I wish I thought things were are simple as you do.

>>82071620
>it's because they think early access to porn is turning kids gay
except it is. as yoda once said...
>Straight leads to femdom. Femdom leads to bi. Bi leads to faggotry.

>>82075224
Hetero men are incapable of cooperating sexually on a biological level, so whatever solution has to come from men's end, as much as it makes inkwells seethe. Do you even know of any time in human history where men cooperated to achieve a collective gender based goal for one another? Because seemingly it's alway been the opposite.

On the otherhand women have been using their collective sexual power over men even using it, or the lack of it, to levy the end of wars since ancient greece.

>>82075188
From the moment you are born it's obvious is if you are a Chad or a genetically inferior male, also it's very clear that there is a massive male surplus because men aren't dying to such a degree they did in the past, unless you want to pair 20 males with 70s females

>>82075193
>married men watch porn
>incels watch porn

Clearly then porn has no effect if porn consumers still get married and reproduce, incels are caused by genetics as their lifestyle habits aren't different to sexhavers then?

>>82068710 (OP)
They believe it will increase the birthrate but in reality it will only give women *more* power and when women have power they use it to fuck chad, not have kids.
The actual way to increase the birthrate would be to legalize prostitution, taking away women's control over sex. When men can get sex from whores they will look to regular women for qualities such as whether she'd be a good wife/mother/gf instead of thinking "damn I'll do anything to fuck her."

>>82075271
>massive
>1%
how is that massive? are you saying there are only 1% of men who become incels?

>>82075310
Where did you pull the 1%, your asshole?

>>82075271
Using "genetics" as an argument while you are actively trying to say that 10,000 years of human civilization and lessons learned through tradition are wrong is mind boggling. Your genetics are LITERALLY a product of the lifestyles and traditions that men have clearly laid out for you long before you were born. If you do degenerate shit, simulate sex with strangers, lust after women that aren't yours, then your own LITERAL genetics will tell you that you are doing something wrong and your brain will want to sudoku.

Some people are deformed mutants who will never have a chance. Most people are not surplusoids nor are they mutoids, so your argument has nothing to do with the real world.

>>82075269
>men are incapable of cooperating sexually on a biological level
yes, but they are capable of cooperation on an ideological level.
this will work, just telling men to do more for no benefit will not work.
Taking away their distractions to force them into it, will just make them angry enough at you, for them to eventually do something, like guillotining you.

>>82075330
The chart you posted, you retarded troglodyte. Are you saying incels are just 1% of men?

>>82075351
>taking away distractions makes people more focused on improving their own lives
is this supposed to be complicated? being a slave to porn is clearly not a good thing or else people wouldn't call it "involuntary"

>>82075345
>If you do degenerate shit, simulate sex with strangers, lust after women that aren't yours, then your own LITERAL genetics will tell you that you are doing something wrong and your brain will want to sudoku.
oh boy. just stick to the fried dopamine receptors anon. at least that one is somewhat believable when you don't think about it.

>>82068710 (OP)
I'm convinced that anti-porn advocates are borderline retarded. Not even using the insult definition of the word, no I think they are near legitimately retarded and due to their low intelligence they have extreme difficulty using 3rd person perspective.

>>82075395
Peak. Anyway you can't be a feminist progressive while also invoking genetic determinism. Go pick one and stop contradicting yourself.

>>82075305
>women
>having any power
cuck.

men fucked a lot of whores during the hippie free love era. they didn't look for good wives. and that's when birth rates start falling.

>>82073708
They're not gonna ban smut or romance novels so probably not.
It does the same thing as porn, gives them high expectations and fries their dopamine.
But that's not the root problem;
>>82074786
>>82075118
These are good points. The average man is now more disillusioned from women than ever, and it's not their fault; the sole problem doesn't lie in porn either. You're not going to get rid of the weeds by mowing the grass. Bandaid solutions never work.
I'd like to add; the reason the projects are so full of drugs and killings, is because everyone's so bored and miserable. Without stimulation, the mind seeks it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgmL4TQCNtI
This shit won't magically turn chuds (70% of all men) into chad. It won't erase or hide all the years spent being rejected by your peers, or family; being expected to be a fucking golem making 1.5 big macs an hour for no chance at a family life, while the world shits on you and wishes for your death.
Go for it though, I'm on the edge of my seat. Let's see what the world would look like without an outlet for these frustrations.

>>82075345
Your lifestyle had nothing in commo with your ancestors from 10000BC kys tradlarper

>>82075481
Penis in vagina. Simple as. Next

>>82075478
It's not supposed to erase years from degenerate whores who wasted their lives on degeneracy. It's supposed to help future generations from wasting their lives. All that awaits the consoomer who pissed away his life is death

>>82075521
This isn't the root problem.
You're not trying to create a better world, you're trying to take away the only cope chuds have for being maidenless.

Life will still be shitty for future generations on, because this will do nothing to change women themselves. They will still whore around and self-deprecate. There will still be incels, and there will probably be gooners.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mP-iXdzTCHs

Real reactionaries support porn because we know it is a way for us to exploit and humiliate women and make money off it. That is the real why most feminist groups are anti-porn and anti-prostitution.

The Christcucks are siding with the feminists to try and ban porn and prostitution as a way to attack make sexuality.

>>82074628
Erectile dysfunction is pretty common in young men these days. So used to porn, they can't get a boner when they have the chance to actually fuck.

>>82075713
Why do they turn to porn though?
Are there any plans to fix the root cause?

>>82075730
Because adolescents respond very strongly to immediate gratification. We already know the root cause, that's literally why porn should be more restricted. Why do you think there are laws around when you can or can't buy alcohol or cigarettes?

