Why do some people feel like porn is so bad that it needs to be banned? I think its one of the least harmful commonly used vices available to us. If you overdo it and jack off 8 times a day of course it will start to be a problem, but even at my worst excessive porn use only made me lethargic and unmotivated.

>>82091415 (OP)
Most people don't think porn needs to be banned entirely, just that kids shouldn't be exposed to it since it may harm their view or the world during critical years

>>82091431
And they call you mecha Hitler for this thinking this way. Why is it so hard to have better restrictions on this shit so ONLY adults can view it

>>82091415 (OP)
because incels blame their failures on external forces like "if we didnt have porn then I'd be a giga Chad with a wife and kids!!!" when they were always going to be incels.

>>82091442
Because the restrictions that already exist don't allow the government to dox your vice habits to ruin your public life while your identity is stolen by hackers.
IF ANYTHING, and I'm not saying this lightly because i don't actually want increased restrictions, there should be
>device on for first time
>age verification
>device acts as age id online but does not send personal information to any site for storage.
But we already know that you fags don't actually want a solution that is amicable, you want to be able to publicly shame anyone for private habits.
I'm going several steps beyond "putting your drivers license on a porn site is bad" because there ARE healthy levels of sexuality for anyone thats middle school aged and up. Thats why there were pg13 comedies about taking road trips to get laid, and every schoolkid knew about every 80's horror flick that showed bare boobs.
Sexlessness in society is equally as bad as the excesses of the Alphabet people psy-op movement.

>>82091442
>Why is it so hard to have better restrictions on this shit so ONLY adults can view it
Because it will be used by the government to censor the internet to their benefit and track adults with digital ID and face scans and deter open discussion online. I understand your concern but every responsibility (like parenting) you outsource to the government, they will just use it against you.

>>82091466
Yeah I noticed incel types are some of the biggest tradcuck larpers. Basically pussy communist upset that they can't succeed in the dating free market.

>>82091415 (OP)
Because society is experiencing an epidemic of sexual hysteria.

Actual abuses in the porn industry are a different issue.

As far as I'm concerned, only you yourself have the right to decide what's good or bad for you.

>>82092068
I believe brainwashing people into demonizing their connection to sexuality is a form of sexual violation. This doesn't apply to cases where it's actively unhealthy, but hysteria, shaming and repression tactics are a very selfish and shortsighted reaction and only makes things worse in such situations. The goal is to restore a healthy balance with your sexuality.

>>82091415 (OP)
Men are not supposed to be porn addicted or sex driven 24/7, it's not natural. Women are, that's why they are addicted to it and they're in this constant relational arousal and cyclical libido peaks, looking for someone to destroy them and keep them on the loop. But we are made for greater things, and the sex act for us shouldn't last more than 5-15 minutes a day. Porn is bad because it crowds out long-form goal pursuit, and rewards you for having done nothing, it takes away your precious time you should be using for constructing yourself, studying, joining political causes and trying to change the world. Porn, women and social pressure keeps you bottled inside and a little twink bitch.

>>82091415 (OP)
Kids shouldn't be watching it obviously, but seems like there's no way around it other than digitally carding and fingerprinting everybody.

Porn isn't the issue, the problem is people can go online and find false information or just say stuff without any accountability. By making the internet require you log in with your government issued ID and cleaning up everything dangerous we're left with a good number of safe websites, and the world is better. Instead of the wild west meets hell meets the holocaust, imagine a better internet that was more similar to cable TV packages with different subscription tiers.
You have the basic package; Facebook, YouTube, Amazon, and Wikipedia.
Then you can add on additional packages to get broader access. Streamer package; Netflix, crunchyroll, Hulu, prime video, Spotify, audible. The educated package; msnbc, reddit, bbc, CNN. Sports package is obviously the ESPN suite with ppv games. Gamer package, steam, Xbox live, Playstation network.
Far tidier, easier to use, and less potentially harmful to society.

>>82091466
>>82091515
>because incels blame their failures on external forces
>Yeah I noticed incel types are some of the biggest tradcuck larpers
Femanon/feminist detected. You are part of many reasons why we need to bring back patriarchy, not because we want to enslave you and cause you to suffer, but rather to protect you from yourselves, and to prevent you from causing further destruction to this world and the people who live in it. Women can no longer hide their true intentions because the evidence of their atrocious behaviors are everywhere, and no amount of their excuses will ever change the truth. You femanons either learn to coexist peacefully with the rest of us men, or rot to death.

>>82092404
>Porn isn't the issue, the problem is people can go online and find false information or just say stuff without any accountability
How's the weather in Tel Aviv, yid?

