Thread 82443422

Why do men say things like picrel? It's genuinely so easy to find a girl into normal/vanilla sex..

>>82443422 (OP)
I wish women loved to be serenaded.

>>82443422 (OP)
Because they feel irrational fear. Same reason people are afraid of water or spiders

>>82443422 (OP)
Women hate it when men are all loving and tell them how much they mean to them and how they want to be together forever. Ick generator for women.

>>82443422 (OP)
It starts with being a nervous boy and turns into being a cowardly manchild. Spending all his time in plato's goon cave, his only perception of woman is gay pickup artist grifters and degenerate internet pornography. From here, he develops a wildly inaccurate view of women which he confuses with reality. Truth be told, there are lots of problems with women however the OP pic is very obviously a pornbrained loser who doesn't know anything about life and thinks he is enlightened. None of the problems he describes are actual problems with women, but with his gay masturbation BDSM degen pereception of women he fell for in his goon cave. Chances of trooning out? 100%

>>82443422 (OP)
>It's genuinely so easy to find a girl into normal/vanilla sex..
Back in the millenial Internet era? Sure, and millenial men themselves never gave that to their women because of feminism (justified).
Today? Us Zoomers barely feel anything when either boyfriend or girlfriend in a relationship is all lovey dovey. Mostly because we think its fake and gay.

>>82443459
We do, it's just that a lot of these men have dated mentally ill or disturbed women and then turn around to blame it on others because they are still hurting. Like, yeah, you dated or yearned for a girl that's severely mentally ill most likely because she was abused during her childhood and or had no positive / regular male relationships and experiences, who's already used to being treated like shit and finds comfort in her sadness and has not yet gotten professional help, yet you're absolutely shocked that said woman acts mentally ill and breaks your heart??

>>82443552
Fool me once and all that. But I completely agree femchud, most men just mustve gotten unlucky.

>>82443552
>not all women
Women will always prefer at least potentially abusive men. It's hard wired into their DNA. Look at any female written novel for the truth.

>>82443552
>Like, yeah, you dated or yearned for a girl that's severely mentally ill most likely because she was abused during her childhood and or had no positive / regular male relationships and experiences, who's already used to being treated like shit and finds comfort in her sadness and has not yet gotten professional help, yet you're absolutely shocked that said woman acts mentally ill and breaks your heart??

Any tips when currently dating a girl who is like that?

>>82443479
>>82443544
It's quite sad because there are people who genuinely believe this and that it applies to every woman on planet earth.
>>82443514
>Ick generator for women
Who is going around and spreading these lies??
>>82443548
Anon it's okay to admit you're a millennial trying to shill- or whatever- your generation without pretending to be a zoomer

>>82443580
Glad we can agree on something anon
>>82443599
>Look at any female written novel for the truth
>Female written novels
>And then it's just "Booktok" weird kink novels
Anon. . .
>>82443600
You can try encouraging her to go therapy and working out past trauma if she's willing to. If not, you can't really force her, it's her choice.

>>82443601
>Who is going around and spreading these lies??
Every man who ever acted like this with a man only to get dumped and ghosted.

>>82443552
That's the only type of woman that has any use for low value males

>>82443712
you never acted like this with a woman and you were never ghosted by a woman for acting like this
you are scared of women

>>82443601
yes it's sad, it's a very low form of existence to believe the kind of retarded bullshit in OP's post
not even for the sake of women, but for the sake of the man
it reflects a very immature lame form of existence, a lack of growth
I do not hate men like this, I used to be one, and I'm not a simp or anything but I realize the OP post is pure delusion out of cowardice

>>82443753
Hey less competition aint I right buddy. Enjoy it.

>>82443753
I did happend to me twice now I am afraid of women because I am simply like this where I show my feelings and how much I like them. But this will only give them the ick and I will be ghosted again if I do. No idea why yoi try to deny my own experiences as wrong.

