Thread 82178828

>Left wing dictator
Starves his country
>Right wing dictator
Saves his country
Its that simple folks.

by definition, dictatorship is rightwing

>>82178828 (OP)
The left hates him too. Even in the US they hate him. This is despite saving his country.

>>82178841
So what words would you use to describe Castro or Stalin?

>>82178828 (OP)
History shows again and again that no matter how good a dictator is, the US will depose him as soon as he stops being useful. Bukele will do something one day that will turn him into the Central American Hitler

>Left wing dictator
Saves his country

>>82178852
saving your country is chuddy ok

criminals deserve rights, people who want a lawful safe society are chuddy hitlers

>>82178892
When did the US depose Spain's Franco or Yugoslavia's Tito?

>>82178828 (OP)
Bukele is NOT a dictator. He is really popular with the common people in his country.

>>82179053
>neither of them were in the US's vicinity
They've been doing it in Latin America since the US has been a country. One perfect example, similar to Bukele, is Arbenz. Mark my words, history will repeat itself.

Dictators can be good short term but horrible long term. Or better said if they become horrible you wont be able to stop them.

>>82178841
By definition, dictatorships are authoritarian, which go in either side of the political spectrum, from right-wing authoritarians (ex.: Hitler) to left-wing dictators (Pol Pot)

>>82179021
Bros.. he's gonna get Sankara'd isnt he?

>>82178828 (OP)
He who saves his country violates no law.

>>82178828 (OP)
Maduro is left wing so, he's a democratically elected leader, and he saved his country from being a globohomo American colony without any control over its own oil reserves. At least now, Venezuela exists, is independent, is a part of the BRICS+ alliance, and its people are in control of its industries, unlike in Argentina where under Milei, average Argentines are starving while all the natural resources, including rare earth minerals, are owned by American and Israeli businesses who pay no taxes at all.

>>82178828 (OP)
>Left wing dictator
Raises his country from irrelevant backwater to industrial military superpower

>Right wing dictatorship
Plunges his country from military industrial super power into irrelevant backwater

>>82179108
nta
i am not familiar with either. in what ways is bukele similar to arbenz

>>82178892
Nigga he is leasing his concentration camps to the US he already is Central American Hitler.

>>82179574
Both men in your pic were left wing tho. They were both socialists

>>82179477
No post will top this one. This is why I, as a devout third positionist, cannot in good faith condemn Israel.

>>82179066
Stalin was also super popular. So is Mao, even to this day.

Man, El Salvador was a fucking hellhole because Maras. Bukele was the best thing could happen to them, doesnt matter if you fucking burgers cry about it.

>>82179477
This quote is completely fake.

>>82180661
>They were both socialists
Fuck off Steven Crowder

>>82178828 (OP)
>>82179021
The thing Bukele and Traore have in common is that they're both millenials. It's not about left or right, a country is best ruled by someone who isn't shitting himself in adult diapers.

>>82179574
You will still never be a woman commie tranny

>>82178828 (OP)
>Right wing dictator
Sells out his country to the Jews

>>82181093
You're thinking of Milei, Bukele is actually pretty based, probably cause he's Palestinian and secretly hates Jews.

>>82181093
qrd on bukelele?

>>82181117
Jew worship is an intrinsic feature of rightism. If he is not selling the country out to Jews, then he is not right wing. You know is possible to be neither right or left, some people have escaped the NPC axis.

>>82181149
I'd argue that he skirts the line between right and left. He's done a lot of public works with things like heavy investment into infrastructure and threatening large corporations so they would keep food prices down, but he's also very much about law and order as well as retarded memecoins (unfortunately) so he's pretty obviously third position of some sort.

>>82181201
>law and order
Do you think USSR was not strict on that aspect? China?

>>82179574
Why does the truth make chuds seethe so hard? Is it because they realize they are in fact the weak men who create hard times? Hitler was an angry incel who farted constantly and did meth. Stalin was a Chad who had multiple wives and fathered offspring. Yet chuds always identify with shitler. Does a real man use his time to hurt others and produce no offspring? Or does a real man help others and create a positive legacy?

>>82181117
The internet describes him to be "vocally pro-Israel" and overall silent on the Gaza situation right now. Very sussy

>>82181342
It's over brehs. He was ZOG all this time

>>82181342
He made one tweet comparing Hamas to MS-13 literally the day after October 7th, find me any mainstream politicians who didn't at least say that October 7th was bad. He hasn't mentioned anything else since then because he's a dictator in LATAM, pissing off the US would be the last thing he wants. All I know is that he values his countries sovereignty and his people love him, that's all I care about.

>>82181342
>Right wing dictator
>ZOGGED his country

Many such cases

>>82181213
Trotskyites call the USSR red fascist for a reason, and calling China left wing is a pretty fuckin big stretch. Not to mention how the economy of El Salvador is still capitalist, not anything resembling state socialism. Most you can argue is that it's a corporatist economy within a social democratic framework, which combined with the general authoritarianism of Bukele makes him a decent analog for modern fascism.

>>82181416
>communism has never been tried
Same fucking argument every fucking time.

