>parents are thin, great metabolism, can eat 1 million calories and still wont gain weight
>me, metabolism non-existent, fat, they fed me shit food growing up and now even eating under 800cals daily my body wont lose weight

thanks to pcos my body is cursed to be fat and disgusting. i want to die. thin women are so beautiful i can never be like that because i didn't inherit my parents genetics and instead got a fucking disease that makes it impossible to lose anything without starving

i ate 600cals last 2 days AND I GAINED??? IM NOT MISCALCULATING IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF

>>82103955 (OP)
accept your reality and embrace fat fetishist men

Judging by the gif you just want me to be turned on by your fat body, which I am

>>82103955 (OP)
600 cals is too little you are going to lose muscle mass instead of fat, and then become skinnyfat (been there done dat, I'm skinny everywhere but my stomach now. And loose skin yay.)

Also weigh yourself only once to twice a week in the morning before youve eaten or drank anything, anything beside that will be wrong. Also one pound of fat is 5000cals so assuming your maintenance is 2000, thats 5000 - 1200 = 3800, which is so small it wouldn't show a scale difference anyway.

>>82103965
Not OP but PCPS women tend to have more masculine fat distributions

>>82103955 (OP)
you must have some insane disease.
this is your responsibility, but you seem to just want to complain. Stupid whore.
You have a disease, therefore to go the doctor's and get it sorted.
If you do not have a disease, then you are miscalculating. Your body does not violate the laws of thermodynamics.
well whatever, most likely this is larp anyways. Fuck you. Get a hobby.

>>82103985
i dont have muscle anyway because i dont do muscle exercises anymore. skinnyfat isnt all that bad but i dont have much stomach fat now so id hopefully be safe from that

always weight myself in the morning as soon as i wake up, already know that trick. picrel is my maintenance and everything

>>82103987
luckily i was not cursed with this, i inherited my mums hourglass figure

>>82103995
literally says in thread i have pcos, learn to read. i literally said it makes it hard to lose weight

its not something fixable

>>82104034
>complaining about being a chubby hourglass (the most attractive bodytype)

>>82104034
>Chunky hourglass

Da bes

>>82103955 (OP)
>now even eating under 800cals daily my body wont lose weight
Holy copium. Stop lying to yourself.

>>82103955 (OP)
thermodynmics is law, retard
if you're not losing weight then you're eating more calories than you think.

>Monday
>Eat 4500 calories
>Tuesday
>eat 600 calories
>Wedensday
>Eat 6000 calories
>WTF WHY DID I GAIN WEIGHT I ONLY ATE 600 CALORIES THOSE 2 DAYS?!?!

Just have electrolytes like that guy that didn't eat anything.
Sometimes it takes a while for the ketosis to kick in

Have you considered working as a powerplant if the second law of thermodynamics doesn't apply to your body?
My sister has pcos and was a fat hamplanet until I flat out told her to just cut out anything with sugar in her retarded girlmath way of counting calories and go for a walk while listening to audio books instead of doom scrolling and watching anime in bed all day long. Lo and behold, fat fuck got down to a normal weight.

>>82104076
>>82104080
pcos practically makes weightloss impossible

i have starved myself, occasionally ate and vomitted it back up before for about 2 months and only lost 5kgs

pcos is a disgusting curse

>>82104067
yeah until you have a fat ugly face and flabby arms that look fucking ridiculous

>>82104091
tfw people dont read the thread properly,

i eat under 800cals daily, i cant eat more because i take meds that make me feel sick and i have arfid

>>82104097
i mean to be fair i dont work out or walk as much as i should

the 2 foods i can force myself to eat are insulinogenics which is probably not helping me

>>82104034
No I don't mean muscle as in bulk muscle, I mean the meat beneath your fat. Dude I'm seriously warning you now please atleast 1000cals minimum this is not a road you want to go down. My organs began to eat themselves to the point I couldn't walk without a cane for 6 months. I have chronic stomach ulcers and heartburn because my stomach ate it's own lining. If I don't monitor it, it'll become stomach cancer. When I had an ED everyone i loved left me because I was constantly a negative depressed braindead retard that could only think about food all day. I failed my senior year because I was too braindead to study or focus.

idc, you have a boyfriend, go bitch about it to him
he hates fat girls? not my problem, should've dated a robot who would love you

>>82104080
Not op but the thermodynamics literally cant work with pcos. Your metabolism is fucked, and the hormones that aid in burning calories are fucked too. It makes you insulin resistant so your cells can't even absorb glucose properly. It's like people with hypothyroidism randomly losing 20kgs in 4 months even though they didn't do shit different, it's because their hormones regulated by their thyroid gets fucked. So you can't even "thermodynamics" properly if that makes sense.

