Thread 82472438

This shit is just radicalizing me more. Charlie Kirk obviously had some bad beliefs such as his Zionism but these people are straight up Stalinists who want to kill any opposition. I hope this also isnt some psyop and the shooter gets skinned alive. Much blessings to his family and I congratulate any tranny who is sane about this

>>82472438 (OP)
I'm tired of your trolling time to filter his name

>>82472460
Charlie Kirk
Say it with my
Charlie Kirk

>>82472438 (OP)
What's bad about Zionism?

Stalinists politically don't exist, it's useless online schizos rambling.

>>82472438 (OP)
Didn't he say a few gun deaths are acceptable? Sounds like he got what he wished for.

If you are gonna avatarfag with that pic I'm just gonna use this one

>>82472438 (OP)
stop bringing great stalin into this, he would put your entire shitty political elite into work camps and it would be just and good

>>82472438 (OP)
Do assassinations of left wing politicians get equal attention?

>>82472658
Gay argument
>>82472637
Israel kills children

>>82472737
I think that killing people is bad

>>82472811
Sure but to convincingly make that point we need to clearly show that we condemn violence both from the left and the right. When outrage becomes selective it will be perceived as unfair by the other side which lowers empathy even further.

>>82472906
Well that is impossible
War will happen
Remind me in 4 years

>>82472438 (OP)
Kikes aren't human
Neither are you, tranny
I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone
t. reich wing

>>82472800
>Gay argument
Says the person with no argument

>>82472926
You are a massive dick sucking faggot

>>82472916
>War will happen
Seems hyperbolic to me. More realistically there will be an increase in violent incidents and we will probably see the start of direct confrontations too but rioting will remain a spare time activity and not a quit your day job kind of occupation.

>>82472945
Okay look at this
Lets say we have a bridge builder who builds bridges
Unfortunately one bridge he built wasnt safe and broke
Therefore should he have never built a bridge? Are bridges bad? Yes its obviously ironic but this isnt a fucking mass shooting it was targeted. Like you are just being bad faith because you are offended by a guy who debated college kids. You are a small man and you have a tiny dick. Like actually fuck you charlie Kirk isnt bad enough to get killed

>>82472971
Well nothing ever happens

>>82472950
Tell me more about how America would be America even if we were 90% Indian, kike.

>>82473015
I genuinely dont know what anyone here believes anymore

>>82472658
This. He became a victim of what he advocated for, something he was hopefully ready for. I am also 2A and understand it could lead to my death, as it could anyone else.

I won't say it radicalized me any more than I am now. I just won't listen to leftists anymore. Whatever any leftist has to say about anything, I'm just not going to pay attention to it or give it any consideration.

>>82472438 (OP)
I wouldn't be so hasty in forming such an opinion. We still don't know who killed him or why. I suspect it was a right winger though. Despite all the screeching leftists do online, they almost never have the balls to actually follow through and kill anyone, let alone make the attempt.

>>82473127
There was a tranny that shot a school last month

>>82472986
>Lets say we have a bridge builder who builds bridges
No, this is a bridge builder who knows fuck all about building bridges and got himself killed on a bridge that he built.
>Yes its obviously ironic but this isnt a fucking mass shooting it was targeted
Stuff like this is always going to happen, especially in America, so you can't say he didn't see it coming. There'll always be crazies who want to hurt others, and you decide to make it easy to give them a highly lethal ranged weapon that can strike from range and is very difficult to defend against. I can't help you if you're this naive.
>Like you are just being bad faith because you are offended by a guy who debated college kids.
You don't have an argument so you say I'm arguing in bad faith lol

Leftists are retarded. It's not a good idea to create a martyr of a group you dislike. None of the backlash is good for the left. Moderates are turning right and the right is becoming more radicalized. History has constantly shown that when you create a martyr you just create a million more people just like them. This isn't even considering the leftists celebrating. The same people talking about "human empathy" are celebrating a father being killed in front of his family because he disagreed with them, and he was a moderate.

