Why does height matter so much to women?

>>82071766 (OP)
damn she has such nice hips

>>82071766 (OP)
I don't care too much, i prefer my boyfriend to be taller than me (im 5'4) but not over 6ft where the difference is too much. But girls like height because it makes them feel safe and protected. So if you're short just get jacked.

>>82071803
>>82071766 (OP)

Safe and protected from what exactly? What scenario would a tall boyfriend be more capable of protecting his lard ass girlfriend in than a 5'8" dude of the same or even greater strength?

>>82071766 (OP)
Women either consciously or subconsciously expect a tall man to have a proportionally long dick.

>>82071839
Luv this wojakshit

>>82071766 (OP)
im a little taller for a woman and wear heels all the time so id like someone whos at least slightly taller than me in most of my heels, but also ive found men get incredibly insecure about me being taller than them either naturally taller or taller with heels. i dated a 5'4 guy and hed seethe all the time about my height

>>82071839
other men and shit. a guy whos tall and muscly is gonna be more intimidating to any potential aggressors than a guy whos short or shorter than his gf

im chronically ill so im not strong despite my height and id like to feel safe when i go outside

>>82071858
this woman i knew online was 4'11 and dated a 6'8 guy and had the audacity to complain he had a 5inch penis

>>82071839
I don't really know desu. It's like how a woman with wide fertile hips could actually be infertile. I guess it's a subconscious message? I'm thin but I find it a bit embarrassing to be bigger than my boyfriend. So if he's skinnier somehow, I'd like him to be taller than me, if he's on the shorter side, I'd like him to be physically bigger than me, in fat or muscle doesn't matter. Also 5'8 is tall to me so. But all in all I honestly wouldn't give two shits about height if the person I liked had a loving, caring personality. It's like how the prettiest person could say something retarded and you immediately lose feelings for them, but in reverse.

Also why add picrel I literally said no taller than 6ft lol

>>82071839
This. Being overly tall and elongated is a disadvantage. The dwarf class mogs tall skellys in fighting and working.

>>82071896
Then why do most women prefer a tall skinny guy who would in all likelihood get folded by a shorter stronger guy. The reason short guys get offended is because by saying this you are directly attacking their masculinity and saying they aren't capable of protecting you while some other guy could.

Same idc about height and im actually attracted to short men but personality matters most. My current bf is a bit taller than average but it's his personality that drew me in

Natural instinct, not always rational
The same reason we like 20yo girls more than 40yos

>>82071839
i mean they have weight classes for a reason....

>>82071916
Thats however rational and instinctual. How many babies is a 40 yo gonna give you

>>82071915
Yeah same. I met him online and I fell in love with him without even knowing what he looked like at all. Ended up being local somehow.

>>82071903
Women's obsession with being infantilized and babied enrages me. You are a grown fucking woman, stop acting like a fucking toddler. Every woman wants a big strong guy and she wants to call him daddy and all that weird shit. It's fucking weird and disgusting and objectifying like the men are just a prop for you to feel small next to.

>>82071766 (OP)
Women think of their children when courting and mating with a man so, I guess they want a tall bf who eventually becomes her husband and father of their future tall sons and model-tier daughters?
Short women are literally gatekeeped from ever becoming models, btw. To them this is as grim as how a manlet will never be a sperm donor if he is not at least 5'10" tall.

>>82071922
Yeah but more often than not an average height dude who is more muscular and heavier will be passed up for some 6'3 twig, it's not based in reality

>>82071943
>Get tall bf
>Still get short kids because you are literally 5'1

>>82071943
>Women think of their [future] children
Sorry, forgot to proofread my post.

It doesn't. After all you are 6'3" and a kissless virgin.

>>82071914
a lotta tall skinny guys have a sleeper build and go to the gym and arent lanklets

i didnt even attack the guys masculinities or make fun of them (i wouldn't do that to my partner), they seethe because of their own insecurities about it. it happens every fucking time as soon as i bring up my height

>>82071933
It has nothing to do with being infantilized and the daddy shit is weird as fuck anyway. My dad is 5'3. Women are biologically weaker than men and for thousands of years men have been the ones to protect their woman, not the other way around. Again, it's like how you'd prefer a woman with big hips and tits because it shows fertility, even if you don't want kids.

>>82071950
>A lot
Negligible amounts really

>>82071915
>>82071927
Would you have swiped left or right on them before you met them based only on their appearance

>>82071945
I know, right? But I guess women don't mind as much if a daughter is born, but they surely give a ton of copes to their short sons, sadly.
Tall men belong with tall women, simple as.

>>82071953
ive never met one who hasnt

>>82071957
>Tall men belong with tall women, simple as.
Yeah basically. So glad I am dutch and women here are at least 5'7". Kind of limits your dating pool though since you cant go international.

>>82071955
Dating apps are for vapid retards you will never catch me using one. Whenever I've started liking someone it was always me catching feelings for a male friend of mine. So i always knew, and was attracted to their personalities before.

>>82071960
Thats fine, personal anecdotes dont mean much in the grand scheme of things. Most people dont exercise especially if results dont come, which happens more often for tall men since building noticable muscle takes a longer time.
T. Dutch man

>>82071766 (OP)
women have a sissy fetish and want to feel like lil sissies next to their tall bf

>>82071952
Considering all else equal between two women, I coulditerally go with the big tit wide hip one or a petite one depending on how I'm feeling that day. I do not feel I'm bound by caveman instincts which is why it's annoying to me that most women seem to be bound by cavewoman instincts

>>82071969
Please just answer the question

>>82071839
>Safe and protected from what exactly?
You ask that question like you don't know it's an instinct. They don't actually know. They *feel* "safe and protected" and that's all that matters to their foidbrain.

>>82071970
Like these are closer to what average lanklets can achieve, since they arent full nba players with access to all kinds of stimulants yet are more active and exercise than anyone else.

