Thread 82435551

Why are people so mean to immigrants when all they do is work hard and try to live a better quality of life than whatever shithole they came from? I fail to see how removing them will magically solve any societal/economic issues. Seems like a distraction to draw your attention away from more serious issues.

>>82435551 (OP)
Immigrants or illegals?

>>82435551 (OP)
Because bitch immigrants come here as enemies to the state and do their best to fuck over white people. Have you not heard the news stories of shitskins RITUALISTICALLY, DELIBERATELY going out of their way to LITERALLY poison white people?

>>82435551 (OP)
>caring about becoming a minority in your own homeland just draws attention away from more serious issues like trannies going to the wrong toilet and whether rich people should be taxed 1% more or less
kys

>>82435579
Dude lets be honest here, a lot of the people subscribing to the "get rid of all the illegals" rhetoric secretly mean just mean "anyone who isn't white". Every nation in the world has historical examples of passingly anti-immigration legislation and it never really accomplishes anything. It's smoke and mirrors.
>>82435590
>Because bitch immigrants come here as enemies to the state
Naw it's like 99.9% of them are just here to work dude. Like I know the cherrypicked news stories you watch are super scary, but if you actually go outside you'll see these occurrences are not common. Also for every immigrant committing some crime there is a native citizen committing the exact same crime. This idea of dividing the human race into "us" and "them" isn't conducive towards progress in any direction.
>>82435595
Trannies are a non-issue and a culture war scapegoat. They jingle images and soundbites of weird gay people in front of you so you don't pay attention to the fact that your housing has been unaffordable for 2 decades. And yeah rich people should be taxed more.

>>82435579
The people complaining dont really give a shit about legal or illegals, they think all immigrants are coming to replace, buy up everything and outsource.

>>82435551 (OP)
scapegoating

>>82435551 (OP)
>work hard
Funny how they can't do that in their own country.

>>82435657
Wow, next you're going to tell me shitskins aren't violent and retarded, and I'm sure you'll believe you're right. Okay, well, enjoy the jeetpit, retard. Enjoy the shitskin rape of your culture because they hate everything good the best constructed. You suck.

>>82435657
>rich people hate immigration
You're fucking retarded and should kill yourself
To quote Bernie "open borders is a Koch brothers scheme"

>>82435676
>Rich people hate cheap outsource labor!
Lol kek who in their fucking right mind could ever think this?

>>82435551 (OP)
everyone who was born in this country is trying to live a better life too and they're suffering from a swarm of 10 billion guatemalans fucking ducks in ohio

they drive down wages by working for cheap, they consume housing, they clog up roads by commuting, steal seats in schools, and they never, ever integrate. it's opportunity cost all the way down

>I fail to see how removing them will magically solve any societal/economic issues.
watch and learn boy

>Naw it's like 99.9% of them are just here to work dude.
and they undercut americans by agreeing to work for substandard wages and no benefits, which americans cannot do

>Also for every immigrant committing some crime there is a native citizen committing the exact same crime.
literally wrong, see the danish study on immigration for more info

>This idea of dividing the human race into "us" and "them" isn't conducive towards progress in any direction.
a nation exists to protect its natives from outsiders, there is fundamentally us and them. this isn't an economic zone, it's our home

>>82435664
somehow we're taking in people from completely broken countries without asking what made their countries broken in the first place (their people)

>>82435695
>it's our home
I want immigrants and since it's my home too I guess that means we get to have them

>>82435705
nice try but that's treason against your homeland, you've forfeited our right to decide. enjoy uganda

>>82435713
Take your pills, goofy

>>82435664
They do work hard in their own nations but circumstances outside of their control prevent them from achieving a decent life regardless of their own personal accomplishments. Hence they abandon ship and go to any place where the concept of "hard work = good life" is still halfway alive. You'd do the exact fucking same thing if you were in their shoes and yet you judge them for it.
>>82435662
I think this is pretty much what it is. Really sad to see that scapegoating still works on people even after we've been using it for thousands of years. Like you'd think there would be a day where people would "wake up" to basic psychological trickery but naw your Average Joe is still on the same mental capacity as a Mesopotamian peasant in 2500 BC. You are not immune to propaganda, I suppose.
>>82435675
>next you're going to tell me shitskins aren't violent and retarded,
Are white people not? Do whites not rape and murder? The hundreds of millions of mixed race people in former European colonies all around the world would like to have a world with you about rape. White people, specifically the Spanish, raped so hard and wide they invented an entire new race: hispanics.
>>82435676
>rich people hate immigration
I never even said this? Shadowboxing with your own mind, dawg. I support Bernie 100% when he says stuff like we should focus on youth unemployment instead of using immigrant labor, but I also think immigrants are being unfairly pegged as the cause of a lot of issues that have little to no connection to. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

>>82435727
Suck some rapey unhygienic immigrant shitdick, traitorous cunt.

