Thread 82108096

femgaze porn is so much hotter

>>82108096 (OP)
It has people have sex more often.
I feel a lot of moid hentai is just hot chicks but no one having sex. The covers too often just show some naked chick rather than two people in some sexual position.

Also:
>Faceless hentai protag that is barely in view.

It gets real when foids actually make porn with a male protagonist and some hot demon lord taking him active and raping him all day.

Foids are even better when they make their self-inserts male. Moids lost.

>>82108096 (OP)
I can't self insert into this also the dialogue is cringe

>>82108096 (OP)
>female gaze porn
>the image is still focused on the girl
sigh. please stop ruining my female coomer communities with your male gaze shite

>>82108096 (OP)
>femgaze
>look inside
>it's just more having sex with chad
i see.

>>82108146
>Lonely virgin
>Noooooo I can't self-insert if hot, need loser like me.

>>82108096 (OP)
>Femgaze porn
>Fucking tits
>Hilda from Fire Emblem who stars in a lot of hentai
Yeah, femgaze porn for "females" who have an Y chromosome, it seems
The real femgaze porn is lemon
>t. stinky fujo

>>82108164
no, it's called being heterosexual. if you want to look at women there is an endless amount of male gaze content for you out there. stop ruining ours.

>>82108207
>Never read a female oriented smut magazine in your life
No anon, it's being a lonely loser who feels threatened by a self-insert that's too pretty you start to view as competition out of sheer jealousy. Normal people who actually have sex don't have that.
>Muh muh male gaze
Term invented by loser terminally online feminists who never had sex who just get deeply insecure whenever they see Stacy get chad.

>>82108244
fuck off retard. the last thing i want to see when i am horny is a woman. any woman. i just don't give a fuck about female faces, boobs and pussy. i don't want to see them. self insert female characters are supposed to be blank slates like men in porn. they don't have to be too pretty (which you would know if you actually read female-oriented smut lmao) and focusing on their bodies does nothing for us. that's what male gaze means. do you even know what you're talking about?

>>82108121
The male in male-oriented hentai is a non-descript, or just a normal-looking guy, because guys wish a cute girl would want them for being themselves. Women are weird and need both the male and female to be supermodels. Honestly, even the women in a lot of the hentai I read are just yamato nadeshiko types with normal proportions.

>>82108282
What's some of the female-oriented smut you're flicking it to so we can educate ourselves

>>82108096 (OP)
How is this femgaze

>>82108282
>self insert female characters are supposed to be blank slates like men in porn
Yes, lonely virgin lol, got it.
Thank god all the artists in the magazines I read clearly actually have sex and aren't a lonely virgin like you.

>(which you would know if you actually read female-oriented smut lmao) and focusing on their bodies does nothing for us. that's what male gaze means. do you even know what you're talking about?
Apparently not and you clearly never read such a magazine in your life while I read plenty.

Don't conflate female taste with pathetic lonely loser taste please.

>>82108288
Which is why they, so long as they be sexhavers anyway, are fucking based.
See above what happens when they be lonely virgins, then they suddenly get the same taste.

But yeah, that's what it's about, the pathetic shit of wanting to be loved for no reason opposed to wanting to read a story about characters who and are attracted to each other for a reason so you get a far more interesting dynamic. Faceless protagonists blow. I refer you to: >>82108121 again.
The demon lord is attracted to him from the start because in the first chapter he looks really cool and makes the noble sacrifice, holding down the army of daemons alone so his men can escape, knowing full well he can die which impresses the daemon lord who decides to capture him as a sex pet instead. It creates a dynamic rather than
>Muh bland self-insert loved for no reason
Fuck that shit.

That's not femgaze

>>82108321
not OP but post something that is. genuinely curious.

>>82108320
>being a straight woman is a lonely virgin thing
lmao sure. all sorts of male gaze content exists for you to enjoy, stop being butthurt about anything existing for women's viewing pleasure.

>>82108403
>Muh muh women's viewing pleasure
Again anon, you're wrong. Your entire assumption that "muh women all want to see faceless self-inserts of their own sex" is simply bullshit.

People who actually have sex enjoy a dynamic and interesting characters. Again, you never read one of those smut magazines. The only "straight women" who share your mentality are utter foreveralone loser virgins such as who feel threatened and jealous when they encounter a protagonist with an actual personality and an actual dynamic between the characters.

anons keep arguing in this thread but dont post anything. gib example pwease :C

>>82108334
>not OP but post something that is. genuinely curious
Something like that

>>82108434
>anons keep arguing in this thread but dont post anything. gib example pwease :C
Look at that then

>>82108434
I gave it and then referenced the post again anon.
Also, the only people who unironically use terms like "male gaze" and "female gaze" are in fact collosally virginal terminally online feminists to begin with. They use the term "female-targeted" in Japan and most of that stuff is full of what loser terminally online feminists who are only feminists because they can't get laid call "male-gaze" as in: pretty female characters with an interesting personality.

They basically invented a reality out of cope that their precious female allies supposedly hate that shit and then resort to weird logic like "muh brainwashed by society!" or whatever else copium when they're confronted with the reality that 90% of the people who buy those magazines are still female and that their theories that the average female is put off by that are just wrong.

If you read a magazine like Mobile Flower or whatever you're just going to get covers like this. Sucks to be them but in the end half of the chapters are from the perspective of the male character and the female character has a lot of personality and backstory and is pretty. The only people who want a faceless self-insert are pathetic losers who see interesting characters are competition.

>>82108486
Picture didn't attach, idk why

>>82108433
no, you are just a retard who thinks the male gaze media he jerks off to is female gaze. straight women are attracted to hot guys, not women, any type of woman. you don't give a fuck about dynamics, us women do.