>>82071955
I was a retard that didn't read the response properly but I love him more than anything and think he's the prettiest person in the whole world so unfortunately I can't really answer that due to bias. I'd pick him in every universe no matter what he looked like.

>>82071896
how tall are you in heels?

>>82071981
I'm sorry I didn't see which post you were responding to first, that's on me. I answered you properly now

>>82071896
I fucking love tall women and I hate that the entire dynamic means I don't fit in anywhere. Never gonna fuck my dragon princess.

>>82071996
my heels heights range from 3-7inches, so the max height i get to is 6'3

>>82071952
It has everything to do with wanting to feel small and tiny and having a big stone wall man protect you and it's fucking annoying like grow the fuck up. Realistically anything that is a threat to you in the modern world is also a threat to your boyfriend. Any random crackhead could have a gun or a knife and kill him just as easily as he would kill you.

>>82071995
I hope he dies tomorrow

>>82072003
>i only want a 6'4+ man teehee
>my standards are reasonable
kill yourself my guy

>>82072015
they dont need to be taller than all my heels, most of my heels are 3-4inches, so like 6' preferably. no taller than 6'4. id probably date someone shorter than me if they werent a massive faggot about my height or fetishised it

>>82072003
damn, that's pretty damn tall and would heightmog most men easily
do you yourself feel insecure when you heightmog your boyfriend in heels?
would you wear heels that make you taller than your boyfriend?

>>82072032
>or fetishised it
WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT THEN

>>82071766 (OP)
because its hot. online I ask height in first 10 minutes of conversation. I dont like too tall. My bf is 4 inches taller than me and it's perfect.

>>82071766 (OP)
Because muh safety and submissiveness.
Despite their feminist brainwashing, they still want to be dominated, and treated like helpless children.
Sadly, the 'ideal height ratio' is for the foid to be just under 92% of a man's height.
For a manlet like me, I'd have to go for a foid that is a smidge under 4'11.6. Yet she still wants a 6'+ Chad.

>>82072041
i enjoy heightmogging random men in public but i dont get as much of a kick out of it when it comes to men im dating

im insecure when it comes to relationships cause i wanna be the shorter one, maybe put on heels to be taller when i feel like being smug but its not like it turns me on or anything

>>82072044
men who fetishise tall partners want a mommy gf and im not a dominant person and find it gross

>>82072117
>and im not a dominant person
Fair. I like to tame big girls but that's a very common kind of guy you're describing.

>>82072070
Burn agonizingly in a house fire

>>82072131
ywnbt (you will never be tall)

>>82072117
"Men" who want a mommy gf are not men. An actual man, shorter or taller than you, would dominate you in bed and make you feel like a little girl.

>>82071766 (OP)
Because their primitive foid brains are still stuck in the stone age, this is why we need to revoke women's rights have have them go back as property again

>>82071766 (OP)
ALL WOMEN WANT SHORT MEN DEAD and this is a fact held by every women on earth

>>82072142
Ywnbw (you will never be white) + ywabf (you will always be fat)

Women want to feel like children

>>82072158
at least you understand it. men who want mommy gfs are effeminate and arent real men. its gross and gay

>>82072160
It truly is a retarded instinct. Feminism is pushing hard for a Pair bonding kind of relationship (which is monogamous, stable, and leads to males and females looking very similar) while they keep pushing for Tournament relationships (Chads fuck, incels suck, lots of dimorphism)
Either lose your freedoms or lose tallchad. You can only choose one.

>>82071944
Also you see super tall guys lose to much shorter and lighter guys in boxing and mma all the time. Diminishing returns on fighting ability after 6 foot for sure.

>>82072169
not being white is great + I could stop eating if I wanted to get thin. You on the other hand, well, ywnbt.

>>82072192
Holy cope + I'm 5'10" you ugly brown hobgoblin bwahahaha

>>82072217
You have no proof of either of your claims. Hard cope.

>>82071970
don't make me defend the roastie. women are utter cunts about height, but short men are also insecure as fuck about theirs, and tall men make it worse by acting like roasties themselves and trying to big dog short men. let's not pretend manlets aren't incredibly neurotic about their height in most cases.

>>82072117
if i were a woman id also probably wear huge heels everywhere to make men insecure for fun, cant even judge you for that one
>im insecure when it comes to relationships cause i wanna be the shorter one
that's why i asked, women have told me that they would never wear heels that made them taller than their boyfriend because it looks weird in pictures so i wanted to know your thoughts on that as taller woman
btw i have a fetish for taller women but i want to climb them and dominate them as opposed to having them act like my "mommy", so don't go dismissing us height fetishists that easily

>>82071766 (OP)
Because they're awful people who are shallow and heightist, OP. That's the reason why.

>personality bro, just improove

>>82071803
Holy shit, just admit that you're height obsessed because it makes your shitty stone age monkey brain get horny. baka just stop inventing retarded excuses like "it makes me feel protected". Your shitty 6'X" boyfriend's back and joint problems and atrial fibrillation aren't gonna protect him from a bullet.

>>82071896
foids genuinely believe we're intimidated by some skinny beanpole because of his legbones lmao. this is EXACTLY why they shouldn't be allowed into male spaces

>>82071766 (OP)
>Why does height matter so much to women
They are incestual autopedophiles. They will seethe at this but can't deny it.

>>82072158
>>82072174
>make you feel like a little girl.
Autopedophilic autogynephilia...

>>82071766 (OP)
>palestine flag
Do these trannies know that they'd be stoned to death if they lived there? It's so tiresome to watch all these retard anime pfps on Xitter with that flag in their username.

>>82072117
>i enjoy mocking random men for something they had no control over
>>82071896
>men get incredibly insecure about me being taller
Wonder why.

