Thread 82464795

Thoughts on leftism?

I believe you're trying to defame this woman because you have women. I'll not trust your post

>>82464795 (OP)
thats just white women, they always celebrate if a white guy dies

>>82464795 (OP)
The famous leftist theorist, @1titanicfan

>>82464795 (OP)
"Leftist" is synonymous with "terrorist".

>>82465647
and which side of the political spectrum on the aggregate has more instances of political violence? rightoids so shut the fuck up retard

>>82465668
That isn't true, dumbass.

>>82464795 (OP)
>>82464834
>>82465668
liberalism is the most violent and genocidal ideology in human history. it should be legal to kill someone for expressing liberal opinions.

>>82465668
lol what world do you live in? you're actually so unhinged from reality that you probably can't even interact with actual people anymore, can you? just a totally mindfucked tranny who wakes up and begins spiraling immediately upon regaining consciousness that day until you're a deranged mess lying in bed to sleep again

>>82464795 (OP)
Leftism is the same as women. Pretend to be nice and accepting while being terrible

>>82464795 (OP)
I have a hard time getting on board with this. I'm not a conservative but he had a different opinion than you. That doesn't justify murder.

>>82464795 (OP)
On paper, leftists should be the good guys. All leftists want to do is overthrow oppressors and save the downtrodden. The problem is that they call everyone they don't like oppressors, and their solution to help the downtrodden is to give them nigh unlimited privileges and favors. In their attempts to end inequality, leftists have divided the people even more, and now hatred on both sides is starting to reach frightening levels.

I vote democrat out of necessity, but I fucking hate my cohorts. What a fucking shitty country.

>>82464795 (OP)
What is the thought process behind shooting kids and unimportant talk show hosts? Why not someone important?

>>82464795 (OP)
Many of them seem to (rightfully) think they are free to do whatever after years of Conservative censorship online in addition to the riots of the past 5 years (2020 being a major example) going unpunished. It is no different than a spoiled rich girl facing the consequences of her actions for the first time. The right either needs to actually start enforcing their mindsets or we need to be ready to become Brazil with Chinese surveillance by 2030.

>>82465668
What? Leftists are literally the most bloodthursty animals in the world and have always been terrorists.

>>82465736
Extremely naive post

They do not want to "overthrow oppressors," they are their bread and butter

This is like when Batman asked the Joker why do you wanna kill me

https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/81324324
You subhumans endlessly celebrated the suicide of a child because she tweeted like 6 months before a joke about white genocide. Moralfagging over this is transparently hollow.
Charlie Kirk is a soulless cog in GOP propaganda machine to destroy US hegemony solely to benefit the ultra-wealthy, and I'm happy he's dead.
>>82465763
If you think propagandists aren't important to the Republican party, you are completely fucking lost in politics lol. There are very few irreplaceable cogs in terms of conservative politician, however. Vance is incredibly uncharismatic and has consistently been an embarrassment but does his job of dickriding Trump well enough for Republicans to be a-okay in their goals.
>>82465777
Yes, the right is finally going to stamp down on gun control. I'd bet the shooter of Kirk was right-wing, like the Trump shooter.

>>82465705
Once you learn enough to realize that killing your political opponent because you can't debate them is the entire point of being liberal you might realize this isn't a battle of ideas, it's literally a battle of good vs evil at the most fundamental objective levels of the definition. They seek to destroy what they cannot control, they do not build, they parasitize. Can a society that is purely parasites ever survive on it's own? Who will create? The jews are similar in parasitism, they hope to create a slave race of whites mixed down with some dumber race so they can still have the half-whites run the world for them and maintain civilization since all they do is suck blood from functioning people.

I understand why they do it, it makes sense, it's just not good. They're inferior, they're good for nothing and they're trying to claw resources away from people that are better via brainwashing, lies, and murder. It's the only thing they can do, they cannot compete in an honest competition so they don't try to have an honest competition. Just remember to never try to reason with someone that clearly wants you dead for being better than them, they only understand violence.

>>82465675
Liberalism is a moderate right ideology

>>82465786
Why do you love dehumanizing people

>>82465793
only if you have a retarded definition of left and right. study the french revolution some more.

>>82465671
If the metric is lethal politically motivated violence in the U.S. over the past 25 years, far-right extremists account for the majority.

>>82465809
Every accusation is a confession.
The Republicans cut off <1% of our budget that was for aid that will result in the deaths of millions of innocent people (i.e. haha dead niggers lol who cares if they die, we need more money for billionaires!). They're 100% for unconditional support of Israel despite daily massacres and a starvation campaign (i.e. haha dead brown people lol who cares if they die).
If you're a propagandized voter, you probably don't know better, but the propagandists definitely know better. They sell their soul and any good aspects of America to become omega-millionaires.

