Thread 82269454

How are you still a virgin when there is a literal Ocean of single horny women out there waiting for you to fuck them?

You literally only need to find a single 4 out of 10 girl to literally cure you of your inceldom forever. Its literally the easiest thing in the world

I'm ugly and don't have any photos of myself with friends outside looking normal (because I have no friends) and I'm unemployed and broke

>>82269454 (OP)
Why do I need to lose my virginity?

>>82269466
How is it even possible to be sexless in the modern society?

>>82269474
I just told you? Also like 50% of young men are sexless it's not strange at all

>>82269484
I would not call them men if they are still sexless.

>>82269492
cool dude, nobody gives a fuck

>>82269454 (OP)
Because I hate fatties

>>82269501
They should give more of a fuck if they are older than 16 and somehow lack a sex life.

>>82269454 (OP)
Those girls aren't waiting for (you) to fuck them
They are waiting for Chad to fuck them

>>82269522
>Chad is an incel
Lol ok bud, enough internet for you today.

>>82269454 (OP)
Because sex by itself is a meaningless act. If anything, doing it with someone you barely care about devalues it even more.

Besides, the kind of girls I would like are probably not hanging out on dating apps.

Plus, dating apps by themselves are soulless corporate psyop that ruined modern dating and I refuse to support them.

>>82269554
porn ruined a whole generation of men in terms of their dating ability but it does seem like the parents of the younger generations are realizing that and correctly socializing their kids more.

>>82269466
Go get a job you lazy nigger lmao
3 out of 4 of those problems would be fixed if you just got a job in sales, and the ugliness problem would be remedied to some extent too (because you'd start having a reason to put consistent effort into your appearance).

my dating app experience has been horrible. I could barely even get a match and you expect me to get sex on there?

>>82269565
>younger generations...more
anon I just went to a theme park and saw at least 10 kids 7 or younger in strollers watching iPads instead of engaging at all with the fucking theme park
that's a straight up lie

>>82269582
NTA but I do work in sales and I make very good money with commissions but selling yourself to a woman you want to fuck is very different to selling some shitty software to some gay company I don't care about

>>82269594
Your expectations are way too high, you are probably much uglier than you think. Aim lower, you ugly troglodyte.

>>82269454 (OP)
i have the tinder bug

>>82269582
No one wants to hire me, I've applied to dozens of jobs with no response since I lost my old job (company went under). I'm also autistic so I'm not going to get a job in sales. I do put effort into my appearance but I'm still ugly, I can't change my face.

>>82269565
Eh I mean porn is an element of it, but it has existed in some form for decades if not more now.

I think dating apps have ruined modern dating much more. Because they promote this idea that there is always someone better just a few swipes away. Coupled with social media showing off luxurious lifestyles and whatnot, and bs 'dating gurus' on both sides giving bs advice, it has been a disaster

I have someone I like so I don't care to meet new people

>>82269454 (OP)
Those are just bots and advertisements for OnlyFans retard

>>82269454 (OP)
I'm not a virgin but I probably would be if I only relied on dating apps or cold approaches. Pretty much all but one (which was a fucking meet cute with a tragically low self esteem Viet girl) of my relationships I got through hobbies. No asking out, no weird PUA shit. Just two people in similar chapters of life who naturally got closer and started or didn't start (because really that happens more) a relationship.
I'm also 5'7" and (I'll concede) a good-looking guy, but I've seen guys who were just taller or skinny get more ass for less investment. OP is right (you really shouldn't be single and lonely if you can help it) but has the wrong solution.

>>82269602
my kids are constantly playing outside. idk what kind of adult goes to theme parks kek

>>82269624
>existed in some
1. Dating apps used to just be the job of a matchmaker. They never worked well for anyone.
2. Dating apps have been used by less than 15% of women at any given time. Porn was consumed by and destroyed around 70-80% of men at any given time. It's an industry that is so fucking massive that even if you took all dating apps together and compare them to just pornhub, you wouldn't even notice the impact of dating apps on money spent, active users, time spent, etc.
3. Dating apps were specifically designed for the type of degenerate who was already mentally ruined by the idea of gamification and looking at pictures of women. Most of them had nothing to even do with dating, they were simply matchmaking services based on looks and basic interests for people who didn't know how to go outside anymore. Even with all the marketing and propaganda, college kids today simply avoid anything that looks like a dating app.