>>82072847
its not like im shoving it in their faces in public im literally just thinking these things in my head because im deeply insecure myself

>>82072235
All I said was that tall men dont muscle up, because it's really hard to for them if they're not bodybuilders and that most people give up if they don't see results. I didnt give a shit about the rest lol

>>82072117
>men who fetishise tall partners want a mommy gf and im not a dominant person and find it gross
women will type shit like this while wanting a man who's over a foot taller than them, who they also literally call "daddy"

>>82072864
Because that's how it's meant to be, Chud, that's nature. Men are meant to dominate and belittle and rape women. Now, let me tell you why the patriarchy is bad and why men are dangerous and bad as I fantasise about my 6'5" zaddy daddy rapist bad-boy twunk BF choking me unconscious while calling me his stupid slutty princess, Chud.

>>82071912
As a hairy bearded manlet let me tell you, dwarfmaxxing does not work

>>82071922
That's in combat sports, not street fighting
Shorter guy has a better reach for the balls

>>82071766 (OP)
If women can make fun of us for being short, then there shouldn't be a problem calling out their fridge bodies.

>>82073080
>shouldn't be a problem calling out their fridge bodies
Go right ahead but degenerate sex addict chad will still pump and dump them and now they think they are on his level instead of being his disposable cocksleeve. Your insults will land like chad's cum off a slampig's back.

>>82073080
I just think we need to be more racist and rude so they'll know how it feels when we do it to them. Especially when you realize that it's mostly black women who are insecure about colorism are heightist the most m

>>82071766 (OP)
Why does it matter? Solving that isn't going to make them want short guys nor is it going to give short guys some edge in dating. It's like asking why life isn't fair, it just is. Their is no past and future, just the now you are living in and no amount of pontificating will solve or fix anything. Women want a guy taller than them. Some claim they want extreme height differences. Nothing can change that, move on or rot as the world pass you by.

>>82073080
>>82073374
You guys act like that doesn't happen all the time anyway. You sound like my shut in uncle that still thinks it's 1990.

I am 5ft11.75 and feel short, all my male friends are 6ft4+ and have 8" cocks, its insane. The statistics are skewed by old men and nonwhites

>>82073386
>You guys act like that doesn't happen all the time anyway
It doesn't. Atleast not as much as when men get bodyshamed and it's hypocritically celebrated.

>>82073396
White people are taller than non whites on average. What are you talking about?

>>82073409
Thats what Im saying, the national average is skewed. Im not competing with Indians, Pakistanis or Africans - Im competing with other Germanics

>>82073420
Germanics are still white lol what

>>82073402
I'd argue it happens about the same amount it's just both genders retardely think the other side is getting away with it more. Really the only major difference is girls will defend the unattractive girl by calling her "beautiful" while other men just add on the fire for the hurt men as both are mating strategies, the girl has no reason for the fatty bombatty to lose weight because that creates competition, the tall guy has every reason to make sure the short guy just gives up and leaves the market.

So in short everyone just fucks over uglies and whatnot to make sure they never get to be happy because it risks taking away from what they want.

>>82073080
It's starting to happen with that Bella Ramsey girl from the last of us. She's getting as much as bullied online as short and ugly men do. I think men are finally sick of hypocrisy and started fighting back.

>>82073459
She's also an aggressive, bitter, mean attention seeking cunt herself.

>>82073439
Mate youre thick as fucking shit, I am white competing with other whites - the statistical average is skewed by nonwhites - thus my being above average doesnt matter, as those I am competing with in reality dwarf me - what are you not comprehending? Thick bastard cunt, fuck you

>>82073444
Just type "short men" and "fat girl" on twitter and tiktok. There's way more hate posts towards short men than the other way around.

>>82071916
Outside of the early stages of homonids where height may have been an advantage to a degree of spotting potential threats on the savanah, or having a shorter stature in more extreme climates to uses less calories. Height would've had no natural selective role, and would've been a societal preference.

>>82073469
My bad dude. I read it wrong. I'm retarded.

>>82073487
Thats okay sorry for my harsh words. Im angry because Im a manlet (amongst white)

>>82073477
yeah and women are more active on both platforms by a 9 to ratio. It's a god damn miracle it's not even worse than that. It be like a girl going to a Gentleman's strip club and asking "why are all the performers women?" because the clients are majority one gender over the other.

This isn't even getting into the fact how much is bots and phishing shit that can really mess up what you are seeing.

>>82073477
>twitter and tiktok.

imo get off those, you are just eating propaganda that keeps you unhappy and dumb.

>>82073528
I'm just saying an example. How many times have you seen a woman bodyshamed irl and how many times have you seen a guy bodyshamed? I've only heard few frat boys fat shame chicks and even then it was only amongst themselves. Women don't give a shit and they'll say it in front of them because they face zero consequences for it. They'll say shit like "small dick", " Napoleon syndrome", "short guy energy." You're a tall guy and you're living life on easy mode compared to short men, so you don't catch that.

>>82073516
I can go on any male community and easily find posts from men talking about how much they love fat women and want to fuck one. Have you EVER seen posts from women in female communities talking about wanting to fuck manlets?

>>82073590
Better yet, have you ever seen a woman stick up for men that wasnt a grifter.

I said to a femanon it's a nonsensical preference and she wishes I'm single for the rest of my life

>>82073561
>How many times have you seen a woman bodyshamed irl and how many times have you seen a guy bodyshamed?
A lot, my friends shit on fat and ugly girls all the time. I have no context on women because baring my gf I have no clear view into their world but I wager it's about the same.

>They'll say shit like "small dick", " Napoleon syndrome", "short guy energy."

yeah and girls just have to be called fat, or bitch and they fall apart. I'm not convinced either side gets mercy, I just think both sides want excuses to feel righteous in their anger.

Plainly I think it's stupid, you are what you are and they are what they are and no amount of either side of seething at the other is going to fix anything. All it does is just make sure what >>82073444 said happens

>fucks over uglies and whatnot to make sure they never get to be happy because it risks taking away from what they want.

>>82073599
To be honest, I don't even want women to stick up for men. I want men sticking up for men. Like the chick that got fired in Japan for calling short guys subhuman. We only fire men for that, never the women.