>>82465786
>tranny forgets ze was celebrating Christian school shooting committed by a troon right before the bridge ack

>>82465736
>All leftists want to do is overthrow oppressors and save the downtrodden.
This is really due to ressentiment though, they are against nature which is why they turn into death cultists. There is some valid sentiment in being against certain hierarchies which place the dark triad individuals at top, but throwing out hierarchies completely is completely illogical. As long as there's differentiation, then there will be hierarchy. This is ultimately what they hate and it's why they worship the base and decrepit.

>>82465860
The order of those events are reversed in reality.

>>82465826
>my politics have been stagnant for 230 years
Did you fall out of a wormhole

>>82465779
"Are You Dumber Than An LLM?"
With Jeff Foxworthy

>>82465867
our current era resembles late 18th cnetury france much more than it does the 19th and 20th centuries. also it's ridiculous to suggest that liberalism has evolved significantly in 230 years or that marxism was an improvement in leftist thought given how dead it currently is.

>>82465787
This isn't even liberalism. Liberalism and leftism, democrat policies are all interchangeable but liberalism is more just allowing people to govern themselves and decide for themselves if they want to live a lifestyle that isn't going to church, being traditional, having a family, being straight laced. This has little to do with economic policy. This has everything to do with left wing social policies like abortion, lgbt queer issues, and gun control. What are they even debating? If a man can be a woman? They killed Charlie to make a point. The only point they made was "If you dare disagree with our worldview, we will murder you."
I am not even being ironic or insincere when I post this, but this is 4chan so I understand it will be taken as ragebait or trolling, it is unamerican. You should have free speech and not have to worry about being murdered for a couple of words and opinions that can change or that you have that aren't inciting violence or the harm of another person. Disagreeing with someone's views isn't hate speech if you explain why you don't agree with it or simply do not share the same point of view. You should have the right to speak your mind freely, you should have the right to think freely, without worrying about being murdered or being unable to provide for yourself and your family just because there was a difference in opinion. Again, i'm not a conservative. I am not a right winger. Ben shapiro is cringe. Conservatism and right wing online personalities can be tone deaf and overreact over the simplest of things they believe are destroying america. I'm not saying leftist media or personalities are any better. This took it to the next level and they assassinated him.
This won't end well, this is not what America should be or become.
I don't have tbe answers or tbe solutions, i'm a fucking anon on 4chan. I'm not a conservative but this was political assassination

>>82464795 (OP)
It's better than being a loser chud that got shot in the neck.

Rest in PISS, Charlie.

>>82465736
Extremely based and wisdom-laden post

>worker's rights, progressive tax rates, some kind of basic financial safety net (assuming it can be used by the people who actually need it and not just freeloading pieces of shit)
Decent
>troons, importing the low IQ third world hoards, feminism, abortion, destruction of tradition out of spite, nihilistic anti-theism, praise of the dysgenic and malformed, general jewry
Cringe.
I am a National Socialist unironically. If I lived in a nation with better racial hygiene and intolerance towards disease-spreading hyper-promiscuity (and yes, this includes heterosexuals, I'm not just talking about the fags here) I would be proudly in support of socialized healthcare.

>>82465905
>my beliefs have no place in anywhere in the world
We know. It's very common among loser men.

>>82465897
>it's ridiculous to suggest that liberalism has evolved significantly in 230 years or that marxism was an improvement in leftist thought given how dead it currently is.
Dumbest shit I've read all day, in the vast majority of countries liberalism is still a right-wing politic and pretty much everything about liberalism has changed exponentially since the Industrial Revolution.

>>82464795 (OP)
>"Why has he not been bailed out?" Kirk said Monday on his podcast of the man who allegedly beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul with a hammer last Friday. "By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out."
- Charlie Kirk, praising political violence

Picrel killed Charlie Kirk, the kikes are literally trying to keep it under wraps to drum up attention. Spread the word.

>>82465926
Yes 4chan, I will spread this unrelated minor's photo around >:)

>>82465926
>source: just trust me bro
please... please rope

>>82465838
Incorrect. But don't let facts get in the way.

>>82465937
Indeed, and so can you post a rebuttal to this? No fallacies, now. >>82465882

Bottom line since I know Republitards can't read

>>82465914
you only say that because you're ignorant of its writings and principles. both american liberalism and conservatism are forms of liberalism proper, true. marxists and socialists are politically irrelevant.

>>82465951
But the president told me antifa was coming to eat my cat

>>82465928
Me when I am not a knower

>>82465922
beating nancy pelosi's husband is based. shooting charlie kirk, a man who did nothing wrong, is good.

>>82465786
>because she tweeted
>she
Why bother with your grooming shtick when you already made that kid kill himself? No point entertaining it anymore so why bother?

>>82465967
>both american liberalism and conservatism are forms of liberalism proper, true.
Agreed. So, are you saying you consider conservatism to be left-leaning then?

