Thread 82076326

Anonymity probably shouldn't exist. It just gives people a way to act out and hide from the repercussions and breeds anti-social/narcissistic/psychopathic tendencies.

Pretty accurate anon

>>82076326 (OP)
that assumes the frame of reference (society at large) is perfect. anonymity doesn't give or breed anything, it offers a way of living outside of the established norm, whichever that norm may be.

>>82076326 (OP)
Post your ID right now anon

>>82076326 (OP)
I would agree. But I spent too much time in AI websites roleplaying and I wish to be anonymous in that. I'm in Britain and it's annoying having to use VPN every single time.

>>82076446
It does not assume perfection at all.
Anonymity does give something, or else it wouldn't be used. You don't do things which do not benefit you in some way. AKA, you're gaining something.
And it does breed something, namely, a specific type of behavior that is nearly exclusive to anonymity. Which is the same type of behavior you can observe is psychopaths.

You're just being delusional and coping.

There is nothing wrong with saying the word nigger.

>>82076621
give me your real name, address, social security number, job status, all social media accounts you own, all your passwords, where you hide all your valuables, the keys to your house, and which hole does your mom like getting fucked the most in then if you're so anti anonymity faggot

>>82077311
Lmao. you're a silly little anon aren't you?

>>82076326 (OP)
anonymity gives people the opportunity to express things they otherwise would've kept to themselves for the rest of their lives
it can result in mean things but i think that a lot of robots really do need it
normalfags don't want to hear about your shit, they'll crucify you, exile you, anonymity is the only way for people like us to be ourselves sometimes

>>82076326 (OP)
I can only be myself when I'm alone. Online anonymity gives me the opportunity to be myself among others.

>>82076326 (OP)
I agree
It should be easier to find people and hurt them in real life for innocuous things they say online

>>82076621
>does not assume perfection at all.
It does because you believe society always choose the morally just option but that is often not the case.

>>82076326 (OP)
The trick is that anonymity is an illusion. It doesn't breed those people, it only emulates a habitat where they can bring themselves into the light.
Humans in general can be like this, the derren brown remote control experiment showcased humanities ability to be shitty when in a faceless mob.
Having them be known 24/7 will only make them better at hiding.

>>82078220
That's not what I believe, not even remotely close. It's just some weird projection on your behalf.
>>82078342
>It doesn't breed those people
It breeds behavior, not people. Just look at this anon right here >>82077934
>anonymity gives people the opportunity to express things they otherwise would've kept to themselves

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Anonymity creates a space where all sorts of bad behaviors are multiplied. Where all the sociopaths, psychopaths, narcissists and vitriolic abusers can be totally free to do their bidding. Because if they were in society where they weren't anonymous, they'd be shunned by everyone for being a bad actor.
Nearly every anon poster knows this to be true too. "If I did this in real life, everyone would shun me, so I hide behind anonymity so I can be a shitlord and avoid all repercussions."
Or, straight from the anon's mouth:
>normalfags don't want to hear about your shit, they'll crucify you, exile you, anonymity is the only way for people like us to be ourselves sometimes
It's the same fuckin' thing.

If you had any balls at all you'd say the things you say behind the fake illusion of anonymity in real life.

But that's just it.

You don't have balls.

You're a terrified little kid.

>>82076326 (OP)
This is completely deranged and disconnected from reality. Social media like TikTok, Facebook and Instagram are far more popular than any anonymous online communities, and they breed truly insane, maladaptive, narcissistic and evil behaviours.

>>82076326 (OP)
Nah, it lets you see how niggery many people are and now you know despite some guppy being all smiles and niceties they could just be waiting to shiv you. You learn this quick on the internet for little cost, while in person it can cost you greatly

>>82078466
All of those websites and/or apps are effectively anonymous. You can opt into being identified, but it's not mandatory by any means. Especially on shit like tiktok.

>>82078509
>All of those websites and/or apps are effectively anonymous.
Nothing says "anonymous" like having your face and place of residence in a video going out to millions of people. Seems to me like your problem is with social media and instant communication, not "anonymity".