>>82108500
>>82108504
And am I right or am I right when I say you are a virgin with no prospect of ever losing it?
Shit looks nothing like this when you actually read these smut magazines There's a reaso you're posting what looks like low quality twitter fanart that will never sell and I'm posting shit that sells and gets official licences for translations into French even.

>>82108522
Then why is the shit I'm posting selling buckets into magazines with 90% female readers and all you can post is fanart?

Have some sex first before you talk.

>>82108503
>cries about the term male and female gaze
>doesn't even know what it means

More actual covers of titles that got so popular they were licensed into other languages please. Makes the virgins seethe at the basic reality that only pathetic little loser permavirgins are threatened by hot members of their own sex.

>>82108552
You mean what ugly, pathetic little loser online feminists don't want it to mean.
At the end of the day it's just bullshit invented by ugly losers out of copium because they can't get laid. All the shit in smut magazines with 90% female readers is full of what they call "male gaze" and they're seething so hard at it with their copium explanations for it.

>>82108539
I am not a virgin, kek
I like looking at hot anime moids, don't want to see something that looks like out of generic waifu doujin.
The retarded op picrel shows titfucking. I gave them and it feels like nothing. It''s boring and it is to please men. The fanart barely shows the body of the guy

>>82108539
My nigga what you are posting is romance manga for women not hentai for women

>>82108539
you are a confused moid why are you here

>>82108577
>>82108568
No anon, they have explicit sex scenes.
This is also what you despite talking high and mighty don't get about normal female taste from people who actually have sex, that most of the porn is very plot based and that backstory and dynamic is important to create a good context rather than some faceless self-insert.

These are porn titles, many aren't even romance in nature and about fuckbuddies or even enemies.

>>82108096 (OP)
the only true femgaze porn is yaoi

Virgins still seething and can't post a single actually published commercial title and only Twitter art by fellow virgins. There's a reason your faceless self-insert shit doesn't sell.

>>82108604
I am a different person from >>82108577 and was mentioning the thread's picrel

>>82108628
That one is female gaze. I don't know what is your autistic obsession with calling others virgins. Hilda hentai with her giving titfucking to a moid that we can't even see his abs will never be female gaze

>>82108628
you are the most retarded tranny i have ever seen

>>82108288
>The male in male-oriented hentai is a non-descript, or just a normal-looking guy, because guys wish a cute girl would want them for being themselves. Women are weird and need both the male and female to be supermodels. Honestly, even the women in a lot of the hentai I read are just yamato nadeshiko types with normal proportions.

I don't think this is necessarily untrue, but I've seen both male and female oriented hentai that do both. I prefer when I feel like the female protagonist has a similar sort of look or averageness to me, but a pretty woman appeals to pretty much all genders, so I understand why it's common.

>>82108647
he is having a schizophrenic episode because i said straight women are attracted to hot guys and not women

>>82108629
Well I didn't post that picture, I wouldn't know where it comes from and what the entire plot is.
Still images don't say much to begin with is the point, it's about how the plot unfolds. The original picture also looks like amateur twitter art rather than an official commercial publication.

>>82108647
And yet it doesn't meet your criteria of a faceless protagonist as in:
>self insert female characters are supposed to be blank slates like men in porn
This is so not the case for the protagonist of The Princess of Ecstatic Island
So apparently not.
Also, these female porn mags sometimes even just have yuri titles in it so sucks to be you.

The point is that what you call
>female gaze
Isn't something that interests the majority of females, only the permavirginal subset thereof.

>>82108674
Yeah, plenty of moidporn with really interesting and good looking male protagonists too. It's really mostly that the utter virginal losers want a blank self-insert and feel threatened when the protagonist be too good looking more than anything. The difference is more so caused I feel by that males that go into drawn pornography tend to be losers far more often whereas with females it's the opposite. Female artists have really taken over the drawn pornography market.

>>82108692
that wasn't my post but my definition still stands. female gaze equals male objectification, cope and seethe. bringing up yuri out of nowhere is making you sound even more like tranny btw.

>>82108688
>Mad over being identfied as being a loser virgin
>Still can't post a single official commercial title that has the blank self-insert you want to much, only twitter fantart.
Your taste is utterly virginal.

>No male on any of the covers on this title ever, only the protagonist
>Still one of the absolutely most popular titles in &Flower
How will the permavirgin feminists cope and recover?

>>82108720
Doesn't change the fact that it's in there.
Apparently most females just don't care about what you call "female gaze" and it's just something made up by lonely seething angry feminists as cope.

The reality is that pretty much none of these porn magazines with purely female artists and 95% female readers conform to what you think "female gaze" is. It's a myth made up by lonely losers who project the taste of lonely losers onto their entire sex.

>>82108692
I don't care about your retarded magazines. I was saying that picrel is not female gaze and provided only two examples of female gaze. My issue is not with good looking shoujo esque characters. I don't care, I like shoujo a lot. You freaked out and called anyone a virgin. Why you can't accept that not every woman likes that shoujo adjacent hentai? I don't mind but if I had to read that or yaoi, guess what? I will read the ones with most hot bishounens and their hot bodies because I am straight, I like men and I like dicks

>>82108729
being heterosexual is virginal? no straight woman after having sex with a chad was ever like
>wow i think i love boobs now

>>82108743
Yeah and what you said was that all straight women like that stuff you call "female gaze" and want a plain faceless self-insert, that's just bullshit, the only people that want plain faceless self-inserts are colossal permavirgins.

This is what you said:
>fuck off retard. the last thing i want to see when i am horny is a woman. any woman. i just don't give a fuck about female faces, boobs and pussy. i don't want to see them. self insert female characters are supposed to be blank slates like men in porn.

