Thread 82118521

My friends are men, their friends are men, my sports group is just men.
At work? Theyre all married. At church? Its just old people.

>>82118521 (OP)
You're supposed to just know women through your friend group. You do have a large friend group of both women and men, right anon? You shouldn't be having a crisis of not knowing where to meet people in the first place. You should have made friends as a child in school and used the inertia and connections from those relationships to make new ones.

>>82118543
I was in boys school until hs, in the we i went to youth mouvements that were men only.
I do have friends i met around but theyre all guys and only know guys

OP they mean don't approach them in those place if you're not CHAD. For CHAD it's fine

>>82118521 (OP)
>At work?
That's where I got mine.

>>82118558
I find it doubtful that every single person from your elementary/middle school and everyone they knew and got to know since then is incel. What happened in high school? Why didn't you meet any girls then? Why didn't your friends meet any girls then?

>>82118521 (OP)
I think the real question is why you would even want to be around or with women. They are insufferable to spend time with generally speaking.

>>82118521 (OP)
imagine paying attention to what women say
do you also pay attention to what 12y olds tell you?
women are perpetual children anon.

>>82118558
in a similar boat as this anon but i lost all contact with my high school friends after i left
now i'm halfway across the country and i don't know basically anyone

>>82118521 (OP)
I have no idea either, anon.
I go to the park once a week and no foids give a shit.

>>82118599
>single person from your elementary/middle school and everyone they knew and got to know since then is incel
Idk a bunch of people that i jnow got married but their found their wives in those fancy catholic evening parties back hs and i kinda failed there because i danced like shit, was ugly and because my rank in the youth movement was very high which usually serve as a proof of merit.
The rest are single from what i know
>What happened in high school?
It was a men hs
>Why didn't you meet any girls then?
It was a men hs and in the we i was scouting which in my country is a paramilitary men only structure
>Why didn't your friends meet any girls then?
Idk i havent asked them. I think if you just live your life normally without explicitely trying to meet girls you wont meet any

tiktok. curate your page with your interests + dm people until you find a girl near you

You are not supposed to go meet women, you are supposed to let women come approach you and look for you (this does not happen and never will)

>>82118521 (OP)
just go gay, bro

>>82118521 (OP)
Find new social groups qoth women your age in them. A gameshop's game night for example.
Also some of the listes places arw bs

>>82119036
Would an outdoor group count?
I am in one but its mostly men

>>82118587
>That's where I got mine.
Nice tits!

>>82118521 (OP)
Break into womens houses or something i don't know.

>>82119036
>Find new social groups qoth women your age in them
I tried this but the ones for my interests are male only or filled to the brim with waiting lists till next year.
I tried to join a bookclub, not even for women, and all of them were full lol

>>82118543
Disingenuous piece of shit, not everyone has had the privilege to have even a single friend in high school. Some people are born lonely, raised lonely, then let loose in society lonely. I wasn't given any friends at any point in my life.
>You should have made friends as a child in school
That's the most dishonest thing I've ever heard. "You should have acted like an adult as a child". Fuck off, kill yourself.

>>82118521 (OP)
That entire list was made up by virgins who are too scared of rejection to approach women in public.

Why would a woman work/study/read in a coffee shop when they could do it more efficiently at home? They are hoping a guy will find them.

Becoming an avatarfag on /r9k/ and hoping a strange woman wants to e-date is probably, unironically your best option.

>>82119217
>They are hoping a guy will find them.
A guy but not me

>>82119217
women who are seriously expecting guys to approach them at a coffee shop are always the biggest normie superficial vapid women you can imagine. no wonder they're looking for "guys with a personality" to compensate for their lack of one

>>82118521 (OP)
>approach women
Who the fuck does this? I'm convinced it's a psy-op at this point, you just know women from your social circle and you start dating, normalfags have friends and that's how they find people.

If I weren't a firm believer of the ol' "don't shit where you eat" I would have given the 43 yo old lady from hr the dicking she was asking for.

>>82119070
>Would an outdoor group count
I found a LARPing group via facebook that met in a forrest once a week and there were planty of girls with simillar interests there(anime, rpgs etc.) A lot of people got coupled there.
>>82119117
>I tried this but the ones for my interests are male only or filled to the brim with waiting lists till next year
Damn. Try finding groups via social media. Maybe a ttrpg group (they're always looking for new players) or something if that's your thing.
I don't use social media anymore and lost connection with my feiends since then so idk where to point you specifically.
Good luck!