Nigel Farage is going to be our PM next year and it's going to feel so good when a plane full of muzzies leaves every hour to send them back home

>>82435551 (OP)
>I fail to see how removing them will magically solve any societal/economic issues.
It wouldn't. Rightoids need a target for their frustations but will blame everyone and everything BUT their masters because licking the boot is ingrained in them.

>>82435746
Oh great argument, now compare ANY white crime to THE SAME black crime and tell me who commits more of said crime, fucktard. I don't give a fuck if you're black just make the decision to not be a fucking moron.

>>82435746
>Average Joe is still on the same mental capacity as a Mesopotamian peasant in 2500 BC
Pretty much. Cultural and technological evolution are must faster than biological evolution, not to mention that there's no real evolutionary pressure to move past scapegoating. If anything scapegoating is probably a successful strategy evolutionarily speaking. I am not optimistic about mankind's long term prospects.

>>82435746
whew boy we got one that just fell off the reddit wagon

>>82435755
Nigger I want to kill every politician starting with one end of the politicuck spectrum and ending on the other; you are the only bootlicker of politicians faggot.

>>82435750
Take your pills blubsy-boo.

>>82435772
hot steamy pile of predigested dogshit

>>82435779
Don't mind the crane arm, it's come to lower you into the jeet rape pits shortly. Why are you crying? This is what you wanted, isn't it?! Where have all the good men gone, nona!!!

>>82435746
>They do work hard in their own nations
Then why do those countries suck ass?
>but circumstances outside of their control prevent them from achieving a decent life re
Yeah it's called their DNA.
>You'd do the exact fucking same thing if you were in their shoes and yet you judge them for it.
I'm not in their shoes and I need to protect my home from turning into a slum like theirs. They would do the same thing if they were capable and lived in a nice country: defend it from invaders.

>Really sad to see that scapegoating s
It's not scapegoating, it's opportunity cost. 10%+ youth unemployment rate muzzie, you're going home.

>>82435551 (OP)
Chat, let him cook.

>>82435791
Take your pills schizophrenic anon.

>>82435746
>Hence they abandon ship and go to any place where the concept of "hard work = good life" is still halfway alive. You'd do the exact fucking same thing if you were in their shoes and yet you judge them for it.
It is alive in their own country but then they would have to compete against their own people and they can't do that but instead want to benefit themselves from the system of other countries that they haven't developed. These immigrants don't fucking pay taxes and benefit from working for companies who also don't pay taxes.

>>82435808
>NOOO WHERE DID ALL THE GOOD MEN GO I JUST WANTED A GOOD MAAAAN-
She screams as she is lowered into the jeet pits, her olfactory senses flooded with the piercing stench of poo and gay anal sex, her clothes are torn off completely within 4.5 seconds of being fully submerged under the poopjeet waves and within 30 minutes she is already gone from exhaustion, rape, being trampled and suffocated by a million horny rapey jeets.

>>82435829
Really weird fantasy my dude. Take your pills.

>>82435833
It's not fantasy, it's reality, and it's what liberal retards like you vote for.

There is nothing libs can do to stop every country in the west from operating hourly deportation flights. America, UK, France, Germany, all of them are turning against the brown horde. Are the libs going to crack?

>>82435657
>"anyone who isn't white".
your whining aside, why do you think that access to White people is a right that you have??

