Thread 82267191

I'm sure getting brutalized sucks, but a lot of the rape-by-technicality that women talk about ("I didn't give a clear enthusiastic yes!!!") just seems like uncomfortable sex. I'm sure it's shitty, but nowhere near the experience of getting actually violently raped

>>82267191 (OP)
invite a gay man over and find out yourself

>>82267206
I certainly wouldn't enjoy having sex with a man, but unless he physically hurt me, I wouldn't say I'd be irreversibly traumatized. Just uncomfortable and grossed out

>>82267223
penetrative sex you want does physically hurt. unless your asshole is that loose? can we see it?

>>82267251
dont want*

>>82267206
There is something depressive about women finding men as attractive as men find other men attractive.

>>82267191 (OP)
A lot of women are weird/sensitive about sex, and you should take that into account. Make sure she feels safe enough to tell you no, because a lot of them are terrified that you'll hurt them if they say no.

Ultimately, this is their own issue, you're right. It's not really your fault if she doesn't tell you she doesn't want to. But you should pay attention and make sure she is interested and enjoying it, if nothing else than for your own social/legal protection.

>>82267206
The difference is, if a gay man started trying to put his cock in my ass, I'd make it pretty fucking loud and clear that I wasn't interested in that happening, and if he continued, he'd get his ass beat.

Women are weak/afraid so sometimes they freeze up and don't communicate. Again, this is ultimately their own problem, but it would benefit you both to be aware of it.

Niggas with their stupid ass question on this damn website bro. If gay passionate homosexual gangsta slipped it in you, you wouldn't freak? Stupid ass, dumb ass time wasting question. Nigha fuck you icl u pmo alr bro

>>82267270
Difference is a woman wouldn't be able to fight back, her "NO PLEASE STOP RAPING ME< PLEASE STOP STOP" would do justice either

>>82267191 (OP)
1. what you're talking about is generally not terrible and generally not talked about either. if 60-70% of women have had some form of coerced or unwanted sexual activity, only around 2% of them actually make a big deal about it. Tons of men make a big deal over the "trauma" of common bullying they experienced as children even though it wasn't even very physical.

2. Men are dominant and women are submissive. The exploitation of this dynamic is inherently wrong and it's fine to call it out as being wrong, even if it's inevitable for most couples. Our culture can and has shifted away from justifying this sort of behavior because people come together and agree that yep, it's wrong to do that and there are better ways for men to communicate and get what they want.

>>82267294
*wouldnt
kek

>>82267266
it is how it is
>>82267270
>Women are weak/afraid so sometimes they freeze up and don't communicate.
its true, its a combo of nature and nurture, still doesnt give you the right to rape us. and thats why women say a lack of no doesnt mean yes. its pretty obvious when a woman is into the sex vs isnt so you shouldnt have sex with women who dont want it
>but it would benefit you both to be aware of it.
i am aware of it. more women should have guns desu

>>82267191 (OP)
It devalues sex if they can't gatekeep it

>>82267294
Right, but OP's talking about women who don't explicitly tell you no. I agree they couldn't fight back and am saying that makes them afraid to say no. Even to men who would respect the no. Because she is too scared to say it. So it's a complicated issue. Ultimately, if she doesn't say no or "get off me" and the guy is socially unaware, he probably won't even realize she doesn't want to. Some women even fake interest because they're scared. As a personal anecdote, I once knew a girl who deliberately sucked a guy off without him even asking, after a date, even though she didn't want to, and talked about it like it was his fault. She basically projected all her fears onto him and assumed that he was going to get mad if she didn't suck his dick, even though he never said that or even asked for it. Some women are nuts from trauma and weird ideas. So it's important to understand this stuff so you can navigate it, because it generally doesn't make sense to men. I know personally, if a gay man tried to ass rape me, I'd fight like a feral wolverine to prevent his cock from entering my ass, even if he was stronger than me.

>>82267313
No one said anyone has the right to rape anyone else. What I'm saying is that, if you don't communicate, then that is ultimately your issue. You can be traumatized/scared/whatever, freeze up, etc. and that is legitimate. But if you don't clearly communicate your disinterest, some men might not pick up on it. So what I'm trying to say here is that socially unaware/autist men need to really pay attention, for both their own and the woman's benefit.

