Thread 82096647

Why are roasties so insane and neurotic? It's crazy how insecure they are.

you're a disgusting porn addict, no woman cares what you think or would even consider you as an option

Her only flaw is in taking all of it upon herself. Pornsick men are the ones who are inferior, flawed, and diametrically opposed to true love. This isn't a healthy mindset, but the healthy mindset would be to channel this disgust toward pornsick men and her inadequate partner, not to shrug it off and tolerate settling for a neanderthal.

>>82096647 (OP)
Insane how strong of a parallel between women's body count and men's porn addiction have.

Sadly, incels like me are also very neurotic.

>>82096665
I've already slept with 29 women and could get engaged to 2 different women right now if I wanted to.

>>82096666
>>82096665
It's crazy to me how jealous femcels are of porn lmao

>>82096647 (OP)
I think what women have to realize is that it's indeed not about them. She could be the most gorgeous woman to have ever lived, and a guy would still feel horny for other women. It's because men's sexuality is polyamorous. Men crave variety. This doesn't mean that a guy can't be loyal, since men still have full control over their choices, even if they don't control what they are attracted to. It also means that a guy can indeed consider you to be absolutely perfect for him despite feeling horny for other women. I think this misconception in some women's brains arises because they try to project their own sexuality onto men. Meaning hypergamy. If men were indeed hypergamous, then it would be extremely worrying if they were looking sexually at other women.

>>82096712
I'm not "jealous of porn" and I'm absolutely opposed to any sort of (((porn banning))) legislation. I consume porn with my partners, I simply have standards. Not all men who consume porn are capital p Pornsick.

>>82096736
>Femcel "has standards"
Lmao

>>82096736
Need someone like this so bad.

Anyone else notice it's only Americans who have all these weird opinions on porn? Acting like it's a drug you can get "addicted" to (lmao) or a "sickness" LOL

For us Europeans it's just something you watch when you're horny and want to jack off, just like going to a brothel for a quick fuck every 2 weeks.

I am genuinely puzzled when I see posts like this. Why are Americans like this?

>>82096723
You're being obtuse to the actual crux of the issue. Every human being on the planet that isn't asexual is "polyamorous" in attraction; unless you legitimize demisexuality as well, but a lot of "demisexuals" are just kids who don't understand that it's not exceptional to only experience attraction toward people you've built an intimate bond and shared history with instead of spending any considerable amount of time lusting over randoms. Women share the nature of being able to experience physical attraction toward someone outside their relationship, they just aren't programmed by decades of societal conditioning and exposure to absolutely neuron-decimating levels of oversaturated and overstimulated pornographic content---the female equivalent would most likely be media that gives them skewed ideas of romance that gives them all the entitlement of a top class female without any of the value or virtue to back it up.

>>82096775
I think it's largely a religious thing. A lot of these posters grew up in religious households so when these girls learn that their boyfriend came to big boobs on pornhub they have neurotic breakdowns.

>>82096736
>Pornsick
Define

>>82096698
The difference is that men have the Madonna whore complex aka the inability to put a whore on a pedestal like a Madonna, which is entirely sane, the insanity is using this term as if it's like a mental deficit for not putting a whore on a pedestal. These women with high body counts (most if not all modern day women) must view themselves as a Madonna while completely glazing over the fact they're whores who don't deserve to even be at the footsteps of the pedestal Madonna is at, simply because if they ever acknowledge they're whores they must realize they have no business on a pedestal. But alas women of today are nothing but self centered narcissistic gold digging sluts who lie as a collective unconscious for the benefit of women and only women even if they pretend to be selfless it's like a Greek bearing gifts it only serves to benefit them covertly.

>>82096854
Shit definition of Madonna-whore complex. More accurately, it is about wanting to have your cake and eat it too but lacking any capacity for nuance, barring themselves from any potential with a partner who can do it all. Men with that complex are their own obstacle (thusly, prone to projection), because of their own hang-ups with expressing taboo sexuality toward a woman they respect/love too much, and not being able to hold in balance a woman who has actualized her own sexuality as being a multifaceted individual whose humanity is not tarnished by her mastery of sensuality.

