Thread 82157264

any age players/age regressors/ABDLs who do it as a coping mechanism?

What got you started with it? Why are you doing it? any favorite media for regression? Just discuss in general!

meeeee but this artstyle is unnerving ew

I was naturally doing it unconsciously when I was younger because of trauma, then a boyfriend helped me kinda realize i was age regressing. that got me buying pacifiers and stimming comfortably for example. media??!!!
>Hello Kitty's Paradise
>Sailor Moon
>Digimon
>MLP
>Oswald
>Monster High
>64 Zoo Lane
>Madeline (french cartoon im canadian)

>>82157319
also im into ABDL in theory humm but dont think i'd try it irl because messy gross unless another partner wanted to introduce me

Would be pedos

>>82157319
lmao I only picked it because I know tumblr types like it and they tend to be into agere

that's so cute!!! what ended up giving it away that you were regressing?? Also great taste, personally I'm also a hello kitty fan too!!! :3c

>>82157332
hey anon, I understand that you may think that because of how it looks on the surface, but please understand that many people engage in childhood activities as a way of reclaiming them from abuse they suffered then.

For me, it was sexual abuse, neglect, and domestic violence. Being able to be a kid again in a safe way helps me regulate emotions and have a childhood of some kind on my own terms.

I was forced into a lot of adult situations and roles when younger and I got to lose out on that innocence, so I'm claiming it here and now when I do have more control.

So please don't associate people like us with many of the same abusers who victimized us. It's unfair, hurtful, and rude.

>>82157352
dissociating during sex was the big one, id even ask if I could hold plushies and stuff during it,,, noticed how childish i got when i was either very stressed or very relaxed so when i was panicking i'd shut down to regress. but also similar behavior when i was like playing video games or something all happy. I definitely knew it was happening but wasn't super familiar with the agere community as a label for that type of trauma response, also didn't want to confront it because it felt attached to trauma

My roommate came into my room once when I was sleeping with a paci and it was the most embarrassing thing ever

>>82157419
>dissociating during sex was the big one, id even ask if I could hold plushies and stuff during it,,, noticed how childish i got when i was either very stressed or very relaxed so when i was panicking i'd shut down to regress. but also similar behavior when i was like playing video games or something all happy.
awww, I'm glad someone helped you pick up on all that! Honestly a little jelly that someone didn't mention agere stuff to me earlier and encourage me to let it happen ;-;

>I definitely knew it was happening but wasn't super familiar with the agere community as a label for that type of trauma response, also didn't want to confront it because it felt attached to trauma
^.^ well it's super cool you were able to get past that and enjoy the little comfort gift you get for going through bad stuff!!

personally, my regression is something I have more control over because when I start to slip I can push it away and maintain "bigness", that said, when I'm safe and alone, I like to go full silly mode and just gush over my plushies and watch the Cinnamoroll animated series wit my paci in an goodnites on >.< its sooo comfy an just makes everything feel like its gonna be okay :3

>>82157613
omg what'd he say after?? hope he wasn't rude to you :c

>>82157709
>personally, my regression is something I have more control over because when I start to slip I can push it away and maintain "bigness", that said, when I'm safe and alone, I like to go full silly mode and just gush over my plushies and watch the Cinnamoroll animated series wit my paci in an goodnites on >.< its sooo comfy an just makes everything feel like its gonna be okay :3
awwwwuaahh that sounds soo fun!! i'm happy u have controwl over it but can relax into it as you choose, for me its more gradual but i rlly like taking time out to watch things or draw with crayons whenever i cans. talkin about it in this thread made me want to tonight and ill be jelly of your goodnites ahahah

>>82157264 (OP)
It's interesting, I'd be completely fine indulging my partner should they want me to, although I never have before, it wouldn't be out of line for me considering I have much, MUCH, stranger fixations.
Basically; I just don't think it's that weird at all, and it makes even more sense given the things I've heard from the slim few people I've met IRL who've talked about it with me, it just seems like an innocent coping mechanism for reclaiming time they lost from abuse.

>>82157800
>i rlly like taking time out to watch things or draw with crayons whenever i cans.
:3c omg crayon drawings. I've been tempted to make some of my own eventually but im kinda dum and can't like draw at all xD

I should get some cute coloring books snd colored pencils or crayons for myself some time :3333!!

>talkin about it in this thread made me want to tonight
do it!!! it's always fun and really innocent and cute to engage in ^.^

>ill be jelly of your goodnites ahahah
omg just get some ordered to like an amazon locker silly, that's what I do xD like, theyre so discrete that I sometimes wear them out and about just for comfort and reassurance.

lthey make me just feel so comforted and safe with how soft and cute they are, and ngl I do need them just a little since I tend to have small stress accidents sometimes after a pretty bad domestic incident i had about a year ago :c, but, it's never been enough to be debilitating and sometimes just having the comfort of wearing or bein little is enough to just keep it to a random droplet here and there :p

>>82157264 (OP)
I hopped on this board cuz I was tired of looking at ABDL tumblr dawg, but I guess this is fate.

The answer is yeah I have mommy issues I guess. Don't feel like getting into it rn

>>82157927
that's okayy!! just try to be nice to yourself for who you are and remember that what you're doing isn't wrong and hurts no one.

>>82158014
It is wrong and it hurts me. So does everything else though, so, why worry ig

>>82157264 (OP)
me! I listen to mommy asmr and i feel like a little kid again and it makes me cry because my mom was never like this when I was growing up
>What got you started with it?
I don't know I was just depressed and lonely and I stumbled on some mommy asmr and that's when it started

>>82158065
>It is wrong and it hurts me. So does everything else though, so, why worry ig
silly, what hurt is there in being all cute and adorable when you get some alone time? What's wrong with being so tiny and cute and silly and pure? You probably were denied that at some point in life and now you're an adult you can treat yourself to it!

Just be nice to yourself and break the taboo in some small ways, maybe get a plushie to sleep with (if you dont got one already). That alone made me sleep like 10x better :3c
>>82158083
>me! I listen to mommy asmr and i feel like a little kid again
same!! I love stuff with praise and cooing and heartbeats an stuff. it makes me just feel safe, and I dont get to feel that often so I welcome it a lot ^.^

>and it makes me cry because my mom was never like this when I was growing up
and that's okay too! by crying and mourning what you lost out on, you can process what happened and eventually come to understand yourself and feel those needs.

