Thread 82250971

Why/when did restaurant buildings go from having sovl to becoming gray prison blocks?

World died in 2007

World died in 2001

fast food isn't really marketed as being family oriented now... at least not as much

World died in 1995

I never understood why they did that. Im sure there was some internal study that showed more people want to eat in a bland building or some shit but... it's fucking mcdonalds people will eat there anyway

>>82251028
it's to make the buildings easier to sell if the location closes or moves. unique architecture is great for brand recognition but not great if the new owner has to then modify the building to put their own businesses there.

>>82251077
>make the buildings easier to sell
Was that somehow not an issue in the 70s when these funky buildings designs were developed?

>>82251094
Economy was better back then and these chain establishments were much more likely to remain long term. Nowadays a chain is more likely to become unprofitable, at which time they will sell it to some other corporation.

>>82250971 (OP)
They just stopped marketing to easily influenced children. Why else would they build playgrounds

>>82251077
You make a fair point, Anon-kun. It's always funny when an old Pizza Hut building becomes a new establishment and you can very clearly tell what it used to be because of the distinctive roof.

World died in 1990

>>82251077
This anon is correct. Starbucks was a big deal because they realized that disguising your property development and acquisition as a fast food chain was a recipe for success and then every other chain copied their strategy and made their storefronts bland and interchangeable..

>>82250971 (OP)
>Why
Real estate
>When
When real estate speculation started making more money than selling burgers and fries

>>82251028
their sales went down after the change, lol

>>82250971 (OP)
>sovl = marketing targeted at children
hmmm

>>82251117
the 70s were literally a global recession

>>82252267
Only retarded pedophilic manchildren hate the grey and brown buidlings. Case closed

>>82251194
yet all the retail real estate that was occupied as a corporate asset and written off each year like ghiradelli square is completely empty and vacant now from all the theft and homeless

>>82252295
You can't write off real estate unless you sell it or it becomes impaired through some insane event like a toxic chemical leak. Unless you the mean the building itself but even that requires some extraordinary event.

>>82252267
It was much better than the marketing targeted towards kids today (AI/jeet Youtube slop)

Yes, globalism; doing everything on the cheap, while looking to soak the next person on the re-sale. It's all so cynical and miserable now.

>>82252267
>Only children enjoy vibrant colors.

>>82250997
>>82251010
The mayans were right about 2012

Barack Obama ruined America

>>82252405
The one good song on there is Viva La Vida

>>82250971 (OP)
Children are a shrinking demographic. Why cater to a shrinking demographic?

>>82250971 (OP)
corporate financial analysts realized sovl wasn't increasing profit margins.

>>82250997
>>82251010
>>82251023
Late 1800s early 1900s.
Is when the world died.
All great literature is from before that time.

i miss fast food QTs

>>82250971 (OP)
I like new mcdonalds more tho

>>82250971 (OP)
building on the right actually has 10x more soul

>>82250971 (OP)
Pre- 2012 was just a different time all around. You can see it reflected in old internet videos, not just architecture. Memes, culture, hope, jokes, shows, media as a whole had a different vibe of innocence and "fun".
Nowadays videos like these are REMOVED off of youtube. Back then they were made by companies and enthusiasts alike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwORzQxAXmU
It was a different time. You had to be there.

>>82250971 (OP)
It's better this way unless you enjoy circus aestethics.

>>82250971 (OP)
"the world died in 476" - some byzantine peasant from the year 600 probably was saying in a conversation

Business marketing students started making things up. The CEOs started scamming.
Pretty soon they got no product or messaging left. The employees are too daft to understand the mission.
They fall to nihilism and soullessness. Possibly foreign countries trying to destroy our culture.

>>82250971 (OP)
They were trying to imitate higher end restaurant design, to make the brand look more premium. This specifically started with McDonald's when they introduced their McCafe line to try and compete with coffee shops. The added bonus is you save a lot of money and have higher customer turn over if people have no reason to stay at your location. No playplace means less maintenance and families leaving the building faster.

In general though customer hostile design is common in dining outside of the fine dining segment. Most infamously how every restaurant that isn't a fine dining establishment blasts music now, this is because it makes people eat faster and gtfo sooner. Which saves businesses money, especially buffets. You can thank Mario Batali for that idea in restaurants.

>>82252405
so to clarify, left is better than right?

people got pissy about kids eating too much fast food so the chains re-branded as adult restaurants

>>82250971 (OP)
I color corrected your image OP. I'm sure it was an honest mistake

>>82250971 (OP)
The government made it illegal to advertise to children, then they made it "cool" during millennials peak time for everything to be gray and minimalist. Now its just the standard.