>>82096835
Express your thoughts on the concepts of video game or food addiction first so you can't backpedal and shiest around hypocritically with moving semantic goalposts.

>>82096791
>Every human being on the planet that isn't asexual is "polyamorous" in attraction
That's not really true. Polyamorous sexual predisposition doesn't mean that you simply can find multiple people attractive. It means that you crave sexual variety, and that a single partner cannot *fully* satisfy you, no matter how attractive they are. That's not how female attraction works. Women's attraction is hypergamous. Meaning that they tunnel vision on a specific man of perceived status. If they don't see the man as deficient in some ways, then such a man should be able to fully satisfy them sexually. Cheating or polyandry in such cases happens mostly when the woman indeed sees her partner as lacking, so she wants to get those missing things from other men. Women like the one in picrel then project that on their boyfriends. They think that there's something that they are lacking that their boyfriends want to get from somewhere else.

>>82096775
It's women gaslighting men as usual. You don't see it as much in EU, because it's still hasn't taken root as much.

loveafterporn is one of those insane boards. the way they always encourage each other, ramble on about "pornsick males"... strongly recommend giving it a lurk if you enjoy internet crazies.

>>82096911
>video game or food addiction
I dont believe in either

>>82096911
>Shit definition of Madonna-whore complex. More accurately, it is about wanting to have your cake and eat it too
Lmao you can't be serious you dumbass bitch, being a whore and surprised you aren't treated like a princess is exactly what I was alluding to with the cake and eat it too argument I made before, you really tried to turn it around like it's the men doing this when as I pointed out it's not
>because of their own hang-ups with expressing taboo sexuality toward a woman they respect/love too much, and not being able to hold in balance a woman who has actualized her own sexuality as being a multifaceted individual whose humanity is not tarnished by her mastery of sensuality.
Lots of words to say treat women like a flawed person but whenever you criticize a person who happens to be a woman you can't do so because they're flawed. That's not how that works dummy, a person can be criticized aka judged if you're going to attempt to hide behind the label of woman particularly a respectable woman while saying we're like all flawed and stuff in a convoluted way just save us all the trouble and say don't judge us and you'll coochie. The same way a fuckboy knew not to judge you to get coochie so does the guy who knows better than to marry a whore by judging them if they're Madonna or a whore to find a wife. You're just a whore that's fuckable not marriage worthy. That's why the past matters doubling down on shaming guys for being about to identify long term partners from short term isn't a complex it's sanity.

>>82096775
umm no it is not america specific lmao. i am an anti-porn woman living in the eu and there are like thousands of us. maybe you just surround yourself with degenerates.
>>82096797
it isn't. i am not even religious yet still against porn.
>>82097039
strongly recommend killing yourself if you can't comprehend a life without porn.

>>82097062
>I don't believe in [empirically validated physiological afflictions].
Dropped + called it.

>>82096923
Appreciate the clarification. I don't disagree with that as the appropriate definition, and it surely seems to be the case with our current understandings of biology. However, still a separate facet of the topic.

Something something.. If the difference between defining someone as insecure for reconsidering what their worth *in* the life of a man who not only struggles with porn addiction or a significantly unhealthy relationship to pornographic material, but who projects and disregards/disrespects the boundaries of their partner in a delusional and manipulative attempt to justify or downplay their pornsickness, cannot be accurately differentiated from someone who *is* insecure and instead questions their *overall* worth totally independent of their partner's vices and disrespect/betrayal/excusemaking, then the discourse cannot progress.
Just as not all people who consume porn are pornsick, not all people who feel they were given dishonest expectations from a partner who wasn't honest about their porn habits or who has objectively unhealthy habits which are antithetical to worthwhile pair bonding are "insecure".

>>82096775
Women are getting uppity about not landing a chad or delusional betabuxx to commit in the US that they genuinely think taking away men's stress relief like a parent does with a child's toy will make them clean up except it's not the child's mess but theirs. Absolutely wonderful witnessing how retarded they are thinking this shits going to work.