That "any woman" wants to see blank slates in porn is just such colossal nonsense and saying "I don't care about your popular porn magazines that clearly disprove it" is not a counter argument but an admission of defeat.

The only people that want blank slates are colossal loser permavirgins. You haven't been able to provide me with a /single/ example of an actual commercially published title with a blank slate self-insert. I mean I know some, but they're rare, but do you know any?

>>82108786
>This is what you said
I didn't say that

>>82108784
And apparently it's all false because those magazines are full of it and people in the comment section when they review it talk about the designs of both the male and female character and comment on how pretty both are.

Your thesis you assume as fact is simply false. You keep saying that all heterosexual females are like that but it's evidently false. Which you would've figured out long ago if you actually touched grass instead of being a virgin stuck in your room. For people who actually have sex, interesting, good looking characters of both sexes are important. Same thing applies to males anyway, males who actually have sex are also tired of faceless self-insert males in their porn. They want good looking and interesting male protagonists because it makes the dynamic more credible.

>>82108796
One of you did and you defended it by engaging in discussion with me. My argument was always against that claim. Not my fault if you join the discussion later without reading back the context because it was always about that part and I was always pretty clear that I was talking about how liking faceless self-inserts is something only virgins do. I've hammered down that particular stance continuously so you should've known it was about that.

>>82108820
What are you talking about? I just provided two examples that anons asked, you are the retard who started calling me a virgin put of nowhere

>>82108096 (OP)
Some of it is good but in my experience the hentai is kinda boring. I prefer the written stuff.

>>82108786
>>82108810
>>82108820
i stand by everything i said. i never want to see women when i'm horny because i'm straight. you are clearly threatened by the female gaze because chad characters are making you feel insecure about your own ugliness kek

>>82108810
it's not that deep retard, we just love cock and balls. simple as. this fact remains the same whether a woman has sex or not.

>>82108786
>the only people that want plain faceless self-inserts are colossal permavirgins
The most popular form of porn for normalfag women is erotic literature, which provides no visuals for any characters only vague descriptions.
Also
>Has all the free time to read these Chinese picture books for women
>Expects us to believe he's getting laid
Get real AGP-kun. Virginity is nothing to be ashamed of.

>>82108820
I could take a thousands dicks and I would still be as uninterested as looking at women as when I was a virgin

>>82108863
Maybe you don't, because you're a permavirgin, but that has nothing to do with muh being a straight woman but with "being a colossal virgin".
You keep ignoring the thing you have no answer to: that pretty much no actual commercially viable female-targeted porn title conforms to what you claim supposedly "any straight woman" wants.

Again, can you even come with a single commercially published title that meets your criteria?

>>82108878
That's not the discussion, it's about wanting a faceless self-insert or not.

>>82108881
>The most popular form of porn for normalfag women is erotic literature, which provides no visuals for any characters only vague descriptions.
Not even sure it is the most popular, but that too doesn't have protagonists without descriptions. It typically retells their appearance, backstory and personality and all that.
Also:
>Ohh my god, anyone who reads some comic book magazines that come out twice per month can't possibly have any time to have sex... it's just not possible.
I guess virginity is also caused by lack of intellect.

>>82108932
the entirety of the yaoi genre

>>82108991
No, yaoi does not in fact typically have faceless female protagonists anon, that's a very weird thing to say. It tends to not have female protagonists at all.

You really can't name even a single commercially published title can you. I can, by the way because unlike you I actually read this shit, let me help you:

Picrel's protagonist has no personality, no backstory whatsoever before being isekaid, looks kind of plain-ish and somehow is still loved by everyone.

>>82108881
>It's an AGP tranny
That actually a explains a lot...

>>82108096 (OP)
imagine choosing Hilda over leone or marianne

>>82109087
what are you talking about? yaoi is absolutely an example to the female gaze. most commercially successful shoujo, visual novels, erotica has plain main characters that only exist to be a self-insert. my female gaze hentai either has all moids or faceless blank slate women that are as out of the focus as possible. i am not looking at your virgin loser mangas when i get horny. why are you so obsessed with them anyway? tranny behavior.

>Virgins still can't post a single commercially published title with a plain self-insert
Virgins blown the fuck out yet again. No sexhaver wants a plain self-insert. It's only a thing in amateur Twitter artists who can't get their work published commercially no matter their drawing skills because the editor will just say
>Ehh... our readers are functional human beings who'd just cringe at the sight of a plain self-insert we can't publish this kind of stuff.

>>82109321
no1curr stop shitting up the thread troon

"Female-gaze" porn is porn where a woman gets fucked violently by a guy who's like 2-3 times her size. They aren't capable of enjoying sensuality or intimacy like men are, they're wild animals.

>>82109319
>what are you talking about? yaoi is absolutely an example to the female gaze
Again anyone, the discussion was that supposedly any straight woman wants to see blank slate self-inserts. That's what I'm saying is bullshit, follow the discussion a bit will you.

>most commercially successful shoujo, visual novels, erotica has plain main characters that only exist to be a self-insert
Then I'm sure you can post even a single one because that's what you people keep not doing despite being asked.

>my female gaze hentai either has all moids or faceless blank slate women that are as out of the focus as possible

Then post a single commercially published title that does this. Why can't you do it if you say it's so common?

>i am not looking at your virgin loser mangas when i get horny. why are you so obsessed with them anyway? tranny behavior.

Anon, you just said you want blank slate protagonist so yeah, you are looking at virgin loser shit by your own claims. Only virgins want a blank slate protagonist.

Come with a single example of an actual commercial publication.