>>82435753
i think you mean when billionaires get another tax cut and the minimum wage is abolished

>>82435843
thank you for trying to redirect our outrage towards a successful white man but i am going to continue focusing on the problem, the flood of 60 IQ negroids who can't drive and can't speak our language

>>82435551 (OP)
>I fail to see how supply and demand works

>>82435843
>right wingers get elected
>run economy into the ground
>blame immigrants
I'm so tired

>>82435849
the problem is actually proles being fed and taught how to read and write. based nige, public schoolboy that he is, will save the middle class from saucy boys like tommeh robinson and gaynor.
>>82435854
idk sounds pretty based to me

>>82435551 (OP)
literally because Indian people inconvenience me personally and I don't want to deal with that any more

>>82435853
>lumpy labor fallacy

>>82435551 (OP)
>Why are people so mean to immigrants when all they do is work hard and try to live a better quality of life than whatever shithole they came from
let me just direct your attention to the sign, libshit

>>82435872
>lumpy labor fallacy
>David Frederick Schloss
>the first son of Sigismund Schloss, Jewish merchant
well Well well what do we have here

>>82435869
>The honest racist
The rarest specimen of all. No justification or half-logic. Just "I simply don't like them". He was the racist the world deserved, not the one it needed.

I am very anti-immigrant but I would be happy to accept immigrants from a country with a higher GDP than ours, as I only want to accept people who are at our level of development or higher.

Being in the United States, that means I would accept immigrants from:

>>82435872
Immigration drives down wages

>>82435907
>Words from a Central Bank
compelling, no hidden agenda there

>>82435900
US GDP is a lie. All countries produce more than the US. There is no manufacturing here at all. The numbers are completely cooked. Every other country is at least twice as rich as us and they laugh at us for being so poor.

whoops friendly fire hehe
alright anons have a good night, see you tomorrow

>>82435914
>Every other country is at least twice as rich as us

>>82435774
which end do you plan to start at?

>>82435746
>I also think immigrants are being unfairly pegged as the cause of a lot of issues that have little to no connection to. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Maybe to some extent but
1. Immigrants are basically perfect scabs because even if they are being underpaid it's still better than their home country, and they can send money home.
2. The quality of work obviously is less when H1B1's are hired, because again they just want to send money back and don't really give a shit about their work
3. It's perfectly reasonable that people do not want massive demographic changes. Of course the people of a nation do not want that nations composition to be completely changed, especially if it's like the cases in Europe where most muslim immigrants have not assimilated at all and have a completely foreign culture. People want to protect their heritage, there's nothing wrong with that.
If you want to help the 3rd world, end the imperialist wars of America and France, don't import their people here.

>>82435933
I'm gonna work my way left to right so the righties think I'm based before the horror washes over them when I shoot John McCain in the dome

>>82435949
>he's going to dig up john mccain to posthumously execute him
uhhh based???

>>82435953
Potatoes are perfectly fine when re-planted.

>>82435949
i don't even understand what you said but holy fuck anon based anon

>>82435959
kek

>>82435912
Banks are all globohomo, they're on the pro-immigration side. Only difference is they understand the economic angle while bleeding heart leftoids bury their head in the sand to pretend that importing millions of people has absolutely zero effect on the labor and housing markets.

>>82435912
There agenda is to reduce pay so that a recession doesn't result in more unemployment. Janet Yellen wrote a whole memo on it. Also, again, it's more than just supply and demand, there's a major reduction in bargaining power from immigration. All this for what? Slightly higher GDP? Fuck off. My nation is worth more than your 401k.

because tribalism is real even in class society
it's called in-group preference
and they'll cherry pick their nuclear family instead of who's best for a job on merit

>>82435968
My 401k is more important to me than you and your entire family. I would vote to enslave you all if it made my 401k go up an extra half a percent over the next 40 years.

>>82435854
Immigrants are a net negative. Billionaires are a parasitic class, as is most of the owner class. Both these things are true. Anyone who wants to destroy their nation for the sake of GDP, and anyone who bootlicks billionaires, is the same in my mind. Both can fuck off and die.

>>82435949
Anon... John McCain is...

Well, DARPA borged him out into a literal Terminator, complete with with several nano-composite armor layers equaling STANAG 4569 level 6 vehicle protection. Are you sure you're ready to take him on?

>>82435995
>Immigrants are a net negative
net positive

>>82435984
And finally the jew admits the real reason he defends immigration

>>82436006
I'm only jewish in spirit, otherwise I'm all north germanic

>>82436002
I know a cheat code; if you bang his wife's old saggy snatch in front of him he goes into a permanent shutdown state.