>>82119314
Its not a larping griup but rather an outdoor sports group. Ive been attending this one weekly for almost 2 years, havent seen a woman there yet.
I have a friend in a roleplaying group but hes telling me its almost exclusively male

>>82119217
No women legit dont want to get hit on in public ESPECIALLY not but the type of people who browse 4chong

>>82119253
Rejecting women before even talking to them, just so you can avoid getting rejected. Classic incel cope.

>>82119360
I'm sure you have TONS of experience with women to be making that argument.

>>82119443
if a woman is expecting you to do all the approaching, all the talking, all the initiating, then she literally has no personality. she's just a black hole siphoning everything you send at her. like other anons have said, you meet women with actual personalities from social circles, if you weren't spoonfed a social circle from a young age then you have to do the agonizing work of finding or creating one yourself

>>82118521 (OP)
Somebody post the one where that Chad carjacked a foid and she fell in love with him.
Or the "I fell in love with my bfs killer". "Where are you supposed to approach women" is the wrong question. "What are you supposed to be" when you approach is the question.

>>82118521 (OP)
Or the one where the girl was with her dad and a guy robbed her dad and she felt bad that she wanted to give the guy her pussy. No more dishonesty about what makes a girl hot and bothered.

>>82119498
Most normalfags who dated in their social circle ended up dating ugly-ass women. Like you and most other incels, they were too scared to approach beautiful women, and they settled for the 200lb slampig who made it easy for them.

Beautiful women will always expect a man to approach. Men who are too scared to approach a woman aren't dominant enough to be their protector.

>>82119347
We would fight with swords and perfect outfits and props. It was mostly male at first, then the cosplayers found us and a hugh surge of women came into the group. So it took a while. My brother found a gf there and has been with her for years.
>an outdoor sports
Idk much about sports I am more into nerdy things hehe. What kind of sport? There are definatly sports that appeal more to women then others (swimming and tennis comes to mind).

A convention is also a good place to find groups, friends and women.
The thing is, you are more likely to get a girl from a social circle rather then cold-approaching them. They feel safer, you already have report and are familiar.

>>82119569
lol somehow you have an even worse incel mentality than me. i go outside dude, i see couple after couple of beautiful women with ugly or average guys, and every time i hear how they met up it's always "we randomly met" or "it just happened". they don't have to try, no one should have to try or manipulate their way towards a relationship. unless you're incel enough to admit that you believe all women want to be manipulated? there's women like that, maybe more than half of all women are like that, but there's exceptions to the rule. i know because i've seen them, i was just not fortunate enough to be at the right place at the right time.

If you have a dominant attitude and the physical potency to back it up, you're eligible to be loved and fucked no matter how you approach. If you approach without the above, you are only eligible to fight and ass-kiss to be a betabux supplier simp. But the federal government stepped in and gave her the betabux through collecting taxes so that now the betabuxer doesn't even get any gravy for the added work that the foids costs him.
Welcome to clownworld, enjoy your stay.

> i go outside dude, i see couple after couple of

This is the equivalent of "my friend's got a Civic that will blow the doors off a corvette". A few datapoints do not disprove the overwhelming amount of opposing evidence of the blackpill, even if you aren't lying about seeing so many sexy women dating ugly guys.
You bored ragebaiter's days on 4chan are numbered. It's time to get a new hobby.

>>82119613
He woke up and decided to speak just the truth

>>82119605

It's Friday night. Go to any bar. See all the beautiful women? They're there for one reason and one reason only. It's not for the overpriced drinks.

You're on /r9k/ vomiting incel slop. The chances that you talk to random couples who tell you how they met is less than zero.

>>82119658
Nta but
>It's Friday night. Go to any bar. See all the beautiful women? They're there for one reason and one reason only. It's not for the overpriced drinks
Me and my friends once observed a night long conga line of dudes walk up to this group of women to ask them to dance only for them to reject every guy that came up to them. It was really funny.

>>82119217
>Why would a woman work/study/read in a coffee shop when they could do it more efficiently at home?
They don't have home duh.
People are are living in coffee shops don't have a place they can call home.

>>82119697
Literally one of the most low-value ways to approach a woman.

