Thread 82151087

I see this over and over again here - men are frustrated not because women are wrong, but because women aren't behaving like men.

"Men are attracted to most women, so women should be attracted to most men."
"Men are expected to approach, court, initiate, so women should be expected to approach, court, and initiate."
"Men know immediately if they're interested and ready for sex, so women should be too."
"If a woman expressed overt sexual interest in me, I'd be flattered - not creeped out. So women should feel the same."

Women are not the same as men.
Explain to me how you are not GAY.

>>82151087 (OP)
If my dad could get a gf/wife who acts like i man i should also have the same opportunity

We just expect the reciprocity, sadly most women like a few percentage of men

>>82151087 (OP)
Stop larping like an enlightened retard who understands women. Most normie guys who have sex expect reciprocation themselves

>>82151087 (OP)
This is true. Men expect women to be loyal or have the capacity for true love but they don't and this delusion makes dating much harder for these naive men.

>>82151087 (OP)
Who the fuck thinks like this actually?
I know women think differently, act differently, etc.
They're weaker, more impulsive, hysterical, dramatic, etc.

Men are SUPPOSED to carry her through it all
Women are supposed to be weak, men are supposed to be strong
Women are supposed to be impulsive, men are supposed to be stoic
That's their nature and our nature, how have you guys just figuring this out?

>>82151087 (OP) I think the frustration for men comes from the fact that women are just way too selective to an absurd degree.

Men wouldn't mind approaching women and making the effort if there was some actual hope out there that their efforts would be successful. But the issue is that most women's expectations these days are way too fucking high.

If you aren't some perfect looking specimen, then you automatically get rejected. So there's just no hope of anything happening with a woman ever if you're a guy. The entire pursuit of finding a mate of the opposite sex feel entirely pointless.

>>82151087 (OP)
That's what happens when you raise a generation of men to think that men and women are equals. They believe exactly what they were told to believe.

>>82151145
>Men expect women to be loyal

Men are less loyal than women, you can see this in male friendships.
Single men die alone way more often than women, who usually will have friends and people who care about them (other women) come to visit.
But male friends are more likely to drop you or not care.

>>82151152
>Women are supposed to be impulsive, men are supposed to be stoic
this is hot btw when a man knows it and acts this way naturally
that's why i love my bf because he accepts my impulsive irrational hormonal nature and is stoic and masculine through it
but online i see men being sissies like "waaa why woman not dominant and stoic like man i want to be the impulsive or neurotic one"
faggs

>>82151152
If you put it that way it seems that men are boring for women

>>82151176
Your views don't align with reality

>>82151184
>impulsive
>hysterical
>dramatic
You just want an excuse to cheat on your boyfriend.

>>82151176
You're right but you're still a tranny, so it disgusts me to agree with you....

>>82151184
This is exactly why women shouldn't be treated as equals and should be stripped of their rights.

>>82151191
>Your views don't align with reality
That men die more often alone and their friends (mostly other men) don't care about them? That's reality.

As far as cheating, there's other studies indicating that men cheat more.

"about 20% of married men and 13% of married women report cheating on their spouses."
the-truth-about-infidelity-insights-from-94943-individuals

>>82151189
Every woman a BPdemon, Every man the St. George who tames her

>>82151192
nah i only find a possessive man hot and the idea that other dicks touch me lowers my value and makes me want to puke
hence why my bf has my virginity and if we split up i stay single with cats

>>82151198
we don't have to be the SAME to have the same rights

>>82151184
>"waaa why woman not dominant and stoic like man i want to be the impulsive or neurotic one"
They want to be fucked in the ass

>>82151198
>Equals
WHO THE FUCK IS GIVING THEM THESE RIGHTS
DID YOU EVER STOP AND THINK ABOUT THAT

>>82151223
What if you get impulsive one night after you break up and have sex with another guy. Would you say "TEEHEE I'M SO IMPULSIVE AND DRAMATIC"

>>82151224
lowkey probably true with the pegging trends

>>82151230
i am not impulsive about sex just like i am not impulsive about murder i have low impulse control and was a kissless virgin until 22 this one specific man and even then it took him a lot of time to warm me up
i am low impulse in the sense that i will lash out or cry or throw a shoe not sucking random dick

>>82151156
being attractive literally isnt enough anymore, I have PTSD for being molested a bunch when I was a kid and it's a huge red flag for all women, so I'll never have love or consensual sex ever. Yet women are supposedly the empathetic gender.