>>82435551 (OP)
It won't. Republicans are just racist. Everyone already knows this

401k Niggers are invested in a dying future
we use to have a nation before the federal reserve act that destroyed sovereignty

that was moment people with power elected the US as a Empire instead of a Nation
and Empires only comprehend Power, doomed to fail

>>82436005
Yes, let's destroy all culture, all sense of the collective that is a nation, let's reduce all human relations to owner and owned, let's drive down wages, let's import people who believe in neither free will not human rights, let's virtue signal about Le evil billionaires while doing exactly what they want and while voting in shitlib "centrist" ghouls who call themselves leftists because they support eunuchs. Fuck you. You'll probably vote for Gavin Newsom in 2028 when the democratic party tries to force him on their constituency. I cannot express my hatred for you lemmings.

>>82436026
why do you think you have any right to be in a white country?

>>82436035
That's a lot of words I'm not going to read

>>82435551 (OP)
immigrants come here because their society is in ruins from ultra-competitive/clanwar hyper capitalism, where zero social safety nets for the betterment of their fellow countrymen (they hate and see as competing to make them poor) exists. corruption and fraud is too rampant in their government to even get charitable policy drafted for it to be exploited. ive worked with these immigrants before, including their 2nd gen children, and the idea of the betterment of your fellow man outside of your close family/clan with no bribe/transactional exchange is met with amusement.

no, i dont want a culture of backstabbing to be prevalent in my country. its bad enough tinyhat tribe money counters are doing it. the poors from the movie parasite is a comical but near accurate representation of your modern brown replacing honest and trustworthy host nation citizens for their own bloods benefit.

>>82436005
no I said negative, dumbass

>>82436005
They're a net positive if you're an (((executive))), (((shareholder))) or (((business owner))). Richfags are the only citizens who economically benefit from immigration. If you actually work for a living you'd be much better off with little to no immigration.

Barbarians moving to Rome didn't want to ruin things. They just wanted to move away from shit holes and take advantage of a higher quality of life in Roman cities. And then they carried along the traditions from their home country as you expect.

So what happens when we let Barbarians control Rome as Barbarians, instead of telling them in Rome do as the Romans do?

>>82436071
Yeah it was a type though, right?
>>82436081
I want open borders and a taco truck on every corner. Immigration helps with economic growth anyway and a rising tide lifts all ships.

>>82436100
>type
funny that I typoed typo
>>82436089
Rome was not a modern country lmao

>>82436059
>Libtard can't read
>>82436035
Can you make a tiktok out of that please? Our retarded friend is having a little trouble understanding.

>>82435793
>Then why do those countries suck ass?
Governments.
In the country I came from, rich people are openly allowed to buy elections. It was prosperous back in the day but its oligarchs have run it into the ground, and I couldn't fix it, so I moved somewhere else.

>>82436118
>Governments.
yes and brown "pipo" do not understand how to create proper governments, so allowing you to influence OUR government is a deathknell

>>82436118
Nice scapegoat.

>>82436089
Rome is just an endless accretion of barbarian after barbarian though? Even their founding myth is about how a bunch of outcast Latins showed up in Romulus' town and then raped the women of a different people, the Sabines
Roman collapse happened because after Adrianople they were too weak to force barbarians to assimilate and let them form states within the state, and because emperors were more worried about Roman usurpers (who would kill them and their families) than barbarians (who would set up their own kingdoms in distant provinces) and dealt with threats accordingly

>>82436113
>Libtard can't read
It was just rambling schizo shit and I gave up. Try making better posts?

If brownoids weren't so insanely tribal, they would be able to immigrate here and nobody would care too much. However, they do not integrate, they do not assimilate and they don't even produce any great economic benefit

which is why everyone is realizing immigration is a huge failure.

>>82436140
>weren't so insanely tribal
Are you talking about brownoids or you weirdo racists?