If regression is a way of doing that for you, then that's perfectly acceptable and okay. Your tears are there for a reason, they're there to show you that something matters to you. I think is so nice you found a safe way to express those feelings of yours!

>I don't know I was just depressed and lonely and I stumbled on some mommy asmr and that's when it started
thats how it starts for lots of people, they find one small thing they love and then find a world of stuff like it that makes them feel better.

I hope you're exploring it fully! Idk what I'd do without my paci and plushies honestly xD

have you tried branching out a bit more? Maybe that sensitive little part of you that cries from getting attention would feel a bit more soothed with some more comfort stuff!

Doesn't even need to be too kiddish, maybe just some really soft jammies. If you don't want to commit to buying anything, maybe sucking your thumb a bit will tell you if you'd like a paci! but it takes experimenting to know!

>>82157264 (OP)
The pedophilia board is /lgbt/, r9k is not for this

>>82158617
please read the post here
>>82157384

>>82157264 (OP)
unusual sexualities belong to >>>/lgbt/

>>82157264 (OP)
Is that rukia? who is the guy?

>>82159244
No need to read that. He's right.

>>82159252
theres no rule against posting about sexuality on r9k, maybe you should try being a bit more open minded and less hateful c:

>>82159391
Really? Time to make my pedophilia thread then... oh wait there's this one already.
So, what kind of children do you like :) what ages are your favorite

i think agere and abdl is fosure somewhat pedophilic and it's more dangerous to not admit that. but it's whatever like it's healthy expression between adults

>>82159401
>>82159431
This isn't a pedophilia thread. No children are involved in anything depicted here.

>>82158427
>silly, what hurt is there in being all cute and adorable when you get some alone time?
The hurt is the part where I gaslight myself to think that a woman will love me eventually, which is the only way for me to experience arousal from porn.

>>82157384
There will always be an excuse for such behavior. Many murderers or sex offenders will cite their childhood traumas as a reason for their criminal actions. And in truth such tragedies did befall them. The issue is that they used incredibly unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with their issues and they fell further and further into depravity. No one comes out the gate fucking children or slitting throats. There's a build up.

Tormenting small animals. Abusing people. Causing pain through BDSM or some such. Then comes the killing.

An attraction to animated children. Dressing as a child or having their partner do so. Pleasuring themselves discreetly at a public park. Having sexual conversations with minors. Then comes the deplorable abuses toward children.

Many people recognize these things and hence ostracize those who partake in such activities. You don't need a pacifier and children's cartoons. You need therapy. Indulging in your issues will lead you down a dark path.

>>82160696
you're being dramatic but yes OP and other age regressors should be concerned about mindless self indulgence, being puritan about fantasy and forcing people to keep everything bubbled up i don't think helps protect kids much either. being conscientious about sexual habits and not letting it become a lifestyle is what's important, delegating an hour of time a week with a trusted adult partner where you're aware of the extent these fantasies reach and have conversations about their implications is healthy.

>>82160739
>being dramatic
These things start somewhere, anon. Where would you draw the line exactly.

>delegating an hour of time a week with a trusted adult partner
Some things should not be indulged. Period.

>>82160696
>You don't need a pacifier and children's cartoons. You need therapy. Indulging in your issues will lead you down a dark path.
personally I'm in therapy for a lot of what happened to me. One of the big parts of it for me is self-acceptance and casting off harmful inhibitions. there's nothing about being cute or lovable that's inherently unhealthy so long as behavior is monitored and consequences are kept in line with.

Also, no aspect of this means im going to abuse children. this isn't some addictive drug that has tolerance to it, its a coping mechanism I engage in every couple days or so to feel better and de-stress. It's like saying that someone who plays videos games is going to eventually act out the behavior in them. It's the same insane moral puritanism.
>>82160739
>being conscientious about sexual habits and not letting it become a lifestyle is what's important, delegating an hour of time a week with a trusted adult partner where you're aware of the extent these fantasies reach and have conversations about their implications is healthy.
This is the correct answer. Coping mechanisms like these can be useful and helpful when practiced properly and mindfully. Just painting it all with the big "YOU'RE A PEDOFORK BECAUSE I DONT LIKE IT" brush is actively going to hurt people. I for one am more capable and able after I'm done coping like this because I feel less stress afterwards.

I don't know why people like you think adults are incapable of self-control and self regulation.


>>82160479
>The hurt is the part where I gaslight myself to think that a woman will love me eventually, which is the only way for me to experience arousal from porn.

well honestly anon, you are worthy, deserving, and capable of being loved. societys in a bad spot right now, but that shouldn't mean you should just torture yourself because of that. It makes no sense to just feel worse because you're already feeling bad, that's just silly!

>>82157352
>>82157384
>>82157709
>>82158014
>All this shit you have to buy
This seems like a really expensive fetish

>>82160940
you only have to buy what you want, over indulgence is not necessary at all. I think the only repeat buys that are expensive are diapers, and a lot of age regresser types aren't into that.

>>82160902
>casting off harmful inhibitions
Often times, this is language used by someone with harmful pathologies to justify their behaviors. Inhibitions are a necessity to function, and whilst there is a fine line one must remember that there are indeed lines that should not be crossed.

>no aspect of this means im going to abuse children. this isn't some addictive drug
Sexual pathologies behave differently in the brain than most other things. Hence why for example people who play Grand Theft Auto aren't so much at risk for committing cat jacking or mass shootings whilst someone who plays rape simulators and jerks off to loli porn is marked for concern. Fetishes give way to lifestyles which give way to self harm or criminal activities.

When you started in this, were you doing the same things you are doing now? Or did it start slower? Have you stabilized or do you continue to find new ways to "express yourself." People will often justify activities that bring them pleasure, comfort, or catharsis. But I want you to really sit down, look at yourself in the mirror when you are dressed as a child with a pacifier in your mouth, and ask yourself "is this healthy."