>>82109333
Wouldn't care either if I got disproven all the time but couldn't post a single exmaple

That faceless self-insert shit is almost purely amateur stuff posted on Twitter or Pixiv, not actual stuff that companies think they can make a profit out of because only permavirgins like you like it.

The scenarios are hotter, yes.
But the image draws attention to the male which is annoying and prevents me from finding it enjoyable.

>>82109321
You are the most retarded tranny I have ever seen
Not once has anyone of either sex ever felt ashamed cause the porn they like doesn't make money and is virgin core or whatever retarded point you are attempting to get across

>Permavirgins still can't post a single example of what they claim supposedly every straight woman wants that's actually commercially released.

Ugly loser feminists who will never have sex seething
>I SWEAR, EVERY WOMAN IS LIKE ME, IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I GET INSANELY JEALOUS WHEN I SEE AN ACTUALLY INTERESTING PROTAGONIST, IT'S BECAUSE I'M STRAIGHT I TELL YOU

Kek, virgins lol.

https://www.cmoa.jp/teenslove/
>Pretty much every title features the female character as prominently as the male one on the cover because it targets sexhavers
>NOOOOOOOOOO

>>82109399
>I... if I call someone a tranny out of nowhere then I'll definitely not show I'm a terminally online permavirgin.
Anon, trannies are an online only-spook, people who actually have sex never even heard of them or met one.

The point is that you claim that supposedly every straight woman has that taste. If that were the case it would sell.
The fact that all commercially viable titles aren't like that and it's only some obscure Twitter and pixiv artists that can't convert their interests into money shows that that's not the case.

Basic logic.

>>82109355
>Again anyone, the discussion was that supposedly any straight woman wants to see blank slate self-inserts. That's what I'm saying is bullshit, follow the discussion a bit will you.
no it's the truth, it's what i play with my pussy to.
>Then I'm sure you can post even a single one because that's what you people keep not doing despite being asked.
>Then post a single commercially published title that does this. Why can't you do it if you say it's so common?
because you are a retarded tranny and i am not sharing my fap material with you.
>That faceless self-insert shit is almost purely amateur stuff posted on Twitter or Pixiv, not actual stuff that companies think they can make a profit out of because only permavirgins like you like it.
are you too retarded to be able to tell the difference between porn for women and other girly media?

>>82109407
>>82109412
Basic logic is that you are retarded and are not going to convince anyone that you aren't a tranny writing these word salad posts out of spite towards people who did nothing to you

>>82109407
pretending the japs who read this virginal shit are all sex haver stacies is hilarious

>>82109433
we are attracted to hot guys with big dicks and not women which is deeply offensive to him/xer

>>82109443
I know right. In fact I'm a guy and his posts disgust me, but he can only comprehend the idea that his greatest enemy, le TERF who doesn't suck xer off without question can disagree

>>82109428
>no it's the truth, it's what i play with my pussy to.
Yes, you do, because you're a virgin.
If what you said were true then that kind of stuff would be commercially viable. In reality, commercially viable porn has interesting protagonists an the kind of stuff you fap to is only made by amateurs.
>because you are a retarded tranny and i am not sharing my fap material with you.
Ahahahahahha.
Okay, admission of defeat fully and officially accepted.
>I swear guys, it exists, I know so much but... I'm not sharing because you're a tranny.
Ahahahaha, do you actually expect this post to not obviously and immediately make you look like a desperate loser who clearly doesn't know a single case? You'd be less transparent if you just do what you normally do and just dodge the question and ignore it, ahahah. You can't be making this up.

>are you too retarded to be able to tell the difference between porn for women and other girly media?
I posted examples of porn anon. Those are porn magazines, commercial ones that sell and provide a living for their artists because what they make is actually popular.

>>82109433
Ahahaha no anon, the basic logic is that you have no counter argument whatsoever and are an obvious permavirgin who sees any remotely interesting character as competition.
>Muh, if I quote the term "basic logic" while ignoring the argument in its entirety, I can act like I have a counter argument
Buahahaha.
Your virginity sustains me so. Your lonely suffering fapping to uninspired porn while you will never actually have sex is joyous.

>>82109485
>Okay, admission of defeat fully and officially accepted.
Yoo great. You can leave now. Shoo :)

>>82109485
the chink crap you have been spamming is not porn and looks more virginal than anything i have ever shlicked to

>>82109499
hey anon. you are based. most of the titles you give i cannot find with proper translation. mind linking me something nice?

OHh, right on time by the way, I just got an email that the latest issue of &Flower is out and guess what's on the cover...
Oh no, oh no, a commercial porn [at least 75% of the shit in it anyway] magazine that actually sells and provides a living for its artists has in one of its flagship titles not a plain self-insert but an interesting protagonist who's solo on the cover... oh no... oh no... how will virgins recover from the fact that no one who actually has sex likes plain self-inserts?

how much femgaze /ss/ is out there

>>82109524
finally someone asking the real questions to derail all this schizo talk.

>>82109508
can you retards make your own thread and talk about this male gaze garbage there instead of ruining the female gaze thread like deranged trannies

>>82109507
>If I keep repeating its not porn then its not porn.
Anon, I already gave you an example off an explicit sex scene in one. All these titles have explicit sex scenes every chapter.
Here, have one from that title from &Flower I keep using as an example. This is from the last one. Literally every chapter has sex scenes like this.

You know what's the hilarious part. The only one that doesn't have sex scenes /every/ chapter is that one title that does have the faceless boring protagonist, lel.