>>82473141
That's their kind of violence, and it is a problem of its own, but I mean specifically more politically motivated killings. Then again, I did say that we don't know why it was done yet. For all we know the shooter had a personal issue with him that had nothing to do with his politics.

>>82472438 (OP)
>This shit is just radicalizing me more.
Why would you admit to this LMAO. Fucking retard.
>but these people are straight up Stalinists
Who are "these people"?
>Much blessings to his family
Indeed.
>and I congratulate any tranny who is sane about this
Sure you do. Not that I like em either ;-)

>>82473164
Well what if it wasnt his own bridge?

>>82473188
Is there any confirmation leftist killed him?

>>82472438 (OP)
>This shit is just radicalizing me more.
what does this mean? that you now have different Opinions? that's sick i guess.

>>82473188
nobody gives a shit. he isnt the first body, won't be the last. it's just your cultish media bubble that assumes anybody takes this bighead seriously

>>82473188
It is funny someone who stated that gun deaths every year are nothing to worry about and empathy is for the weaks fans are now saying we should be empathetic for victims of gun violence, particularly the specific one who said we should not. Being right wing must be confusing.

>>82472438 (OP)
he was your average facebook boomer and they're trying to paint him like goebbels in a shitty attempt to justify it, that's what shakes people who aren't completely fucking insane

>>82472438 (OP)
The right is far worse

>>82474072
Bro you are confusing
Banning guns wont do shit and you know this.

>>82474090
Its fucking ridiculous
>>82474131
Take your prep you fag

>>82474133
>banning guns
?

>>82473188
This was obviously the act of someone on the right, either as the result of infighting or propaganda production. To think that a leftist would do this and not take the opportunity to grandstand and push a manifesto shows how politically illiterate you are. If you paid attention to the media and political agenda of the last 24 hours, you could easily see how this was organized by the right.

>>82474137
buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
like a fucking script in your head

>>82473025
Lmao right? You people have the strangest fucking beliefs.

>>82474153
Do you think Im evil

It's really annoying that the right to own a gun is a right wing thing. It should be an issue handled independently from right/left wing politics.

>>82474158
Why are you so smug

>>82474159
no just unwilling to change because you're indifferent with everything that is happening

>>82474168
But why would I support a group that hates me? I bet you hate me

>>82474168
Do you seriously think anything can fix America? I hope it burns all down and something better rises from the ashes

>>82474175
No you frustrate me

>>82474204
changing the two party system would be a start. Republicans come in, fuck up everything, overspend like hell and then the Democrats come in 4 years later having to spend 4 years cleaning up the Republicans mess, getting fuckall done and then the cleanup isnt going fast enough so the americans vote in Republicans again because they're "better with money and running businesses" despite running a huge deficit and racking up the US debt every term for the last 30 years.

Trump signed his "big beautifull bill" which will add anywhere from 2-4 trillion dollars to the US debt.

>>82472438 (OP)
Why would you not celebrate an evil person getting themselves killed?
>incel neet is finally radicalized because president's top youtuber died
Wowee.
>>82472986
It's more like saying bridges should have next to no building restrictions since it's cheaper and society is more free that way, then he dies in a bridge collapsing.
>it's not a mass shooting
Yeah, it's not even really that bad even if you are a MIGA conservative.
>>82472916
Maybe if Trump didn't turn his head that one time, but you can't say that Kirk wasn't that important but also civil war will happen because he got killed.
>>82473141
There have been over ~7k mass shootings since 2013 and a handful were done by trannies. That was also a nazi tranny.

>>82473188
Two more weeks till civil war! Deus volt! You pussies will never do anything except kill children.
>>82474056
None whatsoever.
>>82474090
He's a top propagandist for the GOP who are actively destroying America and will lead to the deaths of millions of innocents.

>>82472438 (OP)
>stalinists who want to kill any opposition
>>hope he gets skinned alive

>>82474164
The left is only incredibly tepidly anti-gun since it's a losing issue. We've all accepted deaths like Kirk's are just a natural biproduct of the freedom for any insane person to be able to get a gun.
>>82474381
Most coherent right-winger.