>>82073590
I'm sure you could bring those links here couldn't you? In fact bring 10 if you would.

>>82073623
>I want men sticking up for men
Won't happen, looking over /r9k/ they sooner larp as women making fun of men and claiming they hate you rather than try and help their fellow brothers get out of their pit of pain. And those of us that do try get met with a lot of anger, to the level of "How dare you bring them any happiness!"

>>82073599
Obama said this exact point. In America, everyone focused on the women and alienated the young men. That's why the Dems lost the Gen Z male vote.

>>82073623
Its not just that but there's also zero women calling out the bad behaviours in other women. There are always guys doing it for other dudes, simps or not, but whenever they say "not all women are like that/it's a loud minority" you will never find anything pushing back against them, aside from grifters who dont even care lol. Even if more men fought against the gender war by keeping their friends in check, speaking out, etc., it doesnt matter since women dont keep eachother in check in the slightest.
>>82073647
A lot of pollsters said the same months in advance. They were genuinely surprised that there wasnt even an attempt to pander once.

i genuinely think there'll be violent outbursts against tall men in the future
its getting rough

>>82073747
>Its not just that but there's also zero women calling out the bad behaviours in other women.
You can't blame a snake for having it's fangs. It's their nature to say fucked up shit and spout their venom. Men are strong physically. Women are strong in saying shit hurts you inside. Men used to put them in place but there's no like regulation for them anymore. You can't hit them when they provocate. Like most DV cases, the guy didn't swing at the woman for no reason. She said fucked up shit and that's why he lost it. But it doesn't matter in the court of law. All they see is the what happened next. They don't care about how it happened. That's why my dad tunes out whatever dumb shit my mom says and she calls him abusive for giving her silent treatment. Women will always be women. Their nature is extremely primitive. Men just need to stop being simps.

>>82071766 (OP)
because men are biologically taller than women. why is this so hard for people to understand? if women are attracted to men, then they would obviously be attracted to a man who is taller than her.
>why does having a penis matter?

>>82073803
I get it but even then if women dont keep eachother in line like they used to (like the Salem witch trials that were mostly women accusing eachother, or slutshaming in general) then its all useless.

>>82071896
>but also ive found men get incredibly insecure about me being taller than them either naturally taller or taller with heels. i dated a 5'4 guy and hed seethe all the time about my height
Translation: but i've found that my innate disgust for short men makes them get incredibly insecure and so I prefer to pretend that the reason I don't date short men is because they are insecure, not that I'm a bitch

I'd literally date a 4'9" woman to a 7'0" woman. Height does not matter to me at all, unless she is very unhappy with my height. I mean why would I care otherwise? Men who are "insecure" about their short height are only so because women let them know how they hate them for something they can't change. Why can't women just admit it instead of doing this weird mind Olympics where they say "well ackshually it's not that I am obsessed with height in a man but it's their fault"

Seriously...

>i"t's because I feel safer with a tall man"
>"because he can protect me :)"
>chooses a skinny lanklet effeminate sissy boy that a moderately built 5'1 man could floor with a slap or punch to the gut
Seriously, woman are retarded

>>82071896
>im a little taller for a woman and wear heels all the time so id like someone whos at least slightly taller than me in most of my heels,
I heard this so many times and it is such a fucking misdirection lie. I fucking hate it.

>>82071766 (OP)
Height turns more heads and is correlated with higher earnings. It's also shallowly associated with masculinity. Generally women prefer guys near the median in terms of physicality (literally every single statistic confirms this, every one) what women really care about is where you lay in the social dominance hierarchy, as chad can look like any dude, but he's always gregarious, and well connected.

>>82071839
The taller guy has a reach advantage and longer arms, being taller is much more physically emposing than being muscular, the meat-eating stereotypes also don't help as a lot of muscular guys are slow and unathletic most guys who really kick ass are lean lanky and fast

>>82074153
This, it's about skill. A well trained woman could beat an untrained man that's heavier and more muscular than her.

>>82071950
The best fighters are those that are stocky and explosive. It's the most common build for UFC recruits, Champions, goats, and olympic wrestlers and boxers.
There is a reason why gervonta davis folded Ryan and it 100% has to do with the power generated from short stocky dudes. Size matters, and thick boned short guys can generate more power than lanklets and build more muscle way easier. It's simple physics that retards like you couldnt even understand in high school

>>82071977

I have a theory. Most women today actually have AGP. They are just lesbians who's sexuality is inverted. They get off on themselves being feminine. They are not directly attracted to men, they are attracted to men only in relation to how men make them "feel cute and small and feminine"
How many times have you heard woman say that?
Or how many times have you heard and read women say they wear lingerie to turn themselves on because it makes them feel sexy?
I told you. AGP. Just look at how much they look at themselves in the mirror, or how they take pictures of themselves at every opportunity

Now when you try to understand women's behaviour, it all makes sense. They get off on themselves

>>82074167
>it's about skill

Goes out the window in a street fight

>a well trained woman can beat a non trained man

Nope

>skill

Irrelevant most people don't train

>>82074184
Huh so it no is about capabilities damn

>>82073798
You c a anti beat us though so I think it's best to be a asshole in complete solitude and privacy.

>>82074196
In a street fight throw everything you learned in mma training out the window, it's about who's the most wild and physically inclined.

>>82074207
No entiendo. What is the winning combo of traits

>>82074167
>A well trained woman could beat an untrained man that's heavier and more muscular than her.

i've seen a lot of shit takes on /r9k/ but this one takes the cake

>>82074227
Idgi this is what mma dudes say all the time. That muscular guys can be beaten by smaller opponents if they do any kind of martial art. So surely this must apply to female mma fighters too.

>>82074216
Tall lean with wires strength and a long reach and broad high sitting shoulders with a small head.