>>82109539
you keep trying desperately to force me to give a fuck about female characters but i am about to fall asleep because i am heterosexual

>>82109524
I need this, most /ss/ goes all in on big tits and boobs

>>82109508
Almost none of it is translated I'm afraid.
I can give you some good ones that are though. Picrel is one of my absolute favorites. It's short, it's dumb, it's basically a better version of Maid-Sama! but with age gap and sex.
It's called Netsujo military
Some other good ones from those magazines that are translated:
>Douka, Nerawanaide
>I've never ever learned this
>Kukkoro Knight
>Coffee & Vanilla Black
>Usokon: Rose

>>82109538
No matter how much you keep repeating it, virgin, the only females that like your interpretation of "Female gaze" are colossal loser permavirgins like you. Sexhavers just get embarassed at faceless self-inserts and think it ruins the sex scene because it makes the dynamic uncompelling.

>>82109558
No anon, I just disporve your argument and you have nothing to say back because you're a virgin and virgins are idiots and too dumb to know how to get sex
>IT'S NOT PORN, I KNOW THIS DESPITE NEVER HAVING READ IT
>Ehh, every chapter contains explicit sex scenes like this
>Well.. then I'm just going to drop this line of argument and instead say:: YOU'RE JUST TRIYNG TO GET ME INTERESTED IN FEMALE CHARACTERS, I'M STRAIGHT YOU HEAR!

No anon, the issue is not that you're straight. Straight doesn't make people like faceless self-inserts, the issue is that you're an ugly colossal permavirgin who seethes at interesting characters.

Let the virgin shaming tranny be
No real femanon would come here to shame other weeb femanons for being... virgins with different taste in porn lol

>>82109572
not one female soul after having sex
>wow i want to ogle women's bodies now
if you were not a virgin, you would know that straight women want cock

>>82109565
dunno about /ss/ but Itou Hachi's work makes me go nuclear for lesbian loli stuff

>>82109594
>If If... I completely make a strawman then I can win the argument
ANon, no one in that post is talking about "oogling other female bodies" it's about wanting a plain faceless protagonist or not.

No one but the biggest loser permavirgins want that and you keep ignoring that all the titles that don't have plain protagonists commercially sell while your plain protagonist faceless selfp-insert shit is just pixiv fanart that will never sell.

No one wants plain hollow self-inserts except the biggest permavirgin losers like you.

>>82109610
>if I ignore the post that says the truth I can win the argument

>>82109620
Yeah, and 4+4=8 is truth too, it's just completely unrelated to the argument at hand.
You people are comical. You have absolutely no argument for your dumb retarded thesis and keep ignoring the undeniable argument that lies before you that this shit sells and what you like don't so no, it's not about being a "straight woman", it's just about being a pathetic loser.

Oh wait, do I again need to bring up the embarassing episode of:
>I know tonnes of titles, I realy do... I'm just not gonna share them with a tranny like you!
But I see you took my advice and went back to simply dodging the question again rather than that, because that was truly so desperate and pathetic it completely destroyed what little credibility you had remaining.

>>82109580
>>82109610
why would i think about other women when i'm horny

I wonder if any nonas here read Jinx

Might as well get to reading that latest issue of &Flower, hmm, good stuff, interesting protagonist, sells buckets.
All those straight women that buy mags like this must be seething at this totally not facless protagonist, oh wait, I forgot, it's not porn right?

Kek, virgins, always desperate to believe the entire world shares their virginal taste.

>>82108096 (OP)
Agreed. From what I've seen it's more intimate and romantic than the five-billionth faceless bald man with unrealistically huge dong creating bulges.

>>82109652
my craaazy crazy dumb retarded thesis that straight women are attracted to men and not women

>>82109654
Because normal human beings with normal social skills just don't like stories with faceless protagonists? There's a reason this trope is only employed in media targeting the most colossal virgins imaginable.

As for horny, sex scenes without a dynamic and context and a credible attraction just aren't very arousing, at least not to people who actually have sex.

>>82109652
>Yeah, and 4+4=8 is truth too, it's just completely unrelated to the argument at hand.
So let me get this straight, you're admitting to being a tranny. A tranny so bothered by the idea that women could be virgins with different preferences in porn, that you have wrote like 2 entire essays' worth of text doing your best to shame them. For no reasons besides that.
You are so. Utterly retarded

>>82109676
No, your dumb retarded thesis that they want faceless self-inserts.
Seriously, stop twisting the issue and putting words in my mouth, the discussion is about faceless blank self-inserts.

>>82109702
My thesis is that you should go back to posting bbc threads or whatever shit you actually get off to, tranny

>>82109695
>you're admitting to being a tranny
No, I denied it five times or something already.
>Let me get this straight
>Complete gibberish inferences that don't at all follow from the post
>YOU'RE THE RETARDED ONE
Ahh, virgins.
Also:
>so bothered by the idea that women could be virgins with different preferences in porn
Anon, I'm going to make this as simple as possible for you so even you can comprehend it. The only thing I'm saying is that it's not true that:
>Every straight woman wants a plain, faceless self-insert
That's it. Can you comprehend it in that form? The rest is just shit you made up.

>>82109710
>Once again blown the fuck out logically and has no counter argument
>Just... resorts to some other random new thing brought up that has no relation to what was said to have something to say back.

Man, men must really be attracted to intelligence after all that you're still a virgin give how straight you are. I see now what causes it.

>>82109702
>>82109719
you are butthurt about horny straight women preferring to look at men and not women because..?

Screw this idiot trying to prolong this "argument"
I'm gonna go goon to pixiv art because I'm cool

>>82109749
No, again, I just said that:
>Every straight woman wants a plain, faceless self-insert
Is false.

Can you at least make an attempt at reading?

>>82109759
No, because you're a socially inept permavirgin who has not and will never taste the warmth of another human being's flesh.