>>82161069
>Often times, this is language used by someone with harmful pathologies to justify their behaviors
So what's your point? Inhibitions are always good? If I'm inhibited from eating because of an eating disorder that makes me think I'm fat is that a good thing?

>one must remember that there are indeed lines that should not be crossed.
yes, but this isn't one of them. Just mentioning that there are inhibitions that exist does not mean there's anything wrong with this.

>whilst someone who plays rape simulators and jerks off to loli porn is marked for concern
maybe? I don't see any necessary evidence for that. I would expect that someone who likes a type of thing to go into that direction if they had the desire to go extreme with it, but I don't see how going up to a point means you're necessarily going to do more than that. There isn't a chemically addictive reward mechanism for this, just a way to be less stressed.

Furthermore, I don't understand how acting cute and childish would make someone into a pedophile, if anything by your theory that this is some weird slippery slope it'd more be wanting to be the child in that situation, which is impossible.

I just think that you think its icky and you're not actually providing any evidence or reasoning for this being a problem.

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>>82161069
>>82161148
>were you doing the same things you are doing now? Or did it start slower?

It actually started more extreme as it was more sexualized then than it is now. I had to sleep next to my cousin who was a bed-wetter who had to wear diapers to bed and that gave me a diaper fetish. I was sexually abused, physically abused, and neglected over time and often times I would use porn as a dissociative escape tool. That was unhealthy as I never felt satisfied afterwards, always finding a sense of emptiness in it even after accepting it.

Now, I've bought a little bit of gear and found myself more comfortable with exploring this stuff in a primarily non-sexual context. Sometimes sexuality comes up, but its significantly more rare now then it was then since I found more enjoyment in not being sexual and just exploring the space. When I feel small and can comfort myself with things I genuinely enjoy, I always come out of it with a lot less pressure in me and am more capable of taking on the world.

>Have you stabilized or do you continue to find new ways to "express yourself."
Generally I've stabilized, I may add a new item to it every month or so. I sometimes buy different diaper prints or maybe a new plush. I want to get some comfortable pajamas since the clothes I wear now is just a hoodie and some shorts I had lying around, it's nice, but not perfect.

>ask yourself "is this healthy."

I sometimes do this. I take pictures of myself and try to do cute poses since seeing myself like that makes me like myself and how I look. It makes me feel more at ease with myself and that im capable of liking my body just because how cute I look at times. Knowing that cute look then contributes to my mental well-being makes me feel a lot better about myself, which is very rare for me since one of the conditions I have, PTSD, makes feeling anything a lot less intense and more uncommon for me.

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OP wanted a comfy diapie thread and got confronted r9k has fallen

>>82161280
only real OGs remember r9krinkle

>>82161148
>Inhibitions are always good
As I said anon, there is a line.

>mentioning that there are inhibitions that exist does not mean there's anything wrong with this.
I can admit that it is context sensitive, but often when one says that they are "casting off harmful inhibitions" they are making an excuse for reprehensible activities. It is a phrase that is worth being examined with a jaundiced eye. And saying that it is good for you does not magically make it so. A long time ago, I found comfort in drinking alcohol until I threw up off of my back porch. I know addiction and trauma and harming oneself in an effort to cope, and I know what it looks like to justify such behavior to yourself and others.

>don't see any necessary evidence for that
I would encourage you to watch documentaries and read case files on prolific sexual predators. The things they enjoy tend to be very much in line with what I mentioned.

>don't understand how acting cute and childish would make someone into a pedophile
And it may not, as I don't know the details of your behavior (nor do I want to). However it is extremely clear from the outside looking in that regressing to wearing diapers and using pacifiers is unhealthy. It is extremely uncommon for such things to exist in complete isolation, especially if repeatedly indulged. I don't know you or the things you do, but I am absolutely willing to bet that in some way, shape, form, or fashion these things bleed into your everyday actions.

>I just think that you think its icky
You are correct on this. But consider that the human reaction of disgust is an evolutionarily necessary reaction. It prevents us from contact with "bad things," whether physical or social.

>>82161246
>started more extreme as it was more sexualized then than it is now
And while a burst of extreme sexual activity is indeed extremely unhealthy, so is turning a fetish into a lifestyle. Regularly spending money on the object of your fetish isn't a good thing.
>cont.

>>82161246
>had to sleep next to my cousin who was a bed-wetter who had to wear diapers to bed and that gave me a diaper fetish. I was sexually abused, physically abused, and neglected over time
And I am sorry to hear that. That will leave scars. But you have to recognize that they are scars. That it will drive you to engage in maladaptive coping mechanisms or traumatic reenactment. There are negative long term effects from these.

>can comfort myself with things I genuinely enjoy, I always come out of it with a lot less pressure in me and am more capable of taking on the world.
I used to tell myself very similar things. "I'm a better driver when I am drunk." "I feel more composed, less stressed by what happens around me." "It helps me to relax and unwind after a long day."

>Generally I've stabilized
I doubt this, but obviously I cannot prove as I don't have a window into your life. I will say that such changes don't have to be immediate or "extreme" in how you would view it. They often happen very gradually.

>I sometimes do this.
Do you? Or do you ignore the part of you that tells you that you look ridiculous and need to stop in favor of the part that tells you that you "look cute"

>>82161357
>but often when one says that they are "casting off harmful inhibitions" they are making an excuse for reprehensible activities.
not necessarily, do you just not believe that some inhibitions can be harmful?

>I found comfort in drinking alcohol until I threw up off of my back porch. I know addiction and trauma and harming oneself in an effort to cope, and I know what it looks like to justify such behavior to yourself and others.
Yes, alcohol does brain damage, gives you cancer, and has many proven health defects to it. This does not, and if anything, helped me get away from abusing drugs like alcohol as much to feel better.

>read case files on prolific sexual predators.
I understand there are case studies for the things and those are interesting, but those are singular people. There's not statistical data that proves that age regression stuff causes these things, at least not any i've seen. This isn't like a like meth that over-rides reward systems nor is it necessarily maladaptive (there are people who engage in it in a maladaptive way, but that can be true for even something as banal as video games, which is what I was doing for years and it was unhealthy).

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>>82157878
>considering I have much, MUCH, stranger fixations.
What kind of fixations are we talking here?

