Thread 82291659

I think you guys need to stop being so full of hate! Try love, instead!

>>82291659 (OP)
There is nobody who wants to receive my love or give it back.

Basically this. I took the blackpill the other week and it made me realise I need to help my family more and take care of the things in my life because life isn't so bad for me and I can do great things for myself to make life more cozy. It's just being realistic rather than pessimistic.

>>82291659 (OP)
>I think you guys need to stop being so full of hate! Try love, instead!
No.

>>82291659 (OP)
>toxic femininity bait

>>82291659 (OP)
im a trying my best but whenever i give out love it leaves me so empty inside

>>82291704
I'm sending you some love, anon! Even if you're the type to think I'm full of it, I'll send it anyway. Even if maybe you aren't the kind of person I prefer once I get to know you, I'm glad you exist. The world isn't as fascinating or beautiful without everyone that's in it.

>>82291752
Keep it up, anon! Even if there's a lot of things you can hate, find those things that you love and cherish them, focus on them. It's a lot healthier!

>>82291769
Why don't you go home... Buddy.

>>82291781
Toxic?! How?!

>>82291790
Really? Do you have an example of a time when that happened? Because I wonder why that is...

I agree, anon, Love & Peace!

>>82291811
>when that happened?
when the person i gave my love to didn't love me back

>>82291833
Yeah! You've got the spirit!

>>82291840
It can be really painful, but you have to think about your love as for others to begin with, not as a means to get love back yourself. Though at the same time, we are only human, so we can't just pretend we don't have our wants and needs... It's a really rough one. I hope someone comes to appreciate your love properly, and hopefully they send you their love back as well!

Nah, we're due for some violence. There's no escaping the next 20 years of declining wealth and racial conflict

>>82291659 (OP)
problem with that is nobody ever loved me

>>82291870
Have you considered... Violence powered by love?!

>>82291873
That's terrible, of course, but you can't let it stop you from loving, anon! You won't receive any love if you don't keep giving it! Even if it can be painful, you have to be strong

>>82291659 (OP)
I can still be hateful and spread love

The Jew fears the mistletoe hot air balloon

>>82291659 (OP)
I need some guidance idk what's going on I feel so energetic and euphoric. I think I can do anything in the entire world

>>82291659 (OP)
>I think you guys need to stop being so full of hate!
I think you should stop talking to them in such a reductive condescending way and try to encourage them.

>>82291930
Also my sleep is fragmented

>>82291915
I suppose..!

>>82291930
>>82291934
Sounds like you're having a bout of mania. When I have them (I'm bipolar), I just be extra mindful of everything. While I feel like I can do anything, I constantly remind myself that I can't. I make sure to put any purchases on hold, because sometimes you can spend a lot of money really fast by thinking "Oh everything will be just fine!" when in fact you're over spending, things like that.

It might feel good, but it can be a bit dangerous as well, as you're noticing. If you get really worried, you can go to a hospital/ward, but I'd only recommend that if you think you're going to do something seriously physically harmful. Otherwise if you just make sure to force yourself to take things slower, to be super, extra aware of your actions, give everything a second or even third thought through, you should be okay!

When I'm feeling manic, I often try to vent my excess energy through things like music. I listen to really upbeat, fast stuff and jam really hard, for instance. Or I channel all that energy into doing something productive, like cleaning the house. Sometimes I even overdo it and hurt my muscles, but I'd rather just be a little hurt than do something crazy.

>>82291934
I think you're right, I take your criticism to heart. Do you have a good idea of how to do that better?

>>82291659 (OP)
>choose love only to inevitably get hurt

love is just as bad as hate

>>82291967
I'm lacking sleep and yet I don't feel even a bit tired. What do you mean by dangerous

>>82291994
If you let any thoughts of grandeur or feelings of invincibility run too far, you might do some whacky stuff. Like I've driven at 110mph before, which is really dangerous!!! I ended up okay obviously, but it's still a bad decision based on "nah I'd win" or just "it'll be okay, I'm invincible!" That's just me, though, maybe your mania won't be quite that dangerous. I hope it won't at least!