>>82474376
why'd you forget your avatar here, t-kun? it's a minute apart, everyone here was relatively sane until you showed up, nobody buys it's anybody but you
>inb4 inspect element

>>82474401
I only separated the replies since 4chan bans mass replies for some gay reason. Looking forward to an argument, though.

>>82474411
there's no point arguing with you, you're insane, you're out for blood because you feel a personal stake in dating a tranny, you want revenge over a troon that threw himself off a bridge, you admitted it yesterday

>>82474411
they're also supposed to ban you for flagrant avatarfagging, but we all know they never touch you anyway

>>82474419
Lol what? I just said that right-wingers have a far lower standard for celebrating a death (a child who made a joke vs. an extremely prominent propagandist for a murderous regime) and are obviously hypocrites at best.
>>82474424
It's not avatarfagging if you change the anime girl every 3 or so posts, or less. It literally autospam filters if you try to reply to too many people.

>>82474376
>He's a top propagandist for the GOP who are actively destroying America and will lead to the deaths of millions of innocents.
i would like to ask in what way millions of innocents are likely or certain to die? which innocents, where, and in what manner? and also in what way(s) the GOP would be institutionally responsible. don't get me wrong, in a few years i find it fairly plausible or even likely that more than a couple millions Americans will perish from disease, privation, and violence.

>>82472438 (OP)
>This shit is just radicalizing me more

>>82474446
the cuts to medicaid are already going to kill millions over the course of a few decades.
climate change denial.
the economic ruin of 2008 caused 10k extra suicides, and this economic collapse is going to be worse because of the GOP's direct choices
we arent even in the happening but you can already attribute well over 100k deaths to their retarded policy by projecting the conditions theyve created into the future. climate change will probably kill at least a percent of the population and people are already dying to the heat at faster and faster levels

>>82474446
Incompetence from top to bottom including in the areas of law enforcement, health and safety standards, Healthcare access, disastrous economic policies that have already caused bankruptcies and suicides, irresponsible federal spending destroying even future administrators ability to get things back on track, climate denialism contributing to climate change and the current droughts and floods plauging the country, which coincides with the defunding of fema so the federal government can't even assist people affected by climate change, deregulation of Osha and other industry standards causing things like numerous airplane crashes and chemical accidents and train derailments

Trumps second term can only be described as an unmitigated disaster that will mark the end of the American empire.

>>82474446
Yeah, no civil war or collapse is happening any time soon, but the USAID cuts alone will kill millions simply so we can afford more tax cuts with only a worse deficit than previous years.
Medicaid cuts of course will kill millions, but that'll probably take longer (but since some are white Americans you may actually care if they die).

>>82474477
i see. i was thinking you were meaning that the GOP was the proximate or even sole cause of a hypothetical domestic armed conflict in which millions would die in various ways. i was wrong! thanks for answering.

you're certainly not wrong that the economic collapse will be worse (and much, i think!) than 2008- although fairly foolish to think the opposing national party would be able to avoid this collapse through....well, whatever you think. the chickens have a lot of inertia in this case, world reserve currency and all. but they're coming home to roost. few years out, but they'll be roosting. always do. i would very much like to know what specifically Democrats, even if given carte blanche, would do differently to mitigate or prevent this coming economic depression.

climate change i ain't even talking about that. we very obviously need to pour beaucoup shekels into both R&D and construction of new nuclear power facilities.

>>82474485
>>82474489
thanks for the replies. i'm not terribly interested in a long discussion, but i do appreciate you enumerating your takes a little more. i won't really bother to explain my positions. sorry for that! i'm not at all a Trump Guy so to speak, and i am certainly not a liberal, classical or otherwise. right-reactionary that understands we haven't had Serious People in national leadership roles since 1992. certainly understand that the current Executive apparatus is not terribly effective or efficient even at stated goals. figure the real problem economically comes around 2030, at which point a likely largely-racially based conflict is fairly possible. a very nasty business. predicated upon material conditions being truly awful.

best of luck in life anyway, we don't have to hate one another until we're manning roadblocks and trenches, ya know?