>>82161357

>It is extremely uncommon for such things to exist in complete isolation, especially if repeatedly indulged.
>I don't know you or the things you do, but I am absolutely willing to bet that in some way, shape, form, or fashion these things bleed into your everyday actions.
That's fair and that's true in my case. When im not engaging, I still do like cute stuff. I still like stuffed animals (I work at a company that has made them before, I lead a project on it). I like bright colors and I like acting soft towards people.

However, that's not because I'm an age regresser, it's because that's my personality. Before I even accepted this stuff in this way and just kept it as a shameful fetish, I still liked those things and still behaved in those ways. Even if you want to argue that acting in that way was the cause (which it wasn't for me at least), this behavior is not at all harmful.

>But consider that the human reaction of disgust is an evolutionarily necessary reaction. It prevents us from contact with "bad things," whether physical or social.
That doesn't mean something is bad, we have disgust reactions to medicine and medicine is sometimes good for us. Not being able to over-ride your personal reactions to something and asses it in reality rather than your perception is harmful.

>so is turning a fetish into a lifestyle
Maybe so, but I don't see how having a couple items for comfort is "turning your fetish into a lifestyle" I go to work, I pay my taxes, I keep up my relationships, and I do what I can for those around me. It's just instead of just watching TV, I like to cuddle stuffed animals while doing it, or wear a diaper while doing it.

>>82161403
>That it will drive you to engage in maladaptive coping mechanisms or traumatic reenactment. There are negative long term effects from these.
you still haven't mentioned any long-term negative effects of substance or with proof, you're just positing that its possible.

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>>82161403
>I used to tell myself very similar things. "I'm a better driver when I am drunk." "I feel more composed, less stressed by what happens around me." "It helps me to relax and unwind after a long day."
Yes, alcohol literally deludes your brain and disrupts thinking. That's why it's dangerous because you're not in a good state of mind to critically assess what you're doing. No part of age regression is intoxicating, it's a headspace that context can easily slip you out of. In fact, im sensitive to falling out of it when real life struggles are imminently present and bugging me.

>I doubt this
you have no reason to other than your own reaction against it.

>Or do you ignore the part of you that tells you that you look ridiculous and need to stop in favor of the part that tells you that you "look cute"
There are bad angles to it at times and im willing to acknowledge that any adult doing it will look silly in the wrong context, but I try to put effort into my appearance to minimize that for my own sake. It helps me feel better.

That said, it's not necessary to do that since it's a coping mechanism for yourself and maybe people you trust to engage in. That's it. It doesn't have to appeal to beauty standards for the same reason that wearing your pajamas on your couch doesn't have to appeal to beauty standards. No one's looking, why should you care?

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>>82157264 (OP)
Yes, but only because I'm a pedophile

>>82160902
>It makes no sense to just feel worse because you're already feeling bad, that's just silly!
Maybe you have a point. I still don't believe in the "everyone deserves love" bs though
>>82161280
>>82161327
...r9...krinkle?

>>82161428
>do you just not believe that some inhibitions can be harmful?
The operative word, Anon, was "often." Yes some inhibitions can be harmful. Largely though, they are for our protection.

>This does not
Not all forms of insidiousness are so overt. There are no long term studies on being a "little" and it is a niche enough issue that the only ones willing to do a study on it would be those with an ulterior motive.

>those are singular people
At what point can we consider it a correlation then? When multiple "singular people" engage in a niche behavior and then commit an atrocity that is rather strongly tied to the object of this behavior I would consider it grounds for concern.

>not because I'm an age regresser, it's because that's my personality
And where is the line between your fixations and "you?" I don't say these things to be a prick, but I am genuinely concerned that you have assimilated it into your identity because of the gravity of your obsession.

I understand trauma and attempting to cope, but in dealing with trauma the idea is to get back to baseline. Back to normalcy. Not to create a lifestyle around what affected you.

>we have disgust reactions to medicine and medicine is sometimes good
Consider where the reaction stems from. And sure, we can override our instincts in favor of something we KNOW is good for us, just as we can override it in favor of something we KNOW is bad. While it is a more extreme example to be certain, coporophilia comes to mind.

>wear a diaper while doing it.
The argumentative part of my brain shuts off reading this. Come on man, you have to know that isn't fuckin okay.

>haven't mentioned any long-term negative effects of substance or with proof
Indeed I don't believe there are many studies on age regressors as I previously stated. There are plenty of studies on various other sexual fetishists though, like furries and BDSM types. It's not much of a leap to consider that those would apply here.
>cont

>>82161513
>deludes your brain and disrupts thinking
So does trauma and intense desire. Just because your focus can be broken doesn't mean that it doesn't affect you in a negative manner or cannot become an obsession, I was simply giving an example of something I have been through. We can instead consider pornography addiction.

>you have no reason to other than your own reaction against it
And you have no reason to support the age regression fetish/lifestyle beyond your own positive feelings toward it.

>that any adult doing it will look silly in the wrong context,
Anon, there isn't a "right context."

>No one's looking, why should you care?
It's part of caring about yourself. My point isn't the aesthetic. If that was my concern I would have killed myself long ago because I look like a caveman. My point is that the ludicrousness of your actions appears to be lost on you because you have sunk into a depraved coping mechanism that I have reason to believe is absolutely bad for you.

>>82161632
>Maybe you have a point. I still don't believe in the "everyone deserves love" bs though
I don't say "everyone deserves love" as in "everyone should tolerate whatever everyone does forever no matter what", that would be stupid.

What I mean is that, so long as you're being responsible and trying your best to be a good person, you deserve to be treated well, including by yourself. Even if you're not where you want to be, if you're trying your best to get there, then there's no sense in shaming or hating yourself for it.

That's what love is about, being there for someone when they're trying their best to be a good person and helping them in that goal. To care for them, ensure their needs are taken care of, so that they can do good back onto the world too.

Furthermore, that means you shouldn't deny yourself comforts that actually help you feel better and make bad problems more bearable. If you know that this helps you deal with stress, then you should engage in it so you have less stress and do more good things in your life, both for yourself and others.