Using dating apps was, by far, the most psychologically damaging thing I have ever done in my life. Before I thought that I wasn't anything particularly special looking, but not BAD looking. But Tinder showed me that, no, I'm hideous, and that women aren't just normally distant and uninterested from men in general but specifically, men they think are ugly (which is most of us).

It also showed me that they as a population lied about what they wanted. I grew up being told all the time that women just wanted nice, decent, intelligent men who treated them well. So I also got to learn that everything I thought I knew about the world was a lie. It's not that I'm some basement dwelling troglodyte, either. I'm tall, white, in decent shape, have all my hair, made about $300k last year, but it took me 40 hours a week of Tinder to get a date a month, maybe, with a woman who weighed more than I did and wouldn't put out, anyways.

>>82269609
Turn your brain off. You are not "selling yourself to a woman", you are "enjoying your time in the presence of a woman".
I've had more success (in a matter of speaking, I'm not out of the doghouse yet either) when I just kinda moderated what came out of my mouth, enjoyed myself being where I was, and acted like how I felt rather than when I tried to analyze the situation and try to deliberately approach it in the most logical way possible.

As it turns out, being relaxed yields better results than being right.

>>82269618
>I've applied to dozens of jobs with no response
Any job, or just the highly specific ones that you felt comfortable applying to? Fuck, go see if your local grocery store is hiring.
>I'm also autistic so I'm not going to get a job in sales
1. Ok? I'm sure that it's a really good excuse but it's not like its existence solves your problem. Autistic or not, you are still alone and unemployed.
2. Sales is perfect for you precisely because socialization is your weak spot. Perfect opportunity to practice talking to people all day + you get paid to do it.
>I do put effort into my appearance
Not in the right way. The kind of effort that you put into your appearance when you're a neet is vastly different from the one when you're employed and dealing with people all day. Your style changes, you carry yourself differently, you begin to care more about the little things, you have the opportunity to compare yourself to others and improve the way you take care of yourself. But you can really learn how to do that only by interacting with people on a daily basis for an extended period of time.
>I can't change my face.
Yeah, but you'll learn how to work with it, because you'll see how people as ugly/uglier than you act and treat their appearance, and you can learn from them.

>>82269755
I was nice and decent and women still wanted me. I don't know who lied to you but it's really rare to end up alone if you are actually a decent person.

>>82269610
you do know they still have to match you back, right? You can see a list of people who have liked you and it usually empty for me. I have even tried paying before. Majority of the women (or bots I assume) on dating apps aren't ugly.

>>82269765
You can be nice and decent AND physically attractive. But it's the last part that matters, not the first.

>I don't know who lied to you but it's really rare to end up alone if you are actually a decent person.

Culture, in general. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_fallacy

>>82269790
It's not a fallacy if it's true for the most part. Obviously being a decent person matters, otherwise it wouldn't be so rare that decent people end up alone.

>>82269761
>2. Sales is perfect for you precisely because socialization is your weak spot. Perfect opportunity to practice talking to people all day + you get paid to do it.
This is such retarded advice. Autism is a disability, not a "weak spot". Employers don't want to hire a disabled person to practice socialization at their job, they're trying to earn money. It's like telling someone with muscular dystrophy to go work at a construction site to work on their weakness.

>>82269755
Buddy you're fishing in a sewage pond and you're wondering why you're not catching any good fish.

