Thread 82745005

Don't blow my high, DO NOT NARCAN.

How easy is it to get a secondhand high from weed with no tolerance buildup?

>>82745052
I'd only expect it to work if you're shotgunning a full breath of smoke or are hotboxxing a car/small room. That being said you can still get traces of cannabinoids on your clothes and hair pretty easily.

besides IV, what's the best ROA for heroin

>>82745005 (OP)
/drugfeel/, anons, I'm thinking about quitting this drug world. I still have a slight urge to use drugs. The last time I used drugs was three weeks ago or so. I feel like I don't need it anymore. I don't want to waste my time, money, and energy on drugs anymore. I think maybe I'll live a drug-free life from now on, or maybe not. Maybe I'll relapse and start using again.

>>82745005 (OP)
What's the best drug to die on?
Like what will give me the best high while minimizing any risk of becoming a vegetable or addict after?

>>82745973
Just jump from a high place.
You will feel a lot of pain, but it will only last 1 second.

>>82745926
o7. Also if you ever do use again, consider viewing it as "I have only used X times in Y time frame" rather than "I relapsed and have reset my streak to only X days" because the latter is a pessimistic view.

I've never done a single drug for recreational reasons but I love hearing stories about peoples' experiences on them. CG Kid made great drug experience videos but deleted his whole channel, and Bat Country does great ones about alcohol.

What do you guys like to do after getting high? Of course, besides coming here and complaining. I like to read and listen to music, especially after doing coke.

>>82746270
have sex.... i get super horny after smoking some

>>82746270
I like cooking mexican food while stoned on weed

Why does taking a nap on meth make my high feel different? Usually I feel nothing at 1st but doing something like walking kicks it and I get amped up and laser focus but then afterwards I get really scattered and lost but if I manage to sleep I get more of a fuzzy eurphoric kind of numb feeling with waves of nostalgia. Pooping feels weird and my stomach feels closed off so its difficult to eat but when I can it calms me a bit. My minds eye becomes more active and I feel like I hear people talking about me and sometimes even their thoughts but I tell myself its not real.

>>82746270
Masturbation is always fun no matter what I'm on. Other than it's just the usual of browsing websites, watching youtube, listening to music, playing video games, studying if I'm functional, and chatting with people; though the last one is often combines with masturbation. I used to attend university while under the influence but it wasn't sustainable so I cut down on my drug use as much as possible. I also used to do drugs to socialize but at some point I became very withdrawn with my drug use and socializing sober felt better so I don't do much of that now.

>>82746494
>having sex
kekeke

>>82746645
i dont deny being a creature of impulse
https://youtu.be/LctZQjtTKs0

>>82745005 (OP)
Yeah. Fuck narcan and fuck junkies. Pieces of shit I expect all of them OD.

>>82745926
I've been there. nothing I want more rn than a whiff of ketamine. I wish I had the money for it rn, Unfortunately I'm unemployed. God, how I miss special K
Just take a long t break every time your stash runs out lol.
If you rly wanna quit doe, gl, nona. Rooting for you!

what good medicines can i get from a doctor if i tell them i am always tired?

>>82747202
Nothing. Stimulants are rarely prescribed for narcolepsy anymore thanks to junkies.

>>82745005 (OP)
>heroin
>meth
>cocaine
Damn you guys are on the hard stuff. Do you even get it tested? I think the only illicit drug I want to buy at the moment is LSD.

>>82747285
They are. He just has to make up a lie like "I can't focus" or "people say I talk too fast" so his doctor thinks he has ADHD.

>>82747285
what about modafinil ?

>>82747296
It takes forever to get an adhd diagnosis. Most people are diagnosed with every meme diagnoses and are placed on countless ssris and mood stabilizers for years before the light bulb clicks on.

>>82747392
they have me on zoloft and zyprexia
and its not that good

>>82747399
I hated being on zoloft. It was the worst ssri i was on. I was on so many mood stabilizers like geodon, abilify, seroquel, lamictal, and depakote. None of that shit worked. It wasn't until I mentioned something about my clutter at home and having zero motivation to clean it up because it was overwhelming just to look at it, things clicked. He had my parents come in and they confirmed it along with showing pictures and video. Got out on a trail of Adderall, and it worked.

It fucking sucked knowing I was diagnosed incorrectly fir years going through so many mood stabilizers thaf did absolutely nkthing but cause negative side effects.

i love how comical some h dealers are, this is turkish btw
what's the funniest press you've seen?

>snorted straight 2c-b
God DAMN it hurts, it's like pouring vodka up your nose (I've never done that but I assume that's what it would feel like)

10/10 would do again

does anyone know how much time you should take for breaks so you dont get tolerance for Gabapentin this shit feels nice

whats the best ssri for anxiety

>>82749132
>ssri for anxiety

>>82749132
>ssri for anxiety
To make it worse, or...?