>>82151257
Lol. The most beloved and coomed over fictional character Astarion who has hundreds of thousands of fan girls who buy his merch, stalk his voice actor, collect pictures of him, schlick to his porn or lewd stories is literally a gay rape victim. He has sexual trauma (breaks down about it, is vulnerable) and got abused/raped by a male vampire.

>>82151282
everytime I opened up about my trauma I got ghosted, no one wants to deal with that much baggage. I genuinely look decent but it just isn't enough, serves me right for getting graped as a kid I guess.

>>82151295
You usually don't open up about trauma with people you don't have a deep and secure bond with. Random people are random shitty people with superficial bonds.
>serves me right for getting graped as a kid I guess
No, it doesn't. That is horrible and not your fault.
I just think the average person is selfish and overwhelmed by this. But you don't want an "average" person, you want someone who loves you and cares about you. That person would be a special person, someone who is kind and cares about you. And such a person would NOT ghost you.

>>82151295
You wanna relive that experience again, anon?

>>82151087 (OP)
If that shit's gay I'd be gay for my (hypothetical) wife 24/7 brochacho

>>82151087 (OP)
Based and true thread. Women should be subjugated and considered property.

>>82151223
>we don't have to be the SAME to have the same rights
Completely disagree. Placing women on an equal playing field with men and putting men and women in competition with one another, has been a disaster for society. Women want a man that's better than them, that doesn't work out well when women are competing with men for the same positions. The equality nonsense also actively teaches men that women are supposedly the same as them which is obviously false. And just completely fucks men over.

>>82151217
Asking people who their neighbors plan on voting for gives more accurate polls than asking people who they plan to vote for. Similarly, asking holes if their friends have cheated paints a much clearer picture of female infidelity than asking women if they've cheated.

>>82151295
Women are just shitty beings and they are enabled to be that way by society which coddles them. Women are huge narcissists that think the world revolves around them, that's why they all expect princess treatment, and they want their man to be a robotic servant with no personal feelings. Don't be down bro, I know how you feel. It's them who are the problem, not you.

>>82151087 (OP)
>Men are the problem
As always right op?

>>82151350
There's no indication that men are more loyal than women even outside of cheating studies. Still waiting for anyone to explain if men are so loyal and male friendships are so deep why single men are much more likely to die alone with no visitors whereas women will almost always have female friends caring about them.

>>82151357
>Men rape more
>Men kill more
>90% of animal torture is done by men, they even fuck up innocent helpless animals
>Men abandon their own friends so single men die alone more often

Men, the GOOD gender. Roflmao.

>>82151317
keep lying to yourself foid, I wouldnt be an incel if you didn't find my past disgusting. I know it's not my fault and you do to yet you wouldn't want to bang a guy that has traumatic flashbacks even though he's pretty and nice, because you can do better so why bother with a guy like this. Female sexual abuse victims get endless pats on the back for it, so much so that lying about sexual abuse is a common occurence now, yet male sexual victims are just left to rot because no one wants to bother with guys like that. I can tell you for a fact that I am telling the truth, I dont mind sharing a picture of myself if you doubt me, I am attractive enough to match with attractive women online yet somehow they all disappear when I hint at my trauma and intimacy problems.
>>82151357
You are right, and the system made me blame myself for my failure to find connection because of the women can do no wrong narrative

>>82151152
Have you grown up in a household with a woman like that? Shit fucking sucks absolute balls. I don't want to deal with drama over the most pointless things in human history, I don't want to have to tard wrangle someone that's meant to be fully grown for the rest of my life, I just want to take things easy, but it feels like women absolutely don't want that. They want to live in a soap opera. I'd rather be alone than deal with that shit.

>>82151387
Nah, you are not painting the whole picture. I've just proven to you that one of the most desired male characters with hundreds of thousands rabid fangirls is an attractive male character who has sexual trauma and breaks down about it.

>>82151348
Yeah we see how well thats works in muslim shitholes

>>82151371
>words words words words words
I accept your concession tranny

>>82151405
idk man I think the bloodsucking violent monster thing is what makes the guy attractive, it is deeply unattractive to be a male sexual abuse victim trying to convince a normie of that fact is impossible despite the fact that I lived through that rejection multiple times, no one wants to admit that fact because it clashes with the narrative that women are the nice and caring gender and men are violent abusive rapists.
So people, both irl and online, call me a liar, they say I haven't tried hard enough because admitting I'm right would mean women aren't perfect and that's a big no no in the normie hivemind.

>>82151437
Why are men such shitty friends to each other? Why do you let your friends die without visiting or helping? Really makes you think..