Most women date the men in their social circles or in the social circles of their friends, and dating apps are a meat market. If a woman ends up on a dating site (and she isn't advertising), 9/10 times it means that said woman is so insufferable that not only did she fumble every man in her social circle, but she fumbled those in her friends' social circles as well.
Of course none want you, they're damaged goods. They can't work with someone who isn't damaged goods as well, you're too different from their normal context.

If you want a woman who would mesh with a man that is nice, decent, intelligent and treats her well, ask yourself where such a woman would hang out. Sure as shit not on dating sites.

>>82269845
How were you able to make this post if you are disabled?

>>82269852
believe it or not, people with disabilities can operate computers

>>82269454 (OP)
>How are you still a virgin
Dating and hooking up is too much trouble.
I'd rather stay at home and play vidya and watch films.

>>82269454 (OP)
i'm not a virgin but my area is crap for dating I pity the virgins because I can't even do anything with this shit

>>82269847
>Buddy you're fishing in a sewage pond and you're wondering why you're not catching any good fish.

Please read my post again. I was not catching ANY fish. And if you don't think women love dating apps then I've got a beachfront property in Oklahoma to sell you.

>Of course none want you, they're damaged goods. They can't work with someone who isn't damaged goods as well, you're too different from their normal context.

Women didn't want me even when I had a friend circle. So that clearly is not a solution nor are you correct in saying women on Tinder are any different than women elsewhere.

>>82269845
Christ you're dense.
>Autism is a disability, not a "weak spot"
It doesn't matter what you call it. The point is, it's an element in your life that's preventing you from getting what you want.
The question is, do you WANT to deal with it so you can get what you want? Or do you want to just stay where you are and keep using it as an excuse? Because if you WANT to deal with it, that's how you do it. If not, nothing and no one can help you.
>Employers don't want to hire a disabled person to practice socialization at their job
So just don't tell them lmao
>It's like telling someone with muscular dystrophy to go work at a construction site to work on their weakness.
1. spilling spaghetti is not a degenerative disease
2. No, it's like telling someone with muscular atrophy (not dystrophy) to go do their training and hit the gym.

>>82269454 (OP)
So what do you do when none of those 4/10s are swiping on you.

>>82269886
>I was not catching ANY fish
...as it tends to be the case with fishing in sewage ponds.
>And if you don't think women love dating apps
The women in my social circles barely post on social media, let alone on dating apps. So, sorry, but skill issue. Find better social circles.
>Women didn't want me even when I had a friend circle.
Ok? Find a better social circle. Be part of multiple circles. Having no social circle is definitely not helping.

>>82269894
It sounds like you just have no idea what autism is. It isn't being socially awkward, my brain literally can't tell what emotion people are conveying with their face and body language unless it is extremely exaggerated and cartoonish. Anyone who meets me can tell very quickly that I have autism by the way I act. This is just the way it is for me, I'm not going to magically become a neurotypical person by getting a sales job.

>>82269919
>The women in my social circles barely post on social media, let alone on dating apps. So, sorry, but skill issue. Find better social circles.

I've never seen China therefore China must not exist! It's just logical!

>Ok? Find a better social circle. Be part of multiple circles. Having no social circle is definitely not helping.

I did in the past. I don't try anymore because why bother? I wasn't damaged goods until I tried dating women.

>>82269863
Learn to operate socially, it's easier.

>>82269937
>my brain literally can't tell what emotion people are conveying with their face and body language
Which are things that you can study and learn, but in order to do that, you don't just need to read about it, you also need a massive influx of people to study and to practice on, which is something a sales job conveniently provides. It doesn't just help at making you comfortable with people, it gives you something to study and copy. Provided enough time and enough practice, it will become muscle memory, like driving or writing on a keyboard.
Also, you can't tell me that you faggots can memorize every single spec of every weapon used in WW2 but can't memorize 20 facial expressions and like 40 body positions. There really are not that many.
>Anyone who meets me can tell very quickly that I have autism by the way I act
Much like with your ugly face, frequent contact with people will teach you how to package it in a way that is acceptable to others.