The only way to approach a woman is to go directly up to her and tell her that she's the most beautiful woman you've ever seen.

>>82119643
bro i literally just got done complaining that most women don't have a personality, see >>82119498. the blackpill is true but only to a degree, there are exceptions to the rule. there's an autistic woman out there who thinks chad and dominant personalities are the cringiest shit ever, maybe she lacks a social circle like you. it's not easy having high standards and going for quality over quantity, but it's worth it on the mere basis that you're living according to your principles and not settling for the 200lb slampig you mentioned earlier.
>>82119658
they're there because their friends and/or boyfriend is there. i still lack a social circle despite going to bars once a week for 2 years straight, but i've gathered enough acquaintances to know how people actually get together. it's always accidents upon accidents. i went to a few parties, saw people talk to each other and next thing i know a week or so later they're a couple. i ask them how they met and what do you know: "we just sort of talked to each other". even married couples will tell you how they met "in such a stupid way". i don't know a single story of a couple saying "he approached me". just like >>82119697 is saying, any time a man has to bend the knee in any way shape or form for a woman, the woman is instantly turned off. the only way is to be on a leveled playing field, social circles are a prime example of that. everyone just talks together, there's no one trying to do something special to 'get' someone, that's why people get coupled without even trying. nothing feels forced, nothing feels unnatural. that's real life, and if you want a relationship you have to have the friends that come along with it.
pic unrelated

>>82119775
>and tell her that she's the most beautiful woman you've ever seen.
That is a lie though.
Didn't your parents taught you that lying is bad?

>>82119775
>tell her that she's the most beautiful woman you've ever seen
You sound like my boomer dad trying to give me advice. How's that working out for you? I'm assuming not great since you're still stuck on /r9k/.

>>82119461
No but thats why all of my coworkers and my sisters say

>>82119775
>>82119805
Don't forget to look her in the eyes and give her a firm handshake

>>82119601
Hiking, camping and random outdoor/survival stuff. I dont think women participate to those. My area has little to no convention. Theres like one every year and its anime and is always mostly high schoolers.
Yeah i get that the issue is my friends group is just men

>>82119658
>Friday night. Go to any bar.
Its just old people and alcoholics, i went to afterworks yesterday but the women there are waiting for their friends and dont want to get bothered by weirdos

>>82119808
Your coworkers and sister are probably ugly af. Women who don't get approached will say that approaching is bad. Pic related.

>>82118521 (OP)
how do you approach women when she is at her car?
You mean like ramming into them?

>>82119880
No thats the opposite, one of my coworker on particular has even client try to hit on her and her linkedin inbox has hundreds of messages.
No women wants to be bothered when shes outside doing stuff

>>82119805
Why do you think women comment on each other's photos saying "OMG GORGEOUS!!!"

Why do you think women spend hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars on their hair and makeup?

Women know that their beauty is everything. It's the only thing that gives a woman value. And most men aren't telling women how beautiful they are.

And most women, even tens, are going to think that they're ugly. So telling a woman she's beautiful right away will turn her on immensely.

>>82119832
>Hiking, camping and random outdoor/survival stuff
Oh I see. Yeah women don't usually go for that but it's a good hobby and can make you buff (I like camping, too). You could also ask a girl out on a hiking trip (after you know her for a while*) and not look like you don't know what you're doing.
>Theres like one every year and its anime and is always mostly high schoolers.
How old are you, anon? I've seen 16/17/18yo girls go with 20-30yo guys in cons (though it depends on how you see it).
A good thing to try is being part of the staff of the convension (volunteer) so you have something to do and interact with the adults of the con and build report with them, get into the con production crowd.

>>82119922
Unless it's CHAD, then it's ok

>>82119947
Women are being told they're beautiful every single day of their lives, you entry-level incel. But let's say you're right: What then? You just compliment them over and over? Clearly not, so you have to force some off-the-wall conversation with them so that... What exactly? Why am I even talking to this girl? Don't you see how much easier it would be if you just were in a social circle? You could compliment her as much or as little as you want and you'd have no need to force any conversation, it'd all be done for you because it'd be being done for everyone including her. Every pick-up artist guide fails because picking up women does not work. Even the most effective strategy of "compliment her but in a funny way" fails most of the time. Social cohesion is EVERYTHING, work on that and everything else will be taken care of for you,

>>82119989
That should be your first clue that telling a woman she's beautiful holds value in seducing a woman. If she's being told it every single day, it's probably a big fucking deal. It doesn't mean that she believes it.

