Thread 82550529

Why aren't men obsessed with women anymore? What happened?

>>82550529 (OP)
women kinda fell of desu senpai

>>82550529 (OP)
"I just don't get it."
>is CHAD only
>ignores or treats the other 90%+ of men like shit

>>82550529 (OP)
Chads have too many options to get obsessed with anyone in particular.

>>82550541
yeah, it's like world of warcraft, kinda lost the charm I guess

>>82550529 (OP)
but I am obsessed with women, I'm obsessed with one particular woman in fact but that wasn't good enough for her apparently

>>82550529 (OP)
Because trannies better than foid

>>82550529 (OP)
>bpdemons vs spdemons
Lets gooooo

>>82550529 (OP)
it's not as if foids respond to what you do in a positive way. all they do is schlick over chad doing literally nothing or even bad things or try to get you arrested for giving them the ick. also chad has figured out that he can literally get away with anything now so that's why he just ghosts bitches and beats the shit out of them.

>>82550529 (OP)
Whores were never the object of obsession

>>82550529 (OP)
If you're obsessed with women you get called incel or simp

>I'm unpleasant to be around, and will literally never have sex with you
Wow, why are people flirting with trannies instead these days? It's so weird.

i loved a girl in 7th grade really bad and when we broke up in college i stopped caring

>>82550529 (OP)
As a wise Anon here once said foids see you either as a loser or asshole.

>>82550529 (OP)
ong i do not understand why boomers are such simps like bruh it's just pussy it really aint all that
there are way too many strings and risks attached too and i am not secure enough to be rolling dice on that shit

>>82550529 (OP)
I'm obsessed with women, but they must be cute and virgin
Imagine a blow out ugly bitch expecting men to be obsessed with them lol

>>82550529 (OP)
Women made obsessing over them a high effort, low reward (often no reward) proposition. As usual, they thought there would never be consequences for the things they do.

>>82550529 (OP)
>Why aren't men obsessed with women anymore?
Never were. For most of human history they were mostly treated like a resource.

>>82550529 (OP)
No they still are but we are in a post girlboss-feminisim society where men have been told their desire for women is sinful and icky so it is (badly) repressed.

Imagine being so shit that you break the biological conditioning that majes people want you simply for existing

>>82550934
Nah, men at their default can take it or leave it. It's not a big deal.

>>82550957
What is this paragraph from? Do you have the source?

Why did the natural language paradigm in philosophy fall apart? why is it it so fundamentally flawed?

>>82551463
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/198983230-selective-breeding-and-the-birth-of-philosophy

>>82550529 (OP)
Obsession is punished.

>>82550529 (OP)
Got brainwashed by MGTOW 4chan posts in my formative years.
I look at woman like they're gambling or hard drugs.

>>82550529 (OP)
Posted my story here b4. I flirted with a hispanic incel and he hated me and didn't get obsessed with me. he said I was ugly but I doubt that was the reason since men ghosted me for other reasons never because I was ugly. Not saying I'm attractive, I'm saying looks don't matter.

men just don't want women anymore, at least women they meet online

>>82550529 (OP)
Men are pornbrained/gay
And they have no recovery

>>82551561
what if the modern environment and the information age simply helped them to reach a more realistic understanding of female nature?

>>82551561
women think things like loyalty and kindness are gay

>>82550529 (OP)
Women became awful
Not really a big myserty

>>82550529 (OP)
Word on the street is these hoes ain't loyal

>>82550957
I'd argue without the coercive hand of the state and/or local community pushing people to get married and stay married it has a lot to do with women easily being able to walk away from existing relationships or just not form them to begin with do to hypergamy. This in turn leads to large numbers of apathetic males, the ones who can't easily copulate.

>>82551617
Women like hunky Chads and money.

>>82550529 (OP)
I can't remember the last time I spoke to a woman

>>82550529 (OP)

her bio checks out

>>82551561
men becoming more pornbrained/gay is a symptom, not the cause

Because its high risk low reward and I can watch porn and talk to AI girls instead. Fapping and sex is the same thing to me. The end result is the same

>>82550718
You can't live like you're 13 forever >>82552108
Wrong though. Have to take some responsibility somewhere

>>82552172
>AI girls instead
AI girls are great they're actually affectionate unlike real girls

>>82550529 (OP)
Anime girls are so much hotter than actual women.