>>82252799
Why did uniforms get so bland? Maybe I'm just paranoid but I get the vibe that literally every piece of womens fashion in the last decade is being designed specifically to not appeal to the male gaze. We had low rise jeans and tight crop tops, deep neck shirts and dresses, miniskirts, the pencil skirt, what happened???

>>82252305
losses in sales

>>82253105
>t. swedecuck

>>82250971 (OP)
The fat epidemic made children fat which made marketing fast food towards them taboo, which made them shift from left to right.

>>82252353
>Yes, globalism
Mc Donald's was always the synonymous of globalism though.

>>82252443
>Children are a shrinking demographic
Are you retarded?

It use to market for families, but it probably wasn't profitable. They'd likely lose a bunch of money when they get sued, whenever some kid got hurt in their playhouse. To much bullshit to deal with for a restaurant and literal shit in their ball pits.

>>82250971 (OP)
If you hate how modern buildings look then you hate capitalism.
Modern buildings are much easier to sell, maintain, and are designed for maximum efficiency to maximize profits. Le Corbusier pioneered modern architecture and is the reason for this. If you hate this, then you're just a shitty capitalist. Keep flipping my burgers in your grey squares, faggots.

>>82256788
Markets exist to serve humans, not the other way around. Way too many faggots like (You) think all there is to life is number go up and fuck everything else.

>>82255222
But that's not good for the company. A write off is never beneficial since it always requires a real loss to be incurred. I'm also not sure what you mean, are you talking about selling the real estate for a loss or having a reduction in actual items sold? Either way, it's bad for the company.

>>82257065
The humans want cheaper food, faster. If the buildings are more expensive to maintain then the price of the food is also higher. If people wanted the fancy special buildings they would go to those places and spend more. The market is serving humans, humans just don't want what you think they should.

>>82256788
>inb4 when I was a kid I really liked X
People didn't stop visiting or paying enough to make these aesthetic choices unprofitable. Of course everyone wants playgrounds and slides and toy and shit, but at what cost? This move being profitable to McDonald's is a direct proof that price isn't that high.
McDonald's (or their franchisees if you want get into the legalese) spends less money on maintenance, decoration, repair, cleaning. Customers still go to McDonald's and buy their food. There is more money in the economy going to more useful things that better reflect the values of people. I see this as the efficient market in action. If you want to be entertained go to a place that deals with entertainment. This is what Americans have collectively said with their pockets. And they do just that.
What is the issue? Do you want state subsidized McDonald's facades? Collectivized fast food to waste taxpayers' money?

>>82257131
You'd have a point if fast food was still cheap. What did the dollar menu look like in the 90s and 2000s versions of McDonalds compared to today's version?

>>82257239
Economics discussions would be a lot more productive if everyone understood the difference between stated and revealed preferences. All the "woes" of modern society can be blamed almost solely on the consumer.

>>82257254
Yes because the counterfactual is fast food being both funner and cheaper, clearly that makes sense. It would be more expensive if they had to pay more for building upkeep, not less.

>>82250971 (OP)
The economy is fake and margins are stretched to their limits compared to the past, so efficient minimalism makes the bean counters happy.

>>82251132
Perfect shape for a Chinese restaurant

>>82250997
>>82251010
the spirit of the white male died

>>82250971 (OP)
I actually think both look like shit

>>82250971 (OP)
Why have a park attached when the birth rate of the middle class of children is at an all time low

You want a playground for black and brown people? McDonalds does not need that kind of headache.

Within 50 years there will be very few whites in most of America and they will have started their own micro power communities to get away from this all.

>>82250997
The world died with the invention of the iPhone

>>82257131
>People want cheaper food, quirky architecture is just a bonus.
>The market takes away their architecture and makes food more expensive.
Based.

>>82257367
i feel that's a bit of a stretch.

>>82258622
Right does look worse than left but left was also just made to be an easily recognizable eyesore. It helped that it stuck out, especially when along the road.
I just dont like the cheap plastic look I guess.
The 60s diners werent that great looking either but I kind of like that style. A bit like waho diners.

>>82258702
>orange """drink"""

>>82258702
Le fun fact btw, the golden arches originally didnt represent the letter m of mcdonalds, it was also just a tactic to be easily recognizable.

>>82258707
>No carbonation

>>82252799
Growing up i used to go to my local Carls Jr (Hardees). I was on the way home from my middle school and high school. This was late 90s early 2000s. It was staffed during the day by old whites and like 19 yr olds. and after that it was white teens. By 2010 it was 100% mexican adults or indians.

now every fastfood near me is staffed by indians or mexicans.