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Anonymous No.82094183 [Report] >>82094201 >>82094209 >>82094824 >>82095408 >>82095654 >>82096189 >>82096269 >>82097439 >>82098291
Have you accepted Christ, Robot ?
Anonymous No.82094189 [Report] >>82097588 >>82097730
>INRI
was that his Myers-Briggs type?
Anonymous No.82094201 [Report] >>82094234
>>82094183 (OP)
No because God does not exist. And as much as I know Christianity would soothe me, I know it would only do so insofar as heroin would soothe me. It would be nice to be told I'm "good" because I'm meek, because I have nothing, because it costs me nothing to turn away from the desires that I cannot satisfy anyways, but deep down I would know that I'm lying to myself. For these reasons I also can't accept Buddhism which is more or less the same thing as Christianity.
Anonymous No.82094203 [Report]
I want to, but at the same time I've been too forgiving in the past to abusive people who continue to be abusive so I think embracing a religion of forgiveness is bad for me right now
Anonymous No.82094206 [Report]
and then the LORD said
>ok now give him cancer or something
Anonymous No.82094209 [Report]
>>82094183 (OP)
FUCK KIKES> FUCK JESUS FUCK ALL SANDNIGGER ABRAHAMIC FILTH RELIGIONS
Anonymous No.82094234 [Report] >>82094269
>>82094201
What has you convinced that life on Earth is completely random? That there is no creator and that life just happens to exist?
Anonymous No.82094239 [Report]
>Jewish fairy tales bad

>Jewish fairy tales + addendum of a doomsday prophet rabbi who may or may not have had magic powers good

The Torah is still the Torah. It still commands you to mutilate your genitals and offer sacrifices of live lambs to the stars. Bronze age hooey.
Anonymous No.82094269 [Report] >>82094316
>>82094234
That the alternative explanations aren't true. Science is more consistent with reality than religion in every other domain, like in explaining the earths place in the solar system and it's true age, so religion probably doesn't have a true explanation for those deeper questions either. Science might not have an answer either, but it would at least be better suited than religion which is obviously just wrong.
Anonymous No.82094316 [Report] >>82094417 >>82094658
>>82094269
Why are you acting like science and the church are in conflict?
The reason we can have the scientific method is replicability. If we lived in a truly random universe complex machines like cars or planes would fail to start or fall out of the sky. It is the intelligibility of the universe that allows us to come up with these inventions.
A Belgian Catholic Priest was the first person to propose the Big Bang Theory. Do you think George Lemaitre thought that he couldn't study physics and the origin of our universe because of Genesis?
Anonymous No.82094417 [Report] >>82094531 >>82094531 >>82097648
>>82094316
>If we lived in a truly random universe complex machines like cars or planes would fail to start or fall out of the sky
They do. We improve them so they don't do it so often, but it still happens.

>It is the intelligibility of the universe that allows us to come up with these inventions
So? Is there a step between the universe has rules... and Yahweh and his whiny son must therefor exist that you're leaving out?