>>82109774
why did my objectively correct statement bother you so much if you are not a tranny?

>>82109789
Oh okay, I guess there's some backstory here.
I'm admittedly really biased because I have an absolute extreme hatred for plain protagonists in any type of fiction and anyone who likes them and wish painful death onto them all.

That's really entirely unrelated to porn. I just get uncontrollably angry whenever I see anyone defend them and in my head, I have tortured them all to death a thousand times already.

>>82109797
yet you cannot understand why a straight woman would have zero interest in looking at women when we are horny

>>82109814
I can understand why /some/ don't. Your claim is that /all/ don't and that's just empirically false evidently by the simple fact that plain protagonists are very rare in those porn magazines.

At the end of the day, most people like a compelling dynamic and compelling characters. Plain faceless self-inserts just make the sex scenes less interesting and arousing. You can't create an interesting dynamic between them that way, that's all.

>>82109797
>Tthe backstory is that I get irrationally triggered by something really stupid and inconsequential so I just had to ruin the whole thread

>>82110231
That retard derailed the entire discussion with his autism just because he can't stand hot husbandos

>>82110231
No anon, bland self-inserts ruin everything and everyone who isn't a colossal permavirgin complains about them everywhere.

At the end of the day, you're objectively wrong, bland self-inserts are very, very rare in female-targeted plot, you like it, because you're a socially inept virgin, not because you're straight. People with social skills want interesting characters and an interesting dynamic.

>>82108096 (OP)
What is "femgaze" beyond female_pov?

>>82110266
Oh no, anon, that retard will come and call you a virgin and derail the thread again

>>82110266
Only people who enjoy POV-porn are socially inept permavirgins.
The facial expressions of the protagonist are extremely important to create a good sex scene.

>>82110257
If you were reading the responses you get at ALL, you'd notice that I didn't dedicate a word of that post to "defending bland self-inserts." I'm calling you out for ruining the thread. For everyone.
For the very last time, you are retarded, probably psychotic too, and should be ashamed of yourself. Consider taking your meds

>>82110276
>Muh derail the thread.
Anon, you're literally whining about the original o.p. so you don't even care. And thus far, I'm pretty much the only one who's actually posted many titles so shut the fuck up.

Post some actual titles if you supposedly care about this thread but then again, you can't actually find any that meet your definition because not enough virgins for them to sell or something.

>>82110283
Then maybe you shouldn't reply to a post that says I hate bland self-inserts and then say it's a "dumb reason" and then claim
>NOO, I WASN'T DEFENDING BLAND SELF-INSERTS AT ALL.

Anon, you literally called it "Stupid and inconsequential" that I hated bland self-inserts, you defended bland-inserts so quit whining.

>>82110286
>Does his best to kill thread with endless autism rants
>"Post some actual titles if you supposedly care about this thread"
You're the one who put the thread on life support why would anyone want to clean up your mess for you?

>>82110300
It literally is stupid and inconsequential. Don't look at the porn you don't like you fucking mongoloid.

>>82110301
Yeah, by actually posting on topic titles you just don't like because they feature interesting characters rather than bland self-inserts

I'm perfectly on-topic, far more than you, I'm actually posting shit from actual foidporn magazines. You're just mad that given that it targets actual sexhavers rather than pathetic losers like you you don't like it and call it "derailing".

Have another one from the newest &Flower, it's really good:
>Splash image of course prominently describes and details their relationship because sexhavers are drawn to that kind of stuff
>Prominently lists it as mentally unstable girl x trash younger boy because sexhavers don't want plain self-inserts, they want an actual dynamic and characters
>Protagonist, however mentally unstable is still pretty
>NOOO, I SEEETHE, D... DO HETEROSEXUAL WOMEN REALLY LIKE THIS/ INTERESTING CHARACTERS? NOOOO, THAT IS MALE GAZE, NOOO, BLANDOS ONLY, ARE TRANNIES READING THIS OR SOMETHING? HOW CAN I SELF-INSERT WHEN THE PROTAGONIST ISN'T A LOSER LIKE ME?

stfu, you've contributed nothing to this thread but the disgusting smell of your virginity.

>>82110266
female gaze does not necessarily have to be female pov portrayals of sex, it can include solo male, gay sex etc

>>82110331
Yeah, so you do defend it. So where's that "I didn't dedicate a word of my post to defending it" now?

>>82110359
Every time I see thread pic, I want to punch the retard obsessing over virginity and shove the magazine into his ass so he can shut his fucking mouth

>>82110341
You argue much like my abusive drug addicted father when he is off his hit

>>82110286
Show me on the doll where the pov doujins touched you

>>82110266
Femalegaze means the man is sexualized in the way women enjoy

>>82110380
No counter argument again? Got it.
My my my. Men must be really attracted to intelligence to explain why you are and will die a virgin.

Here have another entirely on-topic image from my personal favorites you pathetic landwhale:

>>82110402
Yeah, yaoi is femgaze

>>82110410
Ignoring your dumb insults because I'm male I just have one question. Do you think yaoi with no female characters is femgaze or not? Because it literally doesn't have an "interesting woman protagonist" and you've been acting like anything without that is PERSONALLY offensive to you

Let's sum up all the great virgin opinions given in this thread:
>I haven't read this title, but it's not porn [when being pointed out that every chapter contains sex scenes like the example, just ignore that and tangent into something else]
>I swear guys, being straight means you must like bland self-inserts, just ignores the fact that the TL section on cmoa has like 95% of the covers feature both the male and female character with the same prominence
>NOO, I WASN'T DEFENDING BLAND SELF-INSERTS AT ALL, I JUST SAID IT YOU WERE STUPID TO LIKE THEM AND THAT THEY WERE GREAT
>Ehh... disproven? Oh I know TRANNY

>>82110490
I never defined "femgaze" and I don't care. I always said it's a dumb term invented by lonely virginal feminists.
I never said interesting protagonists are "female gaze" I said they are "sexhaver gaze" instead and that people who like bland self-inserts are mostly loser virgins; that's not a gender statement; that applies to males and females to the same degree; that's all.
Well, and most importantly the basic logical inference from that because these people are really bad at basic logic:
>The idea that all straight women want to see bland self-insert female characters is just blatantly, obviously, empirically and logically false, only the loser virginal subjection of that category does.
That's all.

