You have to choose
>your hair
>your testosterone

>>82136613 (OP)
Finasteride does not affect overall Testosterone levels.

>>82136613 (OP)
Testorene
It affects so much more than you realize, anons

Fuck hair, who gives a fuck about hair?
>inb4 wo-
You listen to women? You'd bend over for them and do whatever they ask you to do?
You're all pussywhipped

>>82136632
i like my hair because I wanna like how I look when I look at myself in the mirror

>>82136629
DHT is the biologically active and most potent androgen

>>82136613 (OP)
If it raped my T levels, I'd still pick hair
Balding = death

>>82136637
fembrained
you're going to be my concubine now, boy

>>82136640
this meme is gross and misandrist
>>82136645
ok i dont mind :3

>>82136647
>this meme is gross and misandrist
The world is misandrist, and we have to live in it

>>82136613 (OP)
it wasnt working for me even with minoxidil it was just barely holding on. so i went nuclear and took estrogen (dont consider myself a tranny, trust)
that was 3 years ago and while my hair is the most full its been since i was 18, a lot of people think i look way younger than i am. i was at the dentist the other day and the assistant asked for my parents to sign a consent form until the other dentist told him i was 24. i have my hair back tho so its whatevs to me

>>82136613 (OP)
Hair. Testosterone is bad for you, it takes 7 years off your life on average. There is a price to be payed for that muscle growth. In modern society muscles are the least useful they have ever been in human history.

>>82136652
you just accept it like a cuck, i want to change it

>>82136647
holy shit man, just like that?
you're such a fucking slut it's unreal

>>82136657
How are your tits?

>>82136660
What a retarded troon post, just ACK already

>>82136667
I love Elliot but you will never be him

>>82136657
Was it non feminizing estrogen? Or was it full blown tranny shit?

>>82136613 (OP)
Taking the tranny pill willingly

>>82136673
im not a slut im a virgin jeez
>>82136681
i can try...

>>82136639
Finasteride only blocks the enzyme that transforms regular Testosterone to DHT.
Blocking this enzyme does not lower Testosterone, in fact, due to the reduced levels of conversion, the body may produce MORE Testosterone to compensate, thjs will then bind to other enzymes or androgen receptors.
While DHT is more potent, the changes should be overall minimal in most aspects of the body, only really noticeable on the hair and prostate size, even on oil production on the skin, fixng acne.
The rate for side effects in Finasteride patients is less than 5%, and most lf those are mild and reversible. It is less than 1% of the population that experiences any serious side effects.

>>82136708
science niggas win again suck it fin fearers

me? I will be trying it when my hair falls out one day

>>82136695
post hair
lemme see if they're that nice to ruffle

>>82136708
Why are people so willing to mess with their hormone system? Crazy stuff.

>>82136674
you get mild gyno on this stuff but after male puberty youre not gonna get big tidders unless youre insanely fat or have like surgery / that other pill troons also take, idk what its called but ive heard of it before. i have small gyno and i just wear a compression tank under my shirts and nobody knows.
>>82136682
>non feminizing
doesnt really exist. i still look like a guy and sound like a guy and act like a guy, still grow facial hair. it honestly made me realise that most tranners will truly never be a woman, i just look like a teenaged male thank god. anyone who looks feminine either looked like their mom already or got some sort of surgery to help it

>>82136694
>Being bald and having the sun cook your brain because you have no natural insulation or protection

Do you think it's a coincidence that human evolution gave us long dense hair on top of our heads? It's very important for protection. Enjoy your hats

>>82136732
It doesn't, that is the point. The changes in overall hormonal balance is barely noticeable. Only on DHT, the body adapts and everything functions as normal, except for those things that DHT fucks up. After you are done with puberty, you don't really need that shit. MAYBE for the development of muscles but, again, the impact is usually minimal and most people don't have massive muscles anyway

>>82136708
I don't get why retards fearmonger about fin so much, I hopped on it as soon as I noticed my hairline receding and never had any side effects.
>>82136732
Almost everything effects your hormone system in some way. Drinking a cup of coffee effects your hormone system. Taking a drug with very minor hormonal effects that has been tested in hundreds of thousands of people and has very low rate of any side effects isn't crazy at all.

>>82136729
nothing really special about my hair desu, i wanna grow it out longer

>>82136765
>brown
ugh

originally speaking

>>82136740
Gyno comes from progesterone. Estrogen is responsible for developing the ducts and the breast shape.
Progesterone us what builds up the glandular tissue, which is what makes the milk and what makes up most of the breast + fat, ofc.
So you kinda have proto-titties.

>>82136775
>Gyno comes from progesterone
I meant estrogen. Fuck.

>>82136774
is this like a good ugh or a bad ugh :(

>>82136613 (OP)
This shit is so bad I can hardly believe it's legal. 5AR isn't just involved with androgen production, but also neurosteroids like allopregnanolone

>>82136708
DHT is more important than testosterone

>>82136806
>DHT is more important than testosterone
Not for anything after puberty.

