Thread 82290816

Are there women who actually attempt to argue women are capable of love?

Their PotentialStatu-sexuality should not allow them to really love, love is necessarily non-transactional. The best I've heard is attempt to frame female love interms of their sense of safety but that's still self oriented.

>>82290816 (OP)
>almost every woman ive asked has chosen friends
well she chose friends with benefits in my case

Women will virtue signal to the best of their ability, but can never prove it with their actions. Modern civilization was created by men in an attempt to receive this legendary love from women. If you want to find women capable of loving men, you need to start looking away from civilization. You won't find it here.

>>82290816 (OP)
holy shit foids are mentally broken. this is why they're so bad at organising as groups.

>>82291207
>If you want to find women capable of loving men, you need to start looking away from civilization. You won't find it here.
Got that right

The parasitic feminine.

The majority of these females goes out of their way to only choose relationships where they are literally infantilized. They fetishize pseudo-incetuous father figure archetypes. They have an unironic rape fetish. They are perpetually only attracted to skewed power dynamics. They are animals that want to parasite off a man "more powerful" than them as they get "play"-raped by these same pseudo-dads.

And all the while, they claim to value equality in relationships, claim to value sincere emotional vulnerability. They pretend to signal against age-gaps despite never choosing their own kind.

Women are anti-romantic. Somehow, civilization convinced itself to believe in the opposite. These people live in a false reality.

>>82291280
hey, it's the missing link!

>>82290816 (OP)
i would choose a soul mate over friends any day of the week. i dont really have friends and i definitely dont have a lover so id prefer the one i can kiss, cuddle, and hold hands with

Except the idea of completely non-transaction love is retarded.
Men take it way to far.
Like the whole concept of 'simping' and bending over backwards for someone that you don't even have to admit is an entirely male phenomenon and comes from pure self sacrifice.
It's not noble or divine. Its just stupid.
Stop fetishizing it.

>>82290816 (OP)
I'd choose friends because lovers don't exist in the real world.

>>82292043
you don't understand human hearts. It's natural to protect your bonds, connections, and aspirations with all your strength.

>>82292063

There has to be SOME transaction.
Otherwise, you get dweebs sending hundreds of dollars to webcam sluts.
Sounds like the women have gotten it right

>>82292043
That's the point. that type of love is good and holy if it isn't one sided. It's a transcendental value.

The things we call "women", however, have only fostered one sided and parasitical relationships.

>>82292043
Would it still be stupid if the woman reciprocated those feelings? Wouldn't both then just be living in absolute bliss, knowing that they can just constantly adore and love each other and get the same in return?

>>82291207
No not really. Men created civilisation to have more or less balanced access to pussy. Women hate civilisation because it forces them into having sex with non chads via commodification of their bodies and they will always seek to destroy it.. Civilisation is essentially incels banding together to install their pussy economics in which they get a chance with providing valuable services to chad, and then chad considers them and convinces women he can't be bothered with, to go fuck incels.

>>82292207

Yes. It will still be stupid because self-respect involves setting boundries and defining transactions.
Losing your individual self in a relationship is unhealthy. And thats how abusive relationships happen.
Thats the problem with simps. They have no self-respect. They bring the suffering on themselves.

>>82292063
two hearts only need to share aspirations. no need for nothing but that.

>>82292267
you are implying that a simp so bad he would "lose his individual self" in a relationship would become abusive. If this isn't a self report on how you think about realtionships then I don't know what is. And no one said anything about there not being boundaries, you can perfectly fine have boundaries, like for example not wanting your partner to cut into family time, while still loving them without any transaction or dominance in the play. This reads like a woman justifying why she's not wrong for only viewing men in the lense of "give and take", rather than actually logically consistent arguments. Same with the "no self respect", why do you need someone to have self respect to love them?