>>82110503
Have you considered that no one came to this thread with the intention of defeating your epic arguments and instead just wanted to talk about porn they like
Pic rel (it's two women which is funny because you will never be one)
>>82110514
Oh okay. Can you describe how you lost your virginity if you're gonna deflect then, I'm quite curious about that as well

>>82110490
Oh, as an addition to that, boys' love can have interesting or non-interesting protagonists like anything else. Weirdly enough, bland self-insert protagonists are weirdly enough really common in boys' love which always puzzled me. Many of the protagonists there are so hollow and literally have no character description.

>>82110514
>I never defined "femgaze" and I don't care. I always said it's a dumb term invented by lonely virginal feminists.
Why are you even in this thread then you utter retard

>>82110535
Because he's a hater who must insert himself into spaces he doesn't like to ruin them. Many such cases but some are more determined to be a shitstain than others

>>82110528
>Have you considered that no one came to this thread with the intention of defeating your epic arguments and instead just wanted to talk about porn they like
They're sure as hell trying and they're failing.
Note that I'm the one actually posting porn, they aren't.
But no, they came into this thread to spread their virginity gospel about how essential bland protagonists are, and they're mad that I point out to them that only virgins think that.
>Oh okay. Can you describe how you lost your virginity if you're gonna deflect then, I'm quite curious about that as well
It's no "deflection" anon to point out I never made that claim. You were under the impression that I thought "interesting woman protagonist" was "female gaze". I in fact never used the term "female gaze" outside of pointing out how dumb the term was and that it was invented by loser virgin feminists. I only talked about that only loser virgins want a bland self-insert, that's all. I in fact haven't talked about gender much at all, mostly about virgins vs. non virgins.

I actually literally don't remember to whom and how I lost my virginity but truth be told I wouldn't say anything about my sex life even if I did remember it, like what, you want a description or something? Obviously not going to happen.

>>82110535
I'm in many threads shitting at virgins. This is like saying I can't go into some incel thread and disagree with them.
I would just be posting porn if you hadn't come with your virgin gospel.

>>82110550
Damn straight I go into virgin spaces to shit on virgins.
You people deserve every bit of suffering you have coming for you. This ind of stuff really shows how you're virgins due to your own mentality. If you like bland self-inserts you clearly show you don't care about plots or people and have no normal human social abilities and that's why you're a virgin.
You deserve your fate of never knowing human intimacy.

>>82110580
>I'm in many threads shitting at virgins. This is like saying I can't go into some incel thread and disagree with them.
Self-hatred is a sad thing

>>82110595
>No u.
Very strong argument when you have none.
Anon, shitting on virgins on the internet is nothing remarkable, you're just mad because you're the victim now and because you deluded yourself that your virginal taste is "straight woman" taste and it probably starts to dawn on you know due to all the undeniable evidence that the 99% of the "straight woman" population that does have sex in fact does not like bland self-inserts and that makes you mad.

>>82110580
>>82110591
>>82110611
So you're either a whore who's fucked dozens or a self-hatred fueled virgin who is lying their ass off. Not a good look either way bud
>I wouldn't tell you if I did remember how I lost my virginity!
It's an anonymous website, and considering how proud you are for allegedly NOT being a virgin, you'd have no excuse to withhold that information

>>82110611
>I spend all my time arguing online and reading porn b-b-but I'm not a virgin I swear
Lol

Hey passionate "good smut4women" anon. Thx for the recommendations. They're damn good.

>>82110632
>So you're either a whore who's fucked dozens or a self-hatred fueled virgin who is lying their ass off. Not a good look either way bud
Only virgins hate whores, and yeah, I'm fairly promiscuous.

>It's an anonymous website, and considering how proud you are for allegedly NOT being a virgin, you'd have no excuse to withhold that information

Anon, you describe in great detail the last time you had sex then?
Anonymous or not, it's awkward okay to just put that on a board, anonymous or not.

>>82110634
>Spend all my time.
Pulled out of you arse.
>Y... you do something that... almost everyone does so... YOU SPEND ALL YOUR TIME ON IT.

Everyone consumes porn once in a while anon.

>>82110640
You misapprehend, I am not passionate about "goodsmut4women". I just hate bland self-inserts and the virgins that like them with a passion.

That one was really good at the start but got milked to shit now and the plot is going nowhere. But I'm always a big fan of rapey younger boys.
Too bad it's cousins and not just siblings though.

>>82110640
Also, I wish he always looked like on this picture I guess. This is the prettiest panel of him in it. Just the entire mood he radiates too. I want a title where the love interest normally looks like that and turns on a switch and becomes super rapey in bed.

>>82110706
>Everyone consumes porn once in a while
>once in a while
>once
Uh...yeah anon lol
>Only virgins hate whores, and yeah, I'm fairly promiscuous.
also what? i love sluts they are the coolest, what's this myth that because i don't fuck i have to hate x group of people? thats fucking retarded

>>82110741
>Uh...yeah anon lol
Yeah, and you just pull the idea out of your arse that I spend all my waking moments reading porn.