>>82436118
the anglo legal system is a unique product of our people, no other people could create it even if they were miserable and wanted something better, they cannot conceive of it. everyone gets the kind of government they deserve

Liberia has an almost exact carbon copy of the U.S. constitution but it does nothing for them because its principles are not innate to those people

>>82436111
The arrogance that if something is new it is right. The Titanic had the most recent technology of its day and sunk, as did that submarine with billionaires that was checking out the titanic.
It seems like California fails to manage their natural environment and forest fires end up being a consequence of that, to which the progressives blame the abstract everywhere but nowhere climate change. California fails at integration, and blamed the ethereal and nowhere racism. California fails at making a business environment, so you end up with taxes heavily making up the price of filling up in California, and progressives react to small businesses going bankrupt as it no longer makes economic sense for them to drive out to jobs that would keep them afloat, well that's the fault of the abstract everywhere and nowhere Capitalism. These are all meant to explain away things not defend how they handled things.

>>82436127
When brown countries get a government that doesn't suck, whites overthrow it because they want cheap labor and natural resources instead of a developing world that actually develops
(Though to be fair, this is also true of a fair number of dysfunctional governments which nonetheless place roadblocks in the way of western exploitation)

>>82436146
>brownoid can't read
not helping your case here, paco

>>82436150
you're retarded and coping for the massive brownoid failures. maybe follow mexicos example and elect a jew bitch or something idk

>>82436149
What is it with you people and your nonsensical schizo rants? You're worse than succs lmao.

>>82436100
The entirety of that growth goes to richfags and the immigrants themselves while the average person just gets fucked with a worse labor market and a more expensive housing market. Also a lot of that economic growth from immigration is just a self-contained circle within immigrant communities.

If Pablo or Sanjay or Ahmed opens a business then only hires his family or other immigrants from his country while sending most of the money he earns back home...what exactly are the economic benefits for the rest of us? They might hire a plumber or an electrician once a year? Big fucking deal. (((Banks))) still push for it because more immigration means more debt blank slates and thus more loans they can issue to make number go up. There's your "growth." Imaginary numbers on a screen amounting to Jewish voodoo, nothing beneficial at all to anyone posting here.

>>82436158
>not helping your case here, paco
Wow you misread my post really badly, are you inbred?

>>82436170
nonsensical schizo post.

>>82436118
thats literally every western/white nation right now, but the only difference is the slowly diminishing middle-class still holds some generational wealth/assets from the pre-overseas manufacturing boom (NAFTA), and elites are trying to wipe them out through anti-white/diversity mandates and H1Bs. youre contributing to creating the same problem you want to evade.

>>82436131
It was a political crisis combined with a failure to assimilate combined with a financial crisis caused by kicking a can continually down the road (every new kingdom shrunk Roman influence and income)
I think the ultimate irony is the evidence that blacks and Latinos are assimilating id how many voted for Trump. Kanye West Trump Voters

>>82436134
Try having an IQ of over 60.

>>82436179
>Try having an IQ of over 60.
she's brown, that's literally impossible.

>>82436173
Doesn't work when my post is like 10 words lol
>>82436169
>doesn't know the difference between labor substitutes and complements
NGMI!

>>82436187
of course it does, schizotard

>>82436147
the anglo legal system is not nearly as much of a boon as its acolytes imagine; indeed, judicial abuse of power was a major factor in the destruction of my former country's democracy and the oligarchization of its political system, and I understand that parliamentary supremacy has saddled England itself with an Orwellian surveillance state and zero civil liberties
Liberia's constitution is as real as its election results, its state was not a carbon copy of the US for most of its history but a one-party dictatorship (then a military dictatorship, then a brutal civil war, and maybe its finally getting back on its feet now)

>>82436179
I scored a perfect 100 on my IQ test actually
>>82436186
She's a he and unfortunately I'm a disgusting whitey

>>82436186
>omg wat i cnat undeestand u schizo !!
bitch is braindead

>>82436196
it's true you are braindead, schizo

>>82436175
anon, I never said I migrated *to* a western/white country

>>82436194
>The "white" person acts like a retarded brown woman
WEWLAD, are you perhaps a male feminist as well

>>82436190
lol I know you are but what am I?
>>82436196
Ooh boy you mad huh?

anyways, the future will clearly be a return to normal countries inhabited by White people and browns in their own countries.

>>82436199
>>82436203
Uh ohhh the retard couldn't handle getting btfo on every single retarded point they made, now they're resulting to insults.
READY THE HARPOON LADS!

ITT: libtards

Mexicans plz go

>>82436210
You have a very interesting way of interpreting reality

>>82436201
keep it that way then fix your country by sending every beneficiary of your caste/padrino system to gulags

>>82436214
And you have a very interesting way of denying it.