>>82292267
>self respect
>setting boundaries
>defining transactions
>unhealthy
>abusive
I hope you are not a dude breh

>>82292207
No. Adoration means nothing when it's undeserved. It will leave you having an impostor syndrome
Love is beautiful when you help each other to be better people, not when you enable the worst kind of behaviors unconditionally. The second one is bad not because of Le status, but because it always ends with mental illness, self harm, suicide, cheating, drama. This is why love ought to have boundaries.

>>82292301
Because a person with no self respect loathes you for respecting them.

>>82292063
Natural to men*

>>82291207
>>82291280
It's clear he loves him, it's clear she likes him loving her, but it's not clear if she loves him

The armchair psychologist started talking and the thread went to shit.

>>82292355
Yeah but he could just bash her over the head or take her to the witch doctor to cure her of her feminism

>>82292332
HOLY WOMAN
I can't engage with this without my brain exploding. You do you, the therapy you do for whatever issue seems to at least be giving you the lingo to express yourself, so good for you, but I'd advise you to not extrapolate your issues on others. You will probably not struggle to find a man to emotionally latch onto anyhow. Good luck.

>>82292332
>>82292043
Love is not supposed to be rational and secular friendly. It's supposed to be all-consuming, maddening, eternal and equally vulnerable. The problem is that whores don't understand the 'eternal' and 'equally vulnerable' part.

>>82292381

>using dumb cliches and smugness to argue

Who hurt you?

>>82292405
In this particular case, you, kek.

>>82292389

Lmao okay.
Let's see how far that gets you in life.
Keep driving stacy around to the club and convincing yourself that you are nobly sacrificing for ideal love or whatever.
Or you can drop the juvenile idealism, tell stacy to take a hike and actually get a proper relationship.

>>82290816 (OP)
white women are incapable of love

>>82290816 (OP)
>Are there women who actually attempt to argue women are capable of love?

>>82290816 (OP)
>>82292043
Guys don't choose "friends" because an absolute majority of them would try ruining your happy love life and even stealing your woman if given the chance. Women revel in the toxic environment they have with their friends.

>>82291958
What annoys me the most about relationships being and entirely one-sided exchange of effort isn't even that fact, it's that if you ask the average woman who puts the most effort into relationships, they'll actually say women do. When you ask them to actually list what they do they'll just say some stupid crap like "emotional labor" while ignoring everything men have to do on this list.
And they'll never admit they're wrong, because other women obviously always agree with them, but most men are also simps who will also tell them what they want to hear.

>>82290816 (OP)
Women trying to claim MGTOW movement , jewush behavior indeed

>>82292043
if u think this way u probably just think that sex is unfair for women when due to male sympathy we dont want most gals to get pregnant and takes our dicks out . None want to sacrifice their ideal relationship though reguardless of gender.

>>82292043
But anon pussy IS divine, haven't you seen it in porn? That could easily be you getting a woman to eat your ass while she strokes your dick with a blue alien pocket pussy while dressed in gurren lagann cosplay. This is REAL and it must be acquired at all costs, even if millions must die. It is simply biology to want analingus from a 3 foot loli with anime titties bigger than her head.

>>82292802
What I have heard from women concerning their role as a partner
>I organize the house
That's for you, if a man chose so, his house would be bare minimum, not live laugh love shit everywhere
>I organize parties [for my friends]
Again, for you
>I fuck
Once a month
>I remind you to do chores
You tell me to do shit a few minutes before I was going to get up and do it, so you can guilt trip me later about how you had to tell me to do it, probably tell your blog too.

Marriagecel is the worst place to be, which is why I wait until I die; I know I will meet the woman I want to spend my afterlife with on the other side. I don't mind what these braindead earth sluts say, truth waits for me.

>>82290816 (OP)
Every women chooses "friends" because women are solipsistic creatures and think because they "hate" their ex boyfriends that they would rather be alone not realizing their 'acceptance' of not wanting a boyfriend stems entirely from experiencing romance and that without that experience they would feel significantly worse from not having any experience at all.

>>82293042
Or women are actually built different and recognizes a lover as nothing more than a particular type of friend. So 1 friend vs more friend, obvious answer is more friend. For guys, love is a separate category from spectrum of friends.