>>82104163
It is physically impossible to gain weight on a calorie restriction that puts you below your energy expenditure. If you gain weight it's because you're eating more than your energy expenditure or you're retaining water in which case go see a doctor. Losing weight as a result of disease is fundamentally different I don't know why you even brought that up, no disease makes you gain weight during an energy deficit though.

>>82104139
ive already been down this road before and landed myself in hospital because of it. i cant fucking escape this shit i just want to be normal and it grosses me out that im not. i dont talk openly about it and no one cares that much for my existence anyways and i have nothing to fail because im already a highschool drop out. if these issues are what it takes.to get there ill just do it

>>82104163
finally, someone who understands what pcos does, thank you anon

>>82104152
im in love with a robot from here but hes a health nut and lean so it makes me sad

>>82104175
>Trying to use logic on a fatty mcgoo
lol that doesn't work. It's oooobviously not their fault, it's muh hekkin disorder, OKAY?!?!?! Everything everyone knows about weight gain/loss doesn't apply because REEEEEEE

>Have disorder that fucks with your metabolism and sugar retention
>Eat things that make you gain weight because they're high in sugar
>Blame disorder
>?????
>Be fat (profit!)

>>82103955 (OP)
Getting fat CAUSES pcos. And losing weight cures it.
And I'm sorry, but 12% of men prefer obese women. So calling yourself disgusting is actually offensive to us.

That's like being a fan of a video game, and then the game calls itself a shit game.

>>82104034
Wait a minute. Are you that 38 bmi chick? Awesome.

>>82104175
I thought you'd be smart enough to know the inverse of hypothyroidism is hyperthyroidism, but anyways with that your body produces too much of the thyroid hormone, which drastically decreases your BMR. so you are thermodynamic-ing, just a whole shit ton slower like with pcos. It also causes a lot of water retention. A lot of medications or even just eating too much sodium can cause a shit ton of water retention.
> inb4 "fatty" I was on medication that made me gain weight while I wasnt on an active deficit, and had to get tested for these things. I didn't gain a lot but I am bmi 19.

>>82104202
my foods arent particularly high in sugar but theyre high in carbs (i only buy low carb alternatives but it doesnt take away from the fact its potatoes and pasta) because i struggle with anything else

>>82104206
well like i said in post my parents fed me like shit because they were lazy and they could eat whatever they wanted. so i developed pcos and insulin resistance

im not that 38 bmi chick (are you talking about sems?)

my bmi is 27

>>82104231
>which drastically decreases your BMR
Oh so your energy expenditure is lower? So just eat less or move more. Are you stupid?

>>82104237
Im saying you can't exactly track how much lower it is. Of course you can just increase deficit but OP won't exactly know by how much to increase it by. Also you can't really do much about water retention which can add up to 15lbs in extreme cases.

>>82104189
> understands
Yeah it is a bit annoying that men think our bodies work the same as theirs do. They'll understand once they experience steroid abuse side effects... maybe.

>>82103955 (OP)
You're hypothyroid and wrecking your metabolism with starvation. Look up Ray Peat

>>82104234
>my foods arent particularly high in sugar but theyre high in carb
>My foods aren't high in sugar
>Buuuut they are high in sugar
?????????????????????????????????? So you know EXACTLY why you're not able to lose weight, but you just refuse to change it and blame your disorders.
Of course. Typical excuse maker.

>>82104261
holy fuck im so retarded i didnt know those were the same thing

im ending it

>>82104256
>Im saying you can't exactly track how much lower it is
You don't have to. If you're gaining weight, eat less. If you're not losing and you want to, eat less.
>but OP won't exactly know by how much to increase it by
This is not rocket science, just eat less. I don't track my calories at all and somehow I always get to whatever weight I want to be.
>Also you can't really do much about water retention which can add up to 15lbs in extreme cases
Most fat people are full of fat, not water though.