>>82550957
Well put. Men are programmed by nature to sex and impregnate females not to be a oofy doofy father husband betabux provider. Religions and social norms were designed to gaslight men into being self sacrificial for the sake of women and children and war, now the spell is broken. As with female "liberation" you can't close Pandora's box once it's open. The genie is out of the bottle and atleast for Millennials and Zoomers theres no going back. Millennial roasties that haven't made their own fortune or trapped a rich faggot are screwed.

>>82552238
Yup. Besides touch starvation real women are worthless to deal with and most are fat, insane and full of stds and baggage now anyways.

>>82550529 (OP)
>why aren't men obsessed with whores?

>>82550529 (OP)
I had a woman love me once and her love language was making you jealous by flirting with other men and then ugly crying when you try to leave so yea kind of dead inside

>>82552226
yeah nigga that's called getting a job not a hoe

>>82550529 (OP)
I've been obsessed with 3 women and I told all of them and all of them cut ties with me. Thinking about it makes me burst into tears sometimes.

>>82550529 (OP)
I have not ever been obsessed with women as i found out i was bi sexual at a young age. Witch opened so many doors for me sexually that i never really cared about trying to get a girlfriend. If one did not come too me then i was not chasing . If they were the normal your gonna have to treat me like a princess and worship me. i was out. thankfully that shit changed over the years and now im like ah fuck it if one sticks around grate if not i can all ways find a guy or trans .. To date or have a bit of fun with.. I feel other guys had sim shit and got tired of the chasing and said fuck it. Easy mode lets date a trans or sissy as they do what i want and are starving for the attention. but this is just me and my opinion on this topic. so

>>82552924
pretty much every woman i meet ghosts instantly me unless she has to talk to me for work or something. been like this for decades

>>82552267
>Millennial roasties that haven't made their own fortune or trapped a rich faggot are screwed.
What about Zoomer roasties? Are they all screwed regardless?

They are
It's just the internet has made it that their obsession more concentrated into a few hundred women

>>82550529 (OP)
In my mid 20's I realized that I don't particularly care about sex and women.
Too bad I still care about having kids, so I can't really check out of the game fully.
People are just retarded.

>>82551941
almost 2 years for me. i just stay in my lane

>>82554336
same exact story bar for bar.

>>82551498
Based. Sounded like BAP. He is correct on this

>>82550529 (OP)
But i thought men were porn brained creeps who objectifies women and aren't satisfied with normie women? Make up your mind foids

>>82550529 (OP)
Women:
>spend two generations belittling average men
>telling them not to approach
>demanding chad only
>shitting on everyone who tries
>raising standards stupidly high
>developing ugly personalities stuffed to the brim with consumerism, narcissism, self-indulgence, laziness and worse
>refusing to fulfill their gender roles or even be asked to
>basically just being insufferable in 100 ways
>"wHy dOn'T mEn LiKe uS aNyMoRe"

>>82550529 (OP)
>Obsessed
Now this means begin evil rapist and creepy man.

>>82552992
This dating scene makes me fuckin WISH I wasn't straight for exactly this reason
>>82552924
That pic is how I found out SquEnix doesn't JUST do vidya

Are there any women like Colby anymore?

>>82555724
yes, plenty of women are larping as good when they are really bad

>>82550529 (OP)
dunno, maybe because even reasonable standards are way too hard for modern women to fulfill and less than 10% actually fit the bill, while probably >60% of our grandfathers married women like those.
Req:
>BMI < 30
> 18 < Age < 30
>Not a whore / marriage material / bodycount = 0
>Looks > 3/10
Like those are just the bare fucking minimum, literally >90% of women are fucking born and will automatically fulfill those requirements. All they have to do is not eat like a whale and not be a whore and they are perfect waifu material, yet apparently nearly all of them decide to either such Subways footlong or Tyrones footlong before thinking about marriage.

>>82550529 (OP)
One side being obsessed with the other doesn't look very equal to me
>>82550957
"Men's" duty and responsibility doesn't look very equal to me

>>82550529 (OP)
I still get obsessed with some women but she has to be one-in-a-thousand-tier special and single me out for some kind of attention

>>82550529 (OP)
The irony is if you pay attention to them too much they lose interest. It's like a cat, the best way to get their attention is to ignore them assuming they're into you. The logic being that if a guy shows too much interest, it means his day isn't filled with more important things.

She'll complain but that's part of their shit test. They'll never admit but they lowkey want a guy who talking to so many girls that he forgets she exists because girls want what other girls want.