>>82290816 (OP)
>women hate romance
Well, that doesn't surprise me at all.

>>82290816 (OP)
>pack animals want to be surrounded by other pack animals
Wow what a shocking discovery

>>82293116
Women fuck their friends (male and female) so they are assuming they can at least keep having sex if they pick the friends outcome. Men do not so they're looking at as "have friends and no sex" or "have lover and sex."

>>82290816 (OP)
I have never seen an example of a man who actually loves someone. They always just talk about themselves in some sort of egocentric narcissistic way.

>>82293116
you have to remember that also women will do all sorts of gay erotic shit with each other like kissing each other or cuddling each other naked than straight men would never do in a million years.
You're right in that for themit's the difference between "1 friend" vs "more friend" but they are also the gender that will have sex with their friends too.

>>82293116
Lovers are literally just best friends that you have sex with, and eventually maybe reproduce with. There's no special distinction.

>>82293216
female detected

Women are well aware male version of "love" is mostly about ownership. That's why they correctly pick friends.

Soulmates aren't a thing, love is an action you make not something that happens to you.

>>82293153
>>82293146
Haven't considered the sex part, you guys are right, it's an important part of the answer.
>>82293251
Soulmate may not but male love is real. Why don't women have the balls to own men?

>>82293251
Right, zero female fantasies involve being owned/dominated by a superior man. It's purely for men. Women have absolutely no interest in this.

>>82293251
>Women are well aware male version of male version of "love" is mostly about ownership.
No. like with everything, you go off on a limb, project, and then blame men for your projections in your bewildered retardation.
Men do not want to solely own you, they seek a mutual agreement. That doesn't mean you vent about work, cry on their shoulder, live on their dime, and live in poly-amorous purgatory. If you have all of these expectations of what a man should be, and demand you follow none of what a woman should be, you aren't worth it. Swine.

>>82292973
>I organize the house
this reminds of that before and after pic where a girl ""fixed"" her boyfriend's room by turning it into a weird fake bar with stools facing an empty wall lol

>>82293147
how do women demonstrate that they love someone? can you post an example

>>82293251
>Soulmates aren't a thing
secularism is just an excuse for whoredom and degeneracy. soulmates/twin flames are an expression of a transcendental essence. inability to understand this is indicative of a lesser animal sentience.

>Women are well aware male version of "love" is mostly about ownership.
They wish that was the case. That's why they are treated like lesser fucking animals and are on their way to getting replaced by AI simulations.

>>82293455
they understand the bond that love creates, where two people become one. it's no longer a give and take, it's just like you are part of something greater and there's nothing that can fundamentally change that, at least while the love lasts.

>>82290816 (OP)
I know ican love, anony.. Sometimes I feel like I love everyone I meet. Or maybe it's more that I feel like everyone is lovable once I get to know them better? I dunno. I'm so happy I love living enough that I fear death ^^ I am so happy there are people in my life who I love so much I fear losing them, even though the fear hurts me.. You know what I mean? T_T Even if it's just a meaningless emotion that comes to me because of my hormones or my genes or whatever. I am so happy I can feel all of this

>>82293288
male love is real, but the reason they pick lovers in this scenario is because they see women as objects. They love women like they love a car, they believe in soulmates because they believe a woman is property.

In the male version, the concept of soulmate and hence, of love and romance, is in itself a prison that treats love in a hilariously primitive white and black term. That's why men famously stop making efforts and show their true colors once they have a gf/wife, that's why men incorrectly believe if they have many lovers they are a player and if a woman has many lovers she is a whore, that's why in this era where women can meet more men using the internet, men believe loneliness is some sort of epidemic disease.

>>82290816 (OP)
>PotentialStatu-sexuality
unironically what does this niggerbabble mean

>>82293820
Why don't women see men as objects like a car and own one and make him hers? How did women evolve further into the future leaving men in primitive pre-history?