>Grifters itt
Naw. I've had plenty of female friends, crushes, I've approached random women. I've wotked with them and grew up around them. I can attest with certanty.
Women. Do. Not. Want. Honesty.
Every young boy, by age 9 will figure it out that boys and girls are vastly different.
You have to put filters on top of filters while talking to women.

1-The type of jokes you make with boys is different with the ones you make with them. I made a joke about a girl being wet (due to the rain) and she got weirded out
2-our interests are completely different. I was like 5 and I was showing girls crumpled pieces of paper and showing them it was a 'cool robot' or 'a dinossaur' they were bored to tears, while boys flocked to see it.
3- our honesty is sewed. I tried to be direct with a woman, just approach them and say "sorry to bother, you, but I saw you at a distance and I tought you were cute, can I get your number?" And she made a face like I was about to rape her
4- our values are different. a guy here on r9k said he was a 37 virgin and was about to go on a date. Our advice was to jut lie. Because women will be put off by that.
So, yes. Never trust them, never be honest, never reveal yourself.
If op is a real woman, I'm sure you'd be attracted to a sensible Robbert Pattinson.
I bet that's what you imagine

>>82443600
Abuse her like she wants, consider it serving her and her needs, she only knows one thing and it makes her nostalgic, almost happy, so better to just give it to her.
Otherwise you're going to get your heart ripped out of your fucking chest when she decides to up and move to a different state in a single day, not tell anyone, and fuck another guy multiple times a day for a month straight, only to just show up again and tell you that it's over and that she never felt anything for you.

>>82443422 (OP)
It's not about vanilla sex you dumb cunt

>>82443552
>gotten professional help,
professional help is a business, guess what happens when people get cured? The industry crashes

>>82443479
>>82443544
>>82443552
>>82443601
>>82443653
>STOP NOTICING REALITY AND POINTING THINGS OUT

And here we go, the crux of gynocentrism. Back to step one because any NOOTICING gets met with hysterics and screeching.

Almost feels very methodical, innit? Weird.

>>82444070
so based of of this information what should we conclude and furthermore how can we use this information to get a girlfriend and lastly with the information that you supply can you provide evidence that it has worked before?

>>82445538
You aren't noticing reality, you are too scared to confront reality and create elaborate fantasies in your gooncave about what women are like. You are still bluepilled, just porn-addled retard style instead of simp style.

>>82445597
A lot of those arbitrary labels are redundant and diverting. Anyways, it never mattered how many personal experiences people can bring up, you have an illusion of "womanhood" that you want to "defend" in your tranced out mind. So all valid anecdotes are just going to be "moot" because you've lobotomized reason in favor of gynocentric psychosis. Romantic interpersonal data is one of the things that are still blurry and not fully studied and you've taken that as an opportunity to hide behind its enigmatic sociology. Gynocentrism is just willful ignorance at the end of the day.

And fantasies are created from a yearning of something "not" in reality, about what the individual truly YEARNS for. Cuckold projection is too fringe and specific in this case. And dishonest too.

>>82445574
The conclusion is that men and women are simply different creatures and men will always have to filter themselves if they want love.
>can you supply evidence?
Sure! Famous Drag queen Katya zamolodchikova and gay podcaster Kaleb Hearon both shared interesting stories about how Katya simply walked up to a person she was attracked to and got the number by being vulgar. Kaleb shared a story about being harassed by the TSA and despite being really mad, he still got the guy's number and said in the interview "sigh, ok! I'll suck your dick"
Do you think this level of honesty happens in straight relationships?
Every relationship it's about dancing around what women want until you get them.

>>82443653
>>Female written novels
>>And then it's just "Booktok" weird kink novels
Nobody accused women of being talented

>>82445680
>gay
and your telling me about straight relations?
repent now

>>82443422 (OP)
>easy to find a girl into normal/vanilla sex
You dumb fucking bitch, that is not even the main point that guy was trying to make. Its not just about the sex, he was talking about being yourself and not having to worry about the woman being bored or icked or her pussy dried up by you just being a normal person.

