Thread 82303343

What are the odds we get homosexuality and transgenderism added back to the DSM at some point in the next 3.5 years?

>>82303343 (OP)
>get
>>82303343 (OP)
>point

>>82303343 (OP)
His cabinet is full of self hating gays so there is a decent chance

>>82303343 (OP)
Is releasing the list on the dsm5?

Almost zero and even if he did no doctor would follow it. It would be a pointless symbolic thing and quietly undone by the next dem administration.

>What are the odds we get homosexuality and transgenderism added back to the DSM at some point in the next 3.5 years?
Would be cool if any mentally ill trooners/gays actually read the DSM instead of just repeating buzzwords on tiktok

>>82303392
Why don't Incels check the dsm5?

>>82303343 (OP)
>What are the odds we get homosexuality and transgenderism added back to the DSM at some point in the next 3.5 years?
Slim. If you study cultural shifts through history (hegelian) they take about 80 years (averaged) before a full hardcore backlash. So lets take wokenessess, it's rise and it's fall:
Phase one:
>1945-1965 Mccarthyism
The right wing has institutional power, cancels people (blacklisting), pushes political correctness (league of decency), has a utopian ideal (pax Americana), a holy in-group (white males) and an evil out group (commies).
>1966-1986 leftist counter culture
Young people form their own subcultures totally independent from the mainstream, the old institutions no longer expanding but merely maintaining what they have.
>1987-2007 right-wing decline
Conservatives slowly lose control of bureaucratic institutions and fight a series of rear-guard actions losing space bit by bit until totally collapsing (end of neo-cons).
>2008-2028 Woke Era
The left wing has institutional power, cancels people, pushes political correctness, has a utopian ideal (equity), a holy in-group (marginalized people) and a evil out group (white males).
>2029-2049 rightist counter-culture
Young people form their own subcultures totally independent from the mainstream, the old institutions no longer expanding but merely maintaining what they have.
>2050-2070 left wing decline
Liberals slowly lose control of bureaucratic institutions and fight a series of rear-guard actions losing space bit by bit until totally collapsing (end of woke).
>2071-2092 right wing has total control

>be insufferable troon to help make everyone hate troons
>get Trump elected by making transgender people a voting issue
>he signs trans/gay into DSM-5 despite the fact that he shouldn't be able to do such a thing, but it's all according to plan
>go to psychotherapy, get diagnosed with chronic, crippling, deathly Transgenderism as per the DSM-5
>file for disability
>hire liberal lawyer that makes my case
>get neetbux for the rest of my life

>>82303343 (OP)
gender dysphoria is already in the DSM-5 though, it's been there for over a decade

>>82303343 (OP)
>What are the odds we get homosexuality and transgenderism added back to the DSM at some point in the next 3.5 years?
Close to 0, considering not even pedophilia is in the DSM-V.

>>82303738
that's insane. these people are legit trying to normalize pedophilia now...

>>82303738
??? read >>82303667 transgenderism is already in there

>>82303844
They're not trying to normalize pedophilia, that's right-wing moral panic nonsense.
The three things I've listed are not in the DSM-V because their definition for a mental disorder requires a degree of distress or immediate danger to another individual or themselves.
This is to stay rigid, timeless and socially unbiased, the opposite thing of what you're doing.

Simply being homosexual or a pedophile does not fulfill these criteria unless you ideologically stretch out the "danger to others" part to mean whatever you want it to mean.

>>82303891
i'm not reading all that shit pedophilia is 100% a disorder and no matter how you try to justify it you can't convince me otherwise. i will not let this shit be normal and accepted.

>>82303738
>>82304033
>>82303891
It's under paraphilia because that's what it is, a paraphilia. You people need to actually read the DSM lmao

>>82304096
wanting to fuck kids is a disease. it is inarguably, invariably sexually disordered and it inherently causes harm to everyone involved. stop trying to defend that garbage

>>82304096
Paraphilias aren't diagnoses in the DSM-V, they're requirements for diagnostic criteria for paraphilic disorders.
Maybe you should follow your own advice?

>>82304128
Look up the word paraphilia and then explain to me why any individual member of that class of disorders needs a super special label

>>82304138
>paraphilic disorders
And if you looked up paraphilia in the dsm you would land on? I can't think of any scenario where pedophilia doesn't qualify as a paraphilic disorder anyway.

>>82304141
i never said it did. i said it's a disorder, a disease. i'm not arguing with you about this, im TELLING you PEDOPHILIA IS A FUCKING DISEASE. END OF STORY. SIMPLE AS. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ARGUMENT HERE.

>>82304159
this is really funny watching this fight
no one's mind will change makes it funnier

>>82304159
You're way too mad about this and don't understand what you're even arguing lmao

>>82304169
it's not even really a fight, im just stating a fact.

>>82304177
the bottom line: pedophilia is a disease. simple as. idgaf what you say, it's a disease. it's a disease. it's a disease.

