Thread 82545396

>why is hypersexuality the default
>I can't take the "well it's been 5 months"

I don't understand why anyone would feel dissatisfied in a relationship where someone
>buys snacks and household items you like (with your money)
>kisses you (in the original post, she says she hates kisses, but whatever)
and of course
>takes care of her own children, who are not related to you

>>82545477
it has to be ragebait at this point

>>82545396 (OP)
>>82545477
Holy shit marriage seems like such a fucking nightmare. Imagine some woman lying to you for whatever reason about being attracted to you just so you marry her, you think everything is great you just got perfect wife that loves you, and then after the wedding it's lights out. She decides no more sex(if she even put out before the wedding) and basically tells you she isnt attracted to you at all. I legitimately do not understand why women do this. Supposedly all women are rich and infinitely more successful than men nowadays so it cant be for muh resources, right?

>>82545560
I think this is simply the reality most guys have to deal with if they wish to get any kind of relationship.

Or maybe I'm just easily fooled because the entire thing goes through every redpill talking point
>"hypersexual" in her youth due to "trauma"
>had a few kids
>went to therapy
>got a new partner
>eternal dead bedroom since she's "healed" now
>now she gets everything she wants and does very little in return

>>82545477
>his idea of foreplay is grinding his dick on her back at 3am
Jesus, how did he ever get laid?
She loves to cuddle - then cuddle.
Be playful, whisper to her, stimulate her ASMR, tickle her.
There are several ways to pleasure your mate and get them excited.
And afterwards
>finds buldge OwO what's dis?

>>82546166
>do all that just for her to say no
Lmfao why ever do it again

>>82546166
How can you initiate any form of sexual intimacy with someone who thinks things like
>I don't ever want it.
>I don't want it when he grinds on me
>I dont want it when he gives me "that look"
>I don't want it when he kisses me
>Or when I'm naked with him
>Never.
Your idea is to just do another thing she doesn't want. If he was somehow an r9k poster, read you post, then tried it she would post an update the day after about how much she loathes him trying to romance her in a playful way.

>>82545396 (OP)
Sometimes I wonder if it's men's fault
Are women truly such perfect actors that we can't tell if they will stab us in the back or not after 2 years with this person? We make fun of women for smelling incels but being blind to abusers, but do we fall into the same pits?

>>82546166
>you have to literally act like it is a first date every single time you want to have sex even when you are married
>even that usually wont work from the stories I have read
>have seen men say they take their wives out, buy them expensive stuff, dote on them, and go home and massage and cuddle them then when the time comes the wife says no and asks why you cant just do romantic things with no expectations
I genuinely dont understand the point of marriage. You might as well just stay single if you are supposed to do that every time you want sex and still get rejected most of the time.

>>82545396 (OP)
he should just walk away if he isn't receiving the intimacy he want's
It's p fucking simple why lock yourself in a relationship while being on 2 different wavelengths

>>82546511
Your points are accurate. I was married, and sex dried up almost immediately after we got married. Tried everything, nothing worked, so I divorced her. Now I don't even want to date anymore. It's so much effort for so little return. I really do want kids and a family, but I just don't think the times make it viable.

>>82545477
>i do so much for him
>for example i buy him snacks and take care the kids who arent his
lmaoooooooooooooooooo

>>82545396 (OP)
holy shit is that an actual subreddit? What a red flag of red flags lmao.

All women are Chad Sexuals, they're just low libido for average men :)

>>82546511
Marriage has absolutely ZERO (0) benefits for men.

Every man alive, lend me your ear. NEVER get married. Marriage is a legally binding business contract. It says the woman can steal thousands of dollars from the man.

THERE IS NO BENEFIT FOR YOU WHATSOEVER. Think about it: if I came to you and said "Hey, can you sign this legally binding business contract that says in the event I betray you and abandon you, I get $100k from your bank account?"

No one would ever willingly sign that business contract. Yet men STILL choose to get married, which is literally that exact same contract.

And no, "just get a prenup" doesn't work, judges throw them out on a whim. Family courts facilitate the stealing of money from men, just like how infant foreskins are sold to cosmetic testing companies for $800 each so rich women can get fibroblast beauty cream made from foreskins.

>>82546662
and what if you want a family

>>82546662
common law carries the same weight at marriage here so its actually smarter to get married to not make waves or let her beak in your ear about not being married
Always rembar someone has it worse

>>82545608
I don't think women change like that after the wedding, unless you marry a woman you barely know
seems like a rich man problem anyway desu, I don't have the resources to get married for my money to begin with

>>82545396 (OP)
People would rather play politics and games and trick themselves into "loving" someone rather than admit its a broken relationship. Sex is a key component and lack of desire on either end is an issue.