>>82104107
>only 5kg
>only
Holy fatass stop eating so much and handle your shit and stop giving up half way. Buy bulk inositol powder. Check your thyroid levels. And stop lying to your fat self.

>>82104272
You want high fiber food if you're eating carbs. Beans are better than pasta for example.

>>82104272
How do you not know that carbs break down directly into sugar? That's like literal common knowledge.

>>82104234
Clinical obesity is 30 bmi. Lying name fag. You're not obese. Just overweight. Sems is more like 40 to 60.

How did they give you a different diet. What did you eat and what did they eat?

>>82104261
You realize even protein gets broken into sugar right? It's called the catabolic side.

Just fast for 6-12 hours a day, not including sleep. Probably best to break it after work so you don't sleep on an empty stomach.

>>82104296
I cap at 12 hours because I'm prone to gallstones according to my dna. Fat people are prone to it too.

>>82104273
That is because you are a man, genius. Women's bodies hold onto stubborn fat a lot more than men's bodies do because muh fertility. You literally cannot compare experiences to another woman's, fat or not. It is a whole lot more harder for women to lose weight than men, especially because men's maintenances are so high. She could have a 1600 maintenance and you could have a 2500 one and you could both eat at 1200 which would be "eating less" for you, but not a lot for her. She would have to cut out breakfast and maybe even lunch just to lose the same amount of weight you do just eating a smaller portion at dinner.

>inb4 waaah ur wrong, women naturally have higher healthy bf%.

>>82104257
On the remote chance this isn't a troll thread, this book will help you

https://archive.org/details/how-to-heal-your-metabolism-learn-how-the-right-foods-sleep-the-right-amount-of-/mode/2up

>>82104261
>he fell for the carbs are bad psyop

>>82104307
>Women's bodies hold onto stubborn fat a lot more than men's bodies do
That's nonsensical. You burn more than you eat, you lose weight. End of story.
>She could have a 1600 maintenance and you could have a 2500 one and you could both eat at 1200
At 1200 she loses a pound every 10 days in your scenario.
>She would have to cut out breakfast and maybe even lunch
I eat two meals a day and I'm fine. Some people eat one meal a day and they're fine. You don't HAVE to eat three a day.
>women naturally have higher healthy bf%
Women aren't naturally BMI 30 though

>>82104281
idk no one ever explains shit about nutrition to me, and i just havent looked into too much on my own desu. i sit and calculate my cals and thats it

>>82104284
they didnt give me a different diet, i ate the same shit they ate but i didnt get their metabolism. my mum ate mcdonalds althroughout her pregnancy and i got mcdonalds pretty often for the first 5 years of my life. my mum would let me eat lots of sugar and my dad basically lived off mcdonalds, dominos and sausages so when i saw him thats all we'd eat. they did not give 2 shits about my health

i know im not "obese" but im still fat

>>82104234
>my bmi is 27
Genuinely not that much
Many people have PCOS and many more struggle with weight
Have you tried fasting? Keto?
>>82104284
Sems is 55, she's actually lost 50 pounds
She also mogs everyone at my college

>>82104326
All you really need to know about nutrition is to eat mostly minimally processed foods. So cut out the pizza, bread, candy bars, and ice cream. Eat beans, apples, spinach, oats, chicken, fish, whatever in there you like but get a variety and make sure you eat lots of vegetables and legumes.

>>82104343
>make sure you eat lots of vegetables and legumes
Don't ever give advice to anyone on anything ever again

>>82104338
Who is this sems chick I wanna see

>>82104338
ive fasted before and done intermittent fasting but ive never done keto

>>82104343
i only really eat pasta and potatoes rn its all i can actually stomach but youre right i need to eat better

>>82104372
picrel is sems

>>82103955 (OP)
I've heard that high protein diets and lifting can really help people suffering from pcos. I'm not an expert so definitely consult the internet but in general it's just a healthier way to live lmao.

>>82104384
>i only really eat pasta and potatoes
How are you alive? At least throw sweet potatoes in to get some vitamin A.