>>82181245
You're a tranny what would you know of leaving a legacy behind? Ack yourself.

>>82181501
That's not what I said, I just mentioned that Bukele isn't socialist like the USSR was, and if you actually think China is socialist then you're a retard.

>>82181548
That's exactly what you said.
USSR also had law and order. So does DPRK.
And China is socialist.

>>82181552
And? The DPRK is economicslly socialist like rhe USSR was, China is not. I'd called El Salvador and China both right wing.

>>82181560
There is no private property ownership in China.

>>82181561
What? It's a market economy with billionaires, they obviously have private property.

>>82181569
Nope. The land and companies are collectively or state controlled. At least read up on what you're arguing.

>>82178841
Liar like all leftists have no shame

>>82178828 (OP)
You mean economically right? Because everywhere that is socially right are the shittiest places in the world. Singapore is maybe the only example I can think of that contradicts this though Singapore is a weird blend of far left and far right policies, maybe Poland and Hungary but they are kind of shitty still and Hungary's right wing government is currently tanking their economy with chudonomics

>>82178852
You know he worked with the gangs to get elected, right? Dude is corrupt as fuck as just wants to silence all those who have evidence on him

>>82181573
That's why it's called state capitalism. The private billionaires have "state" property that effectively functions as private property with government oversight.

>>82181342
OH HEEEILL NAW

>>82178828 (OP)
I live in Venezuela. We are not starving. In fact, my salary as a petrol engineer here is comparable to that of an American engineer. The real problem is that the provate sector here, which tolerates Maduro through patronage, pays their employees very little and keeps raising prices. We started using crypto exchangeable for petrol commodity futures to circumvent the devaluation of our currency by the elites who hoard wealth in dollars and renminbi. Those who are educated can easily survive and live very well.
Maduro was elected and expanded democracy. More people get more of a say in how their communities are run, and people aren't just murdered for no reason with their killers being free like pre-Chavez. While I don't support Maduro because he is a milquetoast nationalist and refuses to challenge the elites directly, nobody in Venezuela says he isn't better than the murderous actual starvation regime pre-Chavez. Back then, people actually died of malnutrition and starvation... and on purpose.

For reference, 15% of venezuela in 2024 was food insecure
In United States, that number is 13.5%.
We are not that different. Maduro is just Venezuelan Trump but slightly left.

Why is it whenever leftists and liberals are met with right wing success stories they start dilating in rage?

>>82182784
>my salary as a petrol engineer here is comparable to that of an American engineer
Your GDP per capita is ~1/20th of the US's nominally, and 1/10th when adjusted PPP.

>>82182116
The other way around. The billionaires have to work with the state. The state owns that land and company.

>>82182116
So state capitalism is still capitalism? Why can't we have it in the West?

>>82179574
>Raises his country from irrelevant backwater to industrial military superpower

By killing hundreds of millions. By empowering the state to rape, torture, humilliate and disposes anyone (literally to the very top) it pleases. Subjecting children to slave labour. The elderly to a live burial in a mass grave. By transforming a culturally normative country for it's day to hell on earth, where the wicket thrive and the innocent is destroyed , every day, in every way.

If you think this is an achievement or win for you, or for anyone you are pittifull. You are one of the fatefull communist who'd cheer to the glory of this system, yet you would be ground into dust all the same.

>>82183208
>GDP per capita

>>82183208
>GDP per capita (2)

>>82183208
Just nominally, my salary is about $140k USD/year with inflation matching clause +5%, meaning that my salary increases by the CPI and 5% higher in pure value. You forget that we are a massive oil producer, and petrol engineers are the most lucrative jobs. Even many young doctors don't make that much. What do you think happens to professionals during inflation? Our request for higher wages is fulfilled because the ruling class can't afford to exist without us, and there are no indians coming here to replace brain drain

>>82183484
so what you're saying is brown people bad?

>>82180661
nat soc isn't socialism nanonon

>>82183504
don't you feel bad earning 20x most people around you?

>>82183505
There are Whites in the video too. Either the Japanese are the master race or GDP is a fake number. We both know it's the latter. US GDP is just numbers chaning cells on a spreadsheet, companies buying other companies.

>>82183510
>national SOCIALISM is not socialism
Ok buddy

>>82183470
>>82183484
That's cherrypicking tho. American cities are richer and more prosperous, even in your webms you can see how almost everyone drives a car, while in Japan, people are poor and can't afford personal vehicles other than bicycles.

>>82183470
>>82183484
Obviously GDP doesn't capture the infrastructure level and the quality of the people and society, but if it takes most people in your country a year's salary to buy a laptop that a first worlder could buy after a month, it's fair to say your country is poor and worse off for it.

>>82183534
it isn't. it was just to try to legitimize themselves to the left.

>>82183559
If you aren't trolling, Japan has well-developed public transport. A lot of people don't even think of getting a car.
>>82183562
And GDP doesn't capture that either. Unless you account for inequality, GDP does not give you the "average" person's purchasing capacity.