>>82474517
im actually a different anon but i agree with you in part. im a radical radical. the paradigm needs to end, no matter what. something new needs to be created. constructive change within the system has become impossible through the system. all of the groups that are capturing the system to alienate regular people who are suffering and having their quality of life lowered are the enemies of the people. i'm a socialist because i believe we need to start seeing the alignment of our own interests as workers.
i won't lie and say i don't have resentment though. the right wing has willingly accepted lies and things like climate change denial in service to their oil overlords. you could have formed a bridge about immigration by fighting to protect the value of labor and workers rights, but instead you alienated every group of people that weren't psychotic evangelists. the problems were left to fester too long on both sides, and the points of resentment have become so extreme that it's difficult to see them dissolve.
unironically though, just look at where the evil money goes. the companies spying on us are made by billionaire supremacist praxis group fuds. trump was bankrolled by people begging for government contracts. the system is actively being used for self enrichment on a scale never before seen in the US. if this doesn't outrage you today, i dont see how we can ever be allies in the future as fellow americans.
the whataboutisms are finally coming home to roost. it's an extremely leftist point that we're coerced into participating in a system that then uses that participation to validate its own evils
this is class consciousness, and what i believe in.

>>82473188
They are retarded, brown, or dysgenic in general. This is what they do. They cannot help it.

>>82474575
>the Onion offends me
How fragile are you? lol

>>82474562
we agree on many things- i think we probably both see something close to "reality". the current conditions and proximate causes, i mean. besides the whole climate change trip. i'm agnostic on that. we likely envision somewhat (but maybe not very!) different ideal solutions. or maybe more accurately, the road to a given solution.

we'd probably get along. i hope we don't have to shoot at one another. but i'm also a sectionalist. i care for the family and friends i know personally and intimately, then my county, then my state, then i *suppose* my country. and of course my area has a distinct and powerful history of sectionalism...and hey, i was born here and i never left. it's in me. there's a certain pseudo-soil to regions, you know?

The world may finally be healing

>>82474655
>we'd probably get along. i hope we don't have to shoot at one another. but i'm also a sectionalist. i care for the family and friends i know personally and intimately, then my county, then my state, then i *suppose* my country. and of course my area has a distinct and powerful history of sectionalism...and hey, i was born here and i never left. it's in me. there's a certain pseudo-soil to regions, you know?
i agree. i think that the federal government has too much power over our individual affairs.
plato and aristotle imagined that a virtuous society could only be created in a polis, which is like 10,000 people or so.
we have 400.000,000 americans. as long as our self defense can be assured through confederation and other practices, i dont understand why we have to chain ourselves to the things that we hate. My serious proposal for this current time and place is west cost secessionalism and a east/west rome type of divide between the social systems to hopefully preserve at least one.

>>82474606
>missing the point this astronomically
retarded, brown, or otherwise dysgenic

>>82474562
thinking further, i'd like to recommend a book. it's not one you'll hear many places. Let's Carve This Imperial Turkey (While They're Something Still Left To Carve) by Thomas Chittum. his more famous book is Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America. that was a prediction (not come to pass yet) of Balkanization and conflict upon strict racial lines. he served briefly as a mercenary in the Balkan conflict 91-95, and saw a few glaring similarities to back home. extraordinarily interesting book, i think you might find it so as well. from a very different perspective than you may be used to. but in terms of very radical political solutions to salvage things before they all go to shit, its amazing. if r9k doesn't block these links, check it out

https://annas-archive.org/md5/5d4aa1b19148c472b8b6ac7b2c99e302

>>82474684
I'm responding to the pic. What you're saying is just slop spammed 24/7.

The shooter was clearly sent by the government to instill civil unrest and distract people from what a pedophile Trump is.
>Hit directly in the neck from 200 yards away
>Got away with ease
>Only pictures of the suspect is some generic white guy
>Gun found behind campus with a pro trans inscriptions on bullets
Shit's way too obvious.