>>82078522
You don't need to post your face or your place of residence. It's completely up to you. You can be completely anonymous all all of those.

>>82078410
you consider anything society does not approve of bad, sociopath, psychopathic, narcissistic, etc
i don't agree
sometimes the world shuns you for things that don't harm anyone, morals change, societies change
the things that you think should not be allowed to be said now will not be the same in 20 years, 50 years, or 100 years
if it's not objective, why does it matter? if i want to say, make a post talking about something embarrassing about myself, why is that bad exactly? who am i hurting?

>>82078532
Okay, but.

It's not the faceless TikTokers who are popular and breeding delusions of grandeur.

Do not be disingenuous with me.

>>82078639
>you consider anything society does not approve of bad
No, I do not. You're just putting words in my mouth.
I didn't say everything posted anonymously is bad.
I said anonymity is a breeding ground for a specific type of anti-social behavior.
Then you strawmanned that into an argument that you can easily dismantle, which is "you think society is right about everything".
Stop strawmanning.
>>82078675
Delusions of grandeur was never a talking point of mine, stop moving the goalpost. There's plenty of nameless, faceless tiktokers pushing specific types of anti-social perspectives though.
Just because there are tiktokers who exist that are not anonymous, does not refute the point I'm making. And you damn well know that. You're the one who needs to quit being disingenuous.

>>82079021
>Narcissistic
You are being disingenuous and moving the goalposts.

>Posting pictures of your face is actually anonymous if you think about it!
Sorry, this is retarded. I am disengaging. You are attributing the wages of social media (an inherently non-anonymous entity!) to anonymity, which is so specious that I really cannot imagine having the subdued mental capacity required to do such a thing. Go forth, and speak no more. Reflect before spraying your filth upon my precious mind, for it damages me more than it damages you, and that is a wicked thing to do.

>>82076326 (OP)
this but the exact opposite. identity is poison to the mind

>>82079078
You think because you name off one specific trait to one of the 4 disorders I mentioned, that's somehow moving the goalpost?
Not to mention, delusions of grandeur is not even required for a narcissistic person.
>Posting pictures of your face is actually anonymous if you think about it!
>I'll continue to strawman your position because I lack the cognitive ability to handle the actual thing you're saying
Okay.

>>82076326 (OP)
anonymity simply lets people be their real selves
sure, repercussions hold them back, but it doesn't turn them into different people
anonymity simply removes that mask

>>82079239
That's where you're wrong. Anonymity DOES change people.

alright to be fair we live in society where every single person is basically forced to use internet & interact with social media from childhood...

>>82078410
>That's not what I believe, not even remotely close. It's just some weird projection on your behalf.
But that's what you're implying with your post, retard. You think anonymity is bad because it leaves you free from social repercussions. Which means you think society always makes good choices in who they choose to punish. Like use your fucking brain dude

>>82078410
>so I can be a shitlord and avoid all repercussions.
I guess I could just bottle everything up until I explode irl. Would that be better?

>>82079587
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>>82079575
>But that's what you're implying with your post, retard.
No.
>You think anonymity is bad because it leaves you free from social repercussions.
Partially true.
>Which means you think society always makes good choices in who they choose to punish.
No.

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>>82079587
Do you think that's what people did before anonymity existed? There are better ways of doing it. Sitting on 4chan all day screeching about muh society doesn't actually help you at all.
In fact, it makes all your problems worse.

>>82079719
>Do you think that's what people did before anonymity existed?
Yeah pretty much. We live in one of the most peaceful times in all of human history. People in the past were much more angry and violent.
>There are better ways of doing it
Like what?

>>82079719
>No.
That's literally what you're saying by believing people should obey what's socially acceptable and if you don't, you should be punished.

>>82079787
>Yeah pretty much.
Well, it isn't. People had social circles in the past where they could vent in a healthy way, or they actually enacted change.
>Like what?
Creative endeavors, arts, music, social interaction, just to name a few.
>>82079829
>That's literally what you're saying
No. You have very bad reading comprehension.