>>82465985
>you're all insane demons, why are you dehumanizing our loyal MIGA patriot but not a child who by my own beliefs is just a victim of mental illness
Most ideologically coherent right-winger.

of course it's some retarded suicide shit he's vindictive over, yeah t-kun, that absolutely justifies a brutal jfk-tier assassination of a moderate, insane literal faggot

>>82465860
>>82465809
>>82465985
please understand, he's deathly afraid his boyfriend will ACK just like the bridge tranny if he has one too many bad days, he has a personal stake in this

>>82465992
no because that's not what leftist in its original meaning (from the french revolution) meant. the mountain (statists) sat on the left of the national convention and the girondins (liberals) sat on the right. leftism means statism and authoritarianism.

It doesn't matter. Right-wingers will never join us in reality. They prefer their mythos and lore.

>>82466033
You're cherry-picking a tiny piece of the assembly seating that wasn't even consistent during the actual French Revolution. 230 years ago. This is a retarded etymological fallacy to base your political understanding on. You're not living specifically between 1792-1793.

what I hate the most is the for a fact women wouldn't be fighting in a civil war directly. women are so comfortable posting stupid shit about violence while they know they won't suffer at all if SHTF. Men are soldiers in wars, women not so much. Fucking idiots. they better hope nothing happens else they'll be the first targets from robots for forcing this upon us.

>>82466076
nigga that is the undisputed origin of the term. this is not how you want to attack this.

>>82466032
Who said it's justified? I'm just happy it happened. He could've died in a car accident and it'd also be good, although less funny.
>but he's only a MIGA cultist
Yeah, they're still evil lol. The racist right is utterly irrelevant politically, of course, but the non-racist right is still horrendous.

>>82465671
>I reject reality and substitute my own!

You never had a chance

>>82466108
But it's not. Before the giordins the right of the assembly were supporters of the monarchy (authoritarianism) and the left of the assembly were supporters of the revolution (republicanism). You're just bluffing now because you don't know what you're talking about. Even if it were the origin of the term (which it's not), it would still be a retarded etymological fallacy that you're clinging to just so you can pretend that the world hasn't evolved past 1792.

>>82465786
>>82465856
>>82466010
>>82466109
All of these words are void. Everything you stand for is just an impulse of collectivist psychosis and intersectionalist slop. There is nothing to reason or deboonk anymore.

And stop pretending to be a weeb when you're obviously the type to seethe at Japan's idyllism. It's all just UN backed opinions with you.

The blm shit was just the tipping point when it came to 'radicalizing' normal people with a sense of self-preservation. How you've convinced yourself that you're not the enemy of a good life is beyond me.

>>82466219
>monarchy (authoritarianism)
what the fuck are you talking about, monarchy has always been insanely compatible with liberalism and louis implemented many liberalisng reforms.
>revolution (republicanism)
which has no relation at all to the liberalism of the time that supported constitutional monarchy, so you're agreeing with me.
>it would still be a retarded etymological fallacy that you're clinging to just so you can pretend that the world hasn't evolved past 1792.
if you believe that republicanism was leftism, which is your argument, then you must accept that liberalism, that opposed the republic and supported constitutional monarchy, was not on the left. i'm willing to argue within your definition if you have an issue with mine.
>you can pretend that the world hasn't evolved past 1792.
it fucking hasn't. if you look at what liberals were saying in 1792 and what they're saying now it's the exact same thing and they're referring to the exact same thinkers and principles that they did back then. they even supported faggotry back then lmao.

In the case of certain types of women and men, they have been instilled with a viral false "empathy" via internet addiction. oversocialized by an algorithm, they spout about "interconnectedness" but will bring no attention to the inherent pitfalls of this philosophy. they will genuinely hate the idea of an individual living outside of their perceived ideological-paradigm.

it is in their docile sensibilities that they do not (can not) think outside of the information they consume. Permanently barred from higher-thinking, they will largely distract themselves with pseudo-academic interests like intersectionality, western feminism, global altruism, etc...

but in an effort to progressively transcend "us vs them" mentality they end up favoring them over us. i want to call this "antichrist empathy" as it tends to favor ideas adjacent to inherent sin and political "redemption" via "allyship" but it eventually results in self-hate and communitarian syndrome.

this sort of interconnectedness has an insectoid flavor to it's unquestioned collectivism, no doubt irresistible to a despiritualized hylic with a lust for for "meaning". certain demographics with a tendency for conformism and lower-thinking will gladly pedestalize it. you will see them bring up "interconnectedness" a lot more when their nature is exposed. it is important to realize, they can not be dehumanized as they are barely the same type of human as everyone else.

compare this to the average joe who isn't oversocialized with social media programming. they have an abundance of empathy for their family, neighbors, friends and everything local but they think nothing of the "starving middle eastern children" yet they are more connected to life on a warm soul level. it's pure, honest and untouched by memetic neuroticisms of social media ideology. they are inherently more conscious and soulful than the biomasses that unapologetically eat up subverted "empathy"

>>82466257
No argument at all.
>Everything you stand for is just an impulse of
...a demented dying child rapist war criminal, is correct for MAGAts.