Anon, you deserve to be able to feel good when you know you're trying your best to be better. If you don't think you are trying your best, you still deserve a chance to make stress go away so that you aren't as overwhelmed with the things you are getting down properly so you can begin to try your best.

>>82161741
I know that's what you mean, but I still disagree

>>82161786
why disagree? what holds you back from acceptance?

>>82161632
>...r9...krinkle?
you sweet, summer child
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/search/text/r9krinkle/type/op/

>>82161693
>Largely though, they are for our protection.
a lot of mine aren't, they're bad for me and have limited me in a lot of ways and are mostly born from trauma.

>There are no long term studies on being a "little" and it is a niche enough issue that the only ones willing to do a study on it would be those with an ulterior motive.
so, there's no proof either way for harm or no harm. sounds like the only thing someone can do is just be self-aware and observant of themselves as they do it, which is what I do.

>When multiple "singular people" engage in a niche behavior and then commit an atrocity that is rather strongly tied to the object of this behavior I would consider it grounds for concern.
and how about the ones who dont? are you just going to hone in on those that do without considering those who don't?

>And where is the line between your fixations and "you?"
it's all me. I do all of it, im both someone who is employed and i do and like these things. There's no actual separation between someone and themselves. Maybe you can only show parts at certain times, but the whole is the whole.

>I understand trauma and attempting to cope, but in dealing with trauma the idea is to get back to baseline. Back to normalcy. Not to create a lifestyle around what affected you
That's never happening, no actions taken can undo what happened to me and those things have, like with everyone, influenced who I am. Everyone's past influences the present, and that's not necessarily a good or bad thing.

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>>82161817
Those threads were recurring???

Anyways to answer your question the thing is even though a person might theoretically deserve love for trying their best, in practice that will never apply to me because I have never met anyone who can understand me or who I can understand at a basic level. Love has always been out of reach for me, so what does it matter if I "deserve" it or not?

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>>82161857
>you have to know that isn't fuckin okay.
can you stop being a massive judgmental faggot about this? you haven't once in any of this given any concrete argument or evidence for anything here, it's just pontificating of "well, what IF its bad for you? it's weird! that must mean it's bad!". That's horse shit and I know you don't apply that logic consistently.

Most people would view you as weird for using 4chan. That doesn't mean it's necessarily harmful, even if it creates a disgust reaction among people. You will defend it and you'll defend video games in the same way I defend this, but you refuse to acknowledge that this can be healthy and you refuse to it objectively because you dont like it personally.

There are parts of this that can be harmful and people should be aware of them. People can over-indulge, they can show vulnerability to the wrong people, and they can do stupid bodily harm to themselves as a way of engaging in this cope. That doesn't mean the cope itself is bad no more than 4chan and video games are bad. You're actively arguing inconsistently and in bad faith.

>There are plenty of studies on various other sexual fetishists though, like furries and BDSM types. It's not much of a leap to consider that those would apply here.

Sure, fine, i'll grant that they're similar in some ways. ABDL is a sexual fetish and may be related to those. What's the specific point you're trying to prove by saying this? You're saying "those would apply here", what are "those" in this case? You can't make a concrete argument about anything and just weasel around in vagueness.

>We can instead consider pornography addiction.
Yes, what about it? In my case specifically, I am significantly less interested in sex and pornography ever since I opted to self-accept and do this stuff non-sexually. I don't get what your point is here either.

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>>82161739
>>82161693

>And you have no reason to support the age regression fetish/lifestyle beyond your own positive feelings toward it.
Yes, that's exactly my point. It's helpful to me, so I engage in it.

Other people may find themselves interested for the same reasons as me, so I share information about it and encourage what I think is a harmless coping mechanism in others.

>Anon, there isn't a "right context."
yes there is, in private or around trusted individuals, when you don't have anything urgent to do, you can do it and that's the context for it.

>My point is that the ludicrousness of your actions appears to be lost on you because you have sunk into a depraved coping mechanism that I have reason to believe is absolutely bad for you.
you still haven't proven its depraved outside of just vaguely saying its abnormal while being on a board exclusively used by abnormal people.

You even admitted to being ugly, which is an abnormality people have disgust reactions towards. That doesn't mean you are intrinsically bad, it just means people are judgemental. That's all that means.

>>82161908
>Love has always been out of reach for me, so what does it matter if I "deserve" it or not?
Because you are a person and you can direct it at yourself in spite of the hatefulness and cruelty of others. Their awfulness should not dictate how you treat yourself. Furthermore, finding support in people like you can give you shreds of the care and acceptance that you do deserve.

I found the age regression community on tumblr, while a bit too focused on purity, rather accepting and supportive. I also found ADISC, while a bit broad in its scope, very willing to accept people who just want to be comforted in the ways you do (even if you're not big into the full ABDL or diaper stuff).

>>82162009
You have an interesting view on things anon. I hope you have a good life.

>>82162115
>You have an interesting view on things anon. I hope you have a good life.
I hope you do too anon! you deserve to be allowed to care for yourself and engage in stuff that makes you feel better so you can be better. So, next time you find yourself listening to mommy asmr (or doing whatever else comforts you!) and that bad feeling comes up, just remind yourself you're doing what you need to do to be less stressed so you can be better c:

>>82161857
>there's no proof either way for harm or no harm.
Just because it isn't exhaustively proven via study doesn't mean that we cannot reasonably assume that there are negative implications to your actions. I don't have to have see a study on the effects of high speed impacts on a 2003 Chevy Trailblazer to understand that driving my car off of a bridge will probably destroy it.

>and how about the ones who dont?
Not all heroin addicts overdose. People put too much focus on those guys, you know?

>but the whole is the whole.
If there is a part of you that you know shouldn't be shown to other people, it's likely that part of you isn't good. I can tell you I have anger issues. I don't want that to be a part of me, and I take a lot of steps to whittle that part of me down. In many ways I am not the person I used to be, and for the better.

>no actions taken can undo what happened to me
None of us can change the past. That's not what I'm telling you to do. My point is that broken people should attempt to repair the damage done to them rather than pretending the damage is okay or internalizing it as a core part of them. You don't have to be broken.

