Thread 82430830

I really want to finally kill myself and be free of this retarded existence. The problem is every time I get close I always pussy out. I normally tell myself stuff like "I don't want to quit without trying a little harder" or "things could always get better tomorrow" and other dumb shit like that. Help me not be a pussy and get it over with.

>>82430830 (OP)

You need to use the time that you are alive to prepare for death. What does "prepare" mean? We must return and ask ourselves the big three questions: (1) Who am I? (2) Why am I here? (3) What must I do in this life? Only Gnosticism and other such-related religions has the answers to these questions. The Demiurge traps us all here in his wicked material prison of matter and flesh, and if we are not prepared to leave upon death, if we do not have gnosis, we shall return, reincarnated and without memory yet again in another prison we call the human body. Do not let him farm you for loosh.

End the cycle.

>>82430830 (OP)
>don't want to quit without trying a little harder" or "things could always get better tomorrow"
These are worth telling yourself.

Death is an eventuality. You can quit while you're a loser and be a loser forever and also a quitter, or keep going and have the possibility of turning things around. At the very least, go to your grave with the pride of knowing you didn't call it before it was over

I don't want you to commit suicide, I want you to get better and feel ok, because I want to believe I will get that too

>>82430866
Or he could suffer another sixty years for no reason, whether life is really worth being lived is up to OP since his standard of loser likely deviates from anyone elses

>>82430889
Suffer for sixty years, suffer Hellfire for eternity, suffer tomorrow and stop suffering forever... we don't know what will happen.

Obviously I can't stop OP if he decides to do it but I'm gonna make my case for why it's fucking retarded. Some of us have actually had to deal with suicide and the consequences it has for us and those around us. Some of us have had to physically stop people from committing suicide. Don't try to fucking shame me stopping another one, jackass.

>>82430830 (OP)
Anon, you're too much of a weak-willed cuck to even attempt to not be a loser. What makes you think you could ever hhave the balls to off yourself?

>>82430926
What if he goes to Hell regardless though? Kek may as well get it over with

>>82430830 (OP)
>The problem is every time I get close I always pussy out.
Have you tried any anti-anxiety drugs? Benzos and gabapentin are good for anxiety. If you're willing to take SSRIs, paroxetine seems to be good for anxiety.
High street pharma is legit and economical

>>82430982
>What if he goes to Hell regardless
And what if he doesn't? You're playing what if with someone's life. And the vast majority of near suicides regret what they did.

If we're playing what if, we'll go off of established data. Most people don't actually want to die, they just want an end to their suffering. Improving your station in life solves the problem damn near 100% of the time

>>82430864
End it how?
>>82430866
That is of no value to me
>>82430872
That's fair but it's not om the table for me right now
>>82430971
You much be the only one actually helping me
>>82431011
I don't like drugs
>>82431108
And how many people actually have lives that drastically improve eventually

>>82430864
forgive me for asking but can you please post the rest of these if you have them? I'm ready to take whatever kind of pill this is, I have seen these before but I don't have them saved

>>82432256
Do you have a friend? I can offer chatting

>>82430830 (OP)
>hates trannys
>wants to an hero
Yep the right wing death cult is strong. Conservatives worship death, hatred, and everything vile and dark in the world. Liberals affirm life, want everyone to be prosperous and healthy and are generally kinder better people.

Normally I'd try to convince someone like OP to get therapy or give them some advice, but you honestly sound like a miserable person who wants to drag everyone else down with them.

>>82432256
>That's fair but it's not om the table for me right now
It is. Just don't kill yourself. If you try hard enough and don't give up, you'll probably start living a quality life and if not, you can still be happy by doing good deeds and because of other things. Also, consider that maybe you can actually live happily without some things you think you need, even though you'll probably get them anyways. There are many people who decided not to kill themselves or failed and are happy they made that decision.

