Thread 82443084

The title is sort of misleading, maybe she wouldn't date someone with down syndrome or a severe genetic disorder, and maybe she won't date a guy who asks her in the first day of knowing her. But ya know when femcels mention that all they want for their bf is for him to be maybe taller than 167 cm, not be fat or bald, yet seemingly they keep posting about being a femcel when a huge margin of men make up this demographic? So I want to know if there are actually femcels who exists that are like this, and if anon has ever had an encounter/experience with them

Who cares man, focus on what you want to date.

>>82443084 (OP)
I'm a femcel who flirts with anyone and everyone, a hispanic incel in a vaguely 4chan-related discord server admitted I would be a easy lay, but he didn't end up fucking me because he rather find someone he actually lives not a femcel he found online

>>82443097
I don't want to date anyone, I like to study femcels, they are so interesting
>>82443111
Uh huh, who are you? Are you popular

>>82443137
I'm not popular at all

I don't really care about da hispanic incel who rejected me since I have a serious boyfriend now who sees me in person every month or other month

but yeah b4 my serious boyfriend I would fuck anyone who flirted with me online

>>82443084 (OP)
I knew a femcel irl that couldn't get even close to men due to trauma, and due to how severe it is I think she likely shut herself off completely, or worse.

They do exist, but the ones in this board that you see interacting are mostly fakecels, same goes for men. The ones that truly fit the bill are rarely the ones interacting.

Both incel and femcel mean jackshit here.

>>82443153
uwu flirts with u

>>82443111
nice digits
why do you flirt with everyone then, what brings you to do that?

>>82443153
Are you the chickn?
>>82443172
So real femcels and incels aren't the ones posting this on the board about it, it is mainly posers?

>>82443172
the ones with trauma either hate men or want nothing to do with them, that doesnt mean they are involuntary nigger

>>82443235
Ya, that's true
I don't like to include people with trauma or mental illnesses as femcels because it's voluntary, there is help able to get
Maybe I should have specified that in my original post, there are mentally ill women who will date you within the first day and call themselves femcel, but I am talking more about women who aren't so crazy

>>82443220
>>82443196
Yeah I'm Chickn wtf I guess I am relevant

>why do you flirt with everyone

I'm a chronic online e-flirt, I have to flirt online and ask sexual questions out of habit

>>82443235
whores are cheap, crack whores are cheaper, ugly sluts are out there and men can go fish for them.

Your definition of 'involuntary' only fits your bill huh? Defeatism.

I managed to talk to said girl and I guarantee it was completely out of her control, you have choices, she didn't. Weak faggot.

>>82443268
Well you're an infamous e-celeb on the board, everyone knows you
So back then when you didn't have a serious boyfriend you were doing sexual favors for everyone who asked, or just for the hispanic incel?

>>82443220
There are femcels and incels here for sure, but to fit the bill of 'involuntary' you already have to be CRIPPLED by something, and that something usually is a sort of social aspect, wouldn't you agree?
By this alone, it cuts off the majority of females, and a nice chunk of males from here. Not just that, the other rest of males who interact aren't even virgins to begin with.

That's just my view on it though, I'm sure others would disagree. I've tried helping fakecels a lot and it's always the same story where they think it's impossible because they are weak, and the potential just lies there untouched. Frustrating.

>>82443285
I was flirting a lot with da hispanic incel and wanted to fly out to fuck him but he has a habit of ghosting me, plus I have a serious boyfriend so I can't fuck him now and like I said earlier, the hispanic incel doesn't love me and doesn't want to fuck someone he met on discord.

Femcels never want a neet bf so sad

>>82443362
Yeah, i can date my fat looksmatch who has a job, but I can't date a neet

>>82443381
I'm in shape, I'm alright looking, and I'm not a psychopath but not having a job is just a bridge too far

>>82443381
does that mean you're fat too?

>>82443536
yes that's true, I am fat too

>>82443572
how fat what is your height and weight

>>82443611
Short and fat, and yeah its that bad. no I will not say my exact weight, I'm paranoid af

>>82443353
how old was he when you started grooming him

>>82443645
I never groomed him, he was 19 the whole time we talked. he's probably 20 now however

>>82443627
I'm 5'10, 275, 29 yo. I work full time and own a car. I don't drink or do drugs. I don't have any mental disorders. Would you date me?

