Thread 82561251

Gen X and millenials already got in, so they just brag about how they're the jobhaver caste, essentially. Being a gen Z is the worst luck possible. We're the last of the scammed generations where we went to college for absolutely nothing. Gen alpha isn't going to even consider college for a moment.
Go try applying to a job for fun. Seriously, try it. Wanna waste an entire day? You might as well wake up at 5pm and play video games and jerk off all night. End result is that you still don't have a job.

>good luck having your back broken by 40 bro
Yep. We're the "toolbelt generation" not because we think the trades have always been our scheme to make money, but because it's literally the only feasible way to get a few dollars. You're just deriding me for being sold into slavery at this point lol.

>>82561251 (OP)
I'm GenX. I've been working as a software engineer for the past two decades. I work for a great, local company that treats us right, pays slightly above the local average, has a bonus program, an equity sharing program, and unlimited PTO. I was sent to a job fair at a large, local university you have probably heard of if you're American to talk to the soon-to-be graduates about coming to work for us as interns and junior devs. We're desperate for them.

I got some interest from a few, but almost to a one they all plan on working for Google, META, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, Open AI, etc. It's easy to begin to believe that there are no jobs when you're so status obsessed and so intent on acquiring a million in equity before 25 that you're going to compete with the entire world for a handful of jobs at just half a dozen companies on the other side of the country. And your struggle is compounded by the fact that, right or wrong, HR and middle-tier management at those companies has been captured by indians who have zero intention of hiring quality, competent people and instead will only hire indians.

In my city, it's not that there are no jobs. There are actually quite a few. It's that everyone who graduates from our very high-end universities is convinced they're too good to work for their hometown companies. This creates a recruiting problem for us. But it also creates a problem for these young people who haven't yet come to grips with the fact that they're, by and large, just not good enough to work for FAANG's. And those companies have all been captured by indians anyway.

>>82561340
Translation:
>I'm Gen X and of the jobhaver caste as you describe. My job is fucking great and you don't have it. I work in mystery corp and I do mystery things.
>We're desperate for work. This is why we don't hire you.
>Actually, every jobhaver like me in the city is the same too! We're all desperate for all the young hard workers with no experience. That's why none of us have any.

>>82561393
>>We're desperate for work. This is why we don't hire you.

Why would they hire some lay about jobless fuck who is hell bent on doing as little as possible all while acting like they are somehow better than everyone else?

Just stick to jerking off all day and consuming slop in all its forms for the rest of your life, THATS the smart move lmao

Everything about labour is about filtering for normos or bootlickers. The more rough around the edges you are, the more you get pushed out to the periphery and expected to to pan shit for pennies.
THE ULTIMATE test of whether you will ultimately be accepted by society is the retail test. If you can get a retail job as a young person, you're fine. This applies to almost every job except cook actually. Cook is basically a job for people who would otherwise have no job- and waiter is for the prettier people to profit handsomely off such misfortune.

>>82561251 (OP)
amateur, don't you dare compare yourself to us again

>>82561340
>>82561432
please stop embarrassing yourself

>>82561251 (OP)
the only way to get a job is through connections. thats why you should beg family for ins. thats how i got a job this week that im actually excited for.
>>82561340
this is absolute garbage. i was solely focused on applying to the smallest local stuff and i never heard back from any of that shit even data entry or temp work. and i went to a nice college. these people say theyre hiring but theyre lying or they want some cream of the crop student with 6 internships at amazon and 6 certs already w prior work history for thier entry level jobs. fuck you.

>>82561393
Is that what you took from what I wrote? We want to hire you. We need to hire you. But the GenZ-ers are all just holding out for that full-remote, $350k job with the 20% bonus structure they'll never get.

>>82561494
How am I embarrassing myself? By pointing out that I went to a job fair at a major university with the intention of hiring several people to work at a billion dollar, public company which is the biggest operator in our industry and a bunch of 20 year olds were like, "Nah. I can do better."

>>82561511
>cream of the crop student with 6 internships at amazon
Anon, the last intern we hired was a single mom with zero experience who went to a state school. But she had a degree in Computer Science. She was happy to have the gig and she's killing it. Has it occurred to you that perhaps you're not nearly as good as you think you are?

>>82561521
nta, but personally I don't believe people aren't applying to work at your job

>>82561521
>How am I embarrassing myself?
by having a melty because someone called you out on your petty humblebragging disguised as encouragement

>>82561534
No one cares what you believe.

>>82561542
I'm not having a meltdown. You can't just accuse someone of having a meltdown because they put you in your place.