>also what? i love sluts they are the coolest, what's this myth that because i don't fuck i have to hate x group of people? thats fucking retarded
I mean you just said it wasn't a good look but maybe that was someone else.

Also, I should qualify, when I say that I'm "promiscuous" I mean I sleep with a lot of my friends. I don't think I ever once had sex with someone I wasn't fairly good friends with and that is the last thing I'm going to say about my personal life because I think it's shit uncomfortable.

>>82110772
It's very uncomfortable that you enter this thread to say things like >>82109797 maybe you should leave?

>>82110784
>Wow anon, describing the intimate details of your sex-life is totally the same as saying you believe everyone who likes plain self-inserts is awful.
This is why you're a virgin by the way.

>>82110772
Im a different guy by the way
I know we virgins are a dime a dozen its ok ma'am/sir settle down
>arse that I spend all my waking moments reading porn.
Huh? I was saying ME specifically I watch porn relentlessly.
I'm an asexual by day gooner by night
>it wasn't a good look
why wouldn't it be a good look? sluts and promiscuous people are basically gods in this day an age. I literally have to lie everywhere i go to avoid ridicule????
>last thing I'm going to say about my personal life
why are you telling your life story nigga? i didnt ask for that shit i just want to have stupid discussions i can't have in real life and call people niggers or faggots occasionally

>>82110817
ok don't care I will keep drawing sexy pov porn that lacks a developed protagonist :D

>>82110706
>Everyone consumes porn once in a while anon.
Yet you're the only one who has been able to name dozens of different porns while most actual women can just post fan art they found on gelbooru. You put so much thought into your porn consumption it's obvious you've devoted an inordinate amount of your time to it.

>>82108125
porn dialogue is always cringe

>>82108503
>>82108539
>>82108566
>>82108628

why is it the same cover every time?
I swear 95% of the shoujo/josei romance covers I see are just some 7 foot tall twink with bony hands predatorily embracing a visibly uncomfortable fl
are women capable of originality?

>inb4 borderline incomprehensible ESL yapping about how I'm a lonely virgin incel

>>82110919
Don't care about that, do as you will.
As long as you're not going around saying that everyone shares your taste or it's about being "heterosexual"; it's not.

>>82111038
No it isn't anon. &Flower comes out once per week, around 270 pages, keeps you busy for half an hour, has about 10 titles in it each week.
Read that magazine alone for a year and you probably have come across at least 50 different titles.
It's just really stupid. I've posted like what, 9 titles in this thread? Doesn't remotely mean one spends every waking hour on porn at all, reading a magazine that comes out once every two months with 10 titles each time for a year is enough for that.

It's just some dumb maths.
The reason they can't post shit is because, as said, they only have some random things on Twitter or whatever that don't actuallt commercially sells because not enough people share their virginal taste for it to actually be bankable.

It's like saying that just because I can name 8 different sitcoms I must spend my entire waking life watching sitcoms, no that's dumb.

>>82111143
No, that has nothing to do with virginity, it's a valid criticism and it's true. It's very formulaic

Also, because it's my taste obviously. I like rapey younger boys so yeah though they're not all younger there but definitely rapey.

But they're all porn covers so you can't do much. You can't show actual nudity on the cover I guess so they all sort of end up looking like that.

I still get intereste or not interested based on covers though so they're still different in their own way.

>>82110919
Ultimately based. I love Stacy yumejos
>>82111038
That's a gooner with no life and is self projecting. That's the difference, we can look at some pov fanart and move on but he only accepts a certain kind of porn and insists on calling everyone a virgin, it's like his version of Chris Chan calling everyone he dislikes jerks kek

>>82111161
>It's like saying that just because I can name 8 different sitcoms
And if you routinely checked Sitcoms Weekly Magazine and spent all day arguing in a thread about sitcoms. Yes I would say you're a virgin who spends too much time thinking about sitcoms. Not even regular sitcoms but sitcoms for women because you're a tranny.

>thats not femporn
theres a femporn general on /h/ and its all stuff like OPs pic

>>82111222
>And if you routinely checked Sitcoms Weekly Magazine
Oh no, if you read some magazine that comes out every week and keeps you busy 30 minutes when it comes out you must spend all your waking hours on it.
No, it's a stupid argument anon.
>and spent all day arguing in a thread about sitcoms.
Anon, I spend as much time arguing in this thread as they: the difference is that I'm destroying them with arguments and citations because I actually know what I'm talking about and they don't have a single piece of evidence to stand on.

>Yes I would say you're a virgin who spends too much time thinking about sitcoms. Not even regular sitcoms but sitcoms for women because you're a tranny.
No anon, your argument is entirely retarded and logistically in terms of time doesn't add up and you're just looking for a "no u" to say back because you don't have an actual argument, because well, your position is entirely indefensible and obviously false.

The idea that all "straight women" want plain self-inserts is just obviously false, I've shown that undeniably, but because you can't actually come up with an argument back and are mad for being called out on your virginity you need to have some kind of "no u" to say back so reading a magazine once per week becomes "Muh muh every waking moment of your day" which really logistically in terms of sheer time makes no sense.

>femgaze
>male gaze

>>82111281
That /h/ thread too is filled with pathetic loser virgins. I've seen it. It's generally terrible.

>>82111281
Then it's porn for "women"

>>82111286
>Words words words
Ok virgin.

>>82111379
I would believe that a virgin autist would obsess and insult everyone over something he dislikes than people commenting that they like fempov hentai

>>82111281
because trannies invade those threads, op is clearly male gaze
>>82111322
you just think anything that depicts sexy men is terrible because you are a moid who will never understand the straight female psychology