I've dated 2 girls from here and they both cheated on me and got asked out in person and left me. Are there any girls that would just stick with me

>>82443684
I would date you if I was single but I'm taken. when I'm single I'm really down bad. so take that as you will

>>82443666
Satan trips prove you are lying

>>82443084 (OP)
i used to date literally anything, i probably still would even if i really want someone good next time

all my (online because i dont wanna look irl) partners or potential partners were morbidly obese except one. only one was taller than me. all 3 boyfriends cheated on me and i still begged them to stay. the only non-obese boyfriend was this skinny arabic khhv "incel" who left me for a girl irl

im not even unattractive, i just dont send nudes, so thats my own fault they cheated. tho they definitely wouldve still cheated otherwise

>>82443735
I was talking about someone recently I met just last year the grooming drama is a whopping five years old.

>>82443755
>i just dont send nudes
Why not?

>>82444029
why would i? its gross and theres a chance theyd be leaked or shared around. itd be dumb to put myself at risk

>>82444050
I don't know, it just seems like a thing people do. Do you have a sex drive at all?

>>82444056
just because other people do it doesnt mean everyone should do it, even in relationships its a huge unnecessary risk

id say i have a high libido

>>82444109
You're a very spiny person, I'm not saying to do it, I'm just asking why. You don't need to be defensive.
Do you plan for your internet relationship to become IRL ones at some point, or do you just want them to stay internet forever?

>>82443755
>i just dont send nudes
Yeah, it makes sense why the men cheated on you, if they wanted asexual partner they would have just gotten a friend instead
But I guess you fall under the category I was searching for, so I would like to know why you dated basically everything

>>82444131
well i dont have anyone currently but id like to meet up and do things eventually, not just e-date forever

>>82444143
i told them that was how its going to be before i even started dating them, so they knew what they were getting into

i was desperate for someone to love and show care for. all i want in life is to love someone. even if that person doesnt particularly deserve it or never loves me back. so im a lonely retard, basically

>>82444205
>all i want in life is to love someone. even if that person doesnt particularly deserve it or never loves me back
NTA but you can love me. I probably won't love you back but I can pretend. I won't cheat on you or demand nudes, but I'm a strange person and you'll have to accept that.

>>82443084 (OP)
>taller than 167 cm
wow rude, I'm 5'5"

>>82444849
pretending hurts more than actually being disinterested so id rather you be honest

why would you even wanna put yourself in that situation, wouldnt you prefer someone you can actually love?

>>82445561
Being honest is easier for me anyway. I'm not able to love as far as I know. With time and proximity I can become comfortable with a person. That's the best I'm able to do and I doubt many people would consider that to be good enough.

>>82445585
if youre not able to love, why do you want a relationship? do you still want physical intimacy? i dont really understand at all

>>82445602
I'm still human and desire companionship. It's hard to explain and I don't really understand it myself. Even if I can't love someone, I can still appreciate them or desire to be around them. Physical intimacy is something I'd want, I'd like to have someone I'm comfortable enough with to permit them to touch me.

>>82445621
why not just have really close friends instead of a relationship, then? you can still do things like hug or hold hands with close friends

>>82445634
I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. I strongly associate touch with sex for some reason so I really can't do that with friends. I've never had much interest in having friends anyway. I want a romantic relationship, with flirting and all of that. It's just the love part that I don't think I can really do.

Does this girl look like a femcel or could she find a boyfriend (if only with extreme difficulty)?

>>82445654
thats kinda oddly depressing, anon. i seriously cannot imagine what thatd be like. and itd be pretty saddening for someone to know theyll never be loved back

id only be able to handle it cause im used to it and have never experienced mutual love but that doesnt make it any less depressing

>>82445656
she could find one easily, shes like a 5-6/10

>>82445687
>thats kinda oddly depressing, anon
It is, but I'm used to it. My brain doesn't quite work right. It makes it very difficult to get into a relationship though.
Do you think there's a reason you have trouble with relationships? I'm not blaming you for it, but is it mental or just picking the wrong people or what?

>>82445710
this probably sounds stupid but do you think theres a reason for the way that you are? do you think theres a way to fix it?

its totally my own fault, i give everyone a chance even if theyre noticeably awful. because im so lonely and desperate to just have someone forever. id probably go as far as paying someone to stay with me cause im that pathetic

>>82445742
I was neglected as a baby and it made my brain develop wrong. I don't know if it's fixable. Maybe I'll meet a nice girl and she'll hug me enough that I'll just melt, but I don't think life works out that well lmao. As far as I know it's incurable.

Do you only meet people online? I know there are a lot of awful people out there but it seems so weird that all your bfs were so bad. And can I ask how old you are?