>George Lemaitre thought that he couldn't study physics and the origin of our universe because of Genesis?
Of course he did. He's brilliant, he knew magical bullshit and physics don't mix. He never stopped a physics lecture to talk about how a magic Jew summoned dead fish for lunch. He liked Catholicism for whatever reason and didn't want to give it up. Fine with me, that doesn't make voodoo spiritualism compatible with reality.
Anonymous No.82094531 [Report] >>82094814
>>82094417
>>82094417
No I don't think you're getting what I mean. In a random universe if you drop a bottle it doesn't always fall straight down. Sometimes it would fall sideways or straight up.
In a random universe the sun wouldn't rise in the East and set in the West. I mean you've probably played video games. Have you experienced physics glitches in our reality like you have seen in video games?
>Is there a step between the universe has rules... and Yahweh and his whiny son must therefor exist that you're leaving out?
Yeah the step is you don't have to believe in Jesus Christ to believe our world has a creator and has an internal logic. That compared to the chaotic digital worlds humans can make our world is incredibly ordered at the level of physics if not biology. Humans will call in sick. The Sun hasn't called in sick once.
Anonymous No.82094557 [Report]
>Have you accepted Christ, Robot ?
I would like to die and meet Him, as soon as possible.
Anonymous No.82094658 [Report]
>>82094316
>Why are you acting like science and the church are in conflict?
Because the church has a history of rejecting scientific explanations in favor for religious explanations, like when Galileo was arrested for his research.
We don't live in a random universe, there are laws that govern reality, but I'm suspicious of the idea that there must be a central authority, God (especially the Christian one), who created and planned it all just because those rules are there. What if it's patterns naturally arise without there being any God involved? What if reality just falls into place the same way a free market does? I'm not a libertarian but you reminded me of something I saw Hayek say somewhere: "To the naive mind that can conceive of order only as the product of deliberate arrangement, it may seem absurd that in complex conditions order, and adaptation to the unknown, can be achieved more effectively by decentralizing decisions and that a division of authority will actually extend the possibility of overall order. Yet that decentralization actually leads to more information being taken into account.". He obviously said this in reference to free markets vs centralized planning and socialism but I don't see why the same idea can be applied to reality. Maybe, just as predictable patterns naturally arise in free markets which can be calculated, so too do patterns arise in other vast systems made up of countless variables that interact with one another, from which rules can be derived. Just as I don't think god himself is the invisible hand directing every economic actor so that they form patterns, I also don't think there's a God directing each particle in existence so that they also form patterns or systems.
As for Christians who study and contribute to science, I wonder what they think about Christianity opinion on the age of the Earth vs science's opinion. If their explanations are widely accepted then clearly they're credible, but that doesn't mean God is real.
Anonymous No.82094748 [Report]
Yes! He is my lord and savior!
Anonymous No.82094814 [Report]
>>82094531
In crazy mix-em-up random world, there wouldn't be life. Or planets or stars or anything. Just clowns bouncing around wagging their dicks at you. So because gravity exists I have to concede a Jewish sorcerer created it? There's several steps in between that you're missing and I'm willing to bet your solution is "just read the Bible, bro". I did. It's not very interesting nor plausible.

I read the Quran, the Eddas, and the Bhagavad Gita too. All nonsense, all the equivalent of bronze age/antiquity Marvel Comics.
Anonymous No.82094824 [Report]
>>82094183 (OP)
I believe in god and I'm like christian or catholic or whatever but I still fuck my boyfriend every night
Anonymous No.82095408 [Report]
>>82094183 (OP)
Indeed.

Christ has died. Christ is risen. Christ will come again.
Anonymous No.82095629 [Report]
I have, I'm not sure if he accepted me
Anonymous No.82095654 [Report]
>>82094183 (OP)
No, I am an apostate, I don't care for Christ.
Anonymous No.82096189 [Report]
>>82094183 (OP)
i did at one point but i lost my faith a long time ago
Anonymous No.82096269 [Report]
>>82094183 (OP)
>have you accepted this common flavor of archontic programming designed to keep you on the farm forever?
Nope.
Anonymous No.82096277 [Report]
I'm trying to follow him but I'm met with coldness and indifference by catholics.
Anonymous No.82097439 [Report]
>>82094183 (OP)
I think hes definitely someone to emulate but as an autist I dont have a connection to the regular everyday people I meet. How could I love someone I never met before. Also some of his biggest fans use him to further their own greed.
Anonymous No.82097575 [Report]
Luv Jesus, hate people, I have failed him
Anonymous No.82097585 [Report]
Do not see any reason to honestly, even if it was true
Anonymous No.82097588 [Report]
>>82094189
His Palestinian license plate.
Anonymous No.82097648 [Report] >>82097893 >>82098200 >>82098218
>>82094417
the funniest thing is that scientists at first rejected Lemaitre's theory because it is too close to Christian Genesis doctrine. Up until then the consensus was that everything just existed forever, they didn't want to give Christians a "win" by saying that there is an event that started and "created" everything
Anonymous No.82097730 [Report]
>>82094189
Mingecake
Anonymous No.82097893 [Report]
>>82097648
Okay God started the Big Bang and humans and chimpanzees have a common ancestor.
Anonymous No.82098200 [Report]
>>82097648
The Big Bang theory does not co dim Genesis. It contradicts Genesis which says that the Earth was created first, is flat, and that space is a dome.
Anonymous No.82098218 [Report]
>>82097648
The Big Bang theory does not confirm Genesis. It contradicts Genesis which says that the Earth was created first, is flat, and that space is a dome
Anonymous No.82098272 [Report]
i accepted christ in to my heart but only because i was a kid and people made mee do it. now he's subletting to all sorts of shady characters
Anonymous No.82098291 [Report]
>>82094183 (OP)
I have, undyingly.
Blessed is the LORD, for the is King of kings and Lord of lords.