Thread 82428056

Why do women come to this place and claim they like fat, autistic, poor or virgin men? Everyone knows that women hate this type of men and only want chad, money or be enterainted aka neurotypicals.

Normies exist, sure. But non normies also exist.

It is not hard to imagine that they exist in the opposite sex.

>>82428069
Allmost all women are normalfags and they all want chad no exceptions.

>>82428079
>no exceptions
You can make the exact same argument about men wanting Stacy and it is exactly as fallacious.

Weird chicks exist. They have their own problems, but they're out there

>>82428089
Na most men here just want a girl who loves them. Pure "no u" projection women use.

>>82428111
>Pure "no u" projection
Nigger that is exactly what you are doing. A woman can say "No I don't want a Chad I want a guy that will love me" and you'll just stick your nose up and say "no you don't."

There are plenty of families where the man and/or woman are less than "ideal" but they still live happily and such. You just want an excuse to give up before you even begin because you have low self-esteem.

>>82428123
No I give up because I know how women have treated me all my life. Women HATE autistic men like nothing else.

>>82428144
Normies do in general. You have sample bias because you have interacted with far fewer women than men. You also have previously put them on a pedestal with the expectation that they would be nicer than men and have no compensated by claiming they are of a lower status than men in your eyes.

They're just people. They have flaws and can be assholes. They can also be interesting and good natured. Don't think of them as anything but human.

>>82428167
I have interacted with far more women than men and even autistic or non normalfag women are like this, they are all like this. The few guys I have interacted with online have been nice and only a few ghosted me.
>and have no compensated by claiming they are of a lower status than men in your eyes.
Lies I never claimed that.

>>82428212
>far more women than men
Over the internet or in real life? You have to remember that there are a lot of liars on the internet, and a lot of weird dudes that are lonely and willing to pretend to be women.

>never claimed that.
You are claiming that women are a monolith and all hold a specific negative trait.

>>82428123
>There are plenty of families where the man and/or woman are less than "ideal" but they still live happily and such
No there aren't. Plenty of marriages end in divorce (80% initiated by the woman), and most women only marry an average guy after she's whored herself out to a bunch of Chads. Are there SOME couples like that? Sure, but it's far from the majority.

>>82428230
>You are claiming that women are a monolith
They are compared to men. Greater male variability hypothesis. Generalizations are more accurate when made about women when compared to men

>>82428230
>Over the internet or in real life?
Internet I can't do irl because I am autistic and have no idea where to meet women.
>and willing to pretend to be women.
Lol I always ask for some kind of verification and don't talk with people who can't do that.
>You are claiming that women are a monolith and all hold a specific negative trait.
Because they are this is just a fact does not make them lower status just that they only like this specific things in men and hate other things in men.

>>82428056 (OP)
I like all of the above but having them all in just one guy will be like hell on earth but every characteristic op mentioned could work and chads are normies at the end of the day and that is kinda boring

>>82428278
Not OP but you don't like fat men though.

>>82428240
>Plenty of marriages
~36%, not a majority

>after she's whored herself out to a bunch of Chads
And generally the man has also slept around. He might be less selective, but if both partners have done it then why just blame the woman?

>>82428247
>hypothesis
Can it be proven? I don't think either sex is a monolith and I have seen nothing to convince me otherwise.

>>82428264
>Internet
That's a massive influence. The terminally online are different from people in reality.

>ask for some kind of verification
And what kind of women do you think you are speaking to when you want them to first verify that they are women and they are willing to do so before interacting with you? You have already put an expectation on the relationship before it has began and filtered a good number of people who simply want a genuine conversation.

Women don't like to feel like you are only talking to them because of the hole between their legs. At least the stable ones don't.

>this is just a fact
It is an observation that comes almost exclusively from desperate and terminally online men.

>>82428340
I shortly dated a fat guy and i rlly liked him he was the light of my days until he started doing coke he was rlly cute tho kinda like an inde musician vibe, I also liked playing with his mantits

>>82428365
>I shortly dated a fat guy and i rlly liked him he was the light of my days until he started doing coke
But why do women date fat men when they can date fit men? Fat men are gross.

Lol I saw this YouTube video and they were drinking champagne worth 10,000. And they made a point to mention how they didnt even drink it, and just left it there. Hehe, nobody noticed. They even upsell the concept of wealth here. Because its not enough to merely have wealth dude they have to sell you how awesome it is. The demons who live here are omnipotent aliens. They make the YouTube videos dude. Theyre doing something pretty bad im gathering.

>>82428342
>36% of marriages end in divorce
When, in 1950?

