Thread 82225329

I am feeling pretty down and am starting to think we never really find someone we wanna spend the rest of our lives with we just settle for the best we can get :/

no it doesnt its all fake

>>82225329 (OP)
love, depression, anger, sadness, etc. are all just illusions. nobody has ever felt true depression or anxiety.

i don't have a very good frame of reference, just my low iq family

>>82225329 (OP)
settling is good
we should settle more
perfection from the get go exists only in your head. if you and your partner both adapt to eachother you can eventually create perfection out of something very flawed

>>82225329 (OP)
Yes. I love myself unconditionally. Nothing I do can make me take that away from me. All adversity in life only strengthens the trust and resolve I have in myself. A partner can love you, but it will never be as great as the love you have for yourself. You know all your flaws and still choose to forgive yourself and go on and make the best decision for yourself each day x

True love exists. I know because I have experienced it with Maria.

I will never settle.

>>82225438
This. We are one newly coined term away from letting people go back to putting effort into making relationships work
Forget the idea that two people can be perfect for each other the moment they meet, soulmates are those who have changed to become such for their loved one. Sadly the ones who need to learn this the most will never come to this board to begin with

>>82225329 (OP)
Probably but if i were you i wouldn't count on having it.

>>82225329 (OP)
What a weird way to word it, sort of implies that you're never happy with anyone you can get
>>82225438
This except like OP, I don't think I'm ever getting that.

Only women can love. Men cant.
Even when supposedly love a woman they still get horny for and jack off to multiple other women.
Meanwhile women tend to remain extremely naturally monogamous to the man they love.

>>82225472
We both needed to grow and learn lessons. We can do that with and for each other now. She knows my strength and fortitude for staying for her for so many years

>>82225540
That's very sweet. Everyone should be able to experience that kind of bond in their lifetime, and I wish you get to be as happy as possible by your lover's side

>>82225329 (OP)
no. all relationships outside immediate family are inherently transactional in nature.

>>82225438
this is a bunch of crap, all men should be exceptional and only exceptional men should be accepted

>>82225627
>nature
>transactional
That's like saying all cars are also planes by design. Are you retarded, by chance? Or just ESL?

You need a virgin gf or else youll always be unhappy. Every time you see a virgins bum at the skatepark skating around in her chucks or tommy boots you will get heart palpitations in grief. But most guys dont get to have a virgin gf, because they are too picky. They just end up losing their virginity and butt virginity to a hung chinamen or Arab at an air bnb when they are exploring the world.

>>82225710
its not hard to get a virgin gf while you are still young. if you just wait until its too late (tick tock) then you just have to keep waiting until your life is over (tick tock)

>>82225656
>Are you retarded, by chance?
plausibly. i don't understand how those two words indicate false equivalency. as i'm sure you're well aware both have multiple definitions.

>>82225717
Nah virgin girls are only dating chads or African Asian Latino races. White boys have to put it all on the line for a bitch. But end up getting their words tossed to the wind. Cruelly without forgiveness, without a shred of remorse or guilt. They OWE us their virgin pussy. That is our right.

>>82225764
Because relationships by nature and by LITERAL definition are non-transactional. If you have a transactional relationship, most people would consider that to be not a real relationship at all. It's only an expression to say that you're experiencing some of the physical characteristics of a relationship, but without the actual relatable part.

>>82225786
White boys have negative birthrates because they don't even try to socialize. If you wait until its too late then its just your fault.

>>82225830
Were just witnessing survival of the fittest. Women are a subset of natural order. It was only a matter of time before women spread their legs wide open for the more dominant races. Black males have been shagging so many white virgin girls holes. Why does it work this way? Im Jewish and ive been studying breeding patterns of white people for 3 generations. First off, the size of a BBC is like comparing a jumbo dog to a regular weiner. It just looks pathetic flopping around, thats not gonna please anything now is it? The black males have giant penises and fuck with extreme passion. Most girls dildo themselves to BBC porn at a very high rate of existence. The simulation will be ending soon. Theyre usually just too shy, and end up settling for a betabux and getting some dick on the side on her ass.

>>82225896
You're agreeing with me. BBC has high birthrate

>>82225815
i think the premise that a relationship can only be valid if it's non-transactional is wrong. however the point i'm trying to make is that expecting unconditional love from someone who isn't your parents is unrealistic to expect from a romantic partner. it's always going to be a give and take situation.

>>82225917
And who can blame them? Have you ever seen a black boys ass? Its so supple and wide. Their buttholes are perfectly lickable. Youd never want to harm it by putting your cock deep inside of it. Just being a tongue cleaner for a black boys sharty would be like a heavenly existence.