>>82436234
I don't even know what we're talking about at this point dumbass

brown "person" spergs out when every single one of his arguments is easily shot down by random r9k posters??

many such cases.

they are NOT sending their best!!

>>82436240
You started out not knowing what you were talking about

>>82436247
I'm talking about immigrants being good. I'm talking about complementary goods vs substitute goods. I'm talking about economic growth. What are YOU talking about?
>>82436245
I white

>>82436256
>I white
lol u brown

>>82436256
I'm talking about how much of a brainwashed faggot you are. Wasn't that clear from the beginning?

>>82436262
wish I was brown they get pussy

>>82436282
you are a brown incel freak

>>82436280
US had fully open borders until 1882, I just want to retvrn to the past

>>82436295
I'm a white freak who wants more interracial marriages

>>82436302
ur a brown freak

>>82436304
Uhm you're a brown freak sweatie

>>82436299
and the population was like 95% white and a few indians and spicazoids

>>82436322
Pretty sure there were a lot of blacks my dude

>>82436233
nigga if I could gulag the Thiels and Bezoses of the world I'd do it in a heartbeat, I fucking wish I had that kind of power
but in the real world, I'm just trying to make the best life for myself I can and it's become clear that it's just not realistic to think I could do that within in the United States

>>82436327
nobody cares about them + they weren't immigrants now were they, retardo fagit?

>>82436334
This but Fauci and all the experts at the World Health Organization who lied to us

>>82436339
>importing brownoids now
>nooo not immigrants
>importing brownoids then
>these aren't immigrants and therefore it is fine
hmmm

>>82436355
yo whiteBOI why u callin us proud niggas "brownoids"

SAY SORRY

>>82436362
I once touched a black man's afro it was very interesting but he scolded me for doing it

>immigration thread
>descends into calling people brown, jewish, and commies
race war is truly the only future of mankind

>>82436369
you a racist ass freak, boi

>>82435551 (OP)
>I fail to see how removing them will magically solve any societal/economic issues
Didn't wages almost instantly shot up when trump started his border crackdown? I think the way pubs are going about it is retarded and essentially garuntees the next lib president will just tear it all down and make things even worse than before the crackdowns, but having millions of virtual slaves imported specifically to undercut natives definitely seems pretty transparently evil.

>>82435657
This is an old bait image, but it's hilarious is that the nigger will still get the construction worker's cookie, while the old kike retains all his ill-gotten cookies even though everyone is aware he's an evil kike who has done nothing to earn cookies.
The rich will never not be rich and powerful. No matter how much people kick and scream.

>>82436376
I love your African hair and I wish to pet you once more.

>>82436384
trump suspended new h1bs in 2020-2021 and it created the hottest tech market of all time, it's unreal people are against it

>>82436403
imma turn yo pink ass into a white sissy if yo don't start behavin, boi

>>82436397
they've been expropriated before and we can do it again

the immigrants themselves are behaving logically, but we should too - every one that comes here is making our country more and more like theirs and less like our own. The reason shitholes are shitholes is because of the people who live there, barring extreme circumstances like communist dictatorships/etc that no longer exist. Taking in a few of the best and brightest is okay, if you ignore the fact that their genes are still going to drag down the average when they reproduce, but still a net negative because taking those few geniuses from their home country permanently stunts the development of that country and will mean that it stays a shithole even longer.

they expedited the soviets in mass scale
so why not immigrants?

Because we don't have the willpower nor manpower
30 million deportations is a drop in the bucket
the larger issue is still Constitutional sovereignty and women's right lol
but institutions are just too incompetent to take flak, they revel in crony socialism which is what our economic system is but the masses delude it's still capitalist lol

>>82435551 (OP)
Because even 'the good ones' undercut the Whites, depress wages, and breed like rabbits to shit up the country. Fuck off back. Death to globalists.

>>82435579
>implying people treat them differently
kek funniest part is when everyone treats you like an immigrant because youre brown

>>82436118
It's funny people will say it's your fault your government sucks but will blame the jews for why their government sucks.

>>82436059
You're gonna get lynched in a few years

>>82436384
Wouldn't it be better to advocate for workers rights, preventing Jews from "blessing" people with slave wages in the first place? Sounds a lot better than deporting goyim.