>>82432288
No. I don't really have much desire to try
>>82432314
Leftists quite literally argue that mothers have a "right" to chop their own babies into pieces and sell them for parts
>>82432357
Are you seriously telling me you think I've never considered this before

>>82432400
>Leftists quite literally argue that mothers have a "right" to chop their own babies into pieces and sell them for parts
stem cell research does show lots of promise doe, could find a cure for cancer even

>>82432400
Nice exaggeration chud. You want to flood the world with babies who will be neglected, grow up in poverty, get abused by the world, etc. Leftists understand that its better to not let unwanted children come into the world in the first place. You only want more life for the sake of "number go up" but you dont care about children once they are here. You are against mandatory paid maternity leave. You are against universal Healthcare. You are against minimum wage laws and the funding of public schools. What makes you despicable is that you pretend to be good when really you are the biggest most unempathetic greedy shortsighted scumbag of them all.

And that's why much like OP (or maybe you are op) you are suicidal, because deep down you know you are a bitter angry little freak that worships death, lies and destruction. And what little is left of your conscience can't handle who you are.

>>82432456
dont bother speaking reason to a mentally ill narcissistic sperg

>>82432456
The type of person to write something like this directed towards a suicidal person is not empathetic at all. You are a very angry, mean-spirited person taking out your anger and projecting all your hate onto some random suicidal anon. As someone who shares a belief in many of the things you mentioned. This isn't directed towards any of your political "beliefs", this is directed solely towards (You) anon. You are a horrible person, and should feel bad.

>>82432400
>Are you seriously telling me you think I've never considered this before
What exactly makes you want to kill yourself? IDK, have some job. Maybe get a wife, but you can be happy without one too. Perhaps find friends if you can. You don't need much to be happy and even without those things you can be. I'm sure there's a way to fix your problems. Maybe if you can't get a job educate yourself somehow so you can get one? Move to another country where it'll be easier. Even if your life quality isn't the highest, you can still be happy by helping other people for example.

>>82432575
...life is so good it's worth it to not give up an try.

>>82430830 (OP)
You're right, things could always get better tomorrow. But where does that get you the next time you're feeling down? Always stuck hoping that tomorrow is better, and then it's not. Commit now and be at peace. Fuck the rest of this thread.

>>82432278

they're all at the beginning of this thread:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/202584147/

>>82432400
You can also just enjoy just living a normal, comfortable life with doing normal, enjoyable things which everyone does but can make you happy that come with it. Like walking outside, eating food, doing fun things... Such a life I doubt is impossible to achieve. Even without that, life is still worth living though.

>>82432575
I could be happy without those things? Maybe, but I could also be unhappy with those things

I have no reason to believe I would be happy even if I did get everything I want. My life is easy as fuck, I'm vastly smarter than average and I go to a cheap christian college, and I am not that ugly, if I cared to I could easily get a cute virgin wife, become a doctor, make hundreds of thousands per year, etc. But I don't care. I wouldn't even be happy then. >>82432593
That exactly what I mean

>>82432593
>Always stuck hoping that tomorrow is better, and then it's not.
Or it is... The possibility is always there.

>>82432611
Then why are you unhappy? You have all of these things, you can get all of these things, which make everyone happy, because they bring joy and make living enjoyable. Is it some mental illness? Maybe you should go to a therapist, idk.

Demons are / the spiritual world is real. I can tell you that with 100% certainty. I can not tell you about the afterlife but considering almost every religion has something of a hell you might want to stay here as long as you can

>>82432631
>brain fried by the possibility of someone who doesn't chase the same things as yourself
>>82432634
My life is basically hell already. At least if I die and go to hell I don't have to fake anything or beg for scraps anymore

>>82432598
thanks anony, much appreciated

>>82432640
>>brain fried by the possibility of someone who doesn't chase the same things as yourself
Then what do you chase? And why don't you chase those things too? They make living enjoyable.

>>82432650
...I mean they bring joy to most people, why not to you? And what do you chase if not those things?

>>82432641

No problem, anonino. Knowledge is everything. Good luck attaining gnosis and escaping the Demiurge's material prison.

>>82432400
>No. I don't really have much desire to try
Why not? It's free, doesn't hurt. What if it turns out suicide really isn't worth it? Life is good enough to think about this.