>>82151184
you disgust me and you should never have been taught to read or write

>>82151394
Sorta
Mom has mood swings and is sort of a narc; when my dad was around he'd handle her but now that he's dead, she's my "problem"

I don't know if I realized it by hanging out her with you guys or I'm just genuinely sick in the head but I treat her as a woman now, not as a mother
>inb4 what do you mean?
How do you guys treat the women you don't want to fuck? Just like that

>>82151383
Who cares, men do the hard manual labor and the fighting so society can exist. Without men, women would still be living in the stone age getting eaten by wild bears and lions. Women get raped and murdered by men? Good. That's the price you pay when you are a weak parasite that lives off men and cannot fend for yourself.

If women don't like it they should fuck off and form female-only societies/communes where they are completely independent of men.

>>82151467
> so society can exist.
And what society did they create? One where millions kill themselves and hate life and wage slave for rich men and jerk off to porn.

>That's the price you pay when you are a weak parasite that lives off men and cannot fend for yourself.
Just fuck and date men then, if you love them so much.

>>82151441
He's actually quite flamboyant and sassy, not a stoic violent Chad. You need to stop telling random people about your trauma and stop being desperate. That's information for someone close to you, who you love and trust and vice versa.

>>82151424
>see how well thats works in muslim shitholes
Yeah, they have kids, we don't. They're winning and will ultimately overtake us at some point.

>>82151477
It's better than whatever women created, which is absolutely nothing because they're parasites that exist off the hard labor of men. And if men could rewire their brains, they would gladly just fuck other men than deal with women's shit.
There's nothing stopping women from having women-only communes/apartments where men don't bother them. Radical feminists have often suggested such a thing. Women don't do it because they're parasites that need to mooch off men.

>>82151496
My definition of winning isn't a shitty life of wagecucking and a loveless, awkward marriage where people pump out kids.

>>82151503
How is it better? You think you would be happy in Afghanistan or similar shitholes? Then go there! Women are literally animals there with no rights and only men walk the streets. Go there and have fun, little nigga.

>>82151455
>men on r9k: neurotic, want an "independent stoic 50/50 pay" woman who coddles them, easily annoyed and moody/whiny like women and always complaining
>my bf: stoic and unbothered, not moved by my hormones but instead kind, calm and playful, loves "how crazy women are and doesn't want a man", wants to take care of me in every way and makes me able to feel feminine and cute

gaylords

>>82151506
Doesn't matter what you're idea of winning is. If they're the kind of people that live and pass on their genes, then those are the kinds of people that get to continue to exist. Egalitarian societies just don't keep up.

>>82151526
i want a docile and submissive girl not some neurotic little sperg who wants to be choked out all the time by her daddy. if that makes me unmasculine then masculinity has lost all meaning.

>>82151515
Why do I need to move country when you could just fuck off to an apartment/commune with your fellow foids and leave men alone? No man to rape you, no man to bother you. Simple. Why do you need a man to leech off while simultaneously hating men? Parasite behavior.

>>82151550
ALL WOMEN ARE NEUROTIC COMPARED TO MEN
IF YOU DONT WANT A NEUROTIC WOMAN DATE ANOTHER MAN AKA A TROON

>>82151568
nah the ideal female is docile, not some hormonal psychopath. learn your gender role idiot

>>82151561
I'm just proving that your "omg society is better when women aren't there or just property" logic isn't true because life sucks there too. Life sucked for almost all men throughout history, you are just pawns for more powerful men.

>>82151548
>winning is passing on your genes
>winning isn't living a satisfying life in which you fulfilled you dreams and spend time with those you love and vice versa

Yeah I disagree.

>>82151087 (OP)
How long do you intend to keep guessing.

>>82151580
"the ideal female is a gay, submissive man"
lol

even in animal kingdoms they say female animals are more moody and boy animals are more predictable and docile once castrated

>>82151489
Guess I should just start eating human flesh then, I mean Jeffrey Dahmer had no problem getting laid.
No one wants to admit that since every women can just order any attractive guy online to buy them dinner and fuck, sexual abuse victims are kicked out of the dating market. It is the ugly truth, a truth so ugly that no one wants to admit it.
So not only did I have to go through a horrible childhood and teenage years, I'm gonna be forever alone, and people will forever dismiss my struggle because I haven't tried hard enough or hate women or something. It's easier to blame the individual than the system. It's easier to blame men because it's socially acceptable. Thanks women, thanks normies.

>>82151087 (OP)
If by act like men you mean not be retarded as fuck, then yes

>>82151463
I just treat all women the same. As in, polite but I keep an emotional distance. Whatever makes things easier for me, the less drama the better. I simply cannot comprehend anyone that wants to add more problems to their lives.