>>82267191 (OP)
>What's so terrible about rape hurr durr stupid fucking words that I'm not reading.
I don't know nigger. Everything? You are fucking retarded and deserve to be sawed in half for your mental retardation. And this autistic medical diagram as the picture for your post makes it worse. I hate this fucking site holy shit.

>>82267494
Are you on your period perhaps?

>>82267395
>So what I'm trying to say here is that socially unaware/autist men need to really pay attention, for both their own and the woman's benefit.
and this is why women largely avoid socially unaware/autist men!

>>82267395
if you guys are so socially retarded that you might accidentally rape a woman then you should die alone. but in reality, in most cases like these men know exactly what they are doing and dont care. its not just an oopsie daisie

>>82267514
I hung out with a kike last night for multiple hours and had to deal with Jew shit continually.

>>82267517
Again, it's on you if you fail to communicate. If you know someone is an autist, it's also your responsibility to make things clear to him. This is an issue for both men and women.

>>82267529
No one's talking about a case where men know what they're doing. If you say no and fight him and he keeps going, then he's evil. But if you just lay there and say nothing, that's on you.

Also, it is not "rape" if there is no coercion or force. Just by definition. Once again, if a gay man bent me over and tried to put his cock in my ass, and I just sat there and said nothing with my ass in the air and let him fuck me, that's not rape, that's just me letting a guy fuck my asshole while I'm unenthusiastic about it. It would be rape if I told him no, started fighting him and he fought me back and pinned me down and then fucked me. Calling your inability to say no "rape" devalues the term.

>>82267568
have you ever had sex? have you ever tried to force a penis into an unaroused vagina? its very clear when a woman doesnt want it, youre either retarded or deliberately excusing for rapists. probably both

>>82267206
False equivalent unless you are gay. More apt would be try inviting a sexually aggressive woman over.

>>82267589
Roughly estimating, I've probably had sex about 2,000 times.

An aroused vagina doesn't mean she wants it. An unaroused vagina doesn't mean she doesn't want it. These are automatic biological functions of the genitals that are separate from the complicated issue of desire which is mental. Throughout my 6 year relationship with my gf, there have been times when she's had hormonal issues and her vagina was in an unaroused state despite wanting sex. So yes, I have. And this is a complicated issue.

No one is excusing actual rapists. Your definition of rape is that of a retarded feminist's and all you're doing by calling this situation "rape" is devaluing the term. You seem like the inexperienced/retarded one.

>>82267628
the equivalent to forcibly penetrating a woman with a penis is forcibly penetrating a man with a penis

>>82267635
Except one is an orifice designed to be penetrated by a penis and the other is not.

>>82267633
>Throughout my 6 year relationship with my gf, there have been times when she's had hormonal issues and her vagina was in an unaroused state despite wanting sex. So yes, I have.
bro rapes his girlfriend because she doesnt want him

>>82267635
Not at all you fucking retard. Straight men never want penis in them whereas women frequently want penis in them. It's a really shit equivalent assuming women find men as attractive as men find men attractive.
If this is the case all women are in fact lesbian and therefore rape would be a necessity to continue the species. Or fully justifiable. Do you want to go down that route? Attempt to defend the position that humanity shouldn't reproduce or just admit its a false equivalent.

>>82267191 (OP)
Women are too complicated. They don't even like enthusiastic consent themselves. I've seen hordes of women say they loathe it when a guy asks permission to do anything to them.

>>82267663
If you call her asking me to come to bed so we can try to have sex despite her hormonal issues "raping her" then sure, brain damaged feminist retard.

>>82267656
im not sure if i believe you. could you post your asshole so to confirm?

>>82267529
This is false. Even women don't understand women. You expect men to read minds? In 2016 there was a case in which a man was accused of rape because despite the fact that she verbally consented she changed her mind 5 humps in and he didn't immediately stop and humped another 5 times. This is rape according to women. Also just an example of no, not even women understand what they want

>>82267698
Your just supposed to read there mind apparently.

>>82267730
>You expect men to read minds?
you say that like its difficult. this is why you will die alone

>>82267703
Sure, let me take a dump first, I won't wipe just for you.