>>82550529 (OP)
women became fat gross monsters

>>82550529 (OP)
I got used to being alone. I'm on my 25's now as with any romantic interaction with women, it is natural I would get used to it.

>>82550529 (OP)
why would they be
men are given a raw deal, women don't genuinely like men

>>82550529 (OP)
I discovered fox girls

>>82550529 (OP)
Normies are finally moving to waifus, AI girlfriends and femboys

i go on dating apps and get 1 like and never find them. most likely fake. 32 now, never had sex or been with any woman ever. no im not obese, and i go to the gym and have an decent looking body, I just don't have a lot of capital.

I just smile, guess we stopped caring.

>>82550529 (OP)
I realized that my lifelong obsession with vidya games is far more rewarding and doesn't judge me (nor do they accuse me of anything).

>>82550529 (OP)
Most people get tired of other people acting like toddlers eventually

>>82550529 (OP)
They either proudly or spitefully made themselves ugly in appearance + behavior or they're unavailable for a list of reasons even if you get the relationship. >>82551561
>>82552226
Not only do women also get off to porn and use weird toys on top of getting their holes stretched by various men but they'll do more damage to men in relationships than porn will. Women don't want to have sex with men consistently if at all especially in ltr and weaponize it. Why do retards complaining about porn leave out women's use of it and pretend women are available or reliable for real sex? You have no solutions and encourage worse behavior than porn addiction but keep bitching. Offer something of worth or shut the fuck up already.

>>82553910
A lot of it isn't even real life women anymore. But the women have been fake physically and socially for ages so it doesn't mean too much at this point.

>>82550628
Thats so sad :( you guys were childhood sweethearts.

I am obsessed with only one woman, I do not need or want the rest

>>82557874
>A lot of it isn't even real life women anymore
E girls had exploded in popularity. Look at twitch. A lot of young dudes are just coping with a few e girls. Women irl do not even cross their mind.

>>82557888
That college dick was calling her name like countless other women kek

>>82550529 (OP)
I am obsessed with women. The problem is they have standards that I do not meet and I have standards they don't meet

They want
>6'4, chiselled jawline, 15 percent body fat "dad bod", bodybuilder physique born of manual labour
>$150k a year or more, with enough holidays and time to dedicate to her every whim
>The desire and ability to prioritise European and Asian travel twice a year
>Emotional availability while simultaneously passing every shit test with flying colours
>Political alignment
>Unique self expression and a deep sense of confidence

I want
>No retarded self expression navel gazing bullshit, including tattoos, dumb piercings, dumb hair, all of it can absolutely leave me alone.
>Someone who calls me out on my shit and has a bit of attitude, but is overall very good natured and not combative over nothing
>Doesn't want children
>Loves to talk, do drugs, drink a lot

I'm 28 and I'm aware that I'm never going to even find someone who meets all my standards, and I know that every girl dreams of someone way better than me. My sexuality has been moulded by this even as a teenager, I don't even find objectively attractive girls pretty, I just glaze over them and start looking at 2-4/10 girls. I've chosen to settle for a depressed femcel who loves me, is a total cunt and is obsessed with body modification because it's what I can get. Her sexuality has also been moulded by what she can get, and she had to learn to be attracted to me because I'm better than what she expected.

She is annoyed sometimes that I'm not obsessed with her, but what am I meant to do? What is she meant to do? Be alone your entire life and live in envy of what could have been?

>>82552226
>Have to take some responsibility somewhere
>Have
Why? Can you explain that?
I mean people take up the responsibilities of doing their job and paying their monthly bills because they need that to live, but more than that? Why take more responsibilities?
I flee from responsibilities like the Devil flees from the cross, I don't want more problems than the ones I already have.

>takes over a year to find any retail job
>cant get any training, not even at a chicken fry place
>barely get 8 hours a week
>get pushed out by senior waiters, senior cashiers, because they want your hours
i dont know how people afford cars. let alone make enough to date. i lowered my standards. if i can afford snacks ill be in a good mood. just all i can realistically afford. ive seen shopping cart pushers scream at the supervisor, demanding my hours

I realized that I just wanted to make pretty clothes for ball joint dolls, which are a good stand with dealing with women in general. lost interest in women ever since.

People are working for more and getting less in real wages as we slowly return to serfdom. Men and Women both have unrealistic expectations of eachother driven by social media and pornography, and expect instant gratification not long courtship processes.

I've fucked women. I made them cum so hard they started shaking like they had a seizure for 15 seconds. I had weak or no orgasms in return. I had way better orgasms jerking off to hentai while high.

