Thread 82420576

You don't actually believe that if someone were to give a lonely incel like you a chance over chad that it would be:
>Wow, this person is really so nice and has such an interesting personality despite not looking like chad, I totally grew to like this person
Opposed to:
>Wow, this loser is even creepier than his ugly appearance would suggest an he can't as much have a normal conversation and spending time with him is so boring
right?

>>82420576 (OP)
>this person tortured for 10 yeas is angrier and more unstable than this other person who lived 10 years in luxury
hmm!

>>82420576 (OP)
Nah, I am well acquainted with the halo-effect phenomenon

>>82420588
Reasons don't really matter anon, it's just funny that some people here think that something would change if they were "given a chance".
They would squander it.

>>82420576 (OP)
>spending time with him is so boring
how do I avoid this? What do normies even do to make themselves interesting? All they talk about is stuff like going out to eat and watching stuff together. My parents never did anything other than that so I really don't have a healthy reference point.

>>82420576 (OP)
I'd like to believe I'm really charming and sweet.

you bitch ass hoe

>>82420603
speaking from experience?
ik latinx aren't good at communication Lol

>>82420576 (OP)
I know this is true which is why I would reject the opportunity even if I was given the chance.

>>82420576 (OP)
I'm not an angry incel though, I'm just a virgin

>>82420604
Yeah, that's what they do anon.
This is always the one thing I notice about lonely internet people. They dream about having company and love, but also don't really seem to care about people and spending time with them and having conversations with them and asking about their day an stuff so I'm not sure what they're after.

I don't fust mean fake interest like no-conversations like "What are your hobbies?" or "What is your shoe size" that people don't know what to answer to. Most people just maintain a normal conversation flow because they're actually interested in each other or have some connexion over shared hobbies they can talk about. Like dialog like:
>Mate, you look a bit tired, what's wrong?
>Yeah haven't slept well last night.
>Why?
>My psycho neighbour starts drilling at 07:00 in the morning for days now, seriously.
>Is that even allowed? Can't you tell him to stop.
>Yeah.. I don't want to be that complaining neighbor that makes a fuzz out of it it to be honest.
>Good relationship with him or something?
>I barely know his name to be honest.
>Maybe just try slamming the wall to see if he gets the hint or something?
>Oh that, that might work, good idea.
>I wonder if others already complained though...
and such and such

If you have to be 'given' a chance is already over for you

She ain't attracted to you and never will be

>>82420648
i think that's kinda fucked.
you're just a virgin living your life but thats associated with you being eliot rodgers or something.

>>82420576 (OP)
That is only because women are fucked in the head and run on obsolete programming from caveman age.

>>82420662
I try to do that shit and it never works, though.

I just don't understand it. I try to keep the conversation going, ask people questions about themselves, I always give more than just a yes or no answer, and so on and so forth, but no matter how hard I try the conversation dies out after like 5 minutes. I'm not even autistic! It just seems like I'm somehow fundamentally broken, destined to be alone forever. I wish I could fix it but I have no fucking clue what I'm even doing wrong and it's incredibly fucking frustrating.

>>82420670
Anon, people randomly discover some click with coworkers they saw walk around and paid no attention to all the time when they have a good conversation for the first time.

Not with these people though. They can't have a normal conversation is their big issue while they constantly focus on appearance this and appearance that but the reality is every conversation with them just reaches a dead and soon because they don't give responses people feel a need to hook into.

>>82420694
Well that's sort of the point, most people don't try to keep the conversation going, it's an automatic process. They don't search for what to say, they say what they want to see and get rid off, and they ask what they want to know.

>>82420690
I'm sure you have a lot of male friends then anon with whom you do have all sorts of good conversations.
Or could it be that you don't have those either?

>>82420718
>Well that's sort of the point, most people don't try to keep the conversation going, it's an automatic process. They don't search for what to say, they say what they want to see and get rid off, and they ask what they want to know.

Well then what the fuck am I supposed to do? How can I fix myself? Am I just fucked forever?

>>82420718
>I'm sure you have a lot of male friends then anon with whom you do have all sorts of good conversations.
>Or could it be that you don't have those either?
I can't believe you ceded the point so quickly and moved on to the next thing. Oh well. I am glad we agree women run on obsolete programming.

>>82420727
I have to level with you. I come to this board a lot to shit on the lonely losers here because I generally consider them obnoxious pieces of shit who externalize defeat but once in a while you encounter one like you who doesn't do that and I kind of feel sorry because I also don't really know how to fix it. It just seems to be a sense that most people have and it comes automatic to them and some small minority doesn't.

Maybe there's a way to practice it but I'm not sure. Maybe one can talk to a coach or therapist about this kind of stuff. Maybe there is some kind of training for it that has some measure of effectiveness.