>>82151609
You seem to have a foul personality combined with being desperate/too eager. No one wants a guy or girl just trauma dump them out of nowhere, or desperately throw yourself at anyone and claim "no one wants me"... regardless of what happened to you or not.

>>82151585
Afghanistan is shit because it's a third world shithole inhabited by low IQ durka browns. When white countries oppressed women in the 19th century and early 20th century, we were on the top of the world. Now we are rapidly aging and getting ethnically replaced by mass immigration, all because white women refuse to have children.
So yes, it is your fault.

>>82151596
the ideal female is a sweet and docile girl who only thinks of sugar plums and her dollhouse. stop trying to redefine gender roles to define your mental illness as normal or normal women as being like gay men.

>>82151633
>When white countries oppressed women in the 19th century and early 20th century
Ah yes the golden times of wage slaving and being send into wars to die in millions for richer men hahahaha

>>82151627
victim blaming is ok as long as the victim is an incel because incels are all evil I guess.
If I was a woman telling my story you would just take my word for it, but since I'm a man the problem must be an awful personnality or maybe an awful smell. Because no way women can be overwhelmed by a guy with sexual trauma they're all so nurturing and perfect and nice, get over yourself foid, I'm not even saying women are evil here just pointing out the objective truth that women think of male sa survivors as giant red flags, even deepseek acknowledges that fact, dating as a victim is nightmare mode yet I dont try hard enough because acknowledging women dont like guys with a traumatic past is borderline illegal.

>>82151651
Men throughout history have had to fight and wageslave. Men today still have to fight and wageslave. Except now we have to do these things so parasitical foids like you can live the high life off our backs while bitching about how much you hate us.

>>82151087 (OP)
Male cognition is evidently superior to female cognition
>Women are not the same as men.
>Explain to me how you are not GAY.
Wanting your toaster to not fuck up toast doesn't change your sexuality; why would wanting women to not fuck up civilization make you gay?

BONUS ROUND:
Modern female reproductive decisions are skewed by socialism and medicine making it so they don't have to pay the true consequences of their actions.

Get knocked up by a handsome deadbeat or retard? Everyone else has to pay via public education, welfare, and healthcare. If women knew that if they got knocked up and no one wanted to care for them they would be at serious risk of dying in the streets with the child, they'd be a lot more careful what they do with their vaginas.

Basically all of modern civilization is arranged so retards are protected from their own decisions by making everyone else pay for it.

>>82151724
>Basically all of modern civilization is arranged so retards are protected from their own decisions by making everyone else pay for it.
Ding ding ding
The answer has always been eugenics

>>82151699
You would have been far more likely to die in a war 100 years ago. This is what you would get in a less "empathic or liberal" society which is what you want. Just being send into war as fodder for a rich man or working as a wagecuck for a rich man. So powerful!

>>82151697
I'm not blaming you for being a victim. But you can still decide what you do as an adult and trauma dumping random people and acting desperate is not attractive to the average person you have no bond with.

>>82151087 (OP)
Incompetence and passiveness =/= femininity

>>82151789
Actually yes. Hence why women are so attracted to competence and power and men usually don't really care unless they are high estrogen or subfags.

>>82151789
Of course it is, failmails are always so clumsy and subby it's unreal
Stop making my dick hard, little sluts

>>82151751
Except it's liberal and leftist retards like you that are advocating intervening in Ukraine to escalate things into nuclear WW3 where men will get drafted. Right-wingers aren't the ones pushing for this.

>>82151804
>HITLER WAS LIBEEERAL
>AND THE GUYS BEFORE HIM! THE COUNTLESS WARS IN EUROPE ALL FROM LIBERALS WAA!

ok nigga

>>82151751
alright think of it like this, it's either I bust my ass courting a woman for a month and when sex time comes I get a panic attack and she just shames me for it and say I wasted her time, or I do a quick traumadump so she knows what she's getting into and I dont get a second date.
I am almost 26 years old, I am used to this shit, you will always find some bullshit excuse to justify your behavior, which is fine btw, not liking sexual abuse victims is fine and ok, but fucking blaming me for it? Saying I should just try harder? That's psychopath behavior, and it's normalized, because in this world the woman is always right and the incel is always wrong.

>>82151087 (OP)
>"Men are expected to approach, court, initiate, so women should be expected to approach, court, and initiate."
Explain why they shouldn't.

>>82151087 (OP)
Males want to be with females. It's not complicated at all. It's just that they are brainwashed in school/cartoons by bluepillers. When they reach adolescence it can be quite brutal coming to terms with the fact that a few guys (Chads) are taking the virginites of most girls and that females are effectively Chadsexual and find the average guy physically repulsive. A lot of guys take the blackpill, but some try to remain bluepilled and delusional in order to not commit suicide.