>>82432650
>>82432662
I don't chase anything. That's the problem. But those things don't make living enjoyable, at least not for me. Why is it so hard for you to comprehend someone being different from you
>>82432718
Life really is not good enough to think of this. It's not like I've never had a single friend before

>>82432725
>But those things don't make living enjoyable, at least not for me.
Well loving someone, being loved, bringing others joy, physical pleasures, having fun... These are all things which bring most people joy. Chemicals get released in our brain which make us feel good. At least for most people.
Why do you not find them enjoyable? Do they really not bring any pleasure to you? Perhaps, but maybe there's some problem which is stopping you from enjoying them and maybe it can be fixed. Please go to a therapist, psychiatrist or something. A good life with those pleasures is worth the effort, I guarantee!
Actually, is there anything that brings you joy? Does absolutely nothing bring you pleasure or are there some things that do? If so, why not just do them. Doing pleasurable things makes life pleasurable. They're likely not impossible to achieve, so if they aren''t immoral, go for them.

>>82432793
Let me go through this for you
>Well loving someone
I don't experience this
>Being loved
I don't experience this
>Briinging others joy
I don't experience thid
>Physical pleasures
Are overrsted as fuck
>Having fun...
I always quickly get bored of whatever new "fun" thing I pick up, and they're all getting hella expensive anyways
>Does absolutely nothing bring you pleasure
Yes

>>82432829
>>Well loving someone
>I don't experience this
>>Being loved
>I don't experience this
>>Briinging others joy
>I don't experience thid
You said yourself you can have those things with little effort:
>and I am not that ugly, if I cared to I could easily get a cute virgin wife
And you can probably get lots of joy by helping other people and bringing them joy too. You'll be meaningful to society, make the world better.

>>82432857
Getting a wife is absolutely not the same as being loved you fucking dumbass. Usually it's the opposite.
>>82432857
>And you can probably get lots of joy by helping other people
I honestly don't really care to. No one has ever done anything for me they weren't asked to. Besides it's not like I can actually fix anyones' important problems long term, and if I could it wouldn't be worth living just for that

>>82432883
There are plenty of long term problems you can fix. Go volunteer to work with seniors - there are so many problems they have that you can fix easily.

>>82432883
>Getting a wife is absolutely not the same as being loved you fucking dumbass. Usually it's the opposite.
There are many people in happy marriages that love each other. You just have to pick a good wife. Even then, you can get good people for friends who'll love you for example. There are many ways to love and be loved.
>No one has ever done anything for me they weren't asked to.
There are many people who would. You just had bad luck or they didn't think of it. If you do good things, you get good things in return.
>Besides it's not like I can actually fix anyones' important problems long term
You can or at least be part of it.
>and if I could it wouldn't be worth living just for that
Why not? What's a greater joy than bringing other people joy?
>I always quickly get bored of whatever new "fun" thing I pick up, and they're all getting hella expensive anyways
Well there are fun things which are cheap or free and some things which can't get boring for some people, like going out with friends or something or movies for example as these things always offer something new.

>>82432943
>>82432943
>What's a greater joy than bringing other people joy?
Another thing that has never happened to me which I have no faith in

I hate you fucking dumbass normies so much honestly. At least now I'm more sure than ever that I'm right and there's no point in remaining alive

>>82430830 (OP)
You can die for Serbia instead of by your own hand you know?

>>82432964
Why are you so rude? I'm trying to help you.
>Another thing that has never happened to me which I have no faith in
You think there aren't people who would do you good? That there aren't any like-minded people? Not a single one in the world? With enough effort, you will find like-minded people who'll love you. You're not the only one.
Also, why should people do things for you if you didn't ask? Maybe they don't know you need help. If they are ready to help you when asked, then what's wrong with that? *Plus if you do good to other people, you might inspire them to become better people too. You can propagandize being a good person.*

Also I suggest going to a therapist. One can give you better advice than me probably. If you're going to kill yourself, then why does it matter if you spend some money and time. If it turns out life really is worth it and you et convinced of that, then it's worth trying it because of that possibility. Or at least die doing something good instead of killing yourself, because you're going to die anyways.

>>82432829
You are the greater sum of the one around you. It seems you have no one around you so your sum is 0 leaving you with no desire to live. not a answer just an observation.

