Thread 82291943

In the end both rodents ended up drowning. Was extending the torture by clinging to false hope seen as more noble? I just love how nigger brained the typical hueman is. They romanticize the results of an experiment torturing mice to mean that one should have something to hope for so they could persist in trying to get the bag. My objection is at least the mouse that was truly hopeless and defeated had the dignity of dying a quick death instead of prolonging the torment only to end up the same. How much of society is wired in this way? In which the object of our desire is consistently out of reach, but we are given small treats here and there to persist in our folly instead of settling and facing the wind. We pay attention to the noise like the handful of survivors that were able to best the odds as if it were a worthwhile signal, but in truth, we hit the ground. Like the reality that most of us will in all likelihood not get to bang Stacy. That is just a basic statistical fact, but in all these faggy movies somehow the loser overcomes the odds of a reptile disease system to get the love of his dreams and live happily ever after in a cottage on the hill. This shit is not real. False hope is not good and stop framing it as if it were. False hope is psychological torture and manipulation, not resilience.

>>82291943 (OP)
nigga your 15 go back doing your homework

>>82291957
Thank you for reading my blog fren. TLDR; No one else can see the preservation of the martyr in me.

>>82291943 (OP)
normies use it to justify their Toxic Positivity Syndrome. As always, a sober and accurate estimation of the situation is best, but normies cannot into such things. Which is the foundation of why everything is bad right now. Normies in position of power saying "oh it'll be alright, just be positive!" and then shit breaks and goes wrong like it was obviously going to. The herd will be culled of their mental illness soon.

>>82291943 (OP)
>THE BLACKPILL EXPERIMENT

>>82291943 (OP)
maybe the mice with hope got to fuck a hotter succubus in hell while the scientist swims in lava and the no hope mouse only got a eight out of ten mid succubus

>>82291943 (OP)
>retarded underage anon thinks that learned helplessness and pessimism is "truth"
Lil bro, if you knew the future then you wouldn't value time in the first place. Why would you take the time to make this gigahomo shitpost if you don't fundamentally respect mind over matter or willpower? The very idea that you could overcome your racist-word brain or convince anyone else should be "hopeless" to a fucking moron like you, yet you shitposted anyway, curious.

>>82291943 (OP)
For me it says two things:
>we are wired to give up far too easily
>we are easily manipulated into locking in at doomed ideas/projects/goals
The lesson should be that we are a lot stronger than we think but outside influence can easily turn our own strength against us.

>>82291943 (OP)
Why do psychopathic humans let animals die in experiments in ways that serve absolutely no scientific purpose whatsoever?

>>82292360
Seems like these eggheads have too much time on their hands.

>>82292360
These are the only experiments that actually matter, extremely sadistic shit that tells us about our real nature.

>>82292374
Experiments that matter are ones that give us life saving medical advancements, I could tell you people try harder when they have hope with basic human observation.

>>82292374
Besides, there's absolutely no purpose to letting the mouse drown when you could just let it out once it gave up.

>>82291943 (OP)
Things used to be a lot worse on this planet. In medieval Europe, the elites didn't just exploit peasants economically-they often ruled through open terror. Public executions were staged as spectacles, meant to remind the masses of their powerlessness. During the Inquisition, suspected heretics could be burned alive in front of entire towns. Nobles kidnapped children in broad daylight and raped other men's wives at whim.

Today, the elites can't wield power so brazenly. Executions are done behind closed doors, and child exploitation rings, when exposed, spark outrage rather than obedience.

if you give up hope, you give up the future, fren.

>>82292408
I don't believe in unethical animal experimentation, personally. In an ideal world, people would willingly sign up for human experimentation with risk factors minimized. If we can send people to war, why can't I sign up to be a lab rat in a way that's ultimately much more useful to the human race?

>>82291943 (OP)
The difference is it's practically impossible to "know it's over" in real life. Outside of some contrived Saw movie scenario where you're shackled up in a warehouse basement torture chamber, there's basically always a chance. You won't be CEO of the next Amazon, but you can find some success/happiness with honest effort

>>82291943 (OP)
You missed the entire point. You're not drowning in water, you will most likely live to be 65 years old before you croak.

You can live for 30-40 of those years being fulfilled and satisfied that you reached your potential and did what you actually physically could (above what you expected), or you could sit by thinking life is over and not worth the effort. Are you actually retarded enough to say that the first one is the "torture" option you fucking moron?

>>82291943 (OP)
Behaviorist here. "Hope" does not exist. What happened in this study is one rat got a behavioral adjustment where it was conditioned to think that further action could avoid the threat of death and the other rat wasn't.

A creature is capable of over exerting itself beyond usual limitations if sufficiently prompted but the aftermath usually involves suffering damage as a result. Torn muscles, heart spasms, collapsed lungs, etc. There is nothing magical happening here. If the other rat had been rescued as opposed to being let drown I would wager that it would have suffered some sort of physical damage as I have described.

The only tragedy from this study is that it's results were interpreted rather stupidly by people trying to shoehorn in some self help book tier moral judgements.

But one cannot realistically always over exert themselves at every task. They would quickly wear themselves down and suffer permanent injury from doing so.

>>82291943 (OP)
I cant wait until i die, but it will have to be when it comes naturally(or super painful untreatable disease or dimentia, then i might grab a shotgun)

>>82292360
Don't ever work on a farm lol. Each day there are thousands of freshly born male chickens going straight down a conveyor belt into a meat grinder for no other reason than being born the wrong gender.

Some scientist killing a few rats to learn something pales in comparison to the unmitigated wanton cruelty that takes place each and every day just to put some chicken tendies on your plate for you to stuff your face with.

God literally proved he was omnipotent. He just ends up looking like hes torturing us on purpose, makes him look kinda pathetic. Theres no reason to have hope when a magical wizard is torturing you.

>>82291943 (OP)
I just thought that this experiment was fucked up, deviced by a psychopath.

>>82293727
Yeah, most are like this. I feel like we know enough medicine already. We can stop this

>>82291943 (OP)
The fact that you know of this experiment, other peoples interpretation of the experiment, and are angry enough to post some doomer blackpill shit on r9k speaks more than enough for you. You never tried, never did and never would. You would rather lie on your back and take a beating just because you would dare to dream of a world without a beating.
The purpose of this experiment was to see if some mice would have hope for a better future or if they would just drown never even trying.
Life isn't a fucked up psychology test meant to torture mice, in the real world someone who holds onto hope has a small but never zero chance of overcoming what ever it is that they are currently facing.

I hate it because I think it completely ignores the biological and metabolic aspect of it. For fucks sake, its a fucking it DOESNT THINK. Did they measure the stress response, hormone levels, vascular adaptation etc? of fucking course no they didnt. So to pin it on "hope" is the most fucking idiotic and blue pilled thing you can do.

>>82292989
A more accurate and sensible take. Indeed, an animal under stress can become capable of the greatest feats, but it always comes at a cost. And there is actually a lot of variation between what each member of a species can sustain before dying, even if both are "healthy" on the surface.
>inb4 this was controlled for retard-chama
I guess but still the first matters more

>>82291943 (OP)
hope is a mother of fools