>>82151828
Biological differences.

>>82151087 (OP)
Women could be women back when society and the law treated them accordingly, but now theyre treated equal and should be expected to act equal if they want to keep those privileges.

>>82151845
>Biological differences.
What biological difference makes it so that men should approach and women shouldn't?

>>82151883
Men are much less neurotic and sensitive biologically speaking. This is why you see men take crazy risks in sports for fun while women almost never do.

It's easier for a man to just go out and risk something or put himself out there, whereas for women it feels way more scary and personal.

>>82151814
Stalin was a leftist and he killed far more people than Hitler. But it's okay because Commies were feminist, right foid?

>>82151900
Just like all the kings and conquerors were leftists when they send millions of white men into the meatgrinder in the EU right? Hehehe.

>>82151921
WW1 was carried out by liberal cucks who gave women the right to vote immediately after millions of white men died in the trenches. The leaderships were hardly super conservative.
Regardless, the modern warmongerers are all libshits like you.

>>82151825
Undeniable and absolutely brutal blackpill. I feel for you anon, modern women are monsters.

>>82151585
>Yeah I disagree
Im just saying that one will exist in the future and one won't

>>82151950
> Napoleonic Wars
> Thirty Years War
> French Wars of Religion
> Crimean War
> World War II

Yup all caused by liberals and women. So true. Now keep being a good goy for powerful men and wagecuck and shut up.

>>82151898
>It's easier for a man to just go out and risk something or put himself out there
It isn't. Women in general are more extroverted. I see more women going outside and partying or following popular trendy stuff than men that are more likely to be solitary.
Also it would make much more sense for women to approach since they will have a higher chance of success and they are less likely to be reported for harassment and such.

>>82151985
The same frequency of wars would be happening today if not for MAD and nuclear weapons (invented by men btw). Female monarchs are no more peaceful than men. But today, it is Trump that prevented Biden or Hillary from escalating Ukraine into WW3. So cope and seethe, bitch.

>>82151985
Also it's convenient how you forgot
>Vietnam
>Yugoslavia
>Afghanistan
>Iraq
>Libya, Syria, Somalia, half a dozen other shitholes all bombed to oblivion by libshits like the great Obama
Disingenous retard

>>82151789
yeah it is, you will be forced into playing with dolls and illiteracy and physical inactivity and you will like it

>>82152045
>The same frequency of wars would be happening today if not for MAD and nuclear weapons (invented by men btw)
Implying men wouldn't just kill themselves with nuclear weapons if that is what the majority of the world voted for, which is no fucks given.


>>82152113
How fucking braindead are you, nigger? We were talking about WHITE COUNTRIES in the past being better compared to today. Why would I bring up other countries in that context?

>>82152196
Like I said you retarded foid, the only reason we don't have WW3 is because of MAD. Neolibturds are perfectly happy waging war otherwise as I have proven. And retarded women like Hillary Clinton want to directly fight WW3 with Russia. Yugoslavia and Ukraine are also both in Europe. Dumb illiterate cuntoid.

>>82152227
Yeah totally. And the increase in human and womens rights is also because of nuclear weapons, you got it.

>>82152227
>Yugoslavia and Ukraine are also both in Europe
Just like Vietnam, Iraq and all the other countries you mentioned because you can't read and comprehend text?

>>82151087 (OP)
You're right in all of your points.
>Men are attracted to most women, so women should be attracted to most men."
Never going to happen and even Chad isn't adored the way men adore women. Most men are perceived as cockroaches.
>"Men are expected to approach, court, initiate, so women should be expected to approach, court, and initiate."
You're right, it's ever going to happen.
>"Men know immediately if they're interested and ready for sex, so women should be too."
Women have a low sex drive which revolves around their ovulation window.
>"If a woman expressed overt sexual interest in me, I'd be flattered - not creeped out. So women should feel the same."
True, sex with a man is probably the cheapest, most accessible thing in the world.

>>82152247
Because of retarded leftoids and libshits like you, living comfortably off the backs of right wing men. Hopefully Russia pushes past Ukraine so dumb leftist whores like you end up getting raped and killed. No one will fight for your worthless ass.

>>82152257
>seething emotionally and screeching like a woman
Hitler would have killed you too, btw.

>>82152267
So you acknowledge women are retarded and subhuman? Good.

>>82151087 (OP)
Because I am not attracted to men.