This kind of stuff always makes me realize that there are probably many lonely people who aren't obnoxious twats who just externalize defeat and blame others for it whom one probably just doesn't notice it of because they're not as easy to spot on the internet but I guess I'd search for some kind of training or therapy. I just did and it does exist but many of the hits I got also seem a bit snails oily like they're praying on desperate lonely people so I'd talk to a general practioner about this issue to see if you can get a referral because it does seem like a low quality of life.

>>82420759
So you don't have any male friends either and the problem isn't "women" but just that no one wants to be friends with you?

>>82420762
you're obnoxious af

>>82420762
I'm relatively kind to everyone, and reading your thread put me in a bad mood. Felt a sharp pain in my prefrontal cortex because of your stupid ass. If you are so buttmad about incels generalizing maybe you should not do the exact same thing cunt.

>>82420762
> I come to this board a lot to shit on the lonely losers
nta
i'm just a casual observer of the world and i've noticed that most people are somewhat evil and seeking to shit on the next man below them so i wish to study you in a sense.
whats the point of doing that? doesn't that make you an obnoxious twat? or does it give you a kind of ego boost? are you self aware to realize any of this and if so why do you keep doing it?

>>82420762
I risk losing my job if I talk to therapists, I cannot. I've tried looking online but none of it seems to help.

I guess saying this makes me one of those defeatist losers but every time I've told someone about this they just go "lol idk" and the feeling that I'm somehow fundamentally broken just sets in more and more. I just wish I was normal.

>>82420576 (OP)
Both of your lines of thinking are made up bullshit.
My case would definitely be
>Wow, I'm 26 and my eggs are drying up, should ask Anon-kun out, maybe he is interested since he's single at his 30s

>>82420576 (OP)
At least I'd be given an opportunity to prove them wrong. As it is now I don't even get a chance.

>>82420821
it would be nice to be given a chance, but right now i've been watching and listening to chad marco and thinking i just keep being chill, staying healthy/fit and living my life since it probably won't happen anyway but at least i'll be cool with my copes and hobbies

>>82420794
These people acting like they're the victim for "being kicked while they're down" are honestly hilarious. Maybe don't be so vile and entitled and people would actually have sympathy but they constantly come in threads and get angry at others for just having sex or demand that they be given "a chance" so really. I don't have any sympathy.

I'm addressing a very specific person here. My thread is specifically addressing the group that believes they should be "given a chance". No one owes you a chance, if you want a chance then join the conversation but then they come with the usual copium deluded reality of:
>Hurr durr, girls only talk with chad, I'll be sued for sexual harassment if I as much as make eye contact.
Which is just delusional. You see plenty of balding fat ugly short fags who are still married on the street and it just shows you're not paying attention to the world.

>>82420800
Your employer fires you for talking to a therapist? Is that legal where you live?

And yeah, it probably takes a specialist to sort this out. For most people it's a really intuitive process so they can't really explain it. I knew someone like that online whom I tried to train to have better conversations but I have to say it was hard to point out what was wrong. He did ask follow up questions but there was just something about it that made it come across as unnatural an not really the right thing to ask or want to answer to. Like most people ask the right thing that someone wants to talk about and "get rid off" but he always asked this random thing I had no intention to talk about so it just felt like a job interview of telling random facts about myself.

>>82420886
>Your employer fires you for talking to a therapist? Is that legal where you live?
Talking to them is okay - even "encouraged" (it's a trap) - but if I'm diagnosed with anything I'd be out of work for a month+ minimum, and if it's something bad I'd be fired outright. I work for the feds and had to sign my rights to medical privacy away.

>He did ask follow up questions but there was just something about it that made it come across as unnatural an not really the right thing to ask or want to answer to. Like most people ask the right thing that someone wants to talk about and "get rid off" but he always asked this random thing I had no intention to talk about so it just felt like a job interview of telling random facts about myself.
Do you have any concrete examples? I feel like this is probably something I'm doing. I try to stay on topic but maybe I try too hard instead of jumping to new ones? Idk. I definitely do better talking to people in person but I'm too self conscious to do that much and mostly talk to people through text, online.

>>82420767
What do you think we can do with women running on obsolete caveman age programming?

>>82420886
>I'm addressing a very specific person here.

What's his name?

>>82420886
>I'm addressing a very specific person here
Hmm didn't seem like it...seemed like you were casting a really wide net but since im trying to study you and not debate ill just ignore it.
>if you want a chance then join the conversation
join what conversation? like casual small talk? I don't think even the average normie is socialized properly for average small talk and usually just ends up smothering the conversation. just my experience.
>plenty of balding fat ugly short fags
whats amazing to me is these type of people aren't even ugly, they are just fat or average looking but the people that shit on incels call these people ugly just to prove a point.
i don't know i just think its hilarious i'm actually keking at my desk right now. Like a friend will tell me "see mr. dickpooper? he's ugly as fuck!" but mr. dickpooper is an average looking latinx/whyte guy who let himself go after HS and i can't help but kek internally.
So you do it out of annoyance? spite even? doesn't that feel like a waste of time or does the dopamine you get from it that addicting?