>>82136774
LMAOOOOO in an original way

>>82136825
it's not funny being mean to me is not funny stop laughing

>>82136814
Actually I think being able to get erections and drop big loads is important

>>82136892
As you can see, less than 1% of patients experience that. Stop being fucking retarded.

Literally almost every celebrity and chad is on fin since they aren't magically immune to balding and they don't become women
Do not listen to countersignallers
I'm seeing signs of the reaper and hopping on soon

>>82136639
Dht isn't anabolic you retarded cuckold. All it does is enlarge your prostate and fuck your hair, but maybe you like having a huge prostate for faggot sex or something.

>>82136903
This, that has nothing to do with dht, but actually high estrogen levels from mildly concealed cuckold genetics that are disturbed by an increase in baseline testosterone.

If you're balding, why not shave it all off, grow a beard, build some muscle, and maybe get a few tattoos? Women love bald, masculine, muscular, bearded men with confidence and tats.

>>82137034
Hiding your hairline by shaving is the cowards way out, plus it makes you look 10+ years older and like a soiboy.

Also some people can't grow beards.

>>82136639
most of it does absolutely nothing except for irritating androgen receptors, even a 90% reduction with dutasteride barely affects the functions you're hinting at

>>82136708
>prostate size, even on oil production on the skin, fixng acne.
This only happens with dutasteride which blocks Type 3 5-alpha reductase, the third enzyme of DHT that's responsible for sebum production. Finasteride does nothing to your skin.

>>82136708
Testosterone has no effect, it get converted to DHT in ALL cells, you are castrating yourself tranny

in this thread we have:
>fear mongers
>trannies
>ragebaiters
>brown people
>morons with nothing to contribute and are just insulting random people
>basedjak-ers in currentyear
its like the whole board isa in one thread at the same time, we just need attention whoring egirls and its complete.

>>82137111
Broscience degree from Joe Rogan university
DHT is the shit that actually does stuff

>>82137099
>Hiding your hairline by shaving is the cowards way out
Bald men look much more masculine than balding men. And shaving your head is not cowardice, quite the opposite. It's a signal: "I don't care about the hair," and girls like that attitude, it exudes confidence and high T.
>plus it makes you look 10+ years
That's a positive for men. Women should look younger than their age, men should look older and more masculine. That's how sexual market works.
>and like a soiboy
Not if you are a muscular, masculine and self-confident man.
>Also some people can't grow beards.
Then get your hormones checked. Most (>99%) men can grow a beard.

>>82137158
brown is beautiful

>>82137158
What's wrong with Brown people and trans folx tho???

>>82137099
Also I have a weird headshape, being bald just doesn't work for me desu

>>82137159
>Broscience degree
>DHT is the shit that actually does stuff
Thank you for your valuable input.

In any event, I did not imply that it does nothing as it's responsible for certain muscle-brain connection functions, I merely pointed out that these will remain practically unaffected even with a massive reduction in it's concentration. Side effects are extremely are and I suspect that you're one of those bald/balding guys in the crab bucket who hate the idea that some people are willing to act to preserve their hairline, which I can't really understand since these methods are available for basically anybody and they take zero effort. You basically fell for your own FUD and became a hostage of it.

>>82136660
you stupid tranny it's because men are more likely to work dangerous jobs and do risky shit than women. and your group struggles to even go past the age of 30 so you have no room to talk about testosterone causing men to die since you die from a lack of it

>>82136613 (OP)
I've never had a gf before so if I were to go bald NOTHING would change.

>>82136613 (OP)
i take estrogen for my hair, ive already made my choice

>>82137183
this
brown is beautiful
transwomen ARE women

>>82137222
Low IQ retard, tell me based on the image, does the pentagon or the hexagon actually bind to the receptor?

>>82137158
>>fear mongers
>>trannies
>>ragebaiters
>>brown people
>>morons with nothing to contribute and are just insulting random people
>>basedjak-ers in currentyear
this is literally just 4chans user demographic in AD 2025

>>82137222
They're probably just a tranny who takes dht supplements and thinks it will make her into a man kek

>>82137267
>dht supplement

>>82137169
A beard is basically a massive cope, and it makes you look reddit AF.

>>82136613 (OP)
cisbros you're not alone, us pooners have to deal with balding too...

>>82137286
>A beard is basically a massive cope, and it makes you look reddit AF.
Only insecure men believe ts

>>82137222
>>82137111
Consecutive trips for me, I won this thread.
Get on dutasteride, don't fall for the troons who want you to get desperate at 35 and start taking estrogen so you have no choice but to join their cult.
Don't fall for the podcast consooming 90 IQ bald soijaks FUDding it because they're too scared and would prefer if other men lost their hair too, out of sheer jealousy.