And if women have nothing to offer (unless you are Chad and have easy, casual access to them)...I seriously don't see the point in pursuing them.
I rather spend my time and money on escapism, hobbies and things that interest me

>>82152253
Why are you crying and bitching so hard over me calling out your liberal icons as warmongers? Go cry some more bitch. Trump won. :)

>>82152319
A woman being a woman is fine, just like it is fine for a woman to have sex with her husband. If you have sex with your husband it makes you faggot. Hope this helps!

>>82152357
>this little sissy is still malding
>I'M SUCH A REAL MAN AND NOT A LOW TESTOSTERONE WIMP THAT'S WHY I RAGE AND CRY ON THE INTERNET LIKE A WOMAN OR FAG!

Funny.

>>82151793
>>82151802
>>82152141
Enjoy your retarded kids

>>82151087 (OP)
I want a strong masculine woman in both body and mind so I can conquer her. I like a good challenge. I want to colonize a lushous green land with abundant natural resources and higly cultured natives who fight me fiercely to protect their land, not some bumfuck nowhere desert shithole that lets me trample over it like many other empires have.

>>82152247
>>82151793
>>82152141
>oh no my daughter's doing porn and my son is a faggot how could this be?

>>82152444
>>82152485
daughters are supposed to be retarded fucktoys. sons can be corrected with beatings and socialisation.

Women are awesome, imagine expecting them to behave like shit men lmao, pure homosexuality.

>>82151087 (OP)
How the fuck you fagots fall for the most obvious bait in the world? It literally has reddit spacing what the fuck. This site should have just shut down permanently

>>82152378
Since retarded leftist tranny janny won't let me continue the argument because they are a faggot tranny who shuts down right-wing viewpoints, you can eat shit leftist whore. May Russia win in Ukraine and may Trump continue to make you CRY.
Also fittingly leftist for you to go and cry to jannies. WAAAH WAAAAH THE RIGHT HURT MY FEE-FEES!!!!

>>82152378
Eat shit leftist whore. Trump won. Russia will win. European right will win. :)
Also fittingly leftist for you to go and cry to jannies. WAAAH WAAAAH THE RIGHT HURT MY FEE-FEES!!!!

Eat this shit leftist janny subhumans

>Foids flood the thread and get outraged yet not a single one can provide a valid argument against the guy that's incel cause of sa
Lmao, it became cartoonishly difficult to please you yet none of you have any self awareneness even when the truth is spoonfed to you

Janny's mom here

>Foids flood the thread and get outraged yet not a single one can provide a valid argument against the guy that's incel cause of sa
Lmao, it became cartoonishly difficult to please you yet none of you have any self awareneness, this thread should be studied in history books, brutal blackpill

>>82152517
Just look at the thread and the sissy freaking out. He's calling women subhuman but behaves like a woman. Any masculine man would gas this fag. lmao

>>82152651
Masculine men are right-wing. Leftist cucks aren't masculine. Eat more shit retard and keep crying to leftie jannie troons.

Jannies eat this for breakfast lol

Hungry hungry janny

Clean it up janny troon

This is what jannies eat

M A L D I N G

lmao

>>82151087 (OP)
>"Men are expected to approach, court, initiate, so women should be expected to approach, court, and initiate."
Most women I were with I knew as friends at first and when they got attracted to me, they initiated courtship. I still had to make *the move* though (usually kissing them).
>Explain to me how you are not GAY
I liek boobies and vagane fr fr no cap on god

>>82151184
>that's why i love my bf because he accepts my impulsive irrational hormonal nature and is stoic and masculine through it
I act like this. Where's my 4chan gf? Huh fembot?

>>82152761
I am not the one who has to go crying to janny because I can't handle right-wing viewpoints.
I shit on your puny leftist brain. :)

Leftists eat shit alllllll day long :)

I would hate to be a leftist in 2k25 tbqh all you can do is eat shit loool

Also Ukraine will lose :)

>>82152761
You ate my shit today leftist whore. Remember this when you try to talk shit to right wingers. I am leaving now, you and jannies can seethe and cry knowing your reply won't be read. :)

>>82151176
Nobody hates women more than other women. I see it all the time. Women will say nice shit to each other and then constantly spread rumors, insults, etc behind each other's backs. Men don't share their problems with each other as much, because they realize that everybody has their own heap of troubles. Women believe that they're the main character so everybody should give a shit. Hell, women will come to visit a dying woman just to feel happy that they're not the ones dying or for social status as a 'good person'. In reality most people are uncomfortable with death and you will lose most friends, male or female, if you're dying.

Of course, outliers exist and I'm just speaking in generalities.