>>82445782
have you tried any sorta therapy or anything? idk if it could help, but maybe itd help a little. i hope you can find a girl who'll make you fall for her tho, wouldnt that be nice

have you ever been in a relationship before?

yeah i only meet people online, im pretty terrified of sex and intimacy irl, so i wanna know someone first before actually doing anything. not that ive ever met with anyone cause it never lasts. at this point im just assuming im incapable of being loved by anyone and that if i ever have a partner i can get far enough to live with, im just meant to be some provider doormat for the guy to use me

im 20 this year. so "young" and already completely hopeless

>>82445852
I've been in therapy a few times but it really only worked for the depression. I've tried meds and stuff too, but they don't help. Most of my issues have gotten better with time, but not the inability to love.
I have been in relationships before, all online though. They usually end when the girl starts wanting me to be a different person. I'm usually fine with things just going on forever, I don't need a lot or ask for a lot.
Sex does seem somewhat terrifying. Being that close to someone physically and mentally is, I don't know, I've never had that so it's just alien to me. Would you be happy as a provider doormat? It doesn't seem fulfilling.
You are young, I'm a decade and change older than you. I don't think you're hopeless even if you feel that way. Most people suck and you've just met a lot of bad ones. Unless there's something I missing you seem fine and pleasant enough. Worse people than you find love, I don't see why you won't be able to at some point.

>>82443755
>just dont send nudes
RARE

But good on you, anon. Almost impossible to find people with principles and a healthy sense of online security any more.

>>82445656
Boyfriend easily looks like a girl who goes clubbing

>>82445889
at least it helped one thing even if it didnt help that issue. no idea how it would be possible to get help for something like that tho. its a very peculiar issue

no ones gonna be truly happy being a doormat provider to someone unless they either
>have a fetish for it
>actually get something in return (i.e. housewife or househusband dynamics)
i wouldnt be fulfilled but thats just gonna be my life either way. alone or not.
i appreciate hearing that tho. idk. im pretty pessimistic and just super depressed so i always think this way. that ill never have anything good in my life, i was meant to be alone, etc. its probably offputting to every genuinely well-intentioned person out there

>>82445902
thanks. im not the smartest when it comes to online security tho, im just not stupid enough to put my own body at risk, i guess

>>82446237
It's peculiar and there's not much research into it. I'm just used to it at this point and I'm mostly just hoping to find someone that accepts it. Have you tried therapy or meds?
Sometimes being alone isn't the worst option. I don't know, being in a bad relationship seems worse than just being alone to me anyway. I actually really want to be a househusband but that's not a very common thing for women to want to support.
You can have good things in your life. It's hard a lot of the time but it won't always be like that. I used to be very depressed too and thought like that a lot. I remember as a child wanting to die very badly, but all of that kind of went away eventually. I think it's only going to be offputting if you're always complaining and not trying to better yourself.
What do you do when you're not posting about being a femcel?

>>82446237
>not stupid enough to put my own body at risk, i guess
Hey, it's better than a lot of people out there. Of course I'm paranoid enough that I don't post my face. Like, ever, on anything.

>>82444205
>>82443755
I was pretty much in the same boat as you with avoiding irl and dating online, same issue with cheaters and people just leaving when they got bored. Nothing wrong with not wanting to be sending nudes, you probably settled on dickheads and assumed their less desirable physical characteristics would make them stick to you. Made a similar mistake myself very recently too, this girl had really bad teeth, like full on hillbilly shit going on, but I figured I could've helped her out with an insurance plan through my job to get her teeth fixed since she seemed to be really self conscious about it. Anyway she immediately ghosted me after meeting some guy at her new job (part time convenience store shit w/ no benefits), she didn't even end up dating the guy, he wasn't into her iirc, but she was writing shit fantasizing about him on her twitter before I unadded her on shit. To be fair we weren't in a relationship, mostly just flirting and plans, long calls etc. I had the idea of waiting on dating until we met in person. Kind of similar to your thing with nudes. Anyway I've wasted years in the same boat as you, if it wasn't for my irl contact only being in a shitty warehouse night shift with terrible people I would have attempted the irl shit by now. You should probably work up the courage to do that before you hit 30 with little to no genuine dating experience and the lack of milestones passed start to eat you up inside.

>>82447338
And while my recent example wasn't even dating, I think it's more representative of me going back into my shell further as I get older. Not even taking the step of officializing something online anymore out of caution or who knows. Easier identifying my issues as I write them out here. The one time I ever had an irl dating experience ended pretty terribly, but it only ever began because of a big risk I took driving 90 miles out of my town going somewhere I had never been when I was younger. Had the girl not been insane that would have been a reward so I guess the tl;dr of what I've experienced is you need to do something new, risky, to find what you're looking for. Talking to guys irl and having the rng to pick a good one is probably the most surefire route to fulfillment in your position.