>>82545396 (OP)
holy shit shes all worn out by relentless riding the dick carousel all her 20's and her pussy is so tired now she cant feel anything for this simp, brutal.

>>82546685
What is a family to you?
Do you think a marriage would make her be any less of a woman that what she was before the ring? Do you think a ring will stop her from fucking you over? Are you looking to have power over others while claiming it's for their own good?
Be real, you've been sold the idea that 'marriage then family'. You are just BEGGING to get screwed over by people that don't care about you

>>82546662
>And no, "just get a prenup" doesn't work, judges throw them out on a whim
Proof? Never seen any cases of it being thrown out but people love to say it constantly happens.

>>82546600
>>82546511
I think the funny thing is all the older women (over 30) that state they're looking for a long term relationship. Why would I as a successful man be interested in that? if you're not cute, or you're not going to give me kids, why would I want to spend my resources on you LMAO

>>82546789
anon family court for the most part doesn't post the findings unlike judicial court its basically unprovable either way its mostly anecdotal

>>82545396 (OP)
absolutely brutal for marriage cucks

>>82546815
If it constantly happened then there would be more talk of it. You could pull up articles discussing this topic and the prevalence of it. Even the child trafficking rings set up by the elites have more proof to them than fucking prenups getting thrown out.

>>82546884
>>82546789
dude it's so common just google it. It's not even rare lmao.

>>82546884
feel free to figure it out for yourself anon when you get married i was just explaining the distinction between 2 types of court

>>82546511
>>have seen men say they take their wives out, buy them expensive stuff, dote on them, and go home and massage and cuddle them then when the time comes the wife says no and asks why you cant just do romantic things with no expectations
That's beta af ofc she doesn't want to fuck your soft boy ass

>>82545396 (OP)
>i used to be hypersexual in my younger years
Every time.

>>82547139
Just pull your bootstraps up and be a man for that single mother roastie that has ridden the cock carousel so much she has completely mindbroken herself and doesnt want to fuck you ever, anon.

>>82545477
>(wtf???)
Imagine your partners response to you grinding on them being "wtf" lmao I can't imagine these reddit relationships

>>82545396 (OP)
>I used to be hypersexual when I was young b-but not anymore!
HAHAHAHA She rode the carousel and settled down with a beta provider. Normalfags man

>>82545396 (OP)
>Clearly asexual person selfishly trapping partner in a relationship they're not happy with because it benefits them
Many such cases. This is why I will always communicate what I want before making anything official.

>>82545396 (OP)
>waaah my bodily autonomy
>forces your boyfriend to be a literal incel

>>82547422
having a gf who has zero attraction to you is honestly more humiliating than being an incel

Because normal people want to fuck. A lot.
Asexuals and low-libido bitches should get the fuck out of the way, and stay on their own.
Any man who is denied sex on even a medium-term basis should leave the frigid bitch, because she won't change.
He shouldn't lose half his shit in the divorce either.

>>82547648
he's not trapped, he can leave anytime he wants
and he should

>>82546511
>you have to literally act like it is a first date every single time you want to have sex
looks like that's the choice presented to the husband in that marriage - her fire went out, and he's too lazy or entitled to do the work of lighting it up again. Oh well, he can always rub one out if he really needs to.

>>82545396 (OP)
If she hasn't put out in a week (maybe 2 in some extreme edge case, but this is a one in a million exception), dump her. She might be on her period, half her family died, she got cancer, and she just came home from brain surgery, one whole week is still more than enough time to get her sex drive back to full force. This is also supposing that she didn't directly reject you, doing it a single time is unacceptable.

>>82546166
She doesn't want him and isn't attracted to him. In that dynamic, anything he does is wrong and she'll hyper focus on any "mistakes" for months.
With my ex, I used to literally look her in the eyes and ask her "do you want to have sex?", and it worked because we were very attracted to each other. The only explanation needed is attraction.

>>82546767
Alpha phux, beta buxx. It's just evolutionary psychology. Hahahahahahahhahaha.

>>82548959
Trapped was the wrong word. He's definitely made to feel like he's in the wrong - his idea of foreplay is laughable though.

>>82549712
She doesn't describe foreplay at all, foreplay is the part of sex before you put it in. You might critize his "initiation" though, but in any case it's pretty clear, the woman in the OP simply doesn't wsnt sex at all no matter what.

