there isn't enough good art of my niche fetish and AI can't replicate it well, so I need to take it upon myself to create
but every time I start to draw, I get embarrassed looking at how amateur it is and also don't want to spend a long time working it out
I guess I could trace other artists for now, but this is more about my ADHD in general, I'm undiagnosed and want to mitigate that because becoming an artist isn't the only goal I've struggled to focus on

>>82104540 (OP)
Unironically, nicotine for focus
Get your ADHD ass a vape or something
My personal ADHD easing cocktail is nicotine, caffeine and weed.

>>82104540 (OP)
Adhd meds are great

>>82104540 (OP)
1. Get ADHD medication
2. Begin at fundamentals, drawing on the right side of the brain is a good book
3. Copy (DON'T TRACE) all you can from artists you want to emulate. Since your fetish is niche you should copy EVERY image with your fetish available, assuming it's niche enough.
4. ???
5. Realize learning to draw to make porn is a bad motivation and is the true reason you're stuck

>>82104560
I've done adderall once and it made me feel superhuman for a day
It was kind of spooky and something THAT powerful has to have some major drawbacks down the line
Which is why I'm content just vaping nicotine instead of doing literal meth

>>82104550
>>82104560
>>82104572
aaagh I never ever wanted to become a faggot who relies on drugs to accomplish everything, it'll give me imposter syndrome if I succeed. I've been raw dogging for my entire life. o well
>>82104569
thanks, and yeah copying is better you're right, I haven't actually traced much of anything because it's boring so I'll follow your advice, but what's wrong with wanting to draw for porn?

>undiagnosed
Fuck off, faggot. You shitheads are the reason no one takes the diagnosis seriously and why people like me have take years of misdiagnoses and many mood stabilizers (which caused me major negative side effects) before the doctor finally sends us for a neuroosych eval that reveals it. You are no better than tbe drug addicts which ruined people getting much needed opioid medication for their pain but don't.

Again, fuck off.

Bro try speed drawing or gestures. It'll help you focus on the important features of like whatever your drawing

if it's ass you can just blame the time limit and start over. with a different reference

that and drawing porn isn't a good motivation. Gooning is quick, making it is slow

>>82104587
I literally never told myself I might have it until I described some specific things / problems to my counselor, resulting in her saying it's a possibility. lol
>>82104589
>drawing porn isn't a good motivation. Gooning is quick, making it is slow
I still appreciate stuff I goon to for its artistic value / passion and effort put into it. I look up to specific artists for that reason. I'm not gonna draw stuff immediately expecting it to be hot as much as I wish that were the case. mostly my shitty time management I think is the problem

>>82104594
>resulting in her saying it's a possibility. lol
>counselor
Many disorders mimick the symptoms other disorders. PTSD is a major one which has symptoms resembling ADHD. Her saying it doesn't mean a damn thing. Her being a "counselor" (and a woman at that) makes a lot of sense.

I wish you could experience the permanent 24/7 crickets chirping tinnitis I have thanks to the Abilify I took that did nothing but cause me negative side effects including feeling sick the entire 5 months I was on it. I fucking wish yiu'd had to go through the years of ineffective therapy. I'd fucking wish you woukd be consideres a cabdidate for ECT because you have "treatment resistant depression." If self-diagnoser had to experience shit like this, maybe they'd understand why people like me get severely pissed off at people like you.

>>82104667
Don't be mad at people who didn't go through the mental health system anon
Be mad at the mental health system itself

just grind fundamentals before attempting to draw more complex things, then you can focus on the process instead of the result

>>82104540 (OP)
What isthe fetish I'll maybe draw it

If you wanna rawdog, your only way will be journal with daily to do list. That you can consistently tick off. And instead of using timed schedule, you just assign some amount of time to each deal. And it shouldn't be too long. This way you can trick your brain into believing the task is easy.

>>82104540 (OP)
digital drawing is one of the easiest skills to learn it took me 8 months of practice from actual toddler doodles to earning small cash (before ai)

practice your 3d perspective. dont be like the twitter retards who only know how to draw front facing heads

alternatively you can just commission art then train them for ai lol

>>82104540 (OP)
Dude just search upper_body and looking_at_viewer there's tons of similar images

>>82104756
tickling that's what I'd do to that twink for hours but AI can't understand it :p also sorry for taking forever, I played a game so understandable if you don't respond
>>82104834
alright, was also thinking of using 3D characters I can pose as direct references so that's another good idea, I should write these down so I don't forget

>>82104540 (OP)
The only way to mitigate it is by abusing one of adhds strengths. That's to build strong habits and hyper focusing. You have to just start drawing and stay consistent. Whether that's once a day or whatever. You won't see improvements unless you can keep at it for a while.

https://youtu.be/CMLEudGbxQk?si=aL7ZbiOckqWvDd3M

>>82105027
Yeah idk how to get a reference for that BUT i do play the sims4 with realistic graphics and I have sex mods that have tickling animations if you want links or if youd want me to record it

>>82104540 (OP)
https://youtu.be/MJDtQTTAogk?si=m2pVcHcUeJ-qKLae

>>82105055
uh I'd just draw a hand running a finger or a feather against him with a sort of pose that looks like he's trying to move away (while he's hard,) that's the degen stuff I want to make some day. and interesting idea if you want to do it, but I would prefer him to look like an anime character xd
>>82105043
>>82105058
will watch both, ty

