Thread 82432786

Putin is killing more Ukrainians. I thought you should know since you seen concerned about Ukrainian safety all of a sudden /r9k/

>>82432786 (OP)
Yes I'm concerned at the fact that society sees the vast majority of men as disposable pawns to be killed off en masse. Murder draft officers and light them on fire inshallah

>>82432786 (OP)
yes thats horrible, i wish both countries would have sent their roasties to kill each other instead

>>82432786 (OP)
if i was ukrainian i would be fine living under russian rule if it meant i wouldnt get sent to die in a trench

this war is stupid and ukraine is obviously not even a real country anyway, neither is russia. ukrainians and russians are literally identical in every way except the language

>>82432786 (OP)
nice strawman, op

is PUTLER killing Ukrainians who are in the US and on a bus minding their own business?

>>82432806
Russia is a (((multi-cultural))) country. Ukraine is only slavoid. One is real and it's not Russia.

>>82432805
t. jewess

hating girls who are way hotter than you is a bad look, sweetheart

>>82432823
russia is barely multicultural, even their ethnic minorities are heavily russified and don't commonly speak their own languages besides maybe chechens or dagestanis
>Ukraine is only slavoid. One is real and it's not Russia.
yeah i would say ukrainians are actual genetic slavs, russians are finno-ugric or baltic people who were slavicized, but culturally there is no difference between them

ukrainians and russians eat the same exact food like borsht, they have the same religion of russian orthodoxy, they are both cossacks, they have the same dances etc etc

its all fake this war was made up by jews

>>82432806
>if i was ukrainian i would be fine living under russian rule if it meant i wouldnt get sent to die in a trench
NOOO BUT MUH LAND, THIS IS TREASONOUS, PUTIN DOESN'T DESERVE THE LAND JEWLENSKY CAN NEVER SURRENDER

>>82432823
If I was a Ukrainian citizen, this is the exact line of reasoning I would give to the Zelensky kidnapping vans.

>>82432837
>russified
This is a made up culture. It was constructed to ensure the multi-culturalism would work similar to American "culture". Russia tried to Russify Ukraine and failed hence why they aren't the same country now and why Ukraine is willing to fight to the death to oppose the globohomo Russian hordes.

>>82432854
I would forge a PMC just to track down those kidnapping faggots then torture and kill them

>>82432841
ukraine is gonna surrender eventually anyway, they don't have infinite manpower and resources and america is getting tired of giving them gibs i just hope the retarded russian army doesn't go on mass rampages like they did in bucha which would give ukrainians an actual reason to rebel
>>82432856
russian and ukrainian culture is just one unified "rus" culture, there is LITERALLY no difference between the two. this is why "ukraine" existing is fucking retarded, it's like saying the southern part of france that speaks occitan should be independent and not a part of france. ukraine speaking a different language doesnt mean anything when almost all of europe spoke different languages from city to city even in the same country

ukraine was literally part of the russian empire for like 500 years and there was no such concept of a ukrainian state or identity even during the Kievan rus period until the cossack hetmans made it up to try to get independent from moscow

also contrary to what ukrainian nationalists say cossacks aren't an inherently ukrainian thing and there are russian cossacks and most ukrainians are not descended from cossacks nor related to them in any way

>>82432898
>there is LITERALLY no difference
>t. Amerifat
lol

>>82432906
my mother is from the soviet union and my great grandmother is ukrainian, i ate borscht my whole life i would know about this shit. also she's an extreme pro-ukrainian nationalist even if she isn't even from there

>if a country invades you, you should let them take over and rule you without resistance

this is actually what rightoids believe in 2025

>>82432917
I didnt say that. I just want men to have a choice in the matter. Conscription is akin to slavery and a barbaric practice.

>>82432917
nice strawman but about the best we could expect from low IQ pookrainian supporters

>>82432806
What do you gain from being a Putin sympathizer for free

>>82432917
>2025
Celine said it too as a decorated cavalryman in ww1, doctor and accomplished writer 100 years ago.
What difference does it make if your landlord was suddenly a chinese man or if you had to pay in marks instead of dollars.
>But what if they are tyrannical
Thats another issue isnt it. Unless you are saying diversity isnt our strength

>>82432917
europeans dont have countries, only different economic zones that only exist to enrich the ruling elites. fight and die for what? so some ukrainian or western billionaire can exploit you instead of a russian one? lol. people who find freedumbs(tm) and western values so important should go and fight, but dont force the average person to die in the frontlines. i mean forced conscription must be against your beloved freedoms and human rights, right mr enlightened progressive?