>>82466275
>so you're agreeing with me.
You're agreeing with me. You're saying that the right was compatible with liberalism and the left was anti-liberalism.
>then you must accept that liberalism, that opposed the republic and supported constitutional monarchy, was not on the left.
That's... exactly what I've been saying this whole time. Consider how this discussion started
>>82465793
>>82465826

>>82464795 (OP)
Love seeing the true nature of roasties, a non Chad was killed and they are ecstatic

>>82466097
Women will be open season for rape and murder when SHTF

Mental illness. I used to be a leftard but my views started changing during Covid.

>>82465675
wait till you find out leftism isnt the same as liberalism

>>82466309
i agreed with you already on that, here;
>>82465967
>both american liberalism and conservatism are forms of liberalism proper, true.

my point is based on refuting this;
>So, are you saying you consider conservatism to be left-leaning then?
which i have.
>leftism means statism and authoritarianism.
this is what i fucking said and what i'm arguing about, i'm arguing against the idea that liberalism has ever been on the left. you're the one who changed positions mid-argument
>>82466323
>leftism means statism and authoritarianism.
already said that here;
>>82466033

>>82466302
get to the part where you seethe at Japanese living or support third worlder violence as 'karma for racism'.

there is no argument needed when basic self preservation and a righteous desire for Idylism takes the forefront.

the illusions spouted by whores with socsci slop degrees will matter naught.

>>82466359
I haven't changed positions at all. I said that liberalism is a moderate right ideology, someone (maybe not you, because that would really make you seem retarded now that you're agreeing that liberalism is right-wing) said this:
>>82465826

>>82466398
in the modern day every position on the political spectrum is liberal. in 1792, liberalism supported aristocracy and monarchy against true statist leftism.
>You're saying that the right was compatible with liberalism and the left was anti-liberalism.
yes, in 1792.
>Liberalism is a moderate right ideology
currently, every political party in the west is liberal. in an objective sense, there is no right today because there is no left.

>>82466390
>Japan is racist
I don't care, at all, lol.
>I have no argument, and I'm proud
Room temperature IQ.

>>82466419
If your point is that the west is completely gripped by an all-encompassing right-wing ideology with no real leftist momentum, then I agree completely.

>>82464795 (OP)
You're too autistic and retarded to understand it

>>82466436
then your definition of right-wing is meaningless

>>82464795 (OP)
I'm sick of them. They need to get what they've been asking for.

>>82466470
You've agreed that liberalism is right-wing, which is the whole thing I said that started this argument. You've agreed that liberalism is the dominant ideology of the west. I don't know what hill you're trying to die on anymore. We're in agreement.

everyone wants to push this retarded left vs right war that is never happening instead of focusing on the people at the top. same as how they shut down Occupy Wall Street in 2008. stupid people on the right wing in america, stupid people on the left. both capitalists. the problem is runaway capitalism.

>>82466478
ok then what is the point in saying liberalism is right-wing if every single political movement in the west is liberal. are you saying every single political movement in the west is right-wing??? it's a useless term in the way you're using it.

also i love how the miga crowd gets their panties in a wad when the other side does the same shit they do. look no further than /pol/ or /gif/ for examples of that retard's base delighting in the suffering of transgender people. on a fucking daily basis. pure psychopaths.

>>82466505
Look at what the topic of the thread you are actively posting in is, niggerfaggot.

>>82466569
then why didn't you talk about actual leftism instead of going on about what you apparently think is a right-wing ideology?

>>82466314
>season for rape and murder when SHTF
have fun, anon. they would deserve it for pushing it too far

>>82466588
Look at what I was replying to, dumb-nigger. Jesus fucking Christ, are you retarded?

>>82466508
>suffering of transgender people. on a fucking daily basis. pure psychopaths.
no one is hunting transgenders down, they do it themselves. i'm not gonna lose sleep over it, just like i won't lose sleep over kirk get murked. just insane the left wants to head down this path when they will get fucked up if they continue this

>>82465668
>and which side of the political spectrum on the aggregate has more instances of political violence?
the left by far

>>82466631
Any source at all? besides the voices in your head, of course

>>82466634
History and the various recent, "mostly peaceful" riots.

>>82466641
Got it, just the voices.

>>82466643
No, facts. But you don't care about thse, do you.