>>82474364
>>82474287
I wish I could delete my thread now

>>82474071
He was a massive conservative figure. I'm pretty sure people give a shit if he's the reason flags are at half mast this weekend and it's a massive political discussion right now, people didn't forget Trump's assassination attempt and they won't forget this one
>>82474072
Cheering for the death of a father for disagreeing with you only shows that the leftist schtick of "love" is nothing more than a facade, leftists would kill every conservative if they had the chance
>>82474149
Thank God I'm not a retarded schizo like you, there were leftist markings on the bullets and the biggest suspect is a tranny
>>82474376
That's the best part, there isn't going to be a civil war. The left won't die fighting, but slowly die until you are no longer relevant and hold no power. The democratic party is extremely unpopular now, but with this going on now? It'll take a miracle for the democrats to win the midterm or 2028, especially if Trump goes ahead with his plans to enforce voter IDs, enact a new census, and ban mail in ballots. The Democratic party will have to fundamentally change if they ever hope to win again
Remember, the ONLY age demographic that has shifted Democrat at all are boomers, young people were supposed to be their most dedicated and reliable voters, but they even lost them

>>82474287
>>82474364
Just sorry just I cant anymore bye yeah I lost like I always do

>>82474679
it's a big country. we could all have what we want. and i'd quite like that. but this is a bit of fallacy like the serious libertarians and anarchists have. people simply aren't strictly or even mostly rational actors in many or even most cases. we must work with what reality is, not what it ought to be. a shame. if everyone would just act decently, morally, and not fucking retardedly, this would be much easier!

>>82474696
some shit on it is funny as fuck. certainly agree. however,

>>Hit directly in the neck from 200 yards away
not a terribly difficult shot with a zero'd rifle (is 30/06 Mauser still the story?) on stationary target from rest
>Got away with ease
private security for stuff like this is for retards rushing the speaker either armed or unarmed. probably will change now, but university security is for shit
>Only pictures of the suspect is some generic white guy
i don't know if this needs a response; does someone need to look terribly unique to blast a public figure?
>>Gun found behind campus with a pro trans inscriptions on bullets
you got me here, apparently ole Crowder is getting heat for "leaking" that from the BATFE? sounds fucking retarded to me, man. i'm with you

>>82474729
The left has gone through far, far worse than losing by <200k votes, but yeah, the DNC is unimaginably ineffective and useless. For right-wingers, it's still nowhere near clear what's next after Trump dies or it's otherwise very obvious he won't be able to run again. It's also not clear if the economic ruin is going to get so much worse that it'll be like 2020 where even running a dying animal would've led to an easy victory.
The suspect just looks like a generic white male college kid to me, though, lol.

>>82474736
yeah, thats about the sum of it.
the media in its current state is too much for a regular person to handle, including myself.
if we met each other face to face, we'd probably sit around a fire and drink a beer. and now we're talking about arresting and killing one another in the mainstream media. who wins? not us.

>>82474689
thanks for the recommendation. i'll read this.

>>82474696
>the pro-trans engravings in question:

>>82474804
We live in a completely different world than when Reagan ran, there is a lot more loyalty to parties and the main political divide is culturally.
>nowhere near clear what's next after Trump dies
I think Vance is the obvious choice, he's young and popular. He's at least a lot more of an obvious choice than what the left has, who keep on flip flopping between people like AOC and Newsom and Bernie.

>>82474696
FALL GUY FALL GUY FALL GUY

>>82474913
Where is the evidence Vance is popular? lol. The economy is mostly why presidents win or lose. I'm not sure what you're even talking about desu. There are no signs the economy will go anywhere but worse from here.

>>82472438 (OP)
>Anime picture
>Immediately crying about communism like it's 1957
>on /b/
Quit larping you crocodile tear having moralizer faggot bitch; you were never anywhere close to centrist/moderate/whatever the fuck else.