>>82091415 (OP)
>only made me lethargic and unmotivated.
That's a problem, goy. We need you motivated and productive and ready to die for Israel. No we won't make society return to pre-Covid times but we will aggravate you enough to where you are ready to kill

>>82092068
>>82092140
>Men are not supposed to be porn addicted or sex driven 24/7, it's not natural
Men are supposed to be porn addicted and sex driven, it is natural. They're supposed to have interests beyond just having sex, but in this economy, much of the work has been outsourced and many people have been priced out of every hobby except waging as a hobby.

>>82091415 (OP)
It corrupts the mind and lowers your quality as a human.

You can see it here, threads related with porn or made by porn addicts like anything lgbt related, racebait and so on are consistently garbage.

>>82092558
You antisemitic piece of trash. You see what we did to Gaza. No one who matters cared. We got more billions of your tax money and a great number of your diaper head brothers and hefty hefty hefty niqab sisters got deported for protesting.
Keep playing smug. Just know when we go after antisemites in Europe and America the same way, the world will continue to not give a shit.
Did you not read? You know what is going to happen to amalek(you). Make jokes while you can. You may find it harder to run your clown routine after our snipers intentionally target nonlethal parts of your body.

>>82091415 (OP)
I think Pride is trying to sexualize kids

>>82092068
Yeah I think part of it is people trying to bring some order back in all this chaos, but porn is a bad target to focus on. SK banned porn and they still have birthrate issues and a division between men and women. I'm not an anti feminist, but the hard reality is that banning porn won't work without dialing back feminism as well.


>>82093220
>It corrupts the mind and lowers your quality as a human.
Its really not that serious. The thing about humans is that we also just like to have fun and enjoy ourselves for the sake of it. We aren't robots who exist to make numbers go up constantly for the sake of productivity. We drink, we party, we have fun, we fuck, etc. The problem is when you overindulge to the point of ruin, which can be avoided with moderation.

>>82092404
>Porn isn't the issue, the problem is people can go online and find false information or just say stuff without any accountability. By making the internet require you log in with your government issued ID and cleaning up everything dangerous we're left with a good number of safe websites, and the world is better. Instead of the wild west meets hell meets the holocaust, imagine a better internet that was more similar to cable TV packages with different subscription tiers.

You are retarded. This will only drive the internet underground, with more depraved content, toward niche sites that currently most people avoid. More P2P networks. Stronger encryption. Children sharing nudes with middle-aged men in Eastern Europe to access hentai porn. Criminals creating sites to steal boomers personal data. Making it easier for hackers to find high-value targets, such as military or money guys.

>You have the basic package; Facebook, YouTube, Amazon, and Wikipedia.

Bro, between AI and censorship the only thing left in the future internet will be criminals, pedophiles, gooners and children.

>>82091514
>guys I think porn is actually good but if anyone found out I watched porn my life would be ruined

>>82094423
What's the worse that could happen?
>>>/adv/33464173

>>82091415 (OP)
As much as the slow Orwellian shutdown of the internet concerns me, (((porn))) is indeed harmful.
Shit, have you seen the effect it has had on incels and coomers around here, let alone elsewhere? A bunch of them trooned out, or otherwise became degenerate fags. In some ways, cutting off some porn may actually force the mainstream to see the incel problem for what it really is; women no longer fucking their looks-matches (being unashamedly Chad-only), and leaving a giant amount of men behind as incels with nothing to live for.
Either that, or rape becomes a bigger problem for foids, so the mainstream will have to address it no matter what. Inceldom is wrecking society, though the globalists who are deliberately running it into the ground are also a giant problem.

>>82091415 (OP)
Since when cant we dont just use our imagination?
Totally pathetic, porn is disgusting.
Get roped.

>>82091415 (OP)
Kids getting access to hornyslop easily is a problem.
No, I don't think the solution being pushed is it. There are now too many tools to abuse to get around these checks and balances. ID? Little timmy risks rummaging through daddy's stuff until he gets the card. AI is at the point it can trick these systems. It's a complete joke.
The reality is you'll be forking over your information for a system that doesn't work as well as it should, and to companies that want your data and probably have less cybersecurity than the DMV (which has gotten hacked in recent years).
The government is only adept at punishing, not catching and preventing, or even hiding their own dirt. They're retards.

>>82091415 (OP)
What's the sauce on this shit-

>>82094482
He got fired because he was watching porn at work tho

>>82094423
>watching porn is actually good
Yes depending
>but if people found out it would ruin my life
Because other people are retarded on the subject. And it wouldn't ruin it instantly but we are definitely on the path where society will first ID everyone who watches porn and later send everybody on that list to prison.