>>82466615
only one getting fucked up is you if you want to go civil war
the north won before
the north shall win again if need be

Thoughts on rightoids?

pussy zionist boomer geriatric chemo patient (a lot) and some proud boys (25 proud boys) and some oath keepers (30 oath keepers) vs literally everyone else

who would win

>>82466603
>UHMMM IT'S THE TOPIC!!!
>UHMMM ACTUALLY IT'S WHAT I WAS REPLYING TO!!!
yep, you seem like a projecting dumbfuck to me

>>82466652
If anything the civil war at this rate is gonna be between the pro-Israel right and the anti-Israel right. And you already know which side will win that.

>>82466666
who got it i wonder? perhaps something good

>>82466667
Look, I'm sorry that you wasted your time acting retarded, but you already have agreed with me on every point I made, the debate is over. You gotta find someone else to argue with now.

>>82466681
he runs around the board feining retardation with everyone, if you look for him just quote his shit back to him and do not engage. hopefully he fucks off.

>>82466652
>only one getting fucked up is you if you want to go civil war
the left is the one pushing for it by heading down this path. the northern cities can't grow their own food. they don't have as many firearms to defend important locations. it's retarded. Feds are going to work overtime to stop this

>>82466701
in a real shtf civil war scenario it probably plays out something like this:

washington state nuclear command center
defected nuclear engineer will disable the permissive action links on at least one Minuteman III ICBM

WA state junta says recognize me or die.

"OK WA State Junta"

100% most likely scenario

>>82466714
so the same thing could happen in montana at Maelstrom and they have way more missiles

>>82465671
>>82465675
>>82465692
>>82465779
>>82466631

nice try feds. you know we call you "reactionaries" for a reason

>>82466730
all it takes is one
the reality is we would re-establish mad with: "you get your side i get mine and if you cross the red line i will nuke you"
it's not a matter of one, or three hundred.

>>82466681
lol you're genuinely too stupid to argue with
>you already have agreed with me on every point I made
which all have nothing to do with your original point that liberalism is a right-wing ideology. if you want to go down that road, then you can argue that this;
>only if you have a retarded definition of left and right.
was me agreeing with you. ok, dipshit i agree that if you use a retarded definition of left and right liberalism is a right-wing ideology. no idea why you kept sperging for an hour if you count THAT as me agreeing with you. yes, i agree that you are a retard lmao.
>>82466689
you're that idiot who copies exactly what i'm saying and passes it off as his own idea but gets it wrong lmao, dumbfuck
>>82466733
where are the causalties from biden's genocide on that graph?

>>82466736
one missile isn't enough to stop anything plus they wouldn't actually be able to guide them anywhere so you do actually need the actual material and to be able to disseminate it

>>82464795 (OP)
So far they're winning. Meanwhile you faggots wanna cry and larp like Nazis. The Nazis at least had the balls to fight back in the streets LMAO

>>82465675
1. liberalism isnt leftist its center 2. saying liberalism is the most violent and genocidal ideology in human history is very quickly countered by colonialism imperialism or just plain nazism. im assuming that was bait though

>>82466747
all that shit runs off radio or copper wire, it can be sent over the same locally, it's how the system is tested anyway. you are right, the DoD handles the targeting of where it lands, the nuke base just authorizes it, but the engineer knows how every bit of it works so he can nigger rig the nuke to just fire

>>82466748
>killing people is winning
Lmao leftard

Charlie turned into a fountain

>>82466742
Me:
>Liberalism is a right wing ideology
You:
>I agree
Me:
>Ok then
You:
>NO YOU DONT YOU IDORT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR POINT THAT LIBERALISM IS A RIGHT WING IDEOLOGY

>>82466759
setting all that shit up though would take about 13 hours plus the base's C&C uplink being disconnected, so yeah there would be firefighting

>>82466769
lol im glad someone else pointed out liberalism isnt leftist lol its literally right wing this guy only debates in bad faith its unreal

>>82466771
>so yeah there would be firefighting
it's cool. musk and thiel would send merc armies. what a larp scenario kek

>>82466792
consider: they would go the lefty side so they can have their e-cities projects. preservation of the PNW = preservation of the American economy. it can't afford to be destroyed, if it were america would be a third world country

>>82466802
lmao you vastly overestimate how important the PNW is

>>82464811
I'm a brown guy taking to a Mexican girl and we both think this shit was horrible despite disagreeing with the guy.
Her white friend seemed to be celebrating this though. Really makes you think

>>82466742
wtf are you talking about bidens genocide thats a graph showing political domestic terrorism you said i was wrong about people on the right being more violent politically and im showing you empirical data that probes otherwise. anything else? faggot

>>82466813
Yeah. Mexicans are retarded.

>>82466756
european imperialism was liberal you utter retard
>>82466769
>I agree
no i said "yes, if your definition of right and elft is retarded" and then you kept posting in an effort to convince me that your definition of left and right wasn't retarded which you failed to do.
>NO YOU DONT YOU IDORT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR POINT THAT LIBERALISM IS A RIGHT WING IDEOLOGY
again, you have no ability to follow an argument.
>>82466787
your dumbfuck woke socialism is also liberal you retard so idk what you're so happy about
>>82466820
biden killed 60,000 people in gaza so where the fuck is that on your graph you evil liberal piece of shit???