Your problem is not actually autism, it's how other people react to it. So in reality, the issue is one of packaging, how you present it to others. People don't really give a shit if you're weird so long as they enjoy spending time with you and you're pleasant to be around.

>>82269957
>I've never seen China therefore China must not exist! It's just logical!
I've only been in China therefore nothing besides China exists! It's just logical!

If you're displeased with what is in your circles and you have not sought elsewhere, then it's 100% skill issue.
>I don't try anymore because why bother?
Because you will rot alone otherwise, and that fact will keep gnawing at you no matter what excuse you find. Had you truly accepted that it is impossible, you would not be in a thread talking about dating apps.

>>82270031
You should be happy, anon. In this case you are right that we get what we deserve. I knowingly wasted time arguing with a retard and, guess what! I realized I am wasting my time.

Yeh, i'm giving in on trying the apps. I have to get something in a major city. I don't have photos, so I'm deciding which photos I will use. 1 will be a mirror selfie, another will be a family photo with my family blurred out, another will be ice skating one, another will be me walking in a park.

>>82270138
oh, maybe setting up a tripod at a cafe so it looks like someone took a picture of me will be 5th.

>>82270116
Have fun rotting alone then, I guess.

Just know that it was 100% preventable, you just chose not to.

>>82269521
Not everyone has cognitive dissonance

>>82269582
You can't just get a job in sales if you're ugly and autistic

>>82269610
Don't call someone a troglodyte and expect them to do anything afterwards

>>82270168
If they have hormones it would be utterly insane to cognitively and sexually be alone.

>>82269809
>It's not a fallacy if it's true for the most part.
But it very obviously isn't, you fucking retard?

>it wouldn't be so rare that decent people end up alone.
aaahahahhaahhahah nigger you cannot be fucking serious holy shit it's like you're 5 years old

>>82270179
If you can't get a job in one of the largest employment fields on the globe, part of every industry, present in every city, and with a barrier of entry so low that high schoolers use it as a starter part-time job, then you're not even at the point where dating is a problem that you can tackle. Your current problem is that you're not even capable of earning a paycheck.

>>82269454 (OP)
I get matches (1-2 per week usually) but they all ghost me before we even talk about a date. I've tried asking out fast, asking out slow, trying to get to know them first, trying to keep it casual and save the "get to know" for the date, act cold, act warm. It all leads to the same results - ghost. Even when they text me first and seem engaged. It usually happens within the second message.
Do dating apps only not work for me?

>>82269454 (OP)
Women don't match with mid guys on there, especially if they're not white.
The few non-totally-ugly ones I did match with barely talk.

>>82269594
Are you white? Either way all these people calling you ugly are just lost. You really need to be firmly in the above average category at least from what I've seen from my white friends too

Personally I think talking to a woman anonymously first works way better

i don't even wanna date. i just wanna goon to the local girls in my area.

>>82270268
>isn't
It absolutely is. If someone is a terrible person and they get removed from society, that's justified.

>mom I said the racist word I'm so cool!
let's just hope you're not calling yourself decent to anyone.

if average white men have trouble, what is it for non-whites? non existent?

>>82270446
black guys have the highest birthrates and replacing white guys
south americans have the highest amount of sex
indians and chinese have the largest numbers and most opportunities
slavs are breeding at a young age and make their whole existence about raising a family
jews (at least orthodox) are expanding like crazy and have tons of support networks

JBW is law but if honestly anybody living in the modern world does not have any trouble finding a sex partner, the trouble is that everyone wants to be rich and famous and have a supermodel wife.

>>82270193
You could masterbate. That's what i did then I got older and stopped doing anything so my sex drive isn't uncomfortable anymore. Tbf I did tuck a load of prostitutes. But not fat ones and I spent government money on it as soon as the money ran out I didn't ever see a pro again. Because only when it was basically free was it worth it over fapping to non fat women. I have never been horny enough to have sex with a fat woman and I don't belive hormones are too blame

>>82270193
Are you saying that hormones makes you blinded to reality and that it isn't a good thing therefore to be driven by hormones?