>>82561521
>Has it occurred to you that perhaps you're not nearly as good as you think you are?
im a recent grad with no work experience, it's not easy to have a standout resume. but yes i am that good. hard working dedicated, eager to learn, and very capable. any organization would be lucky to have a skilled individual like myself.
but it doesnt matter now im working on getting a bunch of certs like comptia security and aws stuff.
and i have a job now that im excited for so im getting work experience now.

>>82561549
>No one cares what you believe.
ok, keep larping like a retard then

>>82561472
>all you had to do was let me eat the avocado toast in peace

>>82561549
i can practically taste your seethe through the screen unc, you are FUMING

>>82561567
>and i have a job now that im excited for so im getting work experience now.
Good for you. How you described yourself is how everyone else at your level also describes themselves. It's probably true. But it's also true for most of everyone else who says the same thing about themselves. Young people think "standing out" means telling everyone how great they are.

>>82561576
Sure thing, champ.

>>82561432
>I'm desperate for workers
>Why would I hire some lay about jobless fuck

>>82561521
>We want to hire you. We need to hire you. I have a billion dollars and I need to hire fresh blood.
>Gen Z applies
>Anon talks to Gen Z online
>"Nah, I can hire better."

>>82561472
Nice little arts and crafts pity project from your apartment that you got from your job, millennial, must be nice to be in the jobhaver caste

>>82561511
>even data entry or temp work
Holy fuck that stung
I was just browsing through it yesterday
If you're not a woman or a foreigner they can outsource to, don't even bother

>>82561583
Ok. There's a famous David Foster Wallace quote: "You will become way less concerned with what other people think of you when you realize how seldom they do."

>>82561584
yeah you probably get a hundred recent grad resumes and they all look literally the same. it's just tough to not start getting butthurt about all the rejections

>>82561600
>>"Nah, I can hire better."
This is almost always the case. But you balance what you need with what you can get now. You're never going to get the perfect candidate. And the candidate will never get the perfect job. But you compromise where you must to get the people you need to get the work done.

>>82561251 (OP)
>millennials got in
no we didn't, the great recession fucked us over hard

>>82561605
I never had any trouble as a recent grad. But I also put my pilot license, Army service, and mountain climbing on my resume too. Luckily I had interests outside of sitting around and playing vidya that I could leverage to demonstrate that, not only was I willing to put in the work, I am quite literally to do things that might kill me.

>>82561633
yeah i would hire the person w a pilot license and army service over someone with nothing but a degree

>>82561632
They have no idea how fucking wrecked everything was back then. I was laid off 3 months after I closed on my first house. Laid off two more times in the 4 months after that layoff. And ultimately spent about 9 months jobless. It seriously fucked my career too but somehow I managed to gut it out.

>>82561601
Oh, what's that, a millionaire Pulitzer Prize winner felt happy with himself? wow

>>82561251 (OP)
I went to uni for STEM and now work a medical career. The whole "college degrees are useless" thing is caused entirely by people entering fields that have no demand or entering fields that have way too much supply. Meanwhile in healthcare: permanently increasing demand with a permanently shrinking supply. If you're an unemployed 20-something year old in 2025 it's quite literally a skill issue and you likely have zero skills that couldn't be taught to a high schooler or an immigrant in one work week.

>>82561656
He killed himself. So I don't think he was doing all that great personally.

>>82561662
are you doing stem stuff in the medical field or did u completely switch over after graduating to like a doctor or a nurse or something

>>82561670
the fuck is a gerund? i'd kill myself too

>>82561670
Maybe he shouldn't have cared so much what people thought about him

>>82561678
He's larping.

>>82561632
>no we didn't
>>82561647
>I had a job to be laid off from and I had a house that I bought above my means. Then I got two more jobs. Then I spent 9 months jobless! It seriously fucked me over, but I managed to get another job!

>I had a girlfriend and she dumped me! Then I had two more girlfriends. Then I spent 9 months single! But at least I managed to gut it out and have been going steady since. I'm an incel btw

>>82561678
>are you doing stem stuff in the medical field
I'm a medical laboratory scientist. I never see patients. ALL medical jobs are in extreme demand and yet young people are like "omg no jobs!" Bunch of fucking idiots. The population of stupid old dying people is a number that never shrinks.

>>82561722
My life absolutely sucked for about 18 months. My kids had to go without Christmas presents. We had to eat a whole lot of beans and rice and shit from the food pantry. Imagine being a veteran, a university graduate, and going down to the poor house to ask for some food so your kids have something to eat. So go ahead and fuck yourself. This is why I have zero sympathy for you entitled retards.