The only real reason you need to get with a woman is that after a certain age you start seeing your single bachelor friends disappear and if you don't get hitched up people won't really want to hang out with you as a third wheel.

>>82552794
Because the whores don't actually fuck them. If all men had all the sex they want for free, they'd be obsessed with whores.

>>82558147
Yeah, then your gf doesn't want to go out and do anything aside from specifically what she wants. She monopolizes your time so that any activity you want to do is now spent with her watching dumb TV or similar

This is a universal for literally every woman I've dated

>>82558003
You should just go to a foreign country. You'll instantly go to a 8/10 if you're not hideous and have at least avg income. In places like Eastern Europe, the women outnumber the men so they're actually kind of desperate. It's the same in Asia and South America. The problem with the US is the environment gives women the advantage and pussy is very expensive but abroad it's the opposite.

Most guys can get a 7/10 pretty easily but you just have to make sure you don't fall for their tricks. A lot of them are looking to get your money but if you're aware of that you can still enjoy the perks. Unless you're a Chad, love is transactional everywhere but at least you getting a good value.

>>82550529 (OP)
Whores aren't worth simping

I think it's basically what this anon is experiencing >>82550561
People don't want to settle so the dudes at the high end of the SMV manage situationships, women can't lock down a proper relationship and the rest of the guys are either ignored or not interested in the women that might give them a chance. Also isolation and social retardation probably.

>>82551561
What is pornbrained? Is it jsut thinking that all women are hyeprsexual and wanting to fuck 24/7? I feel like women like hypersexualality

>>82550529 (OP)
I'm focusing on self improvement over putting anyone on a pedestal. I know someone who's girlfriend broke up with them recently because he wanted to be a man child and she got tired of his shit. Now he's trying to put her on a pedestal and she just wants space. Guy is gonna end up homeless sooner rather than later.

>>82552820
that's gaslighting. I'm sorry that you ran into a Narcissist

>>82558003
>>Doesn't want children
What's the point of living with a woman then.

>>82558409
>because he wanted to be a man child
What does that mean exactly?

>>82558147
>Men and Women both have unrealistic expectations

The real issue is that zoomer men dont love PUSSY. That's the epidemic. There are no PUSSY LOVERS. When I was a teen we all wanted to touch, fuck, lick pussy. When we were going to clubs, if one of your boys said "smell my fingers" we knew its because they were down some whores snatch. All these little faggot men grew up looking at nakie ladies and didnt spend enough time obsessing over pussy.

Instead you queers have nigger instincts where you like big nasty asses. What kind of straight men like ass. Men have asses too faggot. Stop looking for a watermelon booty and start thinking about PUSSY and big floppy titties.

>>82559043
>t. pimp going out of business

i am genuinely obsessed with women, i love looking at them and admiring their beauty. i want to talk with them and kiss them and fuck them. i love women and i live from the attention they give me. sadly they don't seem to think that about me, they only get creeped out when i exhibit genuine obsession over them so i'm assuming the woman in OP only wants chad to approach them and not have anyone be actually obsessed over them.

>>82558602
He quit a job where they both worked and where she's a manager because the Head Manager told him to clock out and continue to work to close the restaurant down for the night. He spent the last several years not working, streaming on twitch, sperging out when he does bad at video games and then wonders why she's fed up with him. He only just recently got another job in the hopes of being able to win her back, but I doubt they'll get back together. He still thinks that his twitch will take off, but the truth is, if it does, he'll just end up like a lolcow like Wings of Redemption or DarkSyde Phil. The guy is a lazy leech and probably always will be. He just recently led a convicted pedophile back into his friend group and I'm considering distancing myself from them.

That explains the male loneliness epidemic

>>82550529 (OP)
Because it's been made socially illegal to express interest.

>>82559132
And when I say streaming on twitch, I don't mean with a set schedule or anything like that, it's whenever he feels like it, and only plays whatever anime/capeshit game is popular at the time. Like, yeah people flock to popular games, but personalities and consistency is more important. No one wants to watch someone who only bitches and moans while playing whatever slop is popular. And if he isn't streaming, he's spending nearly all the time on his Playstation or smoking weed. The guy is in his early 30s and never sees his kid that he had with someone else because he hasn't gotten his life together.