A guy can lift weights every single day, be more jacked than 99% of people at the gym, and get tons of compliments from guys, but he'll still think he's small.

Until a woman he's interested in tells him how muscular he is. Then everything changes.

It's the same with women. Compliments matter when they come from someone you're genuinely attracted to.

After you tell her she's beautiful, you'll know right away if she's interested. Ask her name. Offer to buy her a drink. After that, it's smooth sailing. She knows you want to fuck her. She's going to talk, and talk, and talk, and it's your job to listen. You won't have to try.

>>82119949
25.
I way too old for that and theres barely any event where i live from what coworkers have told me they just work then go home

>>82120076
>After you tell her she's beautiful, you'll know right away if she's interested.
They arent interested. I dont live inthe US the only people bothering womenwhen they go have their night out are arabic immigrants and theyre not successful either.
Women dont want to be bothered by uggos and creeps period. Also you can tell a girl is interested in you just by looking and no girl was ever interested in me

>>82120076
>After you tell her she's beautiful, you'll know right away if she's interested. Ask her name. Offer to buy her a drink. After that, it's smooth sailing. She knows you want to fuck her. She's going to talk, and talk, and talk, and it's your job to listen. You won't have to try.
ah yes, the sex haver has gone on /r9k/ to enlighten us mere incel mortals. bro just spit out the larp greentext story already, and make sure to omit the fact you're 6'+ and conventionally attractive to fool desperate anons into believing you

>>82119922
They don't want to be bothered by men who are low-value. So men who don't have jobs, are fat, and don't have a life outside vidya are going to be a nuisance.

So 99% of /r9k/.

>>82120124
5'8" and bald. I do, however, have a decent salary, work out (a lot), and am involved in extracurriculars in a large city.

That's all you need to make women happy that you approached them.

I know that disqualifies most of /r9k/, but the barrier isn't height, face, or 6 figure salary.

>>82120129
Op here, i am 186, have an office job (albeit a shit one), and as i said above i hike and camp every weekend.
Thats nearly not enough for women but you are right though women dont want 99% of men to interact with them.
So i am basically too shit of a person to date. I cant really reroll

>>82120235
It's because you don't approach women.

>>82120081
25 is young! A lot of nerds are that old nowdays.
There is no magic trick, you'll have to throw yourself into a situation where you need to talk to girls, even just for experience. If all else fails, use dating apps (that's how I got my gf) although, it'll take time and a lot of emotional effort (filtering girls, convos that go nowhere etc.)
Good luck!

>>82120267
Because they dont want to be approached/bothered especially not by me.
Youre not supposed to hit on women in the street or in bars.

>>82120209
i'm 6'1 but i have alopecia making me look like i have cancer, i'm autistic and unemployable, i don't work out and i don't have anywhere to go in my city other than the bar i'm already used to sitting alone at. you were 100% given something that you didn't have to work for, yet you're giving advice as if you worked for it. you never had to live your entire childhood alone. you never had to start from truly nothing. i've been trying for 2 years and i've never gotten anything but proof that i'm doomed. i went out of my way to talk to so many people, i have so many acquaintances, still not a single friend. yet people tell me i'm endearing, the liars. i'm literally not doing anything wrong, i'm doing everything correctly like the next normie and even better, but because the only way to have friends is to be spoonfed them then i'm fucked. if you're not born with the privilege of a normal social life, you're dying alone.

>>82120274
>into a situation where you need to talk to girls
Theres none around me thats the issue.
I am already on dating apps. Ive never gotten a single real (nonbot) match.

>>82120310
>Theres none around me thats the issue.
Location can be a problem. I live in a big city so idk what it's like. Sorry, anon.
>I am already on dating apps.
It's a journey going on dating apps. There's A LOT of bullshit. You should change your pics regularly and try to appeal to the type of girl you want on your profile (focus on one type, don't try to appeal to all women, it'll never work and you'll get matches you are not interested in or won't be happy to be with if at all). For me, after a year of filtering girls, chatting about nothing, being ghosted and having plans canceled (and finding some girl-friends that were cool for a while), I found a cute neet shut-in girl that is fun to be with and actually cares about me. It took a lot of emotional effort but is the solution if you don't have girls near you irl. Your expectations and standards are also a factor. I've had relative success with my looksmatchs, maybe +1 above me on the scale, and I don't care about body count (as long as they are loyal).