>>82096647 (OP)
If Women Are Afraid Of Dudes Asking Other Women On Dates
Then They Should Just Ask Out Dudes Who Can't Get Dates

>>82097120
>being a whore and surprised you aren't treated like a princess
Low IQ misinterpretation. I was not referring to that type of woman. A whore is a whore, rest assured. But not all women who engage in taboo kinks and so on are cut-and-dry, oversimplistically deserving of being referred to as "whores" and it is intellectually and morally dishonest for a man to pin his own inability to in2 multifacetedness and fear of multifaceted women on those women by placing them firmly only into either the "Madonna" or "whore" boxes.

Read the rest of your post but retardation confirmed. Two strikes is more than enough. Extremely common robot L to ignore the actual content of the argument of the person in front of them to engage in another
>arguing with the ghost of the retards just as retarded as me but with a perspective of a slightly different camp
episode. Have a good seethe.

>>82096775
Yep. It's a joke that 76000 Americans die each year of fentanyl overdose and yet they have the nerve of comparing porn to a drug because pearl clutching suburban women who read erotic novels about werewolf rapist billionaires told them so

>>82096647 (OP)
Women will dp anything to stop their husbands from looking at porn except have sex with him regularly. 0 sympathy.

>>82097181
NTA but
>women who engage in taboo kinks and so on are cut-and-dry, oversimplistically deserving of being referred to as "whores"
Drop all the pretense. It's as simple as.
Has casual sex = Whore
Doesn't have casual sex = Not a whore
Yes, a woman who doesn't value her intimacy is a whore no matter the spin you try to give it. It has nothing to do with kinks.
Yes, they're exclusive categories. Having mixed feelings only betrays incoherent behavior.
>Dishonest expectations
No, you aren't entitled to absolute honesty from a person you didn't know a few months ago. You didn't earn that degree of trust
>Given
No, the heavily idealized image of a partner is something not only you build in your mind but you pressure your partner to adopt consciously or unconsciously.
It isn't something that has nothing to do with you. If you pressure your partner hard to live up to your ideals you'll only deceive yourself.
You can't place your expectations on little more than a stranger and then feel betrayed when you actually meet him.

>>82097329
There's no pretense. I'm overclarifying because you clearly required me to, dumbshit, and I did from the beginning because these threads are always filled with subhumans who need everything spelled out airtight from the very beginning because they either have no faith that everyone shares the same definition of whore, or they're trying to flipflop because they're not actually mentally present or invested in the discussion at hand, they just want to screech about whores in general and feel invalidated if not given "Yes, yes, if she breathes she's a thot" copium. I haven't tried to give it any spin, you're just hoping for the chance to pwn someone so hard you can't accept that you're trying to force me to act as some similarly dishonest cunt trying to argue some lame shit like
>"we're like all flawed and stuff"
"...and so you not wanting to be my betabuxx provider after my cock carousel self-discovery arc is a character and masculinity failing on YOU ackshully".

>you aren't entitled to absolute honesty from a person you didn't know a few months ago. You didn't earn that degree of trust
Lmao. How Jewish of you. Mossad hours, truly. You got me, moishe, I'll admit. 6/10.

>>82097329
Goddamnit, you got me so good I actually do have to "And ANOTHA thing..." this one, just in the hopes someone else has the energy to entertain your bullshit and I'll have something good to read later.

>pressure your partner hard to live up to your ideals you'll only deceive yourself.
You can't place your expectations on little more than a stranger and then feel betrayed when you actually meet him.
Imagine being such a slimy little kike you would try to equate these absolute strawmen with
>Basic decency requires forthcomingness without truth being dragged out of you when you begin dating, as well as answering honestly and without trickle-truths or white lies when having foundational conversations with a partner mature and healthy enough to recognize the necessity to gauge compatibility by talking about things such as porn, politics, and feelings about parenthood.