>>82291979
I promise you it won't always turn out that way, and that it's worth it to keep trying!! Once things finally fall into place, you'll realize all the pain was worth it. I promise you.

>>82291967
>When I catch bro spreading joy and harmony but I can't prove it

>>82292017
What happens if I stay up too long
I should be fine right

>>82292118
Yeah! It might take a little toll on your body, and it might be annoying to deal with, but you'll be okay. I've had times where I was up for like 36 hours just out of nowhere for no reason. It's mostly just a pain! And then I crashed really hard, eventually.

Do you have a doctor you could talk about these things with? Not immediately, but next time you go.

Cthulhu

Grok, what is Toxic Positivity?

>>82292171
Grok, who would win? 50 Serbian knights from the middle ages or 5 Stone Cold Steve Austins?

>>82291659 (OP)
this is (secretly) nice board

>>82291659 (OP)
Im only hateful when I come here. You fucking retards make me so mad I wish I could genocide every single one of you. Actually the fucking worst humanity has to offer.

>>82292245
>Im only hateful when I come here.
this is the only place where you get to spend time with honest people

>>82292137
I have a therapist do I tell them my feelings for them I think they love me

>>82291840
this has happened to almost every person ever

>>82291967
>Do you have a good idea of how to do that better?
Sure, one way to do so is that you inquire into what their interests are and what they made an effort at, and compliment whatever that is. If they fixed their car, you tell them how cool that is or ask them about what kind of car it is and compliment it. If they read a book, you ask them about the subject and imply they are intelligent or responsible or you express interest in the subject matter and ask for a summary. Classic encouraging phrases such as "attaboy" or "way to go" tell them they're killing it, etc. People being aware that you are just trying to encourage them does not diminish the effect. What matters is that you encourage them along the grain of whatever they are applying effort to do. This is my personal general rule for compliments. For instance, it's uncouth to compliment a girl on her looks, that's shallow, one exception is when he knows she put effort into how she looks. People appreciate compliments along the grain of their own intentions and their appreciation of the compliment is directly proportional to the amount of work the complimented person put into it.

>>82291967
>>82292865
In addition, an even more advanced form of this is not just to provide a compliment but actually call them by a positive identity. People crave to have an identity, and despair being assigned negative identities. To affirm their identity or give them a positive identity from something they have done is a more powerful application of the rule.

To reapply this to the car repair example. You might not only compliment their skills with tools you would further actually assert that they ARE a great mechanic. That is a more effective and higher form of praise. You see this even in children. When you want a child to help out around the house, it's ill advised to say "can you help me put the dishes away?" what you're actually advised to say is "Can you be a helper?" Syntactically and in terms clarity and literary style it's an inferior sentence. In rhetorical practice, people are MUCH more enthusiastic in responding to being called a helper than being asked to help.

>>82291659 (OP)
I tried, nobody wanted it. Best I can do nowadays is nurturing the mental stability required to avoid committing murder-suicide. I think I'm doing really well.

>>82292788
They probably don't love you anon! That's a common misconception with therapists.

>>82292865
>>82292944
I think the identity thing is a good example! And I do like doing these kinds of things, but I don't know how to broadly apply this to all people like when writing a thread. I wish I could spread positivity and joy without coming across as condescending, but maybe it's simply not possible to do it on a grand scale, and it's foolish for me to think that I can. Sometimes I wish I was a superstar streamer or something so I could spread goodness and healthiness and be there for people on a larger scale, but I think it wouldn't even work in the end, because people become parasocial and stuff. It feels like there's no answer!

Also sorry I kinda drank a lot of alcohol and hung out with a friend so I'm a little extra dumb at the moment!

>>82292974
That all sounds very scary!!! Why are people wanting to commit murder-suicide?