>>82428414
Current stats, my nigga

>>82428387
I don't see the appeal of fit guys i talked to a fit man in uni but there was nothing too appealing abt his physical appearance but i liked his autistic approach to his interest but we was just like an edtwt bitch who counted his calories and never tried to make time for me so that is the image i have of fit guys

>>82428089
They exist but they have very specific types that they fixate over. They almost exclusively chase white weirdos because again, it's a social hierarchy thing. The one time I've seen this happen btw it was a guy who appeared weird but had his own little discord group and was social

>>82428481
>I don't see the appeal of fit guys
But you see the appeal of fat guys? Right
>but we was just like an edtwt bitch who counted his calories and never tried to make time for me so that is the image i have of fit guys
But what if he made tome for you and didn't count his calories? You should give it a chance. Not all fit men are like that.

>>82428342
>36%
Assuming that Figure is accurate that's still "plenty", it's over 1/3rd

>can it be proven
It's been proven several times. IQ scores and sexual dominance/submission are a few examples. Males generally have greater variation in traits than women outside of sex-specific traits like height, testosterone, strength

>>82428056 (OP)
I dated my fat looksmatch irl and even he couldn't tolerate me and ghosted me and we had discord drama later on.

Thats another story doe.

The issue wasn't his weight, the issue was that we didn't like each other.

>>82428800
>I dated my fat looksmatch irl and even he couldn't tolerate me and ghosted me and we had discord drama later on
That's so gross. Can't believe that you dated a fat man. He probably stinked.
>The issue wasn't his weight, the issue was that we didn't like each other.
I think that a fit man would be better for you.

>>82428800
Correction, I liked him but he didn't like me. The problem isn't looks or weight or autism. It just boils down to tolerating someone and wanting them in your life.

>>82428524
I mean yeah but usually fit guys aren't that nerdy autistic type I'm chasing, plus they feel more dominant but less threatening

>>82428889
>I mean yeah but usually fit guys aren't that nerdy autistic type
What if there was a fit guy who was? Would you really pick a fat guy over him?

>>82428089
>>82428069
you seem to be thinking that a woman is just a man but the opposite

>>82428774
It's plenty, but it's far less than the generally touted idea that it's half.

>IQ scores and sexual dominance/submission are a few examples
And what of hobbies, attitudes, personality traits, etc? Even still, are there not multiple archetypes for women?

>>82428056 (OP)
I was on YouTube right now and some foid did an edit of Geffrey from school of '09. I don't know if the comments on there calling him cute are ironic, but those people wouldn't be that nice to those nerd incel characters irl

>>82428896
I would pick the one with the autism type that apeals the most to me, the one with the more whimsy in his soul wins

You guys are missing the core issue.
The truth is this: You will momentarily catch a foid's attention if you happen to act in some kind of Chad manner or exhibit some kind of Chad trait. Even if you're fat or short or bald or all three. This is why fembots and normies are saying "looks don't matter" but can't explain exactly why. It's acts of Chadism that matter to a foid, even small ones.

Now, after catching a foid's attention, if she is a stacy, then she disregards you because she can do better in the looks/wealth departments. She may even say "ew" at you or give you a ugly look. But when the foid is a non-stacy, she does not disregard the you and you do have a chance. This is why the normie and redditor invasion on r9k pushes against the blackpill so hard. And they talk about couples who look like they're dating down (but they rarely show them, because it rarely happens). But, they're full of shit because "getting a chance" a relationship does not make.

Because when you enter that relationship, you are by no means "safe". You are the furthest thing from safe. Even if she says she'll love you forever, she will not. She's lying to you, albiet unintentionally. Instinctively, her love is contingent on you continuing your little random acts of Chad forever, IF you're lucky. What usually happens is that she expects the Chad acts to increase in both frequency and amounts of Chadness as the relationship progresses. That's partly because the nature of human desire is that it isn't static. It sets a bar and then it wants the next thing. And if you aren't offering increased Chadness, her eyes and heart and cootchie will wander. And she WILL find someone willing to pipe her in this world of horny men and she WILL in a moment of weakness cheat. And then she'll call you abusive if you bust her cheating, because you don't understand "You made me do this!" (by not filling her Chad fix. She's the junkie and you've become her dealer and if you don't pony up the goods, she'll get it elsewhere). That's worst case actually. If you're a good guy, she'll break up with you first before any sleeping around but it's essentially the same thing. She doesn't love you "that way" anymore. But the truth is that she never did. She loved the image of you she made in her mind from your few acts of Chadness before you were dating. When the true you turned out not to be her mental image of you, her love for you evaporated or worse, she icked the fuck out. ("love" as in intimate interest, not "I love you as a person." Because she will insist she still loves you but she does not 'love' you). But that's later. During the time she believes in her image of you, she will do things she believes will bring more Chadness out of you.

>>82428056 (OP)
The reason you think Chad is low effort is because you don't know what effort is. Chad is constantly putting in effort to maintain his Chadom. If Chad stopped trying, he'd become a fat ugly neet too.

That is completely backwards. Neets have nothing to lose, and it requires no effort to ask out a woman. It's a literal cannot lose situation, but incels are too scared to try anything.

