Thread 82429850

>adam and eve eat apple
>god punishes eve twice
>first he makes childbirth painful
>then "You shall desire your husband, but he shall lord it over you"

What did they mean by this? I think if you asked the average western man today if he felt "desired" or "needed" he would laugh at you for coming up with something so stupid. Especially so when being asked if he felt desired by women specifically. So what changed? Was it women's rights and empowerment that created this social paradigm? Now that we all share the same liberties, the only difference between men and women is that women are desired sexually by default. In game theory terms, this is a massive advantage that allows women to control society by holding sex hostage. The worst part is it completely undermines our "liberties" that erroneously claim we are equals. The irony is crazy, everyone fought so hard to become equal and it was never possible in the first place. Does society recover from this or is it Rome part 2?

>>82429850 (OP)

As I understand it ,that verse means women will simultaneously desire to be led by man but also subjugated by him. It's funny how one of the first lessons of the Bible is not to give women power or listen to them.

>>82429850 (OP)
Having a husband as a lord isn't a punishment, it's a blessing to make up for the difficulty of childbirth
>>82429850 (OP)
>Was it women's rights and empowerment that created this social paradigm?
Yes but ted k was right in that technology changing the fundamental rules of our existence makes this outcome inevitable

Also our society decided to let women keep being treated like special princesses in reality while larping as independent girlbosses. If feminism had brought actual, real, equality things would be different
>>82429850 (OP)
>Does society recover from this or is it Rome part 2?
Imo it's irrecoverable and it will vastly eclipse the fall of Rome.

Personally I think the entire white race will be destroyed

>>82429850 (OP)
I'm so happy that someone else can understand the need vs desire pill.

When I see the likes of Andrew Wilson rolling up their sleeve and building heavyweight debates with women in the 80-90 IQ range around how they NEED men to do shit for them and never once say anything about men being loved or desired because they don't even consider it a possibility, I kinda want to kill myself.