>>82559132
>>82558409
this is literally just normal mammal behavior

>>82550529 (OP)
Men just got burned too many times and no longer believe in the fairy tale version of women. The fact that only a tiny amount of guys can make a girl wet by her just looking at them means that she will be a dead fish to most of her sexual partners. They also lean too much on their looks with makeup and cute clothes to develop an interesting personality, so Chad pumps and dumps her, which makes everything worse.

>>82559197
Putting anyone on a pedal is idiotic. You are stupid for thinking so. I don't give a fuck about women or sex, I just want to live my life and have peace and quiet. You go idolize some bitch and see how far and long that gets you. I'll focus on my career and making money.

>>82559219
No, I mean the guy abandoning his kid and doing fuck all. That's perfectly normal and natural and it's how women want to live.

>>82550529 (OP)
Women are straight-up whores, and that doesn't give them much appeal, and I think normies (like fucking always with how fucking retarded they are always picking up things late) are starting to realize that simping is a bad thing and has no benefit or desirable outcome.

>>82559222
Oh I see. Eh, his ex mother of his child is a dumb bitch that hits her kids, so it's not like she'll keep custody of her kids for very long.

The worst possible trait a man can possess is being nice. Women have explicitly made their disgust very apparent. Most men are nice, just regular people trying to get by and at the least follow the golden rule or something extremely similar. When judging solely by looks women rate over 85% of men as less attractive than half of men.
It seems kind of pointless to want women. Or at least it's about as productive as wanting to do all the things a spider can.

>>82550529 (OP)
The last girl I spoke to told me I was like a brick wall despite me trying to ask questions about her. They don't help themselves

>>82550529 (OP)
Why should I be obsessed over someone who hates me? Girls see men as nothing but dangerous animals. I am nothing more than shrodinger's rapist to her. I'm "disgusting" and objectifying for having any sort of physical attraction to women. I am entirely disposable and replaceable to them. They show nothing but contempt to my gender, so why should I be any sort of obsessed with them?

>>82550796
It's not high effort though. It's only high effort for non-chads. Which is why I don't obsess over women. I'm not working hard for a woman who gave herself away for free, to multiple dudes. Careermaxxing and the gym is just a repackaged beta provider lifestyle where you compete for a woman, who already fucked a bunch of men for less effort, simply because she found them attractive while you jump through hoops.
There is no romance in the relationship, no self respect, nothing. So why bother?

>>82550529 (OP)
>Why aren't men obsessed with women anymore? What happened?
It's pointless to care about foids when they consider us non-Chads to be totally unfuckable.
Therefore, dealing with foids at all is completely futile. Now there is an incel boom, that is essentially gender separatism.
All good news for the small hats, naturally.
>>82550552
SPBP

>>82558147
>Men and Women
Aren't the same. Women are overrated and men are underrated. Women want a rich guy who's tall and handsome but think being expected not to be a fat whore is too much even though it's much easier. When expecting the women to fuck you regularly, not become grossly fat and reciprocate loyalty is seen as unrealistic the problem is the women not the standards.

>>82559043
It was basically illegal for any nonchad to have sex after like 2014, and its weird to talk about HS but it was true at that age. Very few people in my grad class lost virginities until Jr/Sr year

>>82558193
Do you even know what simping means?

>>82562051
Incel lingo for treating women with the respect they deserve

>>82550529 (OP)
>hate women
>become prison gay
>realise fags are the same as women
>still can't be asexual
What now?

>>82550529 (OP)
>Access to own porn collection + the internet. Can fap to incredibly beautiful women any time I want. Costs nothing and requires little effort.
>Women available to me are boring to talk to and don't look anywhere near as good as the ones I fap to. The ones that look good don't give a shit about me as I'm not Chad.
>The people I know who have gfs and wives complain about it a lot. To the point where I realise I don't actually want to be with a woman except for having someone to fuck and cuddle with. But I can just masturbate, it's much easier.
>Never wanted to marry and have kids. Those things would make me very poor and constantly stressed and overworked.
There's just nothing that 99% of women can offer me that I can't do by myself. And becoming attractive to women requires too much effort, time and spending for my liking. In simple terms, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. There are way more downsides to courting and being with a woman than there are upsides.

cause everything we do is apparently a problem according to the harpies on social media

>>82562651
It's not just on social media. They just have social media to bitch on too.

>>82562060
Women don't even respect themselves. That's why they're never virgins or otherwise chaste and waiting for these good men they claim to want.

>>82562868
Women just bitch constantly. It's literally all they do when they're not having fun. It's insufferable. Like their only two modes of existing are "omg yass" and "ugh".