>>82152887
>Nobody hates women more than other women.
False. Men are the number one predator and abuser of women.
>Women will say nice shit to each other and then constantly spread rumors, insults, etc behind each other's backs.
Ah yes, the great narrative that women are lesser beings and can't form meaningful friendships without gossip. Yet male friends care so little about their maters that they let them die alone and don't even visit unlike female friends and then man frames it as "umm the woman just visit their dying friend so they can be happy they're not dying "HAHAHAHHA

>>82152790
She's coming, one day.

This is why I like trannies.

>>82152933
>maters
Nah we care about our cars

>>82151184
It's okay to feel this way, just know it contributes to why we'll never respect you or see you as equals.

>>82153018
you can love and cherish someone without thinking they are 100% equal to you
men and women have different strengths

>>82151282
Yeah its comical but its because he's a vampire and that carries a lot.
Its like the Werewolf CEO joke I keep hearing.
Women want a man that can and will
kill everyone but them.

>>82153199
Everyone is a killer in the game, pal. He's also quite gay and sassy/flamboyant. He's not a "stoic masculine rape chad" - he's a flamboyant, dramatic, whiny guy who breaks down over sex due to his past trauma. He's not rich either. Yes, he is also dangerous but so is everyone else in the game.

>>82153247
So to get what he gets, I need to be a sassy flamboyant raped killer in a world of killers

Or I guess you think this carries over in real life and the sassy, flamboyant, non-vampire non-elf rape victim who's not 500 years old and not established in a court would be able to get mad pussy too

I just don't think women like real world guys, anon.

>>82153374
I'm saying that his sexual trauma made him complex and relatable to many people, not turned them off. Yes, otherwise he's also a "cool fantasy character" as well, but the guy argued he was a beautiful man himself.

>>82153690
You need more than just beautiful man with a traum, that's the thing. Sure, women's preferences are fucking weird if they like that in a guy but it doesn't absolve all the other shit he needs to stand out.
He'd need to be an MMA fighter CEO who had a past in criminal activities for them to get as wet as they do for a fictional character.

>>82151585
That's a western privilege that you are losing and will lose completely largely do to your reasoning

In the real world your way of reasoning is disgusting.

>>82154171
The real world is to exist, fuck, make babies, wageslave and die? I pass on the real world then.

>>82151257
Major this. Fuck these fucking bitches.

>>82154283
The real world is a rat race to the top. Some are winning most are not but only westerners cope and lie to themselves about it. You're literally being replaced in your own countries because of luxurious complacency. You wouldn't have a fluffy life if it weren't for the industrial exploitation of other countries. But the balance of power is shifting and your comfy life won't last forever. A loving family or a tribal collective can asset its autonomy a lot greater than an atomized consumer. One generation of consumption and your legacy is lost to the wind.

>>82154385
>science is progressing rapidly
>in some years race won't even matter because you can genetically engineer high IQ, perfect health babies with whatever eye color you want
>more and more diseases get cured

It don't matter, bro. Since the dawn of time people always said "It's gonna be over!" in the future.

>>82151087 (OP)
>because women aren't behaving like men.
Don't forget that girlboss career-oriented women are secret FtM trannies.
I have no interest in dating a masculine woman who secretly has female genitals when she's not a successful businessMAN.
Combine that with massive DEI to give men's jobs to unqualified women, and you see the problem developing WRT marriage and family formation.

>>82151087 (OP)
Everyone knows that men and women are different. We just often debate what the differences truly are.

>>82151348
Men who lose competition to women are too pathetic rights. If anything your post just cements that women need rights. Men who lose competition to them absolutely should not reproduce and our cucked population is a direct result of the fact that previously those pathetic men got to do that.

I want a woman not to pretend to act like a woman. But to pretend to act like a man; but understand the necessity of such woman being fuck in the head.

Of course I'm talking about subtler things than just courting etiquette

>>82155222
I understand, so we need to take them away again and normalize beatings.
Men constantly hold back because they think women have a heart

>>82155133
It's true
Because most women through history have been able to reproduce, they have not been exposed to much evolutionary pressure, therefore women are exactly the same as they were back in the stone cave monkey age.

>>82155384
Did evolutionary pressure turn men into pedophiles who are obsessed with young pussy and enslaving their fellow men into wageslaving peasants or war fodder then?