Like if hormones makes you tolerant of betabux simpery that's not a good thing

>>82270273
I've earn paychecks for years working jobs that weren't sales retard. Besides I did work sales for a year and was still autistic afterwards and still sucked at social skills especially because I am ugly(and beta looking) and don't want to hate myself for it to appease others.

It wasn't a specifically sales position just generally retail associate so I wasn't hired to be a sales associate in fact I was officially a stock worker but they needed people to work the floor all the time and I was selling shoes, the most simple thing to sell

>>82269916
Just try again and be yourself bro

>>82269454 (OP)
Stupid idiot OP, You get literally zero matches unless you're chad-tier. LITERALLY zero. They only want chad.

now do you see why it's traumatic?

>>82270413

You clearly have no life experience. Terrible people with sociopathic tendencies thrive in all aspects of society. Try to leave your basement once in a while and interact with the world.

>>82269454 (OP)
>the dating apps in question

>>82270504
>black guys have the highest birthrates and replacing white guys
the black population in the us has been stagnant since the fucking 50s
>indians and chinese have the largest numbers and most opportunities
because there is 3 billion of them
>slavs are breeding at a young age and make their whole existence about raising a family
you do not live in eastern europe, you have no idea what you are talking about

please kill yourself

>>82272239
I went on a date with one of these girls and they were dead fucking silent the whole time. Shit pisses me off

>>82272277
yeah even india is slightly under replacement fertility, it's mostly just africa with a TFR over 2.1

>>82269454 (OP)
I have nothing women want

>>82269454 (OP)
I get zero matches on tinder

>>82269454 (OP)
>just use dating apps
I'm too picky, autistic, scared and i hate myself.
The old ladies at work and male colleagues show me their friends/family and say I should meet them but I avoid it instead.
Women on dating apps dont swipe yes for me because i don't take selfies, flattering ones anyway.
I also don't swipe yes on women with tats or lewd profiles.

>>82269506
Fatties are in high demand. Stop spreading myths. I dated a 325 pound girl once and she had over 999 tinder likes and notifications

As an autistic person, I'm so glad I managed to have sex. It's just another weight off my shoulders. It's easy for normies so they don't really comprehend it.

>>82269484
>we are in a world where a normie would be a 40yo single man, no girl in his life and without kids, still living with mom and dad, suffering in chronic pain.
>while a oddity is a 40yo man with wife kids and a house of his own

I mean technically by data alone the rarest combo would be 40yo married with house and no kids, but it's still strange as fuck we are now in a world where most men are just rotting away when about 20(ish) years ago that was a very rare thing to see. Looking at Gen Z though it's starting to look like it was just Millennials or rather people born in the late 80s/early 90s so what the hell happen to them?

>>82269454 (OP)
>I POSTED IT AGAIN!!!
FUCK OFF INDIANIGGER

>>82269454 (OP)
Autism, it repulses women of all types.

>>82269454 (OP)
ive met a bunch of girls through OLD. still no sex or a gf. the closest i got was when this one girl gave me a bj but then she ghosted me :( its all so tiresome.

>>82269454 (OP)
Can confirm, its super easy, you just have to swipe 2 million times for 1 date.

Im a 34 yo khv and i have never seen a vagina and i never will.

>>82269454 (OP)
Never cared about losing my virginity in the slightest. I dont get why its a goal for a lot of people. You fucked? Ok, but how is that an achievement? And no im not asexual.

>>82269454 (OP)
2 weeks ago I tried this, met a chick, fucked her, thought we had a relationship going, then she sent me a breakup text when I left her house in the morning. They'll just get your hopes up and call you special. Theyll bake you banana bread. They'll say you're amazing at sex and at eating pussy. They'll cook you dinner with herbs and vegetables from their garden. They'll cuddle up to you while you watch a fucking ghibli movie. Then they'll just throw you to the fucking curbside because they "thought the way you cuddled up to them in your sleep was pushy." Then when you try to ring her buzzer at 5 in the morning after shes blocked you on everything she'll finally understand that you were actually crazy the entire time and she was right about you. Don't try the dating apps. Even if they work you'll just get hurt. Keep your self destructive selves to yourselves. Fuck its been a week and I still cant stop thinking about killing myself.