>>82104384
Shes kinda mid. Keto is meant for epileptic children. Just an unsustainable crash diet. Don't do it. Just eat healthy and count calories

>>82104384
You only eat processed carbs? Lmao no wonder
Isn't Sems the most beautiful girl in the world /srs

>>82104396
a high protein diet would definitely be better than what im eating

>>82104397
im not sure desu i wish my body would collapse on itself. ive basically been eating this way for 3 years

>>82104399
>>82104410
sems would be beautiful if she lost a chunk of the weight, she holds her fat decently well tho for how big she is

and alright no keto

>>82104234
carbs ARE Sugar

>>82104451
>ive basically been eating this way for 3 years
Is it autism or what?

>>82104451
Sems would be less beautiful if she lost weight because she would look deflated and loose

>>82104451
Fuck off she could be a fashion model lol
>ive basically been eating this way for 3 years
I'm surprised you aren't unhealthier, it's definitely affecting your insulin
Yk you should be eating majority protein especially if you don't exercise right

>>82104456
autism and arfid yeah

>>82104473
> fashion model
Let's not kid ourselves here porky pusher

>>82104474
You should try to force yourself to eat something different. Or at least take a multi-vitamin. You could probably see a nutrition person for some kind of meal plan that works around the arfid.

>>82104494
Everything looks good on her and she has amazing hair and a pretty face
Helppp I need to leave r9k

>>82104473
well no i didnt know that

i have no idea about this shit

>>82104496
its impossible to force myself because i end up vomitting or i gag too much to even swallow

ive tried

i made viet rolls a few weeks ago to try give myself something healthier and the texture was so bad i had to spit it out because i was gagging so hard i was gonna vomit. ive vomitted from apple slices. i hate this shit

>>82104518
>i have no idea about this shit
You didn't know carbs get turned into glucose which causes your pancreas to release insulin
but you know about fasting and ketogenesis?
And what gives with the fat fetish gif...

>>82104384
don't do keto. trust me

>0 fat pussies have been posted in this thread
i hate fembots and hope they get fatter

>>82104530
i know about fasting and keto because my mum thinks thatd solve all the issues she gave me and she's constantly telling me about it. and because i scroll edtwt

gif was downloaded like that from google

>>82104296
>You realize even protein gets broken into sugar right?
No it does not..
>>82104308
Carbs are bad if you're trying to lose weight. Because they break down into sugar. It's also bad for people who have problems with sugar and insulin, like people with diabetes.
Other than that, they're perfectly fine.

>>82104575
Sugar is so bad for you that you will die if your blood sugar drops below a certain threshold

>>82104575
yes it does
>Yes, protein can be turned into sugar (glucose) through a process called gluconeogenesis. This occurs when the body needs to produce glucose because there is not enough from carbohydrates. 234

>>82104567
Please get off edtwt those people are fucking retarded vapid gigastacies

>>82103955 (OP)
>no pics
post pics or larp

>>82104592
Are you struggling to read what I've typed out for you? Sugar is essential. It's literally the energy that fuels your body, I did not say it's bad, retard.
>>82104610
Basically everything can be turned into sugar when you're deficient in carbs. It's not normal for proteins to break down into sugar. A person who has an excess of sugar in their system will not break down proteins into sugar, nor will the average person.

>>82104575
>It's also bad for people who have problems with sugar and insulin, like people with diabetes
Usual medical advice for diabetes is a diet high in fiber which is also generally high in digestible carbs. Carbs aren't bad for you at all and the best way to lose weight is to eat lots of fiber.

>>82104901
High fiber (vegetables) which are not high carbs. Anything that was alive will have carbs, because, as you know, living things need energy.
Again, I did not say carbs are bad for you. I said carbs are bad for people who have problems with their sugar.
Giving someone who has insulin resistance a high carb food will spike their blood sugar. But broccoli is perfectly fine, even though it has carbs.
Quit being intentionally stupid, you know exactly what I'm saying.

>>82104972
>High fiber (vegetables) which are not high carbs
Legumes are high carb. You can't just eat vegetables there's no way to get all your calories from them. That one guy even treated diabetes with a white rice diet which isn't even fibrous, it comes down to losing weight mostly.