>>82094499
>banning porn will cause an increase in rape
Jesus dude how can you call porn a bad thing then.

>>82094506
I can easily use my imagination, I just like hentai and h-games.

>>82094877
Because porn has caused a lot of damage. But so has inceldom, which needs to be addressed.
Ideally, almost all men can get access to sex, and therefore don't even need porn. Though a bunch of that will rely on prostitution being legalised, which normies and foids (in burgerland anyway) are certainly against.

>>82094917
It won't be hot or willing girls prostituting themselves. Especially when america is 70% fat.

>>82094917
A society that bans porn is not looking to legalize prostitution.

>>82091442
That's the ass-forward way to think about it; the restrictions need to be on the kids, not the content. Parents need to keep kids off the conventional internet.

>>82091466
nobody has ever said or thought that

Porn is a substance, people like to use it because it sate and sadate them, given that most people dont fullfill their needs. Others that do still use it to some degree because its a nice alternative/tops them of.
Like with every kind of addctive substance it can be overused, it can lead to addction, it can destroy a person, at least in some degree.
Im against baning anything and gov policing what you should and shouldnt do. If you dont do any real damage, mental of physicial to other people/beings than it should be up to you what are you doing with your time, body and spirit. Theres also part about protecting kids from it, but its just a sham for me. World is filthly place, kids will look for it and other not-approved content anyway. Why should we protect them from pornography when they can see videos of people mauling eachother on daily basis?
In asceded realm there would be much less consumption of porn, because its very low hanging fruit. People use it because its easy, provide them with release/dopamine that they so strive to get while it can be done in a short amount of time. Its literal working man addiction and most current neets lifestyle.
Everyone should at least reflect upo nthis issue, because were living in times when almost everyone (at least on basket weaving forum) is touched by it. Just compare it to alcohol/other drugs and ask yourself, how much time per week you consuneme? Do you use it on daily basis? Do you goon?
Im probabpy addicted myself, but I just dont have time/energy to chase that dragon fortunetly.

>>82096041
>it sate and sadate
Why even bother typing past that point? I sure as hell won't bother reading.

The real reason is that the elites are pissed that the peasants arent making enough replacement slaves. So instead of raising wages, or controlling predatory housing practices. They've decided to try everything else. Banning porn so people have less of an outlet for sexual desires. Banning abortion. Giving tax incentives to parents to the tune of some measly $1,000 tax credit per child.

But none of that shit changes the fact that children are expensive. If you are some incel working a dead end job none of this will fix your underlying issues.

But they think it will because its cheaper.

>>82096438
it's not just that kids are expensive, it's that having kids is largely unfeasible when it takes both individuals in the couple to work retarded hours just to scrape by even without any kids

>>82091431
Maybe parents should use parental controls then. Oh that's too fucking hard? Then don't bug me about it.

>>82092140
Porn addiction doesn't exist, it's just a moralfag buzzword.

That's easy, it's censorship. It's really easy to laugh at people who say that their inability to access japanese tentacle hentai is a serious threat to freedom of speech even though it definitely is.
From there you can just get worse. No one says specifically who it is defining what porn is, so art, media, music, all of it can be called porn and censored in the name of protecting the children and preventing degeneracy.

republicans like it because their mostly christianfags who want everyone to be virgin, and democrats like it because their feminist SJW cucks who think that "protecting women" means taking away their rights to producing pornographic material.

>>82091415 (OP)
>Why do some people feel like porn is so bad that it needs to be banned?
The modern narrative about porn ban is based on socioeconomic issues. People do not multiply, population starts to collapse and migrants not a solution anymore, since they don't multiply either. Check for example Musk's posts, every 1 of 10 would be about population. Plus WWIII is possible and every country wants more soldiers.

>>82094423
No, it's because it's going to be handed to people that are capable of taking active measures to weaponize it against you in a society that makes it an effective strategic weapon to exploit.

>>82091415 (OP)
I'd argue that nearly everything bad about porn is what normies do irl but worse because of STDs, abortions, infidelity etc but try reasonable conversation with normies about the hypocrisy and they show themselves as the demonic hedonists that they are and truly never gave a shit about society just MFS who want cogs in the machine betabuxx must continue to sacrifice themselves or else the system stalls and importing sub 5 third worlders becomes their only option. They're worse than the baby boomers because they show that you don't even need money to be a self centered cunt to sell out the nation for carnal pleasures.

>>82091415 (OP)
>should I supervise my children or let them play outside?
>nah let's just censor everything
most parents are lazy as fuck