>>82161936
>can you stop being a massive judgmental faggot about this?
Why would I? We all make judgements about what is good and bad based on our experiences and the information available to us. Yes I will harshly judge something like this because it's pretty damn gross to be an adult watching Teletubbies and wearing a diaper. For Christ's sake, you pay taxes, as you said earlier. Obviously you can control your bowels and you don't need a diaper. You are wallowing in trauma.

>Most people would view you as weird for using 4chan
Rightfully so. Most of the people on here are asshats and this site is probably bad for me. As it stands though, I'm bored at work and Pixel Dungeon only keeps me entertained for so long. Not that Vidya is good for me either.
>cont

>>82161936
>arguing inconsistently and in bad faith
I think I've been pretty consistent in my standpoint and why I have it. As for bad faith, I will admit to bias. As you said, I do in fact think this is gross and icky and I don't like it. However I do think there are valid reasons for this and that, as I said, it's bad for you.

>You're saying "those would apply here", what are "those" in this case?
Long term case studies on the ways that individuals' lives and mentalities are affected by living out sexual fetishes and lifestyles. There may not be specific data for ABDL and shit but there's definitely data on what living out a fetish does to people.

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough on that.

>what about it?
The effects it has on someone and the similarities to other sexual pathologies. While with drugs and alcohol you can't "snap out" of what you are doing you can absolutely stop beating off for awhile to go do something else, but there are still negative consequences to it. Just like you can "snap out" of ageplay, but there are still negative consequences.

>>82161979
>that's exactly my point
I think you missed mine. We can argue "feelings" all day. In fact, "feelings" is why we're talking about this in the first place. But if your mind has been warped by trauma and addiction then your feelings are going to lead you to do some bad things.

>in private or around trusted individuals
In private and around trusted individuals I could engage in self-harm via cutting. That doesn't mean it's good for me.

Yes I realize that what you do isn't as viscerally harmful because it doesn't draw blood. No that doesn't mean it can't still hurt you.

>haven't proven its depraved
What will prove to you that it is depraved? Watching TV programs for babies while wearing a diaper doesn't sound off to you?

>doesn't mean you are intrinsically bad
It does mean I am intrinsically less desirable than a more attractive person. This is reality, and it is something I understand and accept.

>>82157264 (OP)
i want an irl daddy, not sure how to go about that tho. all of my interactions have been online :/

>>82157264 (OP)
DDlg would be the ideal relationship. I'm not interested in diapers or even acting like a child, I'm just kind of girlfailure and would prefer a guy to dote on me as opposed to an equal partnership.

>>82162240
>I don't have to have see a study on the effects of ... probably destroy it.

then please make a concrete argument to prove that it's wrong.

>Not all heroin addicts overdose
the problem with heroin isn't the overdose, it's the chemical reactions in the opioid receptors that we can prove get atrophied with repeated use, causing increasing need for heroin. There's concrete cause and effect there. You haven't established that about agere.

>If there is a part of you that you know shouldn't be shown to other people, it's likely that part of you isn't good
I don't show my penis to people randomly, therefore my penis is bad. This is your logic.

>You don't have to be broken.
I agree, this is why I am in therapy and am trying to grapple with a lot of my inhibitions around my desires and I want to make the desires I do have productive for me. I rather not try to suppress and extinguish this desire, as I did so in the past, and it tormented me. It's better to integrate and reform than to suppress and suffer.

>Obviously you can control your bowels and you don't need a diaper. You are wallowing in trauma.
Of course I don't necessarily need them for their purpose (I do have some small stress-induced incontinence for urine, but that's not the primary reason I wear them). I am not wallowing in trauma with this, im trying to reclaim a childhood I was denied on my own terms with things I enjoy. Wallowing in trauma is something I have done in the past, usually by being stressed out and dwelling on the events. This coping mechanism allows me to self-soothe and remove that stress, which in turn, causes the dwelling to happen less. It's a coping mechanism first and foremost.

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>>82162240
>this site is probably bad for me.
>Not that Vidya is good for me either.
maybe in how much or how you use the site, but the site itself doesn't have to be negative. I've had many great experiences with many different things when I do my best to make it healthy. the /g/ board taught me many skills and video games have been great bonding experiences. Similarly, age regression has shown me things I value in myself and in the world. It's also given me a chance to take back what I was denied and it helps me self-regulate and not spiral out of control again, life i've done in the past. That's a healthy addition to my life.

>>82162356
>I think I've been pretty consistent in my standpoint and why I have it.
you have been, but that's not my point.

>it's bad for you.
please give me concrete reasons why its bad. What specifically about it is wrong? Not just that this thing I do in private is socially awkward and people think it's gross, but that it itself is damaging.

>shit but there's definitely data on what living out a fetish does to people.
then please provide it and also provide the ways this data can be used allegorically for ABDL/Age regression stuff.

>but there are still negative consequences.
what are those negative consequences. This is what you keep weaseling around and is why im accusing you of arguing in bad faith. Give specifics.

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>>82162356
>But if your mind has been warped by trauma and addiction then your feelings are going to lead you to do some bad things.
Just because you're traumatized does not mean you're incapable of self-reflection or self-understanding. PTSD in particular has triggering things that can cause bouts of overwhelming fear and apprehension, but that doesn't mean that, in a sane state of mind, that you can't think and that people with mental illnesses do not have any agency at all.

I can look at this thing myself in a sane state of mind, like right now, and asses it for what it is. More often than not, the self-hate is high when my illness is running rampant.

Also, what are the "bad things", please be specific. you keep refusing to be specific.

>I could engage in self-harm via cutting. That doesn't mean it's good for me.
It's not because wounding your flesh is objectively putting yourself at grave risk and danger of infection and harm for a bodily high that comes from the feeling of the pain. That's not what age regression is.

>No that doesn't mean it can't still hurt you.
then please be specific in the way that it can.

>What will prove to you that it is depraved?
If it does tangible harm to me and others that is unmitigated and unacceptable for the gains realized by the behavior itself. If the cost is greater than the reward, then it's not something to be done.

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>>82162789
>I'm just kind of girlfailure and would prefer a guy to dote on me as opposed to an equal partnership.
honestly I think that's every relationship ever from time to time, so long as its not a 24/7 thing, wanting to be coddled and doted on occasion is perfectly normal.