>>82118521 (OP)
Oh man this bitch on tiktok completely panicked when some guy approached her at her car even though it was middle of the day with other people around. She literally made a video in the middle of it to catch him in the act but he doesn't even disrespect her kek.

>>82120310
Also try different apps, differet people go for different apps. I was banned from Tinder for abusing their algorithem. I found mine on Boo (which is marketed for nerds). But had success on Hinge as well. For referance, i'm short and have social anxiety and mental illness.

>>82119217
Stop eye raping women with your ugly face

>>82119551
I'm not doing any extremely illegal shit for some pre fucked mids

>>82118521 (OP)
Go to a book store

>>82119569
>Men who are too scared to approach a woman aren't dominant enough to be their protector
Women have too much extra weight bitchiness and dick on them to still be demanding protectors like we're still bashing them on the head and dragging them to caves. Only in the novels.

>>82118543
unironically this. women are by default more reliant on group dynamics and social structures than men. so already the pool of women that might find and consider you is very small, but there's also way more looking for these women, you're doubly fucked.

>>82119003
I think I've got no other choice...

>>82119003
>>82120721
i asked r9gay about this and they were pretty pissed off with the idea and basically we'd be bad persons for going gay because there's no other choice

>>82120865
Ok but what if I can suck a mean dick

It's all just bullshit.
Approaching a woman at a museum? "Why are you approaching me here? I'm just trying to enjoy the art!"
Approaching a woman at a bar? "Why are you approaching me here? I'm just trying to enjoy my drink!"
Approaching a woman at school or work? "Are you really approaching me here? I'm just trying to learn / earn money!"
Approaching a woman after talking for a while? "So you were just PRETENDING to be platonic with me, but all along you thought I was hot? That's so manipulative!"
Approaching a woman early on? "You're seriously approaching me when you don't even know me? How horny are you!?"
It's just bullshit. There's always some justification for shaming, but it comes down to getting punished for not being hot enough. That's all it is.

>>82119217
They want CHAD will find them. They get angry if it's an average or a below average guy.
>>82119461
A lot of guys experience getting screamed at and shamed just for shooting their shot, that's how they come to these conclusions.

>>82121022
>A lot of guys experience getting screamed at and shamed just for shooting their shot, that's how they come to these conclusions.
Huh? But that doesn't correspond with my worldview!
And since I can't be wrong, I'm sure they were just being creepy.

>>82118521 (OP)
Such a shame the entire world has only one church, one sports team, and one workplace.
If only OP had legs so he could move.
OP sounds like the kind of guy who goes fishing for hours in exactly the same spot, never catches anything, then blames the entire hobby instead of god forbid looking elsewhere. Then when someone else points out he's trying to catch fish out of a 5-gallon bucket or a septic tank, he gets defensive.

>>82121043
I know you're joking, but women even openly admit to it. They genuinely believe that being approached by a man who they don't find attractive is a form of misogynistic abuse.

>>82121055
Women in general are like this, it's not about specific populations. They're lookists who find it infuriating that men other than chad are sexual beings with sexual desires.

What I don't really get is this insinuation that beautiful women are just going to be at these public places, somehow by themselves and not with a friend or partner, like static NPCs in a videogame. Forget the whole approaching thing, because it's retarded. Has anyone here ever tried to "time" going to a certain place hoping a girl you like will be present the same time you are? It's a hellish feeling, because you don't even have a frame of reference. Or going to a college party with a different group than you're used to. At some point it's just gambling, except even if you "win" and find someone cute that's like step 1 of 20 on getting a first date.

Who knows, maybe when Generation Beta grows up in 2040 they'll skip all this bullshit and just go up to each other and ask what their horny level is on a scale of 1 to 10. We'll just revert back to primal retardation since the whole "find your soulmate using Google Maps" thing didn't pan out so well.

>>82118604
If everyone on this board could spend 1 week in a serious relationship with a woman they'd never complain about being single again, they'd just be grateful to go back to their vidya and anime without constantly being shit tested

>>82121207
my ex had mild bpd and we lived in a studio appartment for 9 months. i'd gladly go back to that than keep rotting alone