>>82225896
>like comparing a jumbo dog to a regular weiner
Kek
Jews are hilarious.

>>82225329 (OP)
Parental love, that is even instinctive

>>82225935
nobody is expecting "unconditional" love outside of sociopaths. and even if you receive unconditional love in a relationship, you wouldn't expect to stay together if you make too many bad choices.

i'm just telling you, as someone who actually speaks the english language, relationships by definition and by nature cannot be transactional. they can be temporary (most people die), they can depend on distinct roles or qualities that may change over time, but they are not based on a self-serving transaction. the point of a "transactional relationship" is that you are fulfilling certain needs you have that you could get in a relationship, but without actually having a relationship.

>>82225438
I don't get how anyone can settle. The whole thing is pathetic. You have to pretend to be into a girl you don't actually want, pretend her past doesn't make you sick, and basically lie to her 24/7 so she doesn't get upset. The entire relationship is fake from the start. Being a lonely virgin is a million times better than that. At least you're not a liar who secretly hates the person you're with.

>>82226085
It's usually much simpler than that. Most people live in the present, not the past, and relationships are enjoyable, and people tend to like each other in general (social animals meme). If you ended up being brainwashed to not enjoy relationships then that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I would assume you enjoy other things like consooooming or doing that performative social justice thing or whatever. Just live the life you love.

>>82225329 (OP)
>we never really find someone we wanna spend the rest of our lives with
Relationships are built, not found. A relationship has to be made into something you want, you won't find someone who is flawless and will read your mind. No matter who you are with, if you spend long enough with them you'll find something about them you dislike or that's different. That has to be worked around. Relationships require work, but the new era of destiny belief tards don't understand this so they burn down what could be good relationships searching for "the one" who doesn't exist.

>>82225329 (OP)
I used to believe in true love. Starting at the young age of five I would fall asleep hugging my pillow and pretending it was a beautiful princess. As I grew I watched the girls around me grow into women and with their growth transform from happy, playful creatures into DISGUSTING WHORES. Still, throughout my high school years I help out hope that I would find a woman who shared the same desire for eternal love that I did. Upon entering college this dream was SHATTERED.
FOIDS ARE IRREDEEMABLE
If you are even LUCKY to marry a woman in this day and age, she WILL NOT be a virgin. That's right, your future wife WILL have slept with AT LEAST 20 guys. Your future wife WILL cheat if she gets the chance. Your FUTURE wife WILL use sex as a tool to manipulate you and will see you as NOTHING MORE THAN A WALLET.
Women are EVIL, SOULLESS MONSTERS.
I have never, EVER encountered a misogynist man, one who truly hates women, that doesn't have a girlfriend. Women love abuse. If you are a gentleman like me TOUGH SHIT. Every time I even think about this the veins on my forehead swell with blood and my cheeks get hot and my heart starts beating and I clench my teeth and squeeze my hands shut until my knuckles turn white. I genuinely don't understand how half the human population can be such refuse. Why do women actively seek out men who treat them like shit? This is a purely female phenomenon. There are no mass of men who love being abused.
AIIIIIIEAIIIIAIEAIEIAEIAEIAAIEIAEIAIEIAEIIAEIIEIAEIIAEIAIEIAIEIAIE (me screaming)
The only solace is that foids will be replaced by robots with artificial wombs, but that technology will emerge after I am old and my heart has shrunk into a small black lump. Had I been born earlier I would have lived in a society where women are forced to PRETEND to be good, loyal people. Had I been born later I would be able to benefit from robofoid technology. Instead I am tormented by living in the WORST time in history to be a romantic.

>>82226111
The crazy part of this story is that the men are even worse.

>>82226118
>The crazy part of this story is that the men are even worse
***The men that women CHOOSE (because we live in a world where women have ALL the control over beginning and ending relationships) are even worse***
Fixed that for you

>>82226137
They aren't chosen, they are just all like that.

>>82226156
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
SHUT THE FUCK UP FOID
I HAVE BEEN SCORNED AND SPIT AND TRAMPLED ON MY ENTIRE LIFE FOR BEING TOO KIND AND NOW YOU COME HERE AND TELL ME THAT ALL MEN ARE ABUSIVE
I WILL SMITE YOU

>>82226176
>FOR BEING TOO ABUSIVE
Fixed. Destroying someone's life is not "kind" you asshole.

>>82226111
Maybe just stick to your cuck porn and call it a day pal

>>82226027
true unconditional love would negate any amount of bad choices. whatever. i want you to tell me what you consider a proper relationship is, rather what it isn't.