It's only modern dating that has normalized the though that relationships should be cold, lifeless, transactional, and where sacrificing for the other is seen as "icky".

>>82162812
>the problem with heroin isn't the overdose
Either you're missing my point or avoiding it on purpose. Just because you don't see the overt and immediate negative consequences of an issue doesn't mean they don't bubble under the surface. Also, just because the worst case scenario doesn't happen to everyone who does it does not mean it is safe

>don't show my penis to people randomly
Part of your personality, dipshit. Not your cock.

>not try to suppress and extinguish this desire,
People with anger issues don't have a room in their house where they throw shit and punch the wall.

>trying to reclaim a childhood
A diaper is not the way to recreate a childhood experience. It is a regression brought about through trauma that was experienced at that age. There is no "reclaiming" a time when you had no agency because you were an infant.

>shown me things I value in myself and in the world
Such as...?

>make a concrete argument to prove that it's wrong.
>what are those negative consequences
>be specific in the way that it can.
>what are the "bad things"
The issue here is specificity and honesty. There are myriad ways that overindulgence in a fetish or lifestyle can cripple someone and I don't know the specifics of your situation. I don't even know if you are willing to be honest with me or yourself about whether or not you are affected in such ways by your actions. I have known many addicts and have been one myself, being able to admit that your life is affected in adverse ways by your problem is not something everyone can do and is one of the biggest hurdles in overcoming an addiction. But for the sake of giving an answer; the issues could be
>financial distress
>social withdrawal
>work or social issues brought on by devoting too much time to the addiction
>maladaptive stress response
>phsical harm caused by partaking in the fetish or addiction
>inability to maintain an intimate or romantic relationship
>becoming abused or an abuser in a romantic relationship

>>82163191
>Also, just because the worst case scenario doesn't happen to everyone who does it does not mean it is safe
also you've never provided the worst case scenario or any actual tangible bad thing that can happen.

>Part of your personality
Even if you want restrict this to just parts of your personality, I would not show the same kind of care and affection that I would to a lover or a close friend that I would to a random person. Not everyone's entitled to that vulnerability, that doesn't mean that it's bad.

>People with anger issues don't have a room in their house where they throw shit and punch the wall.
No, some do. They get things like home gyms and areas they can "blow off steam". Honestly, that's perfectly healthy and normal.

Even people who don't have that in their home, some people with anger issues will go and pay money to go break shit in designated areas for it, or they'll just buy a gym membership and work off their anger that way.

none of that's unhealthy at all, and honestly is a good outlet. I don't see how that can be a negative.

>A diaper is not the way to recreate a childhood experience. It is a regression brought about through trauma that was experienced at that age.
Because of that cousin I was with, diapers are de-territorialized from just infancy to me. They're just cute and comfy in my eyes.

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>>82163191
>Such as...?
I genuinely do have a soft spot for things that are innocent and desperately want to protect them from harm and that's very important to me. I softness I feel for other people who age regress comes from a sympathy in me for people like me, but also a love for that which is innocent in the world.

>financial distress
I keep track of how much I spent on this and try to keep it to a reasonable amount in a month. I do what I can to not over-indulge or over-consume items just for the sake of having something new. It's part of my budget and I manage my finances well. I have lots of money stored away from working, im allowed to have this.

>social withdrawal
I have a lot of social anxiety and inhibitions about going around people. Being able to make myself less stressed gives me more mental bandwidth to be able to do something hard like interact with others. Usually I age regress before bed (or after something extremely stressful for me), so I rarely ever forgo social interaction for age regression. Even the few times I have, I was not in the mood to talk anyways because I was shaken up by something.

>work or social issues brought on by devoting too much time to the addiction
I had that problem with drinking, and that problem has been curbed quite a bit by using this to stop being stressed instead. I try to put my focus on my duties first when my mental health permits me to. when I feel fine, i get some decent work done. When I do not, I cannot. That's mostly due to having a mental illness rather than regression. I haven't missed a deadline because I was "too busy" regressing.

>maladaptive stress response
that's vague, define maladaptive.

>phsical harm caused by partaking in the fetish or addiction
That has not happened to me. I think the worst thing that's happened is I bonked my head one time while getting up off the floor to grab something.

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>>82163191
>inability to maintain an intimate or romantic relationship
This is a bit of a worry, but i've come to terms with the fact that the only way someone is going to love me is if they are capable of completely accepting me for all that I am, this includes coping mechanisms born of trauma and other long-term effects. It's fair to say that I should do the same for another as well, and there are plenty of female age regression types (both sexual [DDLG for example] and non-sexual) that would be willing to accept me. I just unfortunately have not found one.

>becoming abused or an abuser in a romantic relationship
I worry about being taken advantage of with this too because its a vulnerable and sensitive part of me. That doesn't mean I have to get rid of it, it just means i must be careful.

I am also very cautious with how I display my interests. I know they make people uncomfortable and they're not obligated to put up with what they do not want to. However, I do know that if this part of me is intolerable to them, I cannot be with them as without in some way compromising or hiding who I am. I'm not going to demand someone who can't tolerate me to do so, it's ineffective in most cases, and where it is effective, it is abuse. I do not want to be an abuser like those who have wronged me.

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I want to be a little BOY!
I want to go on ADVENTURES!
I want to experience YOUNG LOVE!
I want to be Ash Ketchum so bad...

>>82163338
>never provided the worst case scenario
Don't know it outright for this one. Could be pedophilia. Could be something else. Addictions all have some nuance to them.

>would not show the same kind of care and affection that I would to a lover or a close friend
Of course not, still not what I mean. I don't have much I'm willing to hide from people I care about. They know I have depression, they know my political and religious affiliations and opinions, they know my hobbies. There's not really anything you could find in my house that has the potential to ruin any relationships I've already formed with anyone I care about. I doubt that many of your close friends and family know about the age regression, and for good reason.

>They get things like home gyms and areas they can "blow off steam"
Normal for people who don't have anger issues. I have anger issues and I do MMA, doesn't mean I feel anger when sparring or practicing or weightlifting.

Anger is solved through therapy and mental exercise, not by the gym.