The "low libido" person is actually always more selfish. The "high libido" partner is NOT obsessed with sex, they just have a healthy body and attraction to the person they are with. A low libido partner turns sex into a battle of attrition and makes the high libido one feel like a pest. Life has it's ups and downs, obviously there will be illnesses deaths and job problems that impact sex but generally if you don't want to fuck all the time you should just BE ALONE or go be with somebody you are actually attracted to. Fucking asshole

>>82545396 (OP)
I personally wouldn't have a problem with a low libido woman. I don't have such a big libido anymore, and even if I did, I could just jerk off to some porn or erotica.
It's not SEX SEX SEX that really motivates me anyway.

>>82549754
>don't have such a big libido anymore
Medical problem or just stopped working out/got fat?

>>82549773
Dunno really, I am overweight, but less so than before and I had higher libido back then. I guess age, late 20's.

>>82549777
That's still a young man wtf

>>82549777
Age, weight and cardio are the big three of libido, so....

>>82549794
I guess I should lose even more weight and do cardio.

>>82545396 (OP)
>>82546511
>>82545477
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE LMAO
I WONDER WHY THESE PEOPLE EVEN GET MARRIED AT ALL
OH WAIT NO I DON'T IT'S FOR MONEY, DINERO, AND C-C-C-C-CA$H THEY AREN'T CAPABLE OF HIGHER THOUGHT

*DRAGS CIGAR*
THIS IS WHY I MASTURBATE TO RYONA AND ANIME WOMEN

>>82545396 (OP)
My imaginary girlfriend has never denied me sex. She also enjoys every bit of physical contact, and she initiates it 95% of the time.

Skill issue.

>>82546511
Actions are not supposed to lead to sex. Sex just happens sometimes if the conditions are right, and you keep them that way by doing nice things with her (note that I didn't say "for her").
The problem is that with these women, the conditions are never right, so it becomes transactional, which also turns them off even more, and so it dies.

>>82546600
Same here

>have gf
>mind blowing sex every single weekend
>blowjobs boobjobs handjobs etc
>even puts on costumes to do it sometimes
>everything going great
>sign a lease with her and move in together
>sex stops IMMEDIATELY, as in, that same day
>"achtually I have a chronic health condition that I forgot to tell you about for the past 6 months that we've been dating, this condition makes it painful for me to have sex, also I can't work so I just stay in bed all day. No I don't have a diagnosis or had any type of studies done but I know I have it because my symptoms match what I've read on the internet. No, i won't seek treatment."
>politely explain that none of what she's saying makes any sense
>"achtuahlly I just have low libido okay? I'm not a very sexual person. never been."

Basically I got scammed, she just wanted to live with me was working and paying rent. She was never attracted to me.
I moved out after 6 months.

>>82546600
Post divorce men are the best fucks because they try so hard
>tfw getting lifted by post divorced fwb cuz all he did was train gym
Best type of man

>>82549854
>THIS IS WHY I MASTURBATE TO RYONA AND ANIME WOMEN
Cell would have to be the one saying this because Turles fucks.

>>82545396 (OP)
If intercourse doesn't have much meaning to her, she could just as well open up the relationship. Emotional bonding and intimacy cann still be exclusive between them.

>>82545560
Some people, especially those with asd, sad, bpd, and spd are prone to thinking themselves into a place where they disassociate from reality and seeing their own sexuality in a way where they feel unwanted then they overthink themselves into believing that the reason they can't find sex or a close partner is actually a part of who they are not something they tricked themselves into believing over a negative feeling that's grown way out of control. And because they have no outside reference and because therapy is user goal oriented they don't get told in a constructive way their thoughts and ideas and actions are dumb as hell and hurt the people around them when they do get into a relationship

>>82545477
>lmao, "I take care of CHAD's kids and buy him stuff with his own money, why is he so unhappy"

>>82546166
>tickle her.
Kill yourself

>>82545396 (OP)
I thought it was going to be reasonable like having sex once a week or something but once every 5 months is dysfunctional and she has a serious problem.

>>82550308
>Actions are not supposed to lead to sex. Sex just happens sometimes
Woman detected.

>>82550842
No, just a guy who knows how women think. They get the ick immediately if they think you're doing something in order to get sex.

>>82550849
... if they're not attracted to the guy. Women only get the ick from unattractive guys. I can almost guarantee that the husband in the OP is a 5.5/10 which she's grown bored with or perhaps he's gained a couple pounds. He might also be too loyal, not giving her any outside signals of his attractiveness, if he is attractive.