To girls, bringing a man's chadness out usually means being subby and feminine. She later calls this "the effort she put into the relationship when she tried make it work". She may cook things for you, she me write you notes, she may offer sex more often than she wants and ask after your fets and try to fill them. Her reasoning is that if she plays the role of the woman harder, then you will naturally grow into the role of the man harder. "Man" meaning "do more Chad stuff". She NEEDS her life sprinkled with acts of Chadness in order to stay interested. It is an irrefutable law of nature. And when foids try to ignore it, they ALWAYS fail. This is because it's like holding a weight with an outstrecthed arm. You can manage it for a while, but eventually you have to put it down now matter how strong you are. Even Dwayne Johnson on peak roids has to put it down eventually. With foids it's the inverse. The mental stress of not getting enough Chad acts from her bf, and the feelings of her missing out and her life passing her by, and she bottles up the negative feelings inside until it explodes and she cheats or fights you on things that aren't really her issue because she can't express herself properly.

This is confusing to the guy because as far as he can tell, she fell in love with him as he was when she met him. But the truth is that she didn't. She fell in love with the boy's percieved "Chad capacity" at the time. And the longer he stays the same, the further he drifts away from that dreamed up Chad capacity, the more she loses interest in him. The less she does for him because the Chad dream is dead or dying and the motivation us evaporating or completely gone.

For guys it's like "just be as cute sometimes". You can be a hot mess the rest of the time. You can grow old and wrinkly. Just keep being you and keep being with him. That's literally it. Simple.

>>82429199
But the fit one looks better.

So you >>82428069 are a liar by omission. When a weird moid gives a weird foid a chance, he will stay with that weird foid forever and all she has to do is be herself the whole time. She doesn't have to improve, just be the girl that he met. But when a weird foid gives a weird moid a chance, he can't just be himself to maintain the relationship. He is sitting on a ticking time bomb counting down to zero. If he doesn't increase his chaddness to her liking by then, it's over. And once it's over, there's no going back.

And that's confusing to the guy because if he offers to do all the things he was doing before the relationship ended, she should be interested again but she's not and he doesn't know why. The reason why is that she wasn't ever dating the real him, she was dating her mental image of him who had a higher Chad capacity than he really does and she has learned that he doesn't have it or at least she can't get it out of him with the foid standard tricks of cooking for him and/or giving him effortful bjs, things like that.

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>>82429702
Nigga that is so much fucking text

There are a few weird exceptions to the above. One is SJW foids. In the rare case a foid is on the SJW of mental illenss AND she has a beautiful body at the same time, she will often choose to devote herself to a conventionally ugly man as a weird, charitable act. This is because many SJWs have an OCD for equality and redistributing to the disadvantaged and all that. She is feeding her OCD through the relationship with the disadvantaged ugly male and rewarding the him with a pretty gf/wife. If he has a decent enough personality, they'll stay together a long time. This is often where you get that rare picture of an uggo dating a qt and it isn't explained by wealth or fame.

>>82428056 (OP)
neurodivergence is not a thing lol

>>82429740
Yeah, true. Just don't even read it. Do something fun with your time. Let the foids be foids.

>>82428524
you can't really be fit without tracking your calories and macros, at best you can be skinny or skinny fat

>>82429772
That should read "SJW spectrum of mental illness".

>>82428056 (OP)
Women can have varied preferences too, but it's rare, and due to their biological drive for submissiveness and gynocentric tribalism, they're weaker to peer pressure.
If she likes you, doesn't fucking matter, she'll consult with her council of roasties about you and if they can't all agree on you, she won't choose you.
There could be a woman out there who finds you her type, maybe by some mutation, but the reason she'd never date you isn't because she doesn't find you attractive, but because she values her social standing with her friends more than she does you. Very shallow creatures, but it's not their fault, that's just how their brains work. Having a chad bf as an accessory is an instant trip to the top, so social conditioning pavlovs them into desiring only him.
t. raised by women

>>82429485
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>>82429702
This series of posts constitutes probably the most salient, based set of observations of the abject dysfunction of women and modern relationships I've ever read anywhere on the internet.

These posts should be considered essential reading for all robots, and should be preserved as some kind of Rosetta Stone analogue for future generations.

>>82429932
Thanks for the feedback. I don't want such an ugly unedited mess out in the world but this isn't about me so here it is for any anon who could benefit from it.

Low light version

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>>82430240
Saved in preparation for tactical TRVKE deployment.

>>82429623
>For guys it's like "just be as cute sometimes".
Did you mean for girls?

>>82428056 (OP)
>poor
that's the one thing nobody likes. every other gross male trait has somebody who's into it, but poor is only acceptable if you're some bohemian chad type.

>>82431039
It's a typo, it's meant to say "just be cute sometimes". It's fixed now.