>>82466813
White women see their father or their uncle, they see a white man as the sole perpetrator of a system that oppresses and all that nonsense.

>>82466824
No. You are retarded. Braindead luddite. Probably a Christcuck too. Hope you swing from the rafters soon.

>>82466813
We need cracker control it seems.

>>82466833
As a white woman (cis) I had an absent father figure, so when I see a mature man it, it really excites me and turns me on because it fulfills something that was fundamentally missing from my life. So no. I don't fit your worldview. I do love daddies though.

>>82466849
many such cases. daddy issues is a real thing

>>82466829
socialism isnt liberalism. holy fuck. like thats just a fact i dont know how we are genuinely arguing about that. communism is not liberal and neither is fascism although id agree that the democrats and the conservatives in america today are both liberal, although trump is definitely putting that into question.

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GRAPH SHOWS DOMESTIC POLITICAL TERRORISM DUE TO ONE MOTIVE OR ANOTHER, SHOWING RIGHT LEANING ISSUES ARE MORE PREDOMINANT; WHY ARE YOU BRINGING UP BIDENS GENOCIDE WHICH YOU SHOULD VERY WELL KNOW AS I HAVE EXPRESSED THAT I AM A LEFTIST OF COURSE IM NEVER IN SUPPORT OF NEOLIBERAL RETARD JOE BIDEN BOMBING CHILDREN. god

>>82464795 (OP)
Its just first world idiocy just as >>82464834 states these people are so completely entitled and detached from reality they see violence as entertaining
People who actually have witnessed it know how evil the world can truly be

>>82466849
>t fulfills something that was fundamentally missing from my life
how old are you kek

>>82466829
like please before you say socialism is liberal please fucking look up "is socialism liberal" on google like please please PLEASE

>>82466849
You want to fuck ur dad
Other hoes hate their dad

>>82466872
you are so detached from reality you find 4chan entertaining

>>82466883
who gives a shit thoughever

>>82466829
Even in your definition of 1792 left v right you were agreeing that liberalism is right wing, what are you on about? You literally said
>i'm arguing against the idea that liberalism has ever been on the left.
What is wrong with your brainworms, dude? Take your meds.

Today I will remind them: Trooning out beats the alternative.

>>82466909
is that why troons commit suicide at a far greater rate than the normal population? nearly 50% of troons off themselves, apparently

>>82466909
Killing yourself because of women and trooning out just so you don't die an incel is a thing only weaklings and inferiors do.
41%

>>82466900
the guy im fuckinG TALKING TOO oh my fucking god

>>82466871
>socialism isnt liberalism.
ok what is social democracy then lmao.
>communism is not liberal
the soviet union was kept afloat through its collaboration with liberal democracies
>neither is fascism
debatable. italian fascism shares the liberal obsession with institutions and checks and balances. arguably only nazism, maoism, arab nationalism, islamism and stalinism count as statism in the 20th century
>WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GRAPH SHOWS DOMESTIC POLITICAL TERRORISM DUE TO ONE MOTIVE OR ANOTHER
then what the fuck is even your point? how can you argue that conservatism is more violent than liberalism when genocide occurred under the stewardship of ur-liberal joe biden?
>>82466883
social democracy and marxism have many liberal elements and argue from liberal moral principles based on human rights. the central premise of marxism- that the proles are oppressed and exploited is based upon a liberal worldview where that is bad/ violates human rights.
>>82466905
yeah, at that moment i was in response to you saying i think conservatism is left-leaning. again, if you really want to think that i was agreeing with you from the start here;
>only if you have a retarded definition of left and right
then you are free to do so. you're the one who objects to the idea that you have a retarded definition of left and right, not me. i fully accept your definition is retarded. i think liberalism is NOT leftist, not that liberalism is right-leaning which i guess you could say if you think that political ideologies are either left-wing or right-wing, which i don't. but again idrc that much because i agreed with you from the beginning, with the caveat that your definitions of left and right are retarded.

>>82466954
he clearly doesn't care, and neither does anybody else retard

>>82466896
>Insulting me instead of addressing my argument
Just say that you're mad nigger

>>82464795 (OP)
Are you crying about leftist making fun of chudmeister after you spent an entire day spamming TND threads and mocking that ukrainian girls death because she supported BLM?

>>82466963
im telling as before, the guy goes around every thread feigning retardation and starting shit. IGNORE him.

>>82466970
umm you think this helps the libtard case somehow?

>>82466813
Yea, spics are the most white worshipping catholicucks on the planet, of course you think it was horrible. You literally have more empathy for whites than your own "Race"

>>82466984
Sounds like that guy is just human and you're an insane person.