>>82104550
I'm starting adderall for adhd tomorrow hope it does something

>>82105163
Yes, your prescribed dosage of literal meth will have effects, there's no way it won't because it's fucking METH
I'm sure it will be amazing in the short term, until you realize you've become dependent on it for everyday functioning, and then a shortage hits and your supply gets cut off (this apparently happens all the time too)

>>82104784
yes I used to do basically this, I kept on forgetting to check it though either out of negligence or genuine error. always beneficial to give it another shot tho

>>82104540 (OP)
Shut up queer i could slap you up in front of your dad

>>82105188
Idk medication often doesn't work for me it only makes me sick

>>82104540 (OP)
>but every time I start to draw, I get embarrassed looking at how amateur it is
you're drawing while being in a stress response of fight/flight/fawn/freeze. don't have that state at least when you draw. that's it. that's a common problem most people gloss over.

nothing to do with ADHD or nicotine.
if this was just ADHD at play, you'd complain about switching between drawings too often (also can be valid) and the like

>>82104540 (OP)
>>82104580
>>82105139
this is my ideal bf

t. brown faggot

>>82105216
that's a very good point, my home environment has always been the biggest issue in my life and I know I have the potential to focus so much damn easier when it's better, specifically when my father isn't around

>>82105250
then move out
I couldn't even scribble for longer than 20 minutes every few years until I moved out of a bad environment

>>82104540 (OP)
Your ability to draw is almost entirely determined by natural talent, which affects how quickly you learn. If you weren't already good at it in your teens, then you almost certainly lack talent. You might be able to improve slightly, but it'll take you 10x as long as someone with talent, for a result that's still mogged by them.

>>82105289
that's my goal yeah, of course I'm still at the stage of not being able to drive yet at 24
at least I've become confident I'll get there now, my father always shamed me saying shit like "you'll never do it, you always say you will and you don't" etc. which as an impressionable young person I could not handle. doesn't involve art, but it's had everything to do with my mindset

>>82105303
>Your ability to draw is almost entirely determined by natural talent
natural talent is just neuron configs and neurons keep changing daily. do you even fathom to this to grasp how many things affect that.

don't play le rationalist when you're outside of your small fish puddle

>>82104540 (OP)
Make a friend that's equally as bad and draw together while also aiming to be better than each other. The desire to surpass them should be your daily goal and motivator. And draw something right now too, even if its quick.

I'm bumping my thread because I won't let the racebait spam be the thing that kills it

>>82105734
Not to mention is all filled with the same poster posting those threads samefagging.

>>82105324
>people generally accept that your ability to improve your physical strength is based on genetics
>people generally accept that your ability to improve your intelligence is mostly based on genetics
>people adamantly refuse that your ability to improve at any sort of creative skill is based even partially on genetics
Why?

>>82105774
it's in your question
creativity isn't as predictable and deterministic in measurement attempts. "uhhh creativity is measured in force and computations per second" you wouldn't say something like this, would you?
plus anything breaks under the right method. my whole family tree is upper midwit at best and so was I until I found the right methods of cognition and ended up going 30 IQ more than I tested as a kid, on a fresh verified test
"people generally" and "a set of scientists kinda say I guess" are awful fundamental to think from. read a book

>>82105774
>is based even partially on genetics
also you're a straw manning nigger

>>82105303
waaah someones better than me so theres no point in me doing it!!!!

stfu ill never look like arnold schwarzenegger but i still go to the gym. you know why? because i like it faggot. now rot in your hole

>>82105734
Ugh and of course the tranny bumped like 4 of their threads above this one
>>82105807
>>82105841
You are right, that anon is an anti-human fag who thinks I should never draw cause it's mildly challenging

>>82104540 (OP)
If you don't have the motivation to at least shit out doodles then nothing will help.
No ADHD med in the world fixes a lack of creativity or motivation.

>>82105807
>creativity isn't as predictable and deterministic in measurement attempts.
Art isn't subjective, dumbass
Ask people whether Picasso or Chris-chan is a better artist, and literally everyone would say picasso.

People just get really pissy and defensive whenever you mention that the main reason they're good at the things they do is sheer random chance blessing them, they want to believe that it was "hard work" that got them there instead, like nepo-babies insisting that they got rich through hard work and not just sliding out the right vagina.

>>82106097
>Art isn't subjective, dumbass
>Ask people (beings with subjectivities)
midwit-san, collective of subjectivities is still not objectivity (what's tested and trusted in any condition)

>People just get really pissy and defensive
at this point you're just projecting your reaction when your assumptions get questioned and debated

>sheer random chance
yeah that's a thing. you're short-circuiting as if sheer random chance at one early moment of life is all it takes for anything

>>82106097
then i blame your mom for giving birth to a human talented in faggotry

>>82104540 (OP)
Gonna save this image and pretend it's a flattie gril

>>82105220
That's my ideal gf
t. brown non faggot

>>82106008
>Ugh and of course the tranny bumped like 4 of their threads above this one
And 1/4 of the threads in the catalogue got wiped all at once, including the few it says wasn't them. I wonder what larp out if their 40 they're using today.

Btw, have another bump.

>>82105326
Bern looking for that for 15 years. It's a mix of people never want to do anything or they flake out on you. Sucks shit mang.

>>82104580
>aaagh I never ever wanted to become a faggot who relies on drugs to accomplish everything
And yet you're happy to blame adhd for your lack of accomplishment. Are you sure you're not worried that meds won't work and you'll find out you were never adhd at all, just lazy and undisciplined like everyone said?