>>82420906
Concrete examples in our case of the conversation?
He just randomly asked whether I programmed something interesting lately or something which is in and of itself not all that interesting so I told him what I made and then he just asked what language I made it in. It feels like I'm listing off random facts about what I'm doing.

I don't mind talking about programming but like when I answered Rust. That's the part where it could get interesting because it's a language that's known to do a few things differently and making quite a bit of buzz over it but he then didn't ask:
>Oh, I heard about that. Like, that language has C-like performance and no garbage collector but is memory safe right? You feel it delivers in practice?

That could be interesting to actually talk about and allow me to give my perspective as someone who actually has rust Rust for quite a while on where it delivers on the hype and where it doesn't and most people would ask that I guess because they like to know. This isn't even about life but about a shared interest but it just isn't there.

I guess that's the major issue, people have things they "want to know" and "want to share" and for most people for the most part the first aligns with the second of the conversational partner so they intuitively ask the things people want to talk about. Also, if asked the right way, it makes one feel valuable which also helps because it shows that person trusts one's insights.

>>82420927
Yeah yeah anon, no male friends either.
Stop bitching about foids when clearly the issue is just that you can't maintain friendships or conversation altogether.

This is why I have no sympathy.

>>82420958

>Hmm didn't seem like it...seemed like you were casting a really wide net but since im trying to study you and not debate ill just ignore it
I pretty specifically referenced the "give a chance" mentality.
>whats amazing to me is these type of people aren't even ugly
Anon, these "incels" aren't any uglier than that either and are just like
>Noooo, I have an average face but I'm not 185 cms so....
Look at Elliot Rodger for a good example, he was /far/ better looking than average and everyone who saw him took note of that he was pretty good looking.

>>82420986
anon i don't really want to debate anything with you even if its tempting just tell me your general mindset as to why you feel the need to shit on "lonely losers" or "give a chance" guys.
I just want to understand what's going through your head as you do it pretty much not your overall philosophy.
Trust me anon i have the extensive cliff notes on both the incel and normie ideology lol.

>>82420968
I have no sympathy for sophists like you either. I hope you die in a ditch faggot.

got second hand embarrasement reading this garbage.

>>82421018
>anon i don't really want to debate anything with you even if its tempting just tell me your general mindset as to why you feel the need to shit on "lonely losers" or "give a chance" guys.
Because they annoy me and people make threads on /r9k/ all the time to shot on what annoys them?
Look at the catalog, why do you ask me and not:
>>82417524
>>82415890
>>82417714
>>82419511

Just some random stuff pulled the catalog in order.

>>82421153
Well if you find yourself constantly attracted to shit you may just be a fly. Maybe a different sort of fly, but still a shitliking fly.

Enjoy your stay.

>>82420576 (OP)
>this loser
Competition
>creepier
Social approval
>ugly
Genes
>boring
Entertainment

Sounds shallow. I'd rather do things that are meaningful with people who appreciate me for who I am.

>>82421225
nice perspective

>>82421153
well because, you don't "belong" here in a sense but you take it upon yourself to go on a crusade of sorts it just seems its for your ego.
not that i have a problem with that.
i just want you to tell me whats on your mind so i can get closer to understanding this strange part of human nature that wants to shit on people below them.
>why do you ask me and not
i already a have in the past in essence its just "tfw no gf" pretty much and lack of socialisation

>>82420576 (OP)
I personally believe we're very close to the apex of the curve in this Universe 25 we call world.
Prepare for fire and unexplained violence, OP

>>82421225
the only people who appreciate you by default are (supposed to be) your parents. anything over that is supposed to be earned

>>82421378
Yeah this thing too, this entitled mentality of lonely losers acting like they own 4chan or /r9k/.
Most people on /r9k/ are sexhavers. The reason they miss that is because they just stay out of topics that don't concern their direct interests and act like it doesn't exist which is probably one of the reasons they are so lonely. They have such an extreme lack off interest for anything that doesn't directly concern them and forget it exists.

>>82421581
Even that is earned or at least to the point that it's not lost. Parents love their children for no reason when they're born but it's also easily lost if you don't act decent enough.

>>82420576 (OP)
yeah....
i dont really have any hope...
maybe it would be ok. it probably would turn out bad

im just waiting for robowaifus at this point. you roasties won, i cant compete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxkexl80cjc

>>82422295
That looks really hot though, the fact that their bodies are entirely visibly mechanical especially.

>>82421846
stop being entitled = know your place loser, and shutup

>>82420762
bla bla bla
you're here because you're insecure and you want to feel better about yourself
so you kick angry sad people while they're down, all these mean threads you reference aren't actually directed at anyone they're just upset people screaming into the void to let off steam
you are a bad person
the lowliest freak on r9k is better than (You), remember that
insecure nothing person
kys promptly

>>82423181
Sucks being on the other side of the fence right?
>Muh muh am entitled to making my threads on how foids are all cavemen and only go for chads but someone singling me out makes that person the baddy!

You deserve your misery and you are lonely due to your own faults.