Socialism is based and the correct ideology of every true Robot
Seize the means of reproduction
Universal health care, universal basic income
Tax the rich
With the level of automation and efficiency provided by modern technology there is no reason for 40-hour work weeks to exist (except for the wealthiest 1% to buy mansions/yachts/child-slaves)

>>82466984
How can people write this and not see how evil they are?
You are getting mad because someone finds killing people bad. Leftist are subhumans, Jesus.

>>82466984
Why do leftoid trannies such ash you hate your own race?

>>82466963
there was no argument youre just fucking retarded. are you asian? i smell onions sauce near you

>>82467013
that guy clearly is not a leftist

>>82467013
>You are getting mad because someone finds killing people bad. Leftist are subhumans, Jesus.
Yeah, it's been a really radicalizing day. Leftists making excuses for that girl that was brutally murdered yesterday and then today openly celebrating some random politics guy being murdered...it's like what in the hell is wrong with them?

>>82466970
it should be legal to shoot 6yo liberals for watching black panther

>>82466984
You know these killings are common in Latin America. Mexico had like 10+ politically motivated deaths last election cycle (cartels of course). It's not surprising to be annoyed of it happening in a better nation

>>82466958
>with the caveat that your definitions of left and right are retarded.
We already went through both of our definitions and you said that liberals were on the right in both of them. Where did the girondins sit again? The undisputed origin of the term, was it? You're a fucking clown, dude.

>>82467056
>Mexico had like 10+ politically motivated deaths last election cycle (cartels of course).
Will the cartels ever be beaten mexicbro?

>>82467058
no i said that liberals supported those who sat on the right during the national assembly and sat on the right during the convention. also, this was in the context of 1792 in the french equivalent of the senate. in the wider context of royalism vs leftism liberals were merely supporters and fellow travellers of royalism rather than being royalists, much like how today they merely indirectly support the ruling class rather than being a part of it or directly supporting it. you were saying that liberalism IS a right-wing ideology in the present day which is a retarded definition of right-wing. again, you have no ability to follow an argument.

>>82467094
You're the one that said liberalism hasn't changed at all in 230 years. So which is it? When, in your view, did liberalism stop being right-wing?

>>82467119
i didn't even say that liberalism is right-wing in that post lmao. again, i am only saying that liberalism is right-wing if you accept a retarded definition of left and right. your job is to explain how your definition of right-wing isn't retarded or to admit that it's a retarded definition. why am i constructing both sides of this argument.

>>82465668
we just had a string of retarded leftoid trannies shooting up christian schools. your pet niggers also count, so no, it's you by a wide margin. you co-sign their behavior so you own it. fuck you faggot. i fucking wish right leaning retards were anywhere near as radical and violent as you concern trolling shitlib fucks say, you need to be excised from our societies, you are a fucking retarded death cult of ugly inside and out mutants who live off spite and malice and sharing a civic space with you is a fucking ignominy. die, cretin. expire right now you fucking cunt.

>>82467082
Not without bloodshed no. Corruption is rampant

>>82465668
>>82465671
rightoids define political violence in a way where people getting blown up by US bombs or poor people dying young because they can't afford medicine/food/shelter doesn't count

>>82467172
because those aren't political violence, so why you're trying to pretend they are is very strange and immediately marks you as someone not arguing in good faith.

but who am I kidding? a leftist arguing in good faith? literally never happened

>>82467148
You're the one that has a hard-on for the seating arrangement of the French Revolution. Put the pieces of your own argument together. You've already agreed with me that liberalism is right-wing under both MY definition of left-right and YOUR definition of left-right.

>>82467149
consult the graph i replied with earlier showing stats of poltiical violence. it genuinely seems to me that you have no understanding of formal logic at all and how one idea relates to another. i WISH leftists were as radical as you fucking retards, magaoids literally broke into the fucking capitol. i just dont understand how we can see the same reality of objective facts and somehow come to 2 vastly different conclusions; this seems logically impossible, unless you are severely fucking retarded also youre more than likely a virgin so go get some pussy while youre at it kid trust me being on 4chan isnt gonna help with that you fucking faggot

>>82465736
>On paper, leftists should be the good guys.

opens with a retarded statement

>All leftists want to do is overthrow oppressors and save the downtrodden.

goes on to say retarded shit, denying context. learn about nietzsche's corruption of the weak and how weakness perverts. anyone operating from a radical position of victimhood will invariably be morbidly cruel, bitter and vengeful which is what the contemporary leftist dogma revolves around, power structures and victimhood narratives. there's nothing noble or "good guy-like" about "overthrowing oppressors" without a fucking abundance of context to go into what exactly that means, because scum fuck leftists use arbitrary means to define what an oppressor is and once you start going down the path of arbitrage to dehumanize targets and signal them for killing you have already lost any claim to moral authority. ever heard any of these morons say "punch a nazi?" now conceptualize how unrealistic it is to claim anyone is related to a german movement from nearly a hundred years ago in the modern age, and who exactly is setting the terms and parameters for what constitutes such a person.