And in the next most likely other case where those discussions weren't had before the pornsickness reared it's head, the fact is still
>Feels intimidated by partner's objectively healthy porn consumption, feels they as a person are lesser or inadequate and if they weren't they would be "enough" for their partner = insecure
>Questions whether a partner's unhealthy porn usage can be remedied enough not for it to affect how much they are respected or remained loyal to, even if their partner's own issues don't escalate into harming that person's self esteem = not reacting from insecurity, not viable as being stamped overall as an Insecure Person

One might think my investment in this is some feminist angle or some shit, but truly it just elicits immediate autistic screeching from me when faggots try to redefine language to validate their, in this case, hypocritical need to label all women disapproving of or reckoning with their partner's porn consumption, whether rightfully deemed pornsick-tier or not, as "insecure", while in the same breath implying or outright claiming that an unhealthy relationship with porn doesn't exist, coomers did nothing wrong, and "M-muh addictive personality sounds like a you problem, ackshully". Just as fucking stupid as the "You're just not a REAL MAN if you can't love me for my blown-out puss" angle. For fucks sake. You're allowed to say you hate women. But it's a BEYOND bitchmade move to desperately defend ontologically shit takes through delusion and bad faith of the degree common to the likes of these threads.

I've used this board since it was created. Believe me, I'm not interested in trying to shift incel opinion about Woman-as-Egregore. But I will ree to the end of my days about you shit-for-brains, rhetoriclets' indefensible and self-oblivious hypocrisy on a purely intellectual basis.

>>82096647 (OP)
Women always do this retarded shit for one reason or another. If it wasn't porn it would be your "lack of ambition" or "the mystery is just gone" or "you don't romance me like I used to" or "I'm just not in the mood"
Women are incapable of Love. Everything is a transaction to them
The average woman loses attraction after one or two years. Spend the little time you have wisely

>>82097624
>>82097731
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH I'M OWNED THIS AND THAT!
I don't even think that you're a woman at this point after the whole /pol/ rant but it's just too funny to ignore it.
IRL you won't find this kind of commitment from anyone even if it isn't one-sided (which I honestly doubt as everyone shits and farts) and only a lunatic would expect such a thing.

>>82097750
>>82097774
Stop pretending to be a woman. It's just sad.
Porn-sickness isn't real unlike adultery. The boards position is completely coherent

>>82097750
>>82097774
Pseudointellectual brainlet

>>82097140
>empirically validated
By whom ? :smugjak:

>>82096647 (OP)
Notice shes still with PornChad

>>82096666
Mega-Satan confirms... ironically.

Stop watching porn gents.

>>82099029
The day women stop reading smut and building ballistic silos in their bathrooms, mayhaps.
Until then, no way Satan

>>82096647 (OP)
Men are supposed to be stoic and aloof, women dont want to hear about your trauma, dont fall for their trap, they dont care and nothing good will come from it.

The demonisation of pornography is idiotic; I grew up without the internet, getting access to porn didn't make me any worse (or better). It's just more convenient than a catalogue, or gymnastics / music videos.

>>82099283
Yes. I asked an anon earlier if jerking off in the shower in my mind to visions of various women while ignoring real women otherwise is OK.
She said yes because its natural. They just hate men and want to remove any ease of use for us. I specifically said I would ignore women even without porn.

Maybe if it was the 1900s and I didn't have an understanding of them.

>>82096666
>true love
you have to be 18 or above to post here

>>82096775
UK just imposed a nation wide block on "inappropriate websites" and eurocucks are following suit. Feminists are cracking down on prostitution and female nudity. The internet is being censored more and more. America isn't anywhere near as bad.

>>82096647 (OP)
thats a lot of reading, I cant do it

>>82100702
they should have said anglosphere instead of american. anglo nations are uniquely mentally ill, probably caused by accumulated dna damage from centuries and millennia living in british bogs before spreading their culture around the world

>>82100702
>Feminists
*Christian lunatics who call themselves "feminists" even though they clearly aren't

if women don't want their bfs to watch porn, then why don't they satisfy them in bed so they don't need to watch it?