>>82443653
So ?
The booktok argument still tells something
I know women take a wicked pleasure in invalidating men's experiences, but I've been thought this. Most women don't want a men that's honest about his feelings, I got dumped for that, never again.

>>82443712
Refer to >>82443552
>>82443746
no not really
>>82443753
Sorry I didn't respond anon I fell asleep, but yeah, it's almost impossible to get through these people.

>>82444070
Every person is different, your bad experiences with women don't make up the others you're going to meet. Also.. I have no idea who Robert Pattinson is
>>82445341
It's not that hard to find a woman who likes to be treated well too either, so..
>>82445439
There will always be mentally ill people so that's not happening anytime soon.

>>82445691
You're literally looking on one side of something and then saying "Yep, that's it". There are genuinely amazing novels written by women
>>82445750
Refer to >>82446971
>>82445767
>The booktok argument still tells something
That some, keyword some, women like extreme kink novels? If you're on readertok you'd know that extreme kink booktok, like, they're their own separate thing.
>Most women don't want a men that's honest about his feelings, I got dumped for that, never again.
When anons say "honest with their feelings" do they just mean being rude or actually opening up and being honest?

Q: When does an anecdote become data?
A: When there exists a sizeable population of events.

facts occur when "my experience" becomes "our experiences", and statistics can start to be made when analyzing a sample population given trends in related data
if numerous men from many walks of life can all relate an experience or a credible tale of an experience by another with similarities of outcome but not of background, and the only shared characteristic is that they had all been dating women, then it can only be inferred that the one trait shared between them was the single deciding reason why the event happened

denial of the facts is either performative or with the most ignorant naivete that can be possessed by a person
if all these different women just happen to be mentally ill and thats why being a real person around them causes them to lose romantic interest and leave, then it must be concluded that all women are mentally ill, there are no other commonalities shared between such a wide and varied group

>>82443422 (OP)
>...for now
It always starts.
>I wanna be hit
>I wanna be choked
>I want to be tied up.
>I want a 3way.
>I want to be pissed on.
For gods sake you've got 3 holes, 7 erogenous zones, the most degenerate sex toys imaginable and an infinite ocean of porn to go with them, and you STILL NEED MORE
You're not happy until you can finish fucking and immediately go and goon to your own reflection while the tears and welts are fresh and visible

>>82443422 (OP)
Love is a lie. Truth is you don't know how someone feels about you unless you're sharing their mind body and soul, and chances are highly likely you are not.
AI, robots, women, all the same. It's just a lie you tell yourself to keep going and can't admit it is a lie. It's better to rip out that wiring and move on.

>>82447295
>then it must be concluded that all women are mentally ill
Anon.
>>82447367
Do some men just spend their whole life imagining things like this?

>>82447546
I've been married twice. Trust me.
Then they take pictures of the welts and use them to get a restraining order 3 years later when she decides she's done with you coz she met someone who makes 10% a year more than you
In all fairness that second bit only happened once.

>>82447575
Where are you going to meet these crazy people? The mental hospital? Genuine question btw

>>82447582
Seriously, the old fashioned way.
When I was a teenager I got accused of rape by my brothers friends sister
My first abusive partner I met on IRC
My 2nd was a chick I'd known for years

Women are just fucking insane, have no regard for men or our emotions whatsoever, are incapable of accountability, and the law always takes their word as gospel so when you try to get help you're cast to the wind
I can honestly name one (1) woman I've seen IRL who didn't treat her man like shit and didn't resent him just for being alive. Literally every other woman I've ever met just hates men because they're male.

>>82447582
You have autism. You can't comprehend a social norm.

>>82446971
>Every person is different, your bad experiences with women don't make up the others
>I'M NOT LIKE OTHER GIRLS!!
it's biology. Men are the chasers and women are chased. Unless you chase me and pay for my dinner, then yes you are just like every other women

>>82444070
>If op is a real woman, I'm sure you'd be attracted to a sensible Robbert Pattinson.
She'd get the ick from him too, can't be a real person around them no matter how good you look.