>>82079021
i think anonymity is just polarizing, you have plenty of bad stuff but also anons have been very nice to me, nicer than any non anonymous person has been (because that wouldnt be normie approved)

>>82078410
You misunderstand his post. People NEED to be able to express things, however bad or vile.
Other people are free to discard those things as well. Just because frank says "fuck the gypsies" doesn't mean that people will say "you know what, he's right. if he never said that I would have fucking loved those guys but avast his words have dug into my brain and I can't extract them! Poor gypsies, I will genocide you with great reluctance!"

>>82076326 (OP)
yeah no, fuck that. having a lack of anonymity in these times can get you fucked up real quick. not to mention with how relentlessly powerhungry and controlling western govs have become, I don't trust them to not deliberately mishandle or use my info against me

>>82076326 (OP)
Hard truth but yeah I think you're right. This also branches onto platforms like Twitter.

I think it should. Because of the anonymity, I found out how men truly feel about us and why I avoid men unless absolutely have to.

Anon is the kindest stranger I've ever met. Anonymous represents a purity of sorts. Released from the curated persona projected irl a certain kind of freedom is found, and people revert to their more basic instincts, that of respect and compassion. It's a dramatic turn from how real life goes. I wish we could have a, forced anonymity by default and only certain especially close people, such as family or lover be given permissions from user to distinguish them from anon.

yeah because anonymity was never important in establishing resistance to tyranny before
get rid of it now! Digital IDs for whitey!

on 4chan, you can post the truth without fear of governments blackmailed by human trafficker pedophiles like Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell knowing who you are. so you are at absolutely zero risk if posting oppositional propaganda against the pedophile illegitimate establishment.

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>>82078454
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>>82076326 (OP)
>Anonymity probably shouldn't exist.
Wild claim.
>It just gives people a way to act out and hide from the repercussions and breeds anti-social/narcissistic/psychopathic tendencies.
No, it doesn't just do that. It doesn't even do that.

Having social reprocussions to your thoughts breeds anti-social/narcissistic/psychopathic tendencies, actually. Look at anybody's facebook ever. It's extremely narcissistic by its nature. There's usually a political stance and tribe they picked and virtue signal it, so they're going to be anti-social or encourage other people to be it and end up on places like here on 4chan or retracted entirely from society. And the chase for likes and updoots and "friends" is very psychopathic or at the very least sociopathic. Attention is monitized. Reach is monitized. Personal data is monitized. Everything anybody does when there's no anonymity is for power, money, and reputation. Everything is done to protect yourself from exposing too much of yourself. You're essentially advocating here for a society that enforces a form of social nudity and saying that clothes are narcissistic and make it "too easy" to hide yourself.

Democracy is built on privacy and anonymity. People are allowed to think their own things and privately talk with whoever they want about anything. You like democracy, don't you?

>>82080570
No, YOU misunderstand me. I did not say people should not or cannot express things which society disagrees with.
Screaming nigger into the void is useless though. You aren't doing anything other than being edgy for the sake of being le hekkin edge boi.
What good does it do for you, or anyone else? None.

The fact of the matter is, if you had anything of value to say, you could say it in society, even if it was vile. People still do and always have. You aren't challenging the status quo. You're sitting in your bedroom screeching nigger, which, I'll have you know, is the status quo.
That's the real thing.

So, I'll ask you a question:
What is it that you absolutely MUST express through the medium of anonymity?

>>82077897
Yeah that's right faggot, you value anonymity just fine when it concerns you.

oh no not my heckin anonymity
the thing i'm sure i don't have anyway

>>82081240
>Just make all your info public to the narcissistic abusers!!!!!
Only a retard would do this. If this were the real world, I've have no problem with it. But this is a cesspool of literal narcissists and sociopaths who are full of vitriol and spite and would do anything to hurt someone, espcially if they knew it would have no consequences. (which is why they hide behind anonymity.)

Don't be stupid.