>>82432786 (OP)
You actually have a better chance at surviving if you fight on the front lines against the Russians then sitting in front of a black man

I like how Ukraine is reporting they're winning and only have 10,000 caualties while Russia has over a million. Meanwhile, the actual count is the same with 100k range.

>>82433037
To me it feels a bit like the aids thing. Russian hiv rates being thrown around all the time and then you look at a map and they're both fucking up hard.

>>82433037
I've come to find that both sides are absolutely delusional about their casualty counts.

>>82433072
this, they are all just doing propaganda

>>82433085
We'll probably never know the actual numbers. Many of these soldiers didn't have a choice and many of them young adults and teens who didn't get a chance in life. This war was proof that 99% of men are seen as expendable pawns and will be forgotten with time.

>>82432837
BaZed
I am proud of my balto-finnish heritage

>>82433113
this war was so redpilling because you cant even cope with the usual stuff like "well it happened in long ago in the past, we are more enlightened now". if theres a war we are going into the meat grinder and women are going to leave the country to party abroad. you dont like it? you'll get a little beating from the nice recruitment officer then

>>82433166
The only thing you can realistically do is booby trap your house and even then you can't run forever after you kill recruitment officers.

>>82432917
That Russian investigation made them dictator sympathizers and that's funny if Putin controlled America if any one of them spoke out against him he would have them jailed or killed
2nd amendment would really be put to the test with those cowards

>>82433257
>you kill recruitment officers.
None of will. You cannot even do a beta uprising you all talked about starting 10 or so years ago.

>>82432786 (OP)
Go putin.
Putin Ukrainians down, ayo.
Nobody gives a fuck except redditors trying to farm social credit.

>Ugh, the war doesn't actually matter but if it did then here's a picture of a ukraine flag and a pig also I fucking hate hohol kulaks and they should all die but ugh I really hate that all these jews are sending men to die but they're subhuman anyway dirty fucking Ukrainians.
>Oh yeah? Did you consider muh Victoria Nuland? Muh Russian seperatist genocide? Muh NED IMF loans? All of the things that doesn't at all justify invading? Have you considered this is just like the US IRAQ invasion and Israeli Imperialisms? So how is it any different? That means my warcrimes are good actually.
>No I'm impartial, but I'll stray away from the mainstream view that Ukrainians don't deserve to be invaded and ignore Russian imperialism because I'm redpilled and saw putin riding a bear one time and that was super epic.

>>82434274
you got one thing wrong, russians are israel supporters or ambivalent, only muslims in russia support palestine

many russians have family in israel too

>>82432786 (OP)
that really is tragic, somebody should probably stop their retarded leader from kidnapping them off their own streets and sending them to the meat grinder

>>82432786 (OP)
I'm appalled by both the Russian and Ukrainian governments failure to negotiate an immediate end to the war
we learned nothing from the world wars, nationalism need hundreds of thousands (or is it up to millions) more human sacrifices apparently

>>82435533
If Russia surrenders the war is over
If Ukraine surrenders Ukraine is over

>>82435533
why aren't you just appalled that russia invaded ukraine?

>>82435560
What do you mean? How does Russia claiming the territory they've already gained and Ukraine joining new security alliances (bilateral+) end Ukraine?
If Zelensky took the deal Boris Johnson torpedoed there would be a million less casualties, dead wounded or missing

>>82435982
because I'm well aware that history didn't begin in 2022 and haven't fallen for the whitewash of Maidan that dominates western media
Ukraine had a civil war because Ukrainian nationalists try to overthrow the government every time they lose an election and succeeded in 2014, and Russia doesn't really care about the people in the Donbass (who the Ukrainian regime nonetheless treated horrifically) they just want to landgrab. And so does NATO, for that matter.
Two shitty oligarchies, both using nationalism to mobilize people who they treat little better than serfs, and neither are worth dying for
>>82435560
I'd rather Ukraine be over than Ukrainians be over, I'm literally older than Ukrainian independence
however, that's simply not an accurate summation of Russian peace proposals, which mostly consist of requests for territorial cessions of places they've already taken (and a couple places they haven't)

>>82436024
If Putin has never invaded there would be zero casualities

>>82436078
The same reason you don't believe that is the same reason you aren't in Moscow preaching anti Putin stuff.
If Putin takes control of Ukraine they are dead

>>82432832
Shut the fuck up, vaginal jew.

Kill all ziggers
Best money ever spent

>>82432823
>Ukraine is only slavoid
Not if their western 'allies' have anything to say about it. After all, with all the Ukrainian men dead in the trenchs, they clearly need some 'new Ukrainians' to replace them...

What a needless and wasteful war.