>>82183590
>Japan has well-developed public transport.
That's because almost no one can afford a car there, unless they're in Yakuza.
>A lot of people don't even think of getting a car.
I'm pretty sure if they were given an opportunity (money), they'd choose a car over public transit, just like any other person.

>>82183515
Yes, of course. My family was poor as shit pre-Chavez and living in slums. Development does not happen overnight, and you right wingers don't understand economics or politics and just believe whatever the super rich tell you because you are easily brainwashed.
The only reason I got an education, internship, and finally a good job is thanks to Chavez opening those doors to the people like my family in the slums and jungles, instead of giving everything and all of it to the low IQ nepo babies whose families are already rich and have US or EU or Lebanese citizenship too. There are hundreds of thousands like me. We wish it for everyone, but it takes generations to turn a country of latifundia serfs into a country of middle-class mobility. Look how long it took China to become wealthiest in the world

>>82183590
>And GDP doesn't capture that either. Unless you account for inequality, GDP does not give you the "average" person's purchasing capacity.
It's fair to say that the mean and median strongly correlate, and the only remainder is business expense, which tends to raise wealth in the long term.
Going by median income Venezuela is even poorer btw.

>>82183534
>the democratic people's Republic of korea is not democratic
Okay, retard

>>82183616
GDP does not accurately represent people's income either.
You can compare median income for that. Nobody is arguing that Venezuela is rich.
GDP uses fake numbers just to show actually developed countries like Japan as "stagnant."

>>82183619
It is democratic thoughbeit, average Koreans participate in elections and are free to choose from a list of candidates.

Leftists are so fucking pathetic lol

>>82183724
what makes you say that? I want to learn and improve

>>82179574
My favorite meme is when people call Hitler right wing, when he was clearly a libcuck.

>>82179574
weimar germany was zimbabwe tier, hitler turned the country into a superpower in less than a decade
why do commies lie so much

>>82181245
>truth
this is the truth >>82183824
what is it with leftists blatantly lying about reality constantly? they even think men are women

>>82183824
>>82183854
Didn't he kill himself because his country got bombed to dust?

>>82179574
>>Right wing dictatorship
>Plunges his country from military industrial super power into irrelevant backwater
the nazis turned germany into a military industrial superpower and the jewish western & commie worlds feared it so they destroyed it

>>82183864
He died like a man because he refused to flee his capital even when he could have tried to hide
Unlike you who will die a freak and no one will remember you, your own parents are ashamed of you, leftie troonie

>>82183864
yea the nazis couldnt win a war on both sides against mutliple super powers
but what they did for germany in the span of a decade was amazing, a country completely cut off from the international banks thrived massively, who'd have thought
but we live in an evil world so it was destroyed

the human race lost world war 2, and now we're all slaves to the international bankers that h warned us about

>>82183872
I guess jews really are the master race then if they could destroy their enemy even though he was not even really holocausting them.

>>82183882
who is talking about jews and da master race? im pointing out that the commie is lying about history and so far nobody has rebuked what i've said

the nazis uplifted germany from poverty into super power status, thats the truth

>>82183881
So jews really are the master race. Too bad he didn't think of giving his troops winter gear.

>>82183892
shut the fuck up commie cockroach >>82183891

>>82183891
And they also brought it back into irrelevance due to greed. That is also the truth. If they didn't start the war, Germany could have still been a super power.

>>82183904
totally the war was a bad idea
but hitler was totally in the right to reject the international jewish banks, and we should all do the same today

>>82183916
Jews won against the nazis and they still are winning with the USA. Nobody is rejecting the banks except some Africans. Are jews just that competent?

It took the entire world 6 years to beat down Nazi Germany, a country smaller than Texas.
Meanwhile the Soviet Union, a country far bigger than America, suicided like a useless tranny because it was run by incompetent dipshit leftists.

>>82183659
Japan is objectively stagnant, they got rich quick in the 80s, then the asset bubble popped and they never recovered. Their industries are not exactly booming, their national debt is extremely high and their currency is constantly depreciating, so I'm not sure by what metric you think they aren't stagnant. "Cleanliness" is not an economic metric.

>>82183934
Not under Stalin. Meanwhile, Hitler got assraped and Germany is now an Islamic country.

>>82183881
you can't really consider it in isolation, though. everything was connected and the chance of a positive outcome was very slim

>>82183946
Stalin was a faggot cuck that unironically enjoyed blacked. Just like you leftie troonie.

>>82183967
Hitler literally killed himself out of embarassment. Germany is now somehow both ZOGGED and Islamic. Don't know how they even manage that.

>>82183946
Hitler's domestic policies didn't fail. Your "it will work this time trust me bro" policies always fail. Cope.

Dilate leftist scum

>>82178841
cope commie scum

>>82181342
(((They))) got us good

>>82183608
>car cucks actually believe this
lol

>>82184215
Hitler's domestic policies resulted in a generation of manlet incels

>>82186208
>destroyed the heightpill by turning everyone into a short king

Hitler truly was /ourguy/. Tallcommies BTFO

>Rigth wing dictator
Financed by the USA
>Left wing dictator
Sanctioned by the USA

It's that simple folks