>>82430830 (OP)
>Help me not be a pussy
Okay.
Only pussies kill themselves.
Good luck.

>>82433042
>Just try harder bro
Nah, I'm good. Thanks for helping me tho

>>82433116
Why? I think a happy life is good enough to fight for. If you're going to kill yourself, why not just try before that, you might as well. There are plenty of people happy they didn't kill themselves.
Which of the things I said aren't true. There are many good people and it probably isn't that hard to find them. If you do good you can make bad people good. You probably don't even have to try that hard. It's worth trying. And worth going to therapy. If you end up living happily, it's worth it. If you're going to commit suicide, you might as well, it doesn't matter.

>>82433116
Maybe you have a mental health issue. Go to a mental health professional and maybe it can be fixed. If it's possible to live a happy life, then why not try?

>>82433116
You could easily try and get rid of your problems buts you dont, if you can find something that will give you the want to try the rest will follow. If you dont want to be happy you never will. happiness isnt going to walk up to you and punch you in the face.

>>82433116
And if all else fails, maybe just try living life normally like a normal person for a bit without thinking if you enjoy he things you do or not. Maybe you'll start liking it or something, IDK. But I seriously think you should consider the things I suggested because I like my life and I think life is amazing so it's worth fighting for and if you're gonna kill yourself, you might as well put some minimal effort into fixing it.

>>82433223
This. Do this.

>>82433116
FIGHT FOR SERBIA! DESTORY THE MUSLIMS!

>>82432829
Love is the main thing that makes people happy. Most normal, happy people won't be AS happy without it even if they have the other things. But a lot of people love and are loved. You can find it too. There are enough good people who are ready to love you.

>>82432883
>No one has ever done anything for me they weren't asked to.
And not to sound prideful, but I made these replies despite you not asking for them and despite me not really feeling like it and wanting to sleep.

>>82433290
For what it's worth, I'm not chatgpt or op and this actually warmed me. Thanks bro.

>>82433354
Well, you shouldn't have because I'm more resolved to kill myself than ever. I never said anyone else is supposed to do anything for me, you're the one who said I ought to do things for others

>>82433395
Whether you believe it or not God does love you and has done everything for you without you having asked for anything. All good things come from God alone.

Anons I want to apologize for being so mean. I had no reason to be.

Thank you for helping me. I think I finally have the resolve to actually kill myself. Thinking about it has made me very relaxed and put me in a good mood. I will never have to worry about anything ever again. Complete freedom is at my fingertips. Thanks for entertaining me when I was bored, everyone. It means a lot.

>>82433945
I'm genuinely, spontaneously smiling for the first time in months. I should have done this years ago honestly, like I've been wanting to

>>82430830 (OP)
why would you kill yourself? you are going to die eventually anyway. so might aswell live for now

>>82433960
The thing is, living has costs. A lot of them. The cost/benefit ratio of living is worse than that of dying, in my opinion

Here's the thing anons. I have never felt loved in my entire life. No one ever treats me like I'm worth listening to or takes notice of my opinion. Since community is the basis of human life, and I fundamentally don't fit into any community, I basically have no reason to exist.

I think I'm gonna do it now. My gun is in my lap. There is a round chambered and the safety is off. I already pointed it at my chest but I put it down to text my dad where my car is so tweakers don't steal it. I'm going to shoot myself in the chest not the head so that my corpse won't be completely fucked up to look at. Goodbye

>>82430830 (OP)
If you can't bring yourself to kill yourself even though you have all the materials, you will NEVER do it.

People who successfully died by suicide literally had 0 hesitation or fear when they did it, most likely through a psychotic episode or just naturally had nerves of steel. You are not one of those people

So don't try it anymore, and try to make your life better because i know 100% you'd feel extreme regret as you're dying and want to back out of it. I KNOW that for a fact

>>82435412
What about all the stories of people who are about to jump off bridges before a random passerby grabs them

>>82434691
if this is real, then goodbye...

>>82434691
You've probably killed yourself, but I still want to say this. I'm sure you'll find friends eventually. There are enough people in this world and there's a train for everyone. Maybe if you try harder you'll fit in, maybe a therapist can help you fit in.