>>82163375
>genuinely do have a soft spot for things that are innocent
Did you not have it before? I have some childhood trauma myself but unrelated to the trauma I absolutely love children and want to protect them, especially from predators.

>define maladaptive
Think shutting down, sobbing in public, a need to get out of the situation and go partake in the addiction, etc...

The things I listed are examples. Whether or not they particularly apply to you is between you and God I guess, but there are also dozens of other issues that can be caused by addiction/fetish.

>>82163570
>I doubt that many of your close friends and family know about the age regression, and for good reason.
yes, most don't because of mentalities like yours where they insist that something is a problem without evidence just because they personally think its icky.

>Anger is solved through therapy and mental exercise, not by the gym.
of course, but blowing off steam is functional and works to get it out of your system.

>I have some childhood trauma myself but unrelated to the trauma I absolutely love children and want to protect them, especially from predators.
I have a lot of trouble assessing my own emotional state and reactions to things, so while I always passively hated predators, being able to experience a fraction of what I lost and knowing that other people have been denied this fuels me with hate for predators. I also hate them because what they did to me personally.

>Think shutting down, sobbing in public, a need to get out of the situation and go partake in the addiction, etc...
This is mostly due to PTSD symptoms and that's been mitigated with better coping mechanisms than drugs, therapy, and the support of friends.

>>82163675
>because of mentalities like yours
If the general consensus of healthy, well adjusted and intelligent people says that something is bad, it might just be bad.

>blowing off steam is functional and works to get it out of your system.
Fair point. I still don't think dedicating financial and physical space to it is healthy though. Besides, physically blowing off steam largely works because of endorphins produced via physical exertion.

>mostly due to PTSD symptoms
And I believe that. But I can't help but wonder if regression play also contributes by allowing you into the mindset that such things are simply an expression of who you are or some such

>>82163761
>If the general consensus of healthy, well adjusted and intelligent people says that something is bad, it might just be bad.
you keep saying this same shit over and over again. this isn't an argument, you're just appealing to common beliefs without good reasoning. by your metric witch burning is okay because "healthy, well adjusted and intelligent people says that something is bad".

you're actually a fucking moron if you think like this.

>I still don't think dedicating financial and physical space to it is healthy though
why not? people make rooms for TVs and playing games, having a gym or an area in your room for being small is far from a problem. its your personal home, you're allowed to do what you want with it. the point is to tailor it to your own needs

>I can't help but wonder if regression play also contributes by allowing you into the mindset that such things are simply an expression of who you are or some such
I think the only person capable of saying that is me, because I live in my body and feel my feelings and not other people.

>>82163803
>witch burning is okay
I honestly wonder if it wouldn't have been better to keep doing it, given the state of society. You ever met a chick that practices Wicca? They're fuckin insufferable.

>actually a fucking moron
I believe in what is best for society. Sometimes that does involve ostracizing people or even killing them.

>people make rooms for TVs and playing games, having a gym or an area in your room for being small is far from a problem
Neither of those are sexual fetishes or aberrant lifestyles. In fact working out has massive proven health benefits and is necessary for humans. If I had a room with a masturbation chair where the walls were covered in doujin panels and I had a "dick sucker 4000" machine in it, that probably wouldn't be healthy.

>only person capable of saying that is me, because I live in my body and feel my feelings
Fair, hence why getting to the bottom of what is maladaptive and what is helpful about your habits is such an issue. I don't know you, but from the outside looking in it looks like something is very, very wrong.

I want to be reincarnated as a BRAT!

>>82163908
man we've been takling in circles for an hour and all I learned so far is that you're really incapable of providing anything particularly wrong with things you don't like, you just want to kill people randomly for disagreeing with you out of some weird feeling that it'd "benefit society" to hurt innocent people, and you just want to judge people you don't understand for being weird without ever having any actual justifications for your concerns besides "it icky and i trust icky feeling over actual thinking"

I don't really value any kind of opinion you're going to give me since all you seemingly can do is vaguely wave a cane at people for doing things that you personally don't like. you just make judgements based on vague vibes instead of genuine understanding or care for why someone does something or how it could negatively effect them. your most convincing argument is that "there may be studies on some BDSM culture that you could in theory potentially relate negatively to age regression as a coping mechanism", and even then you didn't provide a singe shred of evidence or a study or really anything to go down that line of thought.

you're intellectually dishonest and your reasoning skills are poor. I don't think there's anything of merit im going to get out of replying to you any further.

>>82163986
>incapable of providing anything particularly wrong with things you don't like,
Pretty sure I was able to provide you with specific examples of ways that fetishes negatively affect people. As to which ones apply to you, yeah I don't know because I haven't heavily researched age play as I really, REALLY don't want to.

>without ever having any actual justifications for your concerns
Mental health in general has declined in correlation with the normalization of aberrant sexual fetishes and attractions in society. Now, that's not the only factor, but it is a factor.

>i trust icky feeling over actual thinking
I do indeed trust my intuition. The few times I have gone against it things have ended poorly for me.

>there may be studies on some BDSM culture that you could in theory potentially relate negatively to age regression
Not what I said, friendo. There are specific negative consequences for people who indulge in sexual fetishes to an extreme degree. Studies that cover pet play, furries, BDSM, and some other shit. It's a commonality across people who indulge in weird ass fetishes. People intuitively know there is something wrong with those who do such things before the pen has met paper on why exactly it is wrong. If you really want I can try and dig up one of the studies on it.

>don't think there's anything of merit im going to get out of replying to you any further.
Whatever you feel like doing, hoss. I won't keep you.

Well now that that's over, we can have a real conversation ig

Does anyone here experience actual "little space"? What does it feel like? What triggers it?

>>82164478
just cute stuff and being overwhelmed but not having it in me to lash out.

>>82164921
Huh okay. What does it feel like? Is it really a whole different mental state, like dreaming?

>>82157264 (OP)
>What got you started with it?
19 when i started taking various controlled sedatives lobotomizing myself and returning to my younger IQ
>why are you doing it
wanting to return to times when i was happy
>>82157319
>>MLP
this. it was most of my childhood as a zoomer

>>82165025
You're purposefully lobotomizing yourself?