>>82291659 (OP)
I am not full of hate but rather indifference and apathy.

>>82293494
Hmm, that sounds kinda depressing in its own way. There's nothing that gets you excited? No interests that really perk your ears up when someone talks about them?

>>82293504
No and I don't see why anything would. This is normal.

>>82293506
That's not normal! Even normies get happy when they hear something about their favorite (blank)! I think something is wrong, anon...

>>82293476
>but I don't know how to broadly apply this to all people like when writing a thread.
Instead of asserting that they are something full of hate, assert they are something more positive or at least misunderstood. I hope you can see now that when you that assert people ARE something bad, you're actually going in the wrong direction in terms of spreading positivity. You're actually being negative about them. You're spreading negativity about them and asserting you're different, which is not actually a positive thing to do. Just by mindfully not making unflattering or untrue assertions about your audience you're already improving at making a positive thread.

>Sometimes I wish I was a superstar streamer or something so I could spread goodness and healthiness
I'm skeptical that streamers and famous people really do that, honestly what men on here need right now is not algorithmic messaging, they need identity, structure and support networks. They need grounding, and approval and recognition by their communities. Not quite as glamorous. Eventually the problem will necessarily solve itself. I imagine churches are going to see strong upticks in male attendance as the more liberal atheistic side of western life has rejected American men and masculinity wholesale. The alternative to that in America is Christian Nationalism, church will end up providing social services to young men that the liberal culture not just failed to provide but intentionally and hostilely withheld from them.

>Why are people wanting to commit murder-suicide?
Not that anon but when someone is feeling suicidal, at the same time they can acknowledge that it seems like a waste of a life. At the very least one can take something awful in this world down with them, rather than cement their own death and life as meaningless and pathetic.

>>82291659 (OP)
The reason I am so hateful is precisely because of the amounts of love I have to give with no one to give them to, or receive them from. This is the aftermath a crushed idealist in a world where relationships are treated as transactional from a primal standpoint, and because you need to become a finished project as a man to be loved, but you are not loved from the bottom unless you have the right genetics or psychological disposition.

Bad enough genetics and early trauma lead to resentment, and this resentment makes me repulsive, but I cannot stop being repulsive without something cutting the loop of resentment that gets to be proven right every day.

>>82293654
>Instead of asserting that they are something full of hate, assert they are something more positive or at least misunderstood. I hope you can see now that when you that assert people ARE something bad, you're actually going in the wrong direction in terms of spreading positivity. You're actually being negative about them. You're spreading negativity about them and asserting you're different, which is not actually a positive thing to do. Just by mindfully not making unflattering or untrue assertions about your audience you're already improving at making a positive thread.
You are very right, I feel kind of bad about making this thread like this now. While I wasn't trying to assert any of that, my negligence made it seem so, which is just as ineffective and bad. Sometimes I just get a little excited and my absentminded naivete takes the wheel.

I'll let this thread die now so it can stop pushing the wrong message, thank you anon for actually communicating and not just calling me names! It's been very insightful.

>>82293708
Hi anon, it's not as simple as I made it out to be, which anon has made me realize as well. I'm sorry for claiming that it was. I hope you can find exactly what you need, and that all that love you have can find a proper, reciprocating loving home.

>>82293756
>You are very right, I feel kind of bad about making this thread like this now.
I'm sorry that I could not present this to you without making you feel bad. I hope the constructiveness will be worth more to you than the pain of seeing the mistake. You are humble and wise for accepting this painful knowledge. It is much easier to be arrogant in life, learning sometimes feels like letting a little part of yourself that's wrong die inside. Kudos to you for choosing to change for the better.
>thank you anon for actually communicating and not just calling me names! It's been very insightful.
You are welcome. I'm glad what I had to share was helpful for you even if it wasn't pleasant. Be well.
>I'll let this thread die now
It is a shame for a well intentioned thread to die, but tomorrow you can reincarnate it, and your Karma shall improve. Here, hab piggu