Maybe they show "true colors" because the guy eventually realizes she doesn't actually love him but exists as they do for demonstration of "efforts".
>>82293958
Women are coalition sexual, coalition that'd increase status. Like potential energy, how much potential status does a man has is the function in their brain that decides whether to date or not from given offers.

>>82294017
>status potential
This sounds good but it doesn't explain why they select AGAINST intelligence when IQ remains a very solid predictor for financial success etc

not really true, some women go absolutely crazy for a guy and fly into hysterics if they suspect him of cheating or he tries to break up with her

>>82294030
Status in the context of the time and environment humans were cooked, not modern status. But modern status do correlate highly with the past traits, people who were bullies in school tend to get better paying jobs than the rest and have larger social circle, have sex more and have general better life outcome if you don't include the last part of the life. Money alone by itself also doesn't give status, it can be a mean but it is not status by itself.

>>82293251
if your average woman could just get a taste of the sort of love men feel, they'd stop being fucking cunts for at least 10 minutes.

>>82290816 (OP)
>pic
Women desire close friendships because they have many friendships but few of them close the way men's friendships are. They don't have to worry about finding a partner.
Men desire relationship because it's harder to find a really long term relationship for a man, whereas close friends are something most guys have.

I hate:
>Women
>Men
>Women
>Humanity
>Maybe (You)
I fucking hate women though

>>82290816 (OP)
With the lover, the male gets sex.
With the friends, the woman gets slaves who work for her and she can still pleasure herself with her toys better than any man could.

>>82293820
>That's why men famously stop making efforts and show their true colors once they have a gf/wife,
Just like women do?

>>82293820
>love is when you view someone as an object
And friendship isn't?

We are living proof that women's friendship is fickle. If your female friends were in a freak car accident and ended up looking like one of us, you would instantly go "EWWWW" "ICCK" and hate them and want nothing to do with them, even though they have the exact same personality. They are only friends as long as they entertain you or fulfil some role, like a new phone or a TV show.

>>82294135
Love is an action, not a feel. There's a reason you fail so miserably at describing it and have to go with that nothing comment

>>82294546
That's not relevant, you are the ones that think men and women can't be friends because you are too weak willed to control your dick.

Women don't give a shit about looks, men do those noises you posted everytime they rediscover makeup.

>>82294030
Because they know IQ is bs and so is success. Women know love is for higher purposes than that, for the things that actually matter.

>>82294708
>an action
double speak for 'feed and infantilize the parasite'

>>82294321
yeah, this is the most sensible answer to the OP.
You want what you can't have.

>>82293820
>They love women like they love a car
Females wish that was the case. The go out of their way to only entertain those dynamics. (yes, all wage gap relationships have this dynamic). That's why they are treated like lesser fucking animals and are on their way to getting replaced by AI simulations.

>believe in soulmates because they believe a woman is property
That's not what soul mates mean. twinflames are about equally suffering together, dying together as equals and reincarnating together just to do it all over again in rapture. Women who can't perceive eternity are lesser animals. Property is impermanent. The soul is not. Soul-mate. Literacy is important.

>>82294727
>Women don't give a shit about looks,
Height counts as looks, anon.

>>82294708
You sound like you've never actually been in love. You cannot force it. It's something that either happens with someone or it doesn't. It slowly burns and consumes the two of you utterly. And when you're in love you want nothing more than to bring your partner to the height of pleasure, and they feel the same way about you.

I think both sides are gay with women being evil gay and incels being dumb gay. Women approaching relationships in a purely transactional calculated manner (unless it is chad but that is just the calculation going through the roof to the point where they will do anything) is evil and universal. I don't care if there is like 5% of women that are exception. Most of them are disgusting animals. Incels are dumb gay because they don't recognize this and when they recognize this they refuse to accept it. The only way to be happy in love is to be a delusional average normie who gets into realtionship in high school and continues getting into more as they fall apart. You can't take the redpill and be happy anymore. You need to be delusional to believe the idealistic love incels cry over.