>>82226176
>too kind
sure buddy, you were such a "nice" guy

Was there at some point a chance to be with the most compatible person for you?Yes, but the girl that was perfect for you married her high school sweetheart or rode the cock carousel after being raped.

>>82226196
>cuck porn
On the contrary I might be the ONLY man left in the world who isn't a cuc k. 95% of married men married a woman who wasn't a virgin JFLLLLLLLL. That is REAL cuc koldry.

>>82226111
>elliefag gemming out again

>>82226205
You can love someone without being delusional about their bad choices. The manipulation tactic of "you would do x if you loved me" is a meme, not a valid expression of unconditional love. A proper romantic relationship is two people bonding together. It's literally (by nature, by definition) a function of how strong your connection is, and the goal of a relationship is to strengthen that connection until you become family, where you aren't just two separate people but a single, family unit. This can start with exchange of phone numbers and exchange of sexual favors and exchange of funny jokes, but it leads into intimacy and trust and partnership and being TOGETHER, rather than leading toward transactions and self-service. A transactional relationship starts with phone numbers and ends with money for sex.

>>82226027
>nobody is expecting "unconditional" love outside of sociopaths

I'm an old, autistic guy who's never had anything, so naturally I dream about a girl who gives unconditional love. In my head, I even imagine testing that love, making her prove it's real. It's a coping mechanism for a life of isolation. I'm not a sociopath.

The kind of thing I imagine is a girl who is totally consumed by you. The one who says "I love you" all the time, who makes it clear you're the center of her universe, more important than anyone. The one who just wants to make you happy and be with you physically, no barriers. She'd even tell you to test her devotion because she knows it's unbreakable. That's how I know it's a fantasy.

>relationships by definition and by nature cannot be transactional
But that's all it is, a cope. In the real world, it's all a transaction. A woman is with you because of the feelings you give her, period. She chose forty other guys before you because they offered a better deal at the time, usually better sex. There's no deeper meaning to it.

>>82226111
>I have never, EVER encountered a misogynist man, one who truly hates women, that doesn't have a girlfriend
Hello. Theres a first to everything

>>82226292
>The manipulation tactic of "you would do x if you loved me" is a meme, not a valid expression of unconditional love.
I hate when people pull this card, the only time this statement is valid is in response to abusive behaviours like beatings, threats, or randomly walking out and vanishing for days or weeks and reappearing.

>>82226379
>autistic
>but somehow not a sociopath
huh? your fantasy is too abstract to comment on. you can build a relationship that achieves unconditional love if you want to. just expecting that from other people is inherently sociopathic, given limited context.

>it's all a transaction
No that's what I'm saying. Literally none of it is a transaction. Because of the "relate" part of a relationship. That's why a transactional relationship is not a real relationship. There's no deal to be made, it's really that simple.

>>82225329 (OP)
Love is a meme from fiction written by men for men. Just let it go.

>>82226498
It's always been written by women though. not even the fruitiest of men talk about love.

>>82226292
>>82226292
i think it's more loving someone for who they are and looking past someone's shortcomings, rather than a "tit for tat" situation. i guess similar to what the greeks called agape.
your definitions is very sweet, but i honestly can't see past traditional gender roles where the male proves himself as a good provider/female as nurturer. essentially all just a facade to propagate genes, like a clan of monkeys.

>>82226648
1. Gender roles are defined by the gender. The male by default is a good provider or else he is not considered a man by the "clan of monkeys." Love exists many layers below other layers below the surface of "gender roles"

2. You're talking about the personal choice to love someone unconditionally as a sort of commitment, which is part of a broader conversation. Like you have lots of love to offer and you decide to offer it to someone in particular for who they represent or whatever and just stick to that permanently. That doesn't necessarily correspond to specific actions or intimate relationships, like you see parasocial relationships where someone unconditionally loves a celebrity or a cartoon character. I was talking about unconditional love within the context of an existing romantic relationship, which can result from similar commitments but often it's the other way around, your love emerges naturally as you offer it to that person and otherwise you are generally not looking to give it out.

>>82225329 (OP)
Love doesn't exist for incels like me. Only for Chad and his >3 hoes.

>>82226245
Only pedophiles view it like that

>>82226783
>chad is an ugly short male
what?

>>82226799
>You don't want to marry a girl who has told many other men that she loves them and wants to be with them for the rest of her life before throwing them away? You must be a pedophile!
Call me Peter Scully then. Also I bet you're one of those moralfags who believes it's pedophilia to be attracted to 13+ girls.

>>82226916
I bet you are childless scum just like the dirty feminists you worship.