>>82071896
>blablabla [...] i dated a 5'4 guy and hed seethe all the time about my height

No he didn't. I've never met a short man that didn't consider landing a taller woman as something to be proud of, like conquering a prize that's hard to get. Short men that complain about their woman's height are super rare, this is just a common BS excuse for you to shift the blame onto men for your preference. You wouldn't date short men because they viscerally disgust you, not because they'd supposedly complain about your height lmao.

>>82074250
Im taking this more seriously, was joshing around a bit before, but could you post an example. I have trouble connecting the broad high sitting shoulders with the rest of the build. I get shit like reach and small head.

>>82074153
You've never been in a fight in your life dipshit, reach doesn't mean shit and is easily countered by getting in close or grappling. In sports it matters even less as the best fighters are literally gigamanlets.

What matters is weight distribution and cardio . Even though mike tyson is a well trained massive wrecking ball he got winded and lost to a shitty amature youtuber.

>>82074264
Also mike tyson was 5'9
>Out of his 53 professional fights, 46 were against opponents taller than him

>>82074200
tallfags cant fight for shit and dont have the aggression required for a street fight

>>82074153
I'm 5'4 and i've literally beat men at 6ft. That extra reach is only good if they know how to use it to their advantage well, and my lower centre of gravity is only good if I know how to use it. Closing the gap gives me a huge advantage. In a street fight, all of that can quickly mean nothing when someone decides to grapple, and if that happens, short men tend to have the advantage. Taller doesn't always mean stronger or more capable. What it does mean is, if a man is tall, is that he possesses more potential in raw strength if he trains hard. He can have more muscle on his bone by a lot if he puts in a lot of work. However, Short men can reach their potential much easier, but it won't be as greater as a man who is taller unless the shorter man has a better frame

It really is a mixture of skill, strength, style and biomechanics. If a tall man achieves his full potential, at a certain point any skill and bio-mechanical advantages a short man might have goes out the window because raw strength and weight will just be too big a factor. But they really have to become a gym freak, it's a way of life when you are training like that. Your average guy on the street, height isn't as big of a factor as women think it is

Muscly guys are more robust and agile also. This idea that lack of muscle means they are faster is nonesense. The real advantage a skinny man has is stamina endurance. They've no weight to carry. But they are not going to be faster typically. It is strength and muscle that gives someone agility. Now, if a man has a lot of excess fat and is muscly, then he will be less agile but his strikes will still be faster

Things just are not as simple as you think they are

>>82072032
>let me fetishized you but its weird if you fetishized me

oh you're one of those, sorry to break it to you, but maybe you hate them because of projection

>>82072117
>im insecure when it comes to relationships cause i wanna be the shorter one
That kinda sucks. I guess your only option is to go for a 10%er and have a 7'5" son.
>men who fetishise tall partners want a mommy gf
How is this any different than women who fetishize taller guys? Serious question. You guys always say "THEY FETISHIZE ___ AND ___" but the second you see a dude 6' and over you lose your minds. Let's retire this dumbass term and realize people like what they like.

>>82074263
Higher shoulders affect your center of gravity, when your shoulders sit higher if you clench with someone you can either hook them from behind the neck grab an arm and lean down and make them hold your weight up or you can wrap your arms around their upper back go chest to chest then lift up, or scoop them off their feet or make them stand on their tippy toes to hold you, then you can throw them from that position if you so choose and youre long enough to knee them, a smaller head is easier to cover and harder to hit especially when you're moving

>>82074263
Not only have you never been in a fight but you're a complete moron, reach is not easy to counter for someone who knows what they're doing, you're not "getting on the inside" against a guy who's longer than you and even if he allows you to get up close he's got more leverage than you and can use his height to trip you and throw you around ans make you look like the goof you are then drive his long pointy elbows throw your fucking bloated face when you're on the ground. Face it when you go up against a tall guy and he has even the first clue to what he's doing you can't win. I'm a skilled fighter I'd dust you with ease.

>>82074307
Tall dudes are the most dominant and most aggressive dudes ever every weight division of fighting if there's a man's significantly taller than the rest he dominates.

>>82074416
No I mean like could you post an example of a build like that because I have a difficult time picturing it.
I assume the second part was for the person below me.

>>82071803
>Feel safe
Yes because being tall is known to make you bulletproof and knife resistant

>>82074416
>women says
>you've never been in a fight

lawl

I'm 6'2 but I probably wouldn't date you. Every time i bring up my height it seems almost fake the shift I see in women. It's offputting. Feels less like you're being assessed as a partner and more as a slave.
Yes rebecca, I am tall. No rebecca, that does not mean I will be your bodyguard, or your butler. dime a dozen pussy is not a wage I will accept for these things. I will not die for you if we're getting mugged; and if you think that's an ick, womp womp. I'll just find a woman that sees me as a human and not a tool. I guess the only good thing is that there's plenty in line lol

>>82073813
and if a man is attracted to a woman she should astleaat have double d breasts

>>82074416
>I'm a skilled fighter
And my Dad works for microsoft

>>82071858
its not fucking rocket science, its not like the person with the biggest dick is the tallest though id imagine its still someone like andre the giant though.

>>82074619
nah i bet the dude with biggest dick is one of those strongmen

>>82071950
>passive aggressive and make sly remarks
>fetishizes height and sees men shorter or unattractive as evil and the worst people to exist
>why are they upset about it?

I hope your sickness is terminal

>>82074470
the real answer is "it's a guy claiming to be a woman"

>>82074654
its like getting into one of those pacific rim super suits
>think of what i could do with this stature

>>82074680
my brain and most importantly style in the body of this dumb brute, the possibilities are endless.

>>82074680
>I see you as a mindless body to do what I want rather than a human
>but if you see me the same way its problematic
many in such cases

>>82071970
>which happens more often for tall men since building noticable muscle takes a longer time.
Good point. People don't talk about this much. But it's easier to build a built out physique if you aren't so tall. Lanklets struggle to build a physique because you need more mass and bulk to drape a longer bone to the same thickness.