>>82304183
it's not a fact since there is no consensus

>>82304156
>And if you looked up paraphilia in the dsm you would land on?
Paraphilic disorders, which are not the same as paraphilias.
>I can't think of any scenario where pedophilia doesn't qualify as a paraphilic disorder anyway.
That's okay, you just have to read the actual entry on pedophilic disorder, because it explicitly defines a state where one may have pedophilia but not pedophilic disorder.
I cast your advice to "actually read the DSM" back at you, since you confidently speak on a topic you know nothing about.

>>82304191
pedophilia is not normal "sexuality" it's a disease. i'm not hearing anything you have to say on the matter to the contrary. it's a disease, point blank period.

>>82304201
Yeah I've never read the DSM lmao

>>82304188
i feel like that line of reason leads to thought crime, if someone is a pedo without acting on it and you can medicate them. i guess you can have cancer and choose not seek medical help so it wouldnt directly lead to forced medication/thought crime.

>>82304207
yeah but no one cares lol
you're just kneejerking
anything that's not "impregnating to procreate" might as well be a paraphilia because human sexuality is inherently irrational and dangerous

>>82304218
bro why are you so dead set on defending pedophiles

>>82304220
pedophilia is not "human sexuality" it's a fucking DISEASE. get it through your thick fucking skull.

>>82304224
nta but pedophilia isn't a choice so if you don't act on it, i don't see why i should hate them

the line is

don't touch kids, if you fail that, then sorry bro you will be gunned down i can't help you

>>82304230
Sexuality itself is a disease

>>82304239
All humans should be chemically castrated in order to prevent rape and other sex crimes. It should be put into the water supply and people who refuse to drink it should be arrested as potential rapists. This is the only way to prevent rape.

>>82304232
pedophilia is never fucking ok, i genuinely can't believe you're ok with people around your kids being pedophiles. maybe you just can't get it because you've never experienced parenthood but once you have kids of your own you'll understand why these people need to be exterminated.

>>82304239
you keep doing this thing where you keep trying to defend pedophilia by positioning it as just another regular facet of normal human sexuality and then arguing against sexuality as a whole like some sort of gotcha but what you're not considering is that pedophilia is actually NOT normal no matter how hard you try to make it seem normal. it will never be normal, it's a disease, and it's not up for debate. this lgbt shit was such a mistake bro like look what it led to

>>82304270
I wouldn't be ok with the vast majority of humans pedo or not around my children or family so I don't get why that specifically is scarier, most pedos fap to loli and self-isolate

>and then arguing against sexuality as a whole like some sort of gotcha
it IS a gotcha, human sexuality is inherently fucked up, i'm surprised you haven't learned this yet

people think it's hot to swallow cum, stretch their assholes open, have threesomes, all that is considered normal, what is even your line for "ok sexuality" lol, as far as I'm concerned it's all disgusting

>>82304310
My fetishes in particular are not disgusting they are the few exceptions to the rule that it's all gross

>>82304316
True so are mine, only what I think is hot is virtuous

>>82304310
i'm not doing this with you. pedophilia is a disease, end of story. cry about it pedo.

>>82304324
>crying ass nigga

Sorry I get raped by milfs exclusively because i'm not a scared child such as you zoomie

>>82304335
ok whatever pedo

>>82304414
ok self projecting pedo, your shame doesn't work here, go get yourself sorted out

>>82304567
i'm not even trying to shame you because you should already be ashamed of being a pedo or pedo sympathizer and the fact that you don't means you're a danger to society

>>82303343 (OP)
Next to zero for transgenderism, and completely impossible for homosexuality as some of the most connected and biggest Republican backers are openly gay but hate LGBT activists for degrading real gay rights. Like Thiel.

>>82304648
>but hate LGBT activists for degrading real gay rights
elaboration needed here

>>82304662
People are starting to hate homosexuals, and some parts of the world that were once more tolerant are cracking down on any visual displays of it, because of the extreme deviance of the activist class. Also because of the promotion of concepts that have nothing to do with just being gay. Like fetishism, public indecent, drag kids, polygamy, trans issues, and gender identity outside of male or female. There's actually a very large backlash against the LGBT movement from very conservative homosexuals, who want a normal relationship but with the same sex. As they see it as an existential threat to the rights they obtained.

>>82304591
>random 4chan user is actually an evil terrorist from the evil terrorist website and will cause social decay

ok pipe down glowie this was believable the first time not anymore

>>82304727
Shit like this is why I don't even like people knowing I'm bisexual, the term has so much baggage and the faggots from Tumblr didn't help by somehow psyoping the world into even humoring the fetish shit or the dumbfuck gender ideology nonsense.

Now everyone is in damage control mode trying to redo queer decor that got painted over or destroyed by people who are obviously fatigued.

I don't know why people think doubling down works.

>>82303343 (OP)
Zero. Science doesn't work on solipsism like conservative politics do.

>>82305159
>NOOO YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE ME BEING A PEDOPHILE!!!! DON'T YOU KNOW THIS IS THE BASED PEDOPHILIA INTERNET DEN????
lmao kys pedo

>>82305478
Possibly a tranny replier

>>82303343 (OP)
Call me when communism gets added.

>>82305491
pedophilia will never be ok and will always be a disease. not even a controversial statement. sorry you can't accept that.