All this performative moral faggotry is embarrassing and you should be ashamed. You were almost certainly laughing about *insert fucked up thing alt right fuckboys in your discord chatroom were joking about* just within the last day before this happened. You're not better than anyone here, you're so far up your own ass you're smelling today's breakfast.

>>82474364
>~7k mass shootings
Only if you include gang related ones, but I thought leftists didnt count those because it was racist or something.

>>82472438 (OP)
>but these people are straight up Stalinists who want to kill any opposition
What about the MAGA insurrectionists that attack the capitol building because they were salty over Biden winning that election?

>>82474950
You want like a "do you know who Vance is" statistics or something retard? When you see people talk about the potential 2028 Republican candidate, it's pretty much always Vance, it's common for a vice president to run as president in the next election
Also, the economy is fine the left has been saying "2 more weeks until massive depression!" Since January and nothing has happened.

>>82475020
>do you know who Vance is
Lmao what, no, I obviously mean his approval rating. Trump's record on the economy is unbelievably unpopular right now, just the Democrats are even more unpopular since they stand for nothing. I hope they change lol, and there's a huge amount of time for that to happen. If you think over a year off from the mid-terms means literally anything, you're hopelessly lost in politics.
>the economy is fine
Not according to Americans, lol.
>>82474980
There are still many thousands even if you don't include gang-related shootings. Mass shooters, per-capita, are far more likely to be cis men than trans- anything.

>>82474729
The ATF "leak" has already been denied by law enforcement. You are incredibly susceptible to propaganda and the Kirk killing is doing exact what it's supposed to do with you.

>>82475020
Have you been living under a rock? The jobs numbers are horrendous. Nothing has been going well for the economy except boomers' retirement accounts, at expense of everyone else.

>>82472438 (OP)
>I hope this also isnt some psyop and the shooter gets skinned alive.
they aint finding him bucko.

>>82472438 (OP)
Everyone should want to kill their opposition. The second amendment is in very specific fact in place so that the citizens are empowered to shoot their political opposition, as The Constitution was written by armed revolutionaries who understood that tyrants only answer to gunfire. I have no issue with this, and may be the best man win so to speak.

>>82474517
>few years out, but they'll be roosting.
Post this prediction with a specific date and I'll screencap it, even just a year or small range of years is ok.

>>82475170
oh, it's sometime around 2030. that's when there are going to be two options: print into near-zimbabwe level, or radically cut nearly every entitlement program. i suspect the former. a black swan event like the New Madrid or San Andreas fault-lines bussin' wide open, or other ecological disaster like a super hurricane whacking the entire east coast at once can of course move up that timeline. it also does depend heavily on geopolitics- specifically the USD as world reserve currency. if a carrier gets bonked, that's gonna move things up too.

i think the ensuing domestic conflict will be almost entirely ad-hoc and localized in terms of organization; i don't buy the dueling faction in the federal gub'mint shit at all. there's nobody at the wheel besides complete retards. everyone's gonna be whistling dixie while the ship goes down. tomorrow is just like the last day except it sucks a tiny bit more. until it sucks a lot more.

>>82475170
Some of us have been fighting in this covert war for our entire lives. This operation was also what GATE was associated with.
Trust your instincts and do not allow yourself to be marched off to war in these bullshit conflicts. Eyes on the prize and the only worthy fight is on home soil against these demons.
If you are in the USA and not already heavily armed, that is something you need to fix quickly. Euros are unfortunately going to have to, figuratively, storm the Bastille again several times over in order to have a chance.

Know where your allegiance lies and who your friends are. That's all.

>>82473188
Isn't it funny how leftists keep talking about empathy and shaming others for being bigots for thinking this trans stuff is unnatural and evil while being the most calluous and most bigoted themselves? Is that a false flag by the right or are they actually this retarded? Killing people might be necessary but anyone who enjoys it needs to be culled from society, no matter their political convictions. Them's the rules in a civilized society.

>>82474575
This was actually a funny onions article, they are generally kinda bad.

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INCARCERATION

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