>>82071766 (OP)
>Why does height matter so much to women?
higher the height difference, higher the sexual dimorphism. simple as

>>82074597
>men are attracted to large boobs
Yes, literally yes.

My go to answer to
>why do humans do/like X
Is to realize that evolution ( and therefore our preferences ) are slow, thus it's best to imagine what our life looked like 50 thousand years ago.
>Big man strong, big man protect better.
Our civilization outpaced our primitive instincts and that's why we're left with those desires

>>82071896
its 2025. women dont need men to be safe. a woman can kick any dudes ass, dont you watch movies?

>>82075130
but what about tall women with big tits and ass?

>>82072278
I don't like men over 6ft it's too tall for me. My boyfriend is 5'9
>>82074466
It's feeling safer in a proper getting your shit beat way. A 5'4 woman like me can't defend myself for shit from a 5'3 man since all men are stronger. Knives and guns are irrelevant.

>>82074416
> I'm a skilled fighter I'd dust you with ease.
You're obviously not a skilled fighter by the way you write about your fantasy of fighting an imagery opponent.
> use his height to trip you
LOOOOL seriously one of the biggest signs you're absolutely not a skilled fighter or even train in any type of fighting. People don't use height to trip out balance their opponents, but they use weight.
> throw you around
Again, you're definitely not a fighter and don't even know about the basics of torque.

Torque = Distance (at a pivot) x Force

Torque is a double edged sword where you want it to act on anything else, but you. Taller guys have more torque acting on them due to longer limb. This is the reason why you'll tire yourself out faster if you hold a handbag with your hand rather than with your elbow or shoulder.

Unless the tall guy has enough force to deal with the torque, no one is picking anyone up. Even shorter guys will struggle to throw out pick anyone even though they have an easier time counter the torque against them.
> drive his long pointy elbows throw your fucking bloated face when you're on the ground
You sound like the type of person to argue in the shower

TLDR: There's a reason why every single fighting sport is separated by weight but not by height.

Also, OP is a lying sack of shit trusts definitely not a fighter by how he talks about a fight.

>>82071766 (OP)
Evolutionary need for men with Physicality for protection, in conjunction with extreme social contagion of women and undiagnosed sociopathy from lack of fathers.

>>82076014
height does give you a huge advantage if you look at the evolution of fighting stances.
Before taller fighters started entering more and more stances were compact and low profile.
fighters focused more on infighting with occasional out outfighters with crazy athleticism thing Holyfield.
The typical stance has now evolved to a much taller stance focusing on reach and technical striking.
Even the higher the weight goes up the taller the fighters are.
I don't think taller fighters are gods doebeit since shorter athletic fighters still when several fights.
but fighting is not all about meta even though a meta exists so to speak but height and reach is a massive advantage and usually weight goes along with that as the two are somewhat proportional.
tldr: the guy you btfo'd is still kinda right even though he's a retard

This is going to sound gay but as a 5'5 male whenever I stand next to tall men I immediately understand why women would choose that over me

>>82071766 (OP)
Im a futa on male dude and a futa much taller than me just dominating me and tossing me around makes my bussy tremble so much, so I presume the same applies to women regarding guys relatively taller than them. I can still fap to womanlet futas raping tall guys though.

>>82076057
>Protection
Enough of this bullshit, women are turned on by a man ability to kill other people with ease and nothing more. A tall man has presumed danger to them due to their sheer physique, whicih is why women short circuit mentally when they see manlets who are actually very strong, according to their paleolithic brains such a thing shouldnt even exist.

>>82071766 (OP)
Would she want to be fucked by a dwarf who can't stand up for himself?

>>82074249
look up the differences between genders. The top performing women get smoked by mid level men in most sports. Google all the Olympic female soccer teams that all lost to 15- yo boys as a failed marketing stunt between 2013-2015. US, UK, etc, they all got crushed by boys who were still going through puberty and not even at their peak performance.

If a woman was a motor bike then a man is a Monster truck.

>>82076645
While not short I agree with you, worked in the NBA for a few years and holy shit that difference when around guys that are 2.1+ meters or taller it really unlocks a primal fight or flight and that's just a 0.3 difference, I could only imagine being a 160cm~ woman around that, Beauty and the Beast level shit.

female sexuality is still primitive and they want to be banged by the biggest dangerousest ape in the vicinity.

you can't say the same for male sexuality, because men invented civilization, monogamy, marriage, and laws telling men to adhere to it.

as soon as women had power they implemented no fault divorce and tried to remove all stigma for promiscuity.

>>82071766 (OP)
The Electra Complex

>>82076645
No thats just your instinctive analysis of a male being able to beat the fuck out of you, its not comparable to what women feel around tall men.

>>82076937
no fault divorce was for men that wanted to dump the hags and they also wanted promiscuity stigma removed as well. It was men that made the mess in hopes they get more out of it. Women still don't have power, not true hard power, just simps that play along. We didn't get in this mess because of women. We got in this mess because their are too many powerful guys that want pussy damn society. Hell look at the Epstein scandal, the whole thing is about guys that wanted to rape/abuse girls and getting caught and they want you to hate women, they want you to blame them, just like they want women to see your poor ass as part of the "patriarchy" because it keeps all of you weak, stupid, and powerless. They get to leech everything from you while you play stupid games like this.

>>82076991
I think women are more attracted to men who can beat the fuck out of other men yeah

>>82071766 (OP)
They are animals

>>82076912
Now imagine being a manlet and getting mogged like that everyday every where

>>82071949
>all you
I wish but I'm ten inches less and I am invicible to average woman around ny height, only girls who are shorter than me notice me
As a legit manlet, I can tell you, size matters

>>82073379
>just don't question anything about life bro
Retard

>>82071922
So women would rather date a short muscular guy over a tall lanklet?
The short muscular guy would be in a heavier weight class

>>82074181
I really think this is correct. It explains a lot.