>>82546199
look these guys are lazy and kind of desperate otherwise the second your sexual partner stops wanting to have sex, you dump them and find a new sexual partner

dead bedroom stuff is always about married couples, or people with chronic illness, or people with stiff penalties for divorce for whatever reason (culture, legal contracts like pre nups). sex is a fundamental human need and the cornerstone of hetero relationships

all these guys SHOULD dump these women. they know instinctively that the only way out is through. they just.... don't. passivity, low self esteem, fear of change, it doesn't matter. they sacrifice their happiness to these frigid retarded women

and the worst thing is that if they break up, and she's "back on the market" she will find herself having sex again trivially and without any of this baggage. familiarity breeds contempt, and new relationship energy trumps EVERYTHING. she will be infatuated with a new man, she will forget literally every dumb half-formed thought she has about "not liking sex" when it's a fresh face full of possibility. women are a joke

Why is she playing stupid? She even understands people have sexual urges, but pretends like it's lost on her that this is the case.

>>82551047
Because she's not attracted to her husband. Not enough to risk it.

>>82551003
Yeah, obviously. Why would I bother to talk about hot guys? They don't need to know this shit. It's normal people who have to know about the hoops to jump through.

>>82545396 (OP)
"His" main mistakes:
- not making babies
- staying that long with a woman
- tolerating her stupid bullshit

Dumb bitch. You wouldn't want "bodily autonomy" if he were Chad. You'd be happy to be his fuckdoll.

>>82546166
Hello incel, sex haver here. You can cuddle, and then start humping/grinding on your partner, and if they reciprocate you have sex. Hope this helps

>>82551047
The main idea here is that sex is not a favor or a duty but a shared pleasure. She will not give sex to reward good behavior, and since she doesn't want it, she will not give sex at all.

>>82551124
This is a very modern opinion. For most of history, sex was considered a duty.

>>82550666>>82550666

right and these people somehow still get into relationships despite not wanting them

>>82551124
if a woman refuses sex often enough that you have an emotion stronger than "ok we'll fuck tomorrow" you should dump her. it's just that simple.

i won't force a woman to have sex, but she can't force me to stay with her either

>>82551043
I imagine for a lot of guys in this situation, the thing stopping them from dumping their gf/wife is the idea of never getting another partner. They'd rather put up with a person who obviously hates them than try out the brutality of the dating market again.

>>82551370
>the idea of never getting another partner
Which is exactly what happens for many of them

>>82551370
>>82551384
the only way out is through. change is scary, fear of loss makes them risk-averse but if you want to be happy you need to take the step. The last moment before the eggshell cracks, it looks pretty bleak for the baby bird. there's no more food, no more space, it all seems hopeless. and then...

you can ALWAYS find some ugly post-wall hag to fuck if that's your only goal. i don't hate these men, but i do pity them.

>>82546662
>And no, "just get a prenup" doesn't work, judges throw them out on a whim.
You need a double prenup, the foid has to have her own lawyer

>>82551384
Which would be better than what the poor guy has going on now. Stuck paying for a whole family that's not his, no sex, and a wife that hates him. What a life. He even gets the "perk" of being ALLOWED to game. Wow!

>>82549682
>With my ex, I used to literally look her in the eyes and ask her "do you want to have sex?", and it worked because we were very attracted to each other. The only explanation needed is attraction.
So why is she your ex then

>>82551108
>making babies
>with a 41 year old hag

>>82551482
Values disagreement.

>>82545477
women dont understand that men need to feel wanted.
she does things for him like he is a kid, and he clearly doesnt give a shit about such things

>>82546511
only if she is low libido
if she is high libido you will be fucking constantly

>>82551359
I completely agree. Many people forget that relationships are physical and sexual as well as emotional.

>>82551632
Trump voter?

>>82551684
>only if she is low libido
Women are all high libido for chad

>>82549429
>Oh well, he can always rub one out if he really needs to.
He can also go elsewhere for sex. I'd give up trying to light your ugly ass fire after the first month of no sex and cheat on your ass.

>>82546807
True. I married her when we were in our early 20s, before I was really established. But after I became established, she just stopped trying. Wanted to be a stay-at-home wife, but did no cleaning or cooking, and I was getting laid about once every 10 months or so.
>>82550417
Sorry that happened to you, anon. At least you didn't marry her and have to deal with anything beyond a lease.
>>82550431
I've been in the gym for about 6 months, but unfortunately I went a bit hard and am dealing with some mild sciatica. I just started lifting again this week, but at half weight with more reps.

>>82551760
I'm not American, my country's politics are much more esoteric.

>>82545396 (OP)
He deserves this. He willignly said this was fine in his head.

>>82552082
well it was a 50% chance. But then was it actually politics? Unfortunate.