DHT blockers WILL NOT PREVENT YOU FROM BUILDING MUSCLE MASS, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THEY DON'T BLOCK TESTOSTERONE AND THEY DO NOT *ELIMINATE* DHT PRODUCTION EITHER. The concentration that it reduces your DHT levels to is completely acceptable for most people, side effects are extremely rare.
I've been on dut for 4 years and it did absolutely nothing to my ability to work out and and think clearly.
If you're on any SSRIs or other anti-depressants, you're already taking medication with infinitely worse and much more common side effects.

Preserve your hairline, it will affect your life in ways you can't even comprehend.

>>82137321
>>82137248
Another niggerkiddo who didn't pay attention in school
Have fun soft transitioning you tranny wannabe

>>82137290
god this is grim. i dont see why anyone would want to do this to themselves. not even in a hater way, just a sad way.

>>82136903
It's more than that and that's still too much anyway. A hard dick is more important than hair and fin isn't even that effective. The 90% figure is bullshit

>>82137321
what do I do if my doctor doesn't want to prescribe dut?

>>82137546
go to another private doctor, preferably a dermatologist

Just get a hair system. It will look better than doll hair from a transplant or baby hairs from taking these drugs. You can literally just slap on a chads haircut to your head.

>>82137789
>baby hairs
wrong, especially if you used them to preserve hair
>hair system
Do you have any idea what happens to your reputation once people find out about that? I don't mean that in a judgmental way, but you know how people are.

My dick is softer and smaller after I started mino 2g + fina 1g. It can also be due to my smoking bad quality weed and recent problems with hemorrhoids. I'm solving one problem at once to see if I can keep using it.

>>82137871
>mino 2g + fina 1g
You take grams a day orally? Pretty sure you'd die nigga. Especially min because it fucks with your heart.

>>82137969
yes, I take ir orally everyday.
So, do you think my weaker erections are caused by a disregulated blood flow?

>>82137969
ops, my mistake. It's 2mg and 1mg, respectively.

There is nothing wrong with balding, it's a masculine trait. The obsession with hair is feminine and gay. The fact that vain faggots are willing to pump their body full of HRT (that's what fin is) and get gyno just so they can keep their hair is just a sign of how feminine they are.

>>82136708
And do you know what that enzyme also generates??

GABA, YOU SLIMY PHARMA SHILL!!

YES, YOU ARE NUKING YOUR BODY'S ABILITY TO MAKE A NEUROTRANSMITTER THAT REGULATES ANXIETY, MOOD AND NOT SURPRISINGLY, YOUR SEX DRIVE!

>>82136613 (OP)
All the men who I know that have a significantly younger girlfriend or wife without having to paypig have hair.

Currently working on quitting alcohol so I can reduce my chance of losing the Fin lottery...

>>82136613 (OP)
>dutasteride
>minoxidil
>microneedling
all you need.

>>82138086
It's a bad genes trait. You have no idea how important hair is to protect you from the sun. The is an evolutionary reason the hair is so long there in the first place. Enjoy your hat or increased risk of heat stroke and possibly even brain damage.

>>82136732
we live in a world of microplastics and weird pollution + hormones in meat, even in first world countries. Your hormones aren't safe anyway.

>>82137829
>Do you have any idea what happens to your reputation once people find out about that? I don't mean that in a judgmental way, but you know how people are.

there is no way they'd fine out unless you too it off one day or did a terrible job of applying it

>>82138300
>microneedling
Use a stamp if you want to do this, I can tell from experience that rollers are absolute dogshit even if you buy the best ones, they just rip up your skin instead of puncturing and penetrating like they're supposed to. Pens and stamps are the only viable options.

>>82138326
>t. vain faggot

>>82138086
>hrt
You don't know what that means retard. Fin doesn't "replace" anything. It just blocks test in your body from turning to prostate enlargement and ballsack head juice. The gyno happens for the same reason body builders sometimes get it, some people just have latent booba genetics and the potential increase in test can sometimes provoke those big tiddy genes you already had. Which is why 99% of people get no symptoms.

>>82138408
If I already have slight gyno would fin make it worse?

thing is im fine with the idea of receeding as long as it happens at an older age, like being 50 with slightly gone but still healthy hair is fine by me but im 24 and nothing spooks me more than being a 27 year old baldie, I just cant be arsed. Mums side have no balding, dads side is fucked so its a toss up but I take a lot after my mums side and my uncle went at like 18 and im still completely intact, dads was gone at like 36 but desu thats not toooo bad imo

>>82138373
>stamp or pen
Yeah, either 10$ stamp from beijing or a 200$ pen that looks like it would be used in a lab, with nothing else in between. At that point you might as well go to a dermatologist.

>>82138516
Do whatever, except for using a roller. Don't EVER use a roller.

>>82138533
Why not use a roller?

>>82136613 (OP)
i was still able to get boners on finasteride but they werent as hard and i wouldn't cum anything out, which was actually kind of convenient during masturbating because there was no clean up, but eventually my balls felt weird and i had to stop taking it. im still on minoxidil and thats done wonders. in 4 years i'll probably get hair plugs.

>>82139252
because it pierces your skin from the wrong angle and rips it up instead of just puncturing it, it's a shitty tool