>>82075675
I feel like the entire "defend me" argument is because chicks ether envision some weird larp about her man being peince charming for her or she just decides to do dumb shit like go to the unsafe part of town to get piss drunk and needs a guy who can stop her from getting mugged.

I don't see reasonable people needing a body guard for day to day shit

I simply will not date girls who have dated tall people because they are not good people. It is universally true.

>>82071766 (OP)
All cis women are AGP and feeling small and weak is very affirming to them.

>>82071896
>other men and shit.
Just stop living in crime-ridden shithole cities

>>82072855
>its not like im shoving it in their faces
Doesn't mean it's not there (or that they can't sense it)

I want me a tiny asian girlfriend

>>82071766 (OP)
cute!
im 6ft1 guy and would love to do this pic with a shorter girl

even better if she skinny like me and we can take thinspo pics together

but this isnt the middle ages we arent gonna get jumped by dwarfs and hobbits and have to fight them off w_w

i feel bad for short guys though i pray for u all everday

>>82073080
Nope, sorry sweetie but women get to make fun of you all they want but you can't make fun of them back or else you'll get canceled.

>>82078324
listen I get it's hard to keep a thread up but you got to do better than this shit of replaying to a post that's nearly 12 hours old and already talked out.

I won't be here to give you (You)s all the time anon, more so if this is the trash you bring.

tall moids are better than short moids because i can't see their faces or balding heads most of the time. also short men are very insecure about their height and try to compensate by becoming The Funny Guy aka a loud and annoying self-deprecating attention whore.

>>82071839
It's literally just "oogabooga tall monkey make feel safe"
Don't expect foids to apply any logic when their entire world is based on feelings. You can be a boxing jujitsu master and women will still think taller=safer and more dominant, kek.

>>82071766 (OP)

because they want to feel delicate and pretty

>>82071766 (OP)
Women want to be dominated, that's all there is to it

>>82074399
>boxer 5'7
short men learn to fight like mean motherfuckers at an early age because everyone tries to get a piece of them.
Tallboys usually aren't the best at fighting because they can usually get by on intimidation.
A trained tallboi is pretty hard to beat though as they got extra reach especially if you are boxing.
The boxer who taught me was about 5'4 flyweight, he was FAST and took a bronze at the olympics.
This is all moot though because foids don't view reality the same way men do. They just see "bigger monkey=stronger=safer"

i cant even blame foids for liking tallbois, they are aesthetic.

and i dont have to look at myself unless i look into the mirror.

ya gotta want what makes ya click

My takeaway from this thread as a manlet is I should actually just kill myself.

>>82079505
No. you need to just passport to a different area of the world where people are on average shorter or date women that are from a shorter culture.
Im a 5'7 canadian white guy and basically just accepted that I'll have to date cute Chinese/korean women. Latinas also tend to be shorter than average if you are in the USA.

>"i'll just date ethnic women as a short guy!"

what happens when a taller ethnic guy hits on your girl?

>>82079584
Then I'll deal with him. Just because I'm 5'7 doesn't mean I can't fight or can't be assertive. Some of you people here are waaayy too obsessive/blackpilled about this stuff.

>>82079564
Only country I'd care to travel to would be japan and at 170cm I'm about the same height as men there and all the other expats would obviously be taller, fucking over for me. Just gonna drink and cope until I work up the courage to put a bullet through my skull.

>>82079417
This, it has nothing to do with protection, it has to do with the ease at which he could rape the foid

>>82079655
That's average for much of the west too. You can instead focus on changing other things. Research fashion, get a good workout routine, look at investments (I made a killing in crypto for example). Stop focussing so much on height.

>>82071803
>if you're short just get jacked
not too jacked. Stay slim, getting super buff as a short guy makes you look shorter

>>82079733
false. do not listen to this fraud, as a manlet we must get as huge as possible.

>>82079728
You dont understand, women go out of their way to make manlets feel like shit all the time. A manlet cant even buy groceries without these stone age animals giving him looks of disgust for simply existing. Ive seen it so many time as a lankcel and experienced it when I was short as a middle schooler too.

>>82079728
Fuck off dude 170cm is not average in western countries, I'm in the 5th percentile here with 95% of men my age taller than me. Fashion is a cope and so is making money, just so you can be the safe choice after some ran through hole settles for you.

holy shit lot of uppity little short dudes in this thread.

Sit the fuck down, I mean don't, you're already short enough, you can stand ;)

>>82079757
NTA but making real money is NOT cope. fashion is pretty cool too if you can afford it

>>82079733
At the very least buff manlets are hard to beat in a fight assuming they lifted for strength and not just body building.

>>82079763
bish, i'll eat ya for breakfast, dont test me, little one. im a 5'9 165lb kang

>>82079763
You better be joking about that 6'5+ range, roasties go primal for NBA players

>>82079783
>>82079800
You can say that to my face after you find your step stool lmao

>>82079820
i wont need my stool, i'll just wait for a strong breeze to blow you down.

>>82079766
I make decent money, I work in the chemical industry with a msc. degree. Number on account goes up and it is completely meaningless. What am I going to do with it? Starting a family is never going to happen.

>>82079914
honestly LDAR dude, don't work hard and generate more taxes than necessary

>>82079914
you know the number going up is not meaningless.

>>82079927
Honestly yeah, true. Been thinking of switching into a less hours / part time situation.
>>82079941
Not going to use it for anything worthwhile. Not anything I care about. Only reason I went this route is cause of bullshit like 'get a good job to support a family' I've been fed growing up.

>>82079748
I'm 5'3 and that's not even true.