>>82561921
My life absolutely sucked for about 18+5 years
I have no chance of having kids and have never touched a woman
I have ramen for dinner in my parents' house
Literally my only luxury is that my parents aren't soulless enough to kick me out

>Imagine being a university graduate and being poor
:p lol
>This is why I have zero sympathy for you entitled retards.
Why would you pretend to waste the effort? You wouldn't have it regardless. You have all the experience and all the jobs. You are the jobhaver caste. You look over us like a duke looks over peasant rabble.

This nigger gets to start a family and have multiple jobs meanwhile I get pandemic lockdown college and then chat gpt nuclear fallout job market lol. If only I had been born sooner even by 5 years holy shit I might have had a chance.

>>82561251 (OP)
I got a high paying STEM job and i'm still in uni. Just be the one of the best few students in your generation and impress your professors. Network. Have a public github repo where you save all your projects and link it on your student page. A job will literally fall into your lap if you're good enough.

>>82562052
Wow sounds like you would qualify for the kinds of entry level jobs I apply to

>>82561472
You at least have an income.

>>82561993
>If only I had been born sooner even by 5 years holy shit I might have had a chance.
No. You'd still be a loser. The pandemic was nothing compared to the GFC. not even close. I changed jobs twice during the pandemic for a 100% rise in pay. During the global financial crisis, there were zero jobs. Zero. Period. So stop feeling sorry for yourself, differentiate yourself from the herd, and land a gig. Or, is it your position that you're entitled to what I had because, like the other anon in the thread, you write the words, "I'm a motivated self-starter and learn new things quickly!" on your useless resume? Talk is cheap. Work is hard. And it is much harder for you guys than me. But the fact that you have it harder than me doesn't mean I had it easy you useless little fuck.

>>82562052
>A job will literally fall into your lap if you're good enough.
This is correct. Everyone goes to university these days. No one cares. You have to stand out. Put in work you won't get paid for. Be passionate about something. Don't just say you're passionate about it. Actually be passionate about it. Learn a niche. There are 10 billion indians who can write shitty Python code. There are 0 indians who understand the nuance of things like EFT and ACH transactions, ISO 8583 Card Transactions, or healthcare claims.

Don't just be a "programmer." Be an engineer. And this requires you to be a subject matter expert in a particular, in-demand business niche.

>>82562536
We're talking about me, not you buddy boyo.
>I changed jobs twice during the pandemic for a 100% rise in pay.
So I hear a lot of millennials and Gen Xers did. You guys flippantly brag about it all the time. But you guys already got in. You have experience. It's like a 6'5 chad telling me to just put myself out there lol.

>And it is much harder for you guys than me.
Kek admission accepted
It must have started to sound ridiculous even on your end

>>82562570
You could live on a store of soup, rice and lentils, autodidact for 8hours a day for 2-3 years in addition to enrolling in community college and taking the maximum amount of credit hours each semester in the hardest engineering course you can qualify for, post literally every assignment and project to github and meticulously review your resume every week, and you will get passed over on an entry level job for a millennial who has 3 years of professional experience and you're back to where you started.

>You have to stand out.
I.e.: have the right parents and the right friend group going into college and pay the fraternities for access to their cheating materials, then know the right people to have access to the technical interview questions for the role you want.

>>82562570
Yeah, exactly. Soooo many people expect to just sit through a few classes, learn Python and JavaScript 101 then get a 6 figure salary strsight out of uni. Do you know how many people i know who are doing their masters and have enver used git? Want to be "web developers" (lol) but don't know what REST is? Fucking pick a niche, ANY niche. From freshman year i knew i needed to be an actual computing engineer, not a fucking code monkey. I studied deep learning, made projects on toy datasets, meta heuristics, evolutionary optimisation, GPU parallelisation, statistical learning, IN MY FREE TIME. And now i have people who don't know what vi or git are telling me "wow you got so lucky, nobody is responding to MY emails". Fuck off. The days of being a bottom of the barrel code monkey are over. Actually GIT gud.

>>82562735
Ok so for the role "computing engineer"
I just need to
>deep learning
>make projects on "toy datasets" "meta heyristics" "evolutionary optimisation" "GPU parallelisation" "satistical learning"
And then magically a job appears? Asking for any lurkers ITT in college because I'm not going back. I'll teach English in Vietnam or something and at least enjoy the weather while being a permapoorfag. Fuck this

>>82562781
Also have perfect grades, get dean's awards, and volunteer to help professors with projects and research. And some luck as well. One of my professors recommended me to one of his friends when he told him he was looking for someone to fill a spot in one of his teams. I thought that professor hated me, too. Lol. You need to enter uni already knowing what you will be doing for the next 4-5 years. Not fucking around going to parties and shit. I mean, you CAN, if you have rich parents with great connections. Otherwise strap in. Good luck in vietnam man. Watch out for those foxholes.

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