>>82075713
That is not erectile dysfunction, that is just being anxious around women when naked. In this case it is because zoomers are hanging around girls less and having less sex. These guys are young there is nothing wrong with their dicks lmao, its just nerves. Erectile dysfunction is an old man thing.

>>82075649
>porn and prostitution
These aren't the samething at all you retarded faggot. It's like comparing streamers to mechanics, prostitutes are fine they actually solve the problem to some degree (which is why it's illegal almost every because jews hate it), porn doesn't do shit but make men deluded irrational simps. This is why most faggots don't just stop with porn they have to keep going deeper until they are raping little kids like the creepy subway faggot.

>>82075762
It took me 3 months to stay hard during sex when I first started. Had nothing to do with anxiety, I just wasn't as excited by just seeing one person in front of me and having to move my body. I kept fantasizing about porn stars and random positions in my head. It was literally over for a while but I got better.

>>82068720
the way to increase the birthrate is to get rid of birth control.

>>82075761
No, the root cause is misery.
The reason the magic box is so addictive is because the world outside it is bland by comparison. If you try to surround people with brutal modernist architecture, and give them goals they will never achieve, that you yourself say they will never achieve, they'll give up.
There are many nuances to the human experience you refuse to see because you're thinking like a ceo. The age restriction on alcohol/cigarettes never kept people from becoming alcoholics or chainsmokers for the same reason.
Having porn locked to 21+ is a good idea, but getting rid of it altogether is just fucking dumb. Look at what happened with prohibition.
If you want people to stop being addicted, stop making life shit for them; the rat race craves escape.
I was thinking about a side-effect to this actually; it'll turn incels into frustrated sex pests who harass random women like jeets.

>>82068710 (OP)
They're legitimately retarded and want to live in some fantasy ideal of the 1950s that never existed beyond marketing advertisements. Prohibition never works. Just like it didn't work with marijuana and alcohol. The UK and Japan don't allow people to have guns and knives and people still kill each other there. It's all stupid idealism. If humans want something they will find a way and push regardless of what control freaks want. Trying to get rid of porn will just make more illegal black markets/websites and more angry single men that then focus their anger on worse topics.

>>82075824
>it'll turn incels into frustrated sex pests who harass random women like jeets.
So then incels aren't sexually frustrated because they have porn? No, that's retarded, porn doesn't satisfy you at all it just reminds you what you're missing out and gives you simp FOMO. It's why incels never get better and just wallow and obsess over women all day instead of doing something else.

>>82075879
The FOMO for me started in HS when I saw couples walking around, or when I was rejected for being too short, or when I'd was excluded. Porn had nothing to do with it, it was more about how public education failed my generation.
It only got worse bro. I'm mid 20's now, walking around like a zombie. I've been rejected a few times since then.
The FOMO of the average incel stems from everyone telling you that having a family is the final achievement a human can make, and that there's no better feeling; and then flaunting that you'll never have one. THAT is what makes an emulation of reproduction seem better than actually going out and doing it, because you know through a lifetime of drillings from your peers that you'll never do it. It's not about fulfillment, it's about making that little bastard shut up so you can go back to work.
I would have thought you of all people, the eugenicist type would be ok with this.

>>82075879
>porn doesn't satisfy you at all
As a normalfag, it definitely does when your gf isn't available for da sex or is ill or whatever. Get one out quick and get on with your day at no cost to anyone
>inb4 some puritanical abstinence snake oil pitch

>>82075262
In reality fags and bifags hate each other, with the fags calling bifags fakers because they're not into muscular hairy men.

>>82075824
you can be miserable and still have a heterosexual relationship. not everything has to be about hedonism and mindless self-indulgence.

>>82075953
For every short goblin zombie like you, there are 1000 perfectly average men who think they are "rejected" while they do absolutely nothing to build relationships. This porn issue didn't matter when it was just genetic freaks who were relegated to their little furry fandom. Now it matters because it grooms and brainwashed tons of completely normal men. They think 5'11 is "too short" and 7 inches is "too small", directly as a result of that runaway degeneracy.

>>82068710 (OP)
it's simple, you get the feeling that you're not an incel thats it

>>82076271
>while they do absolutely nothing to build relationships
When will women start building relationships?

>>82075649
>is a way for us to exploit and humiliate women and make money off it.
Contrary to what a few sadist POS or feminazis/cuckservatives like to claim, female porn stars are beloved and get treated like royalty.

>>82068720
Porn increase birth rates as it makes men more perverted than a sexually repressed nation.

>>82075649
>The Christcucks
Their only agenda is making sure (You) don't have too much fun on this horrible planet they hate so much. They know from history that if you're sexually frustrated you'll be so horny you'll turn to them for "support" which in this case is just dumb fairy tales about a rabbi who can make you happy if you give up your humanity.

Never trust those mentally ill fun-haters, they want you as miserable as they are.

>>82076271
average doesn't cut it these days

women will tell you as much

>>82076271
Porn doesn't prevent average people from getting laid, if it did then they're not normalfags retard

>>82077086
You'd think that would be the case but, actually when men become overly perverted women just start sharing chads and taking birth control. You see because kids are just something women do to lock down men, but when the men are desperate enough they no longer need to sacrifice their bodies to get what they want.

>>82068710 (OP)
They don't know or care. All they want is to exert control over the populace. If they ban porn they'll move on to other things like banning "bad" music or tattoos. They want everyone to be (un)happy little slaves. They are ontologically evil and must be opposed now and forever.

>>82068710 (OP)
they want to push young men into the military and will take away all of their copes and neetbux