>>82079434
>short men learn to fight like mean motherfuckers at an early age because everyone tries to get a piece of them
That's my experience. I was really small when I was in school, and for the first few years they other kids would pick on me. I didn't get any respect at all, and so I really wanted that, I wanted respect so I strived to be the fastest and strongest. Which worked. I became that, and then all the other guys liked me and wouldn't mess with me. I'm not sure if I really was the fastest or strongest or if I just tried multiple times harder. I remember amazing my P.E. teacher in first year which is the year you change schools when you are age 12 in UK. He couldn't get over how I was the top 3 fastest in the class, and how I could beat all of the second years and most of the third years in the school at triple jump despite how tiny I was. I was the smallest in the school lol. I grew out of that tryhard phase by the time I was in my mid teens but my father always made me do hard physical labour with him since I don't remember. I was hauling heavy logs up field hills full of cow tracks and rushes, splitting sticks all day, building brick walls ect since I don't remember so i've stayed relatively strong for my size

I worked out and trained in boxing for a couple of years and I got really really strong when I was 18-20 but then I got depressed and stopped. I should probably start training again. It feels good to be fit

Yeah a lot of women suck. They same women who will disrespect a man for being short are not even worth stressing over. I don't really care. Being short is a blessing in a way because you are going to be protected from a lot of those kinds of women. Any woman you do get will tend to be of higher quality. Call it sour grapes or cope but I actually believe this. If I were tall I can't imagine wanting a vapid bitch and trusting them

>>82079958
LARPing poorfag detected

>>82079763
>tfw i'm literally not even on the chart

>>82077821
I hope whoever you care about most dies a slow painful death

>>82079983
Sure, whatever makes you feel better. Money isn't going to get me what I want. I will kill myself soon anyway. Only reason I can think of worth staying alive is seeing Islam take over this shit hole continent and women finally getting what they deserve.

>>82080010
LARPING poorfag confirmed

>>82080017
Have a (You) on the house while I'm still awake.

>>82080038
>(You) zomg

>>82079941
contributing to society is meaningless if you are sub 8

>>82079748
>>82079968
I'm 5'4" and i've seen this happen to other short guys but it never happened to me, or at least not that I was aware of. Often i've been caught checking out women who are taller than me and they smiled at me and seemed really pleased and happy about it, but I was too shy and awkward to know what to do so nothing happened but that's beside the point

>copelarping brokefag keeps needing (You)s

>>82074167
My brother is very skinny and I'm trained in mma and I can't even beat him in an armwrestle.

>>82079757
yeesh if you have that attitude you will never get ahead in life. Go to the gym and start lifting and your attitude will at least get better. If you spend all day drinking mountain dew and eating Cheetos while smoking weed and gaming of course your life is going to suck. Then find something to get good at. I have a friend who is about 5'2 and he's gigajacked and got a cute ethnic GF that's a few inches taller than him ffs.

>>82079385
it really do be like that huh?

Height meme is not fun, because is real

>>82080540
Winning fights is more about brute strength than techniques in reality. Train all you want, a chimp will beat your ass without trying.

>>82079763
i thought 5'9" was king of manlets...
i thought i was special.....

>>82079385
>>82071839
>>82080986
why do people get so triggered about this? attraction isn't based on logic. there's no logical reason why guys think big tits and asses are more attractive either, or why certain faces are more attractive than others. it's all just evolutionary programming.

>>82080986
The reason I hear often is "tall dudes rarely have to fight, they just have an intimidating aura dude :O", though this is a lie. Ask any tallfag here and they get challenged often for existing.
>>82079748
The workplace is even worse.

>>82081218
People get triggered because they still have to work and live a damned life while everyone pretends the world is fair.
If you want to talk about ape logic, a seething frothing hatred for unfairness is deeply coded into the brain of every human.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg

>>82071943
abortion rates say otherwise

mostly it's unconsciously that women want taller partnes and that's all because they want their children to be taller because being tall gives you a better chance of passing on your genes. it's only natural that someone would prefer better genes to their children.

>>82071766 (OP)
They can reach the cookie jar.

>>82081103
That is the point I was making.

>>82071803
Does it really? Does it really make girls feel safe and protected? Because that makes me laugh. I mean, I'm 5'9 tall, and back in 2010 when I turned 21, I got into a fight with some piece of shit asshole outside of a club, and him and his girlfriend were Rising me for no reason and I mopped the fucking floor with that mother fucker! Tell me, how do you think that girl felt after seeing me do that? It's also worth mentioning that that guy didn't land a single blow.

>>82081787
This doesn't explain why though :/
It's easy to say "That's just how it is" it's hard to explain the why.
>>82082225
This. But It's more of a statistical thing for foids, since they are ironically very statistically minded.
Though it would be unfair to say they're looking for the safest option, since it seems the majority of them simp for serial killer types. I honestly can't fathom what they prefer. They're all fucking weirdos lol

>>82071766 (OP)
Height is like the petty beards. "ill fuck you but not yet."

you can only fuck yourself!!!

>>82071896
Height is bullshit, just like beards.

>>82080817
>I have a friend
Yeah, sure buddy, sure you do. You are probably just some government shill trying to counter signal people dropping out of society to keep the lights on.

Every female "standard" purely revolves around whether a guy can be their pseudo-incestuous father figure that "play"-rapes them along with all the other autopedophilic cancer ingrained into womanhood.

They go out of their way to ""love""" people who have power over them. They perpetuate the gender roles. And no one calls it out.

They ACTIVELY avoid intimacies where they are put on an equal level with the man and no one calls it out.

Women enable a subtle unconscious pedophilic and incestuous dynamic ie father/daughter archetypes and obsesses over it. And no one calls it out.

>>82071839
I think it's more about social safety. Everyone would laugh of a tall girl with a short BF, she looks like a mom. She looks so dominant, that it makes other men perceive her as "free". So they would probably approach her, especially if they are stronger than her man.

>>82079747
>we must get as huge as possible
Doesn't work man. You give women the ick at any size

>>82071768
Why does width matter so much to men?

>>82072079
"ideal height" is the same as everything else about men: you need to be taller/better than average
it doesn't matter how tall you are, women aren't capable to see the big picture, you just need to be taller than other men around her
that's why manlets are successful in asia and other third world countries: they are taller than local average and that's enough for women