>>82096665
>6
>>82096736
>>82096911
pornography/erotica was a divine ordained necessary evil so that it would memetically raise men's standards. that's a good thing. But it is still not high enough. It won't be high enough until virtual hentai companions make every "real woman" like garbage in the eyes of man.

It's so funny how much garbage we've entertained up until now. Like for a minute we had to pretend a media was bad because it gave women "body image issues" as if it's not their own damn fault. People unironically ate this shit up without considering the free will or lack thereof, of women. Society has a responsibility to move the fuck on, accelerate AI and let coddled girls adapt or get left behind.

the way you pick and choose which degeneracy is "le fine" purely revolves around gynocentric religiosity

Moids on this very board do the exact same thing lol

>>82099029
yeah instead we should e-whore around and get pumped and dumped by narcissistic chuds right? fuck off.

>>82096647 (OP)
the worst part is women will say she has every right to be insecure but when you bring up guys not being okay with women's body count all of a sudden you're the bigot. i hate this stupid timeline.

>>82101903
>Doesn't know how feminist has been linked to crazy christian lunatics from the start
ngmi

Maybe I should try to get a porn addiction, seems like women strongly prefer porn men. This is evidenced by the fact so many are married. Crazy woman wife obviously has some downsides, but it's better than no wife. And I would have a useful manipulation tool. She could never deny sex because the implied threat is I will get addicted again and become homeless begging for money to go buy more only fans and playboys.
>nag nag brunch nag
>we need to redo the kitchen my refrigerator is two years...
>the granite countertops are so old I'm scared to use them you bought them almost four years ago and Becky has...
Wife! Please stop, my penis is starting to wiggle and I may have to masturbate!
>omg nooo I will save you husband
>*suck suck suck*
>*swallow
Wow thank you babe, you keep me accountable and help in fighting this terrible affliction and incurable disease.
What is the most addicting type of porn? I'm guessing it would be VR of some kind, hentai with super big boobs that make milk and I'm having a virtual threesome with an elf and space alien. Or some kind of eroge since it pulls you in with the gameplay and story. She might doubt I'm really addicted if I just jerk it for five minutes then go back to anime or check on the garden.

>>82102375
Women always talk plenty of shit but fall for men that go against all their "values" and icks.
The meme gender

>>82096854
This is such a schizo post lmao

>>82096775
Yeah it's bizarre, young men are horny and jacking off and being told that it's an addiction. Sometimes I wish I had that pure horny animalistic drive I had when I was 18 and jacking off 3/4 times a day

Looking at a photo of an attractive woman with large breasts exposed for five minutes once or twice a week means I'm an addict.
The person telling me this weighs more than 130lbs. Seems a little silly. These women are just projecting their evil nature on random innocent people. The fat subhuman isn't even a virgin. She is addicted to food and sexual immorality being a disgusting promiscuous obese slut whore.

Maybe women should just try harder to compete with porn? If you're getting cucked by pornstars it's literally your own fault for not being able to compete

Why don't they just have sex with their boyfriends?
I would never look at porn again if I had a girlfriend who had sex with me whenever I wanted (but of course that's bad so I can't have that)

>>82096665
>>82096736
>>82096911
>>82097140
Holy fuck. You are the most insufferable foid I have ever seen. I feel bad for any man that has to be in the same room as you.

>Incel can't get laid
You're not entitled to sex, go take a shower, work out, get new clothes, go to therapy, work on your personality, get a 6 figure job...
>Foid can't sexually compete with pixels on a screen
OMG porn addiction is so evil! It corrupts men's minds! We need to ban porn and stop evil men from ignoring their fat girlfriends who are bad at sex

>>82097263
This.
>what do they have that I don't
Availability. Simple as that. I will have non-zero sympathy if she is 100% down to FUCK hard on demand 24/7 and he's der coomer anyway.

>>82096736
kek cope, your porn books are the same thing but you read them in public

>>82096647 (OP)
Women fantasize about other men and actually fuck multiple before their ltr so I don't understand them freaking out about other women.