>>82275988
YOOOOOOOOO I GOT DUBS LETS GOOOO check it out guys

>>82270014
TLDR: Mask better

>>82269454 (OP)
Because they won't fuck their looks-matches, genius.
I match with foids over 50, and they still high hand me, or block me.
Had several claim to be DTF this summer and they blocked me anyway. FML.

>>82275086
Signs started with gen x, millenials hit trend hard, gen z is catastrophic extinction event.

>>82277326
>largest generation in history by population size globally
>"extinction"
peak

>>82272230
How are they thriving if they get put in prison? They are usually punished or just rejected from society. Just ask any incel.

>>82277434
>just import more saars

>>82277499
>just pretend like people aren't having sex saar

>>82277448
Dumb people with no self control get into prison not sociopaths.

>>82277503

Consult this graph >>82277326

Im above average, even i would be able to meet with 1 to 3 girls a year if i tried back before covid, nowadays i get 0 fucking matches, women are on a different level of high standards and picky

>>82277506
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160252724000670#:~:text=According%20to%20some%20studies%20conducted,more%20likely%20to%20commit%20severe

https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/sociopathy/exploring-the-link-between-sociopathy-and-criminal-behavior/

no you are an idiot. sociopaths are literally the people we send to prison as a general rule.

>>82277515
>talking about the largest generation in history by population size globally
>"extinction"
peak

More Normie talk blah blah. Fuck off

>>82276491
This.

Dating apps will just stress your psychologically and emotionally, even if you have success to some degree

>>82271283
"Just be your self bro" (6'8 and 10 inch cock). Leave Normie.

>>82269454 (OP)
Because all women are Chad sexual and only want to fuck Chad .

>>82269454 (OP)
dating apps wouldnt profit if they actually worked to find people partners, the whole goal is to keep you using the app for as long as possible. Also half of the fucking features on most of those apps are locked behind paywalls lmao. Female friend of mine was on bumble and tinder for a YEAR before they actually found a dude they ended up meeting irl. I will not sacrifice my dignity and use a dating app.

>>82269454 (OP)
>single moms
>whores
>camwhores
>4 out of 10's
>hags
>chad's sloppy seconds
no thank you. even an incel has his standards

>>82269466
From what I've lurked Tinder most girls don't have pics with other people either, is this expected from men?

>>82269474
Normalfags will never understand how, we are different species and even if I explained it wouldn't mean anything to you and you would end up being confused even more.

>>82277530
>sociopaths are literally the people we send to prison as a general rule.
Idiots are send to jail
https://lesacreduprintemps19.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/individual-and-group-iq-predict-inmate-violence.pdf
Not sociopaths

>>82278073
Women just need to exist and have vagina to get laid.

>>82269755
For some supposedly intelligent guy who can make 300K a year, you're pretty dumb. Just look at the apostrophe right before you use the word anyway at the end of your comment. You made the word anyway seem like you're trying to say that you're done talking and let's move on to another subject, but you were trying to say that these land whales wouldn't fuck you anyway. You used a comma and completely changed what you were trying to say into something else that you didn't intend. How can you be that dumb? I'm guessing it's because your whole bit about being good looking and making plenty of money is a lie.

>>82278186
Dispersion is huge

>>82278147
Check the stats again, sociopaths as a rule are sent to prison because they are criminal.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160252724000670#:~:text=According%20to%20some%20studies%20conducted,more%20likely%20to%20commit%20severe


https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/sociopathy/exploring-the-link-between-sociopathy-and-criminal-behavior/

>>82278264
Intelligence is just but one variable. Income also HEAVILY depends on luck, the people you know, your starting conditions, etc