>>82151087 (OP)
>"Men are attracted to most women, so women should be attracted to most men."
Nobody here expects women to be attracted to men. We explicitly state the opposite. It's maybe 10% of men at best they are attracted to. The rest of the time they settle for resources and are unhappy and resentful until the divorce.
>"Men are expected to approach, court, initiate, so women should be expected to approach, court, and initiate."
Sorry, but a lot of men just dont find it worth it anymore.
>"Men know immediately if they're interested and ready for sex, so women should be too."
Women do too. They see chad and immediately know they want him to fuck her.
>"If a woman expressed overt sexual interest in me, I'd be flattered - not creeped out. So women should feel the same."
Again, nobody here expects women to like ugly or even aversge men approaching them or hitting on them. We already know it actually makes them feel worse. What a terrible fucking thread.

>>82155540
Hello foid. How was your day at your girljob?

>>82155540
>All men are pedophile
I'm the anon that got raped when I was a kid, by both my parents so a man and a woman, I'm not there only victim they got away with it because they are millionaires.
Let me tell you one thing that annoys me a lot, not only will I not ever find love or have sex because women find male sa victims icky. But I have to watch women turning my fucking trauma into a trend, for women it's trendy to be sexually abused, half of my friends have been falsely accused by women they rejected, it's a really common occurence.
Male victims don't get taken seriously, so the stats you find online about 90% of predators being male, guess what, they're false. The data is falsified because female predators are simply never acknowledged they dont get consequences for there actions and the media pretends they dont exist to fit the current narrative. One of my friends was raped by an obese woman who spiked his drink 3 months ago, he didn't go to the police because what's the point? He knows damn well they wouldnt take him seriously.
And of course if I dare say anything about this I get dismissed as an incel and a mysoginist.
But yeah male privilege patriarcy and all that jazz, the poor women need to be protected from the evil men I guess.

>>82155960
This is completely delusional. Female predators are actually OVERREPRESENTED in the news, statistically, because they make for good stories. Nobody caries if some fat, ugly male teacher touched his pupils again cause it happens all the time, but if a woman slept with an underage boy it's sensational and they love making headlines about it.

You can just look at countries where women are seen as sinful animals (islamic shitholes) and even there it's mostly men raping girls and boys.

>>82156047
idk how it is where you are but I live in france and it is like this there. Yeah there are a lot of countrys where women are oppressed we agree. But idk don't you have any simpathy for me after all I said? Imagine being an actual victim, being treated as a subhuman for it and watching the same people that deny you love because of your abuse turn it into a fucking trend, and lying about it to, it became so normalized to lie about this that no one believes real victims now, and it's not the men lying about rape for attention I can tell you that for sure.

>>82156106
I don't know who treats you like a subhuman. It sounds like you surround yourself with SUBHUMANS. Neither me nor people close to me would treat a person who got hurt as a child like shit for it, that's just bizarre psycho behavior.

>>82156164
Let me break this down as easily as I can so you truly get how fucked up it is, I don't mean to whine but I guess it takes a lot of whining for a woman to acknowledge how ridiculous their standards for a partner is
>Be sa victim with ptsd
>Kinda ugly
>Spend years looksmaxxing to look decent
>Go on dates
>"just so you know I'm kinda traumatised blablabla"
>Get ghosted
>Decide to not mention it
>When sex time comes I get a flashback and the women either gets mad at me or mocks me for it
>At social gathering
>As soon as a woman as drank some alcohol she starts asking very personal questions about my sexual history
>dont want to mention rape
>get made fun of because I'm an incel
>hands are shaking all the time because of my ptsd, it's severely delibilitating and women make fun of me for it too
>why you so nervous you scared of women pussy boy?
Not a single guy has disrespected me because of this, yet for some reason women just wont leave me be but yeah I guess I'm just DELUSIONAL. Once again victim blaming is ok as long as the victim is an incel. Fuck you.
Also those examples I mentioned aren't a one time thing, it literally happens all the time. Great empathetic sensitive gender you got there, and we're supposed to.be the mindless brutes. Ridiculous.

>>82156252
2/2
my bad forgot to mention some men made fun of me for it too but in a very specific context, when a woman starts giving me shit at a party for example, they will always be some guy trying to get laid that doubles down on the bullying. But the man never initiates it.

>>82151087 (OP)
Tradcuckery was the worst fucking thing to hit this site.

>>82152933
>Men are the number one predator and abuser of women.

False.

>Ah yes, the great narrative that women are lesser beings and can't form meaningful friendships without gossip.

Stop acting like you fucking know anything, you moron. You have the most obnoxious, cocksucking typing and posting style of anyone I've ever seen on /r9k/. This "durr but fem friends visit other fem friends" horse shit is just some nonsense you pulled out of your fucking dilated axewound and are running with, nobody cares, it doesn't indicate what you think it does even if it's real, kill yourself.