>>82467182
>You've already agreed with me that liberalism is right-wing under YOUR definition of left-right.
no i fucking haven't lol.
>in the wider context of royalism vs leftism liberals were merely supporters and fellow travellers of royalism rather than being royalists, much like how today they merely indirectly support the ruling class rather than being a part of it or directly supporting it.
i agree that it's not leftist and it opposed leftism, but not that it's right-wing. if you're going to call liberalism right-wing then your definition of right-wing is dumb.

>>82466317
>Mental illness. I used to be a leftard but my views started changing during Covid.

good lad

>>82467221
What's your definition of right-wing?

>>82467236
is the ruling class or directly supports the ruling class

>>82467181
they're violence and they're perpetrated by the state (and this is hardly a strange idea, it goes back to Engels and social murder, if not earlier; do you have any familiarity with left-wing thought? )
I'm attacking the legitimacy of "political violence" as a special category bracketed off from all the other people the state kills, one which we should care about more

>>82464802
op have women? op chad!

>>82467257
And does liberalism fall under that in the modern world?

>>82467325
nah not really yo

>>82465675
most humans factual deserve to die

>>82465882
>This glorified yes man that is tailored to agree with me has agreed with me therefore you are STUPID
You are lobotomized

>>82466977
Thats the point

There is no case for rightoids, they made it clear they are hateful demons who alienate and generalize anything different. No point wasting time trying to please them anymore when they are proudly erasing facts and history

>>82466993
He wasnt being human when charlie spent last 5 years normalizing racism and white nationalism or when he turned the deaths of those dem senators into a political spectacle. You may as well give up the moral brigade because no one is buying it lol

They are retards that can't breed. They are miserable freaks and everyone with eyes can just look at them and see their pain.

>>82464795 (OP)
Gas chambers and helicopter rides for all of them.

>>82464795 (OP)
your lot calls for killing of anyone you disagree with, your argument is disingenuous, OP I suggest a quick exercise in dangling by the neck on a rope attached to a ceiling fan.

>>82465786
very based Kyoko

>>82466813
white women are cartoonishly evil when it comes to their own men

>>82464795 (OP)
They should all be killed. Though UBI and Keynes' 15 hour week is very based, and should have happened in the West already, instead of growing wage-slavery, open-borders mass-immigration, and mass-outsourcing to slaves. The left want open borders, the right want cheaper slaves. Globalism is a race to the bottom, and the road to slavery. I'd much rather have an automated autarky NatSoc ethno-state, to be honest.

>>82464795 (OP)
Bloodthirsty animals who need to be put down.

>>82464795 (OP)
Jew copies. They strike you while saying they're the victims. If you want control and power, just say so, don't try to hide it behind le feminism, trans, gay rights, etc.

>>82465882
shitskins really think that chatpgt is some deity thats always right
scary times ahead, you fucking subhuman

>>82465912
China is national socialist and it's the most powerful nation on Earth
China proves that racial nationalism is superior to antiwhite brown worship

you lost

>>82465951
>>82465970
>CHATGPT SAID IT SO ITS CORRECT!
literal shitskin tier intelligence

>>82466109
>The racist right is utterly irrelevant politically
Among white people, ONLY right wing, conservative, religious people have a replacement birthrate
leftists are infertile, get vasectomies, kill their babies, choose to become ugly and not have children, troon their children
The end result is pretty clear, the White people of the future are the right wingers, your kind is literally going extinct

who is irrelevant? 50 years from now there'll be no such thing as a White leftist

>>82469779
Generations don't die out in 50 years, obviously. Obviously the US population gain is much larger in black/hispanic communities, extra especially to repealing abortion.

>>82469779
That's why leftist teachers groom the children of right-wingers through the public education sector, using your taxpayer money.

>>82469779
if you can't give those right-wing, conservative, religious people a decent standard of living, and let the rich squeeze them dry, their kids won't follow them ideologically
my parents are well to my right and I'm not alone, consider all the memes about thanksgiving gatherings turning into fights

>>82467559
Ad hominem. You have no argument against the facts, so you have to attack the presentation. I'm not a zoomer. I know how to proofread and look up my own facts. Do you?

>>82469819
>the schools, media, movies, and celebrities tell me what to believe from an early age
>i believe all those things but actually its just because of the living standards under republicans
makes sense. i just wish progressives understood that they are the ones most closely aligned with the western elites and not misunderstood rebels

>>82464795 (OP)
It's cooler when they're being open about wanting to kill lots of people rather than pretending to be the side of kindness and empathy or whatever

>>82465866
>uhm, ackshually the dead troon that died celebrated a christian school shooting that happened before he died AFTER he died.
>Checkmate, chud.