>>82749152
they gave me Zoloft for anxiety didnt really help
Benzos are nice but cant use everyday

>>82749157
Try cognitive behavioral therapy, and only use benzos for panic attacks.

>>82749157
Unfortunately there isn't really any drug I've found that can help with anxiety without horrible side effects (like benzos), it's not worth it to try and self-medicate your mental illness with drugs
>t. fellow anxiety sufferer

>>82749258
oh damn that sucks yeah I have read nightmare stories from people who have taken benzos for a longtime

Best thing to do with some buddies while drunk in the back yard?

>>82746645
Your picrel is the only source of happiness, nothing else even comes remotely close.
hobbies and passions are for normalfags, give me an oxy pill that I'll crush up on my nightstand and snort with a dollar bill, nothing else and no one else can bring me that feeling of being content with infinite limbo.

>>82747286
>cocaine
YES!

>>82749258
I love qualudes bro

>>82747286
>meth
>Damn you guys are on the hard stuff
It's pretty gentle on me, just a strong stim; nothing like MDMD's stim experience, just a stim effect without the added bullshit. No out-of-your-mind stuff that psychedelics do.
>Do you even get it tested?
No, I don't have acccess to test kits, but I get crystal shards so it's not cut with anything.
>I think the only illicit drug I want to buy at the moment is LSD
Some of my most insane highs were on LSD. It's demanding physically and mentally and cripples your motorics. That said, it's one of my favorite drugs.

>>82747392
NTA.
>It takes forever to get an adhd diagnosis
It depends. I go to a private pychiatrist and said I tried a Ritalin pill from a friend and it helped me. She wrote me a Ritalin script with an ADHD diagnosis that day. No furthur questions asked.
Private medicine is the best medicine.

>>82749132
>whats the best ssri for anxiety
Just go for benzos, thry're a life saver for anxiety havers. Only use them in anxiety inducing situations and you'll be fine.

>>82749258
pregabalin
even when i used it at least every other day for months in a row and went through 80 grams of the stuff in total the withdrawals were minimal, less uncomfortable than a medium hangover
>>82750233
>Only use them in anxiety inducing situations and you'll be fine.
that is exactly the problem when every situation is anxiety inducing, sure you can try to save them for the especially bad ones but if you are like me without any self control benzos just don't work
...or well they do but having had to go through the withdrawals they are simply not worth it for me and when i got off them 2 years ago i made a promise to myself to never touch them again and so far i've kept it

>>82749291
I took between 1 and 2 mg of lorazepam for about 6 weeks and getting off them wasn't that bad, I just had trouble sleeping mostly. That is a small dose, but that's really all I needed to control panic attacks and agitation from anxiety.

>>82747392
Just spend $300 or more on a private doctor and you'll even get to choose if you want 30mg, 40mg, or 50mg doses of Vyvanse to start with

I've got some phenibut what can I expect? Also i've heard it goes well with psychs, does it ease the anxiety a little or just dull the whole trip?

>>82751812
It's a gabapentinoid and gaba B agonist. Expect mild sedation and relaxation, especially in regards to anxiety and overthinking.
>with psychs
Can't say myself but generally small amounts of GABAergics can ease them and big amounts can mute them.

>do opioids at 9 pm
>be high for 6 hours
>tolerance break for 18 hours
>repeat
is this sustainable?

>>82753173
highly doubt it even with opioids that have shorter half lifes and even if you were only high for half that time every day
doing anything every day will build tolerance in my experience, even nicotine or a few drinks for sleep and opioids are a different beast anyway
keep it to once a week and if you really need to use a psychoactive every day polyaddiction is the best option

I want to do shrooms but apparently being on SSRI's and psychedelics are a bad combination. I'm on useless meds and I can't trip.

>>82753411
they will definitely dull the trip but you should at least give it a try regardless because it's not like the combo is dangerous unlike something like mdma+ssri
also what ssri and how high of a dose? if you aren't on a super high dose you can still probably get much out of shrooms, i recommend reading anecdotes online regarding tripping on shrooms with whatever you are taking

>>82753474
This is gonna sound silly but I thought shrooms and SSRI's were dangerous, a dulled experience I can deal with. I'm on 60mg of a cheap version of cymbalta. Also I'm on an antipsychotic for anxiety, not psychosis.

>>82753411
It depends on the pharmacology of the specific SSRIs. Some impact each receptor (and specifically the 5HT-2A receptor) differently.

>>82749598
Anal sex bro

Is DMT really as good as people say?

>>82749258
Just use phenibut lyrica or in my case muscimol, still not great for your brain but it's better than benzos

Guys I'm on Madeira on a vacation and didn't bring any drugs. What should I do? Any natural bug or plant I could get high on?

>>82753992
No. Its probably a nightmare

>>82750196
You must not be in the states since
>private
And any ethical doctor would not just hand them out in the first visit unless you had recent and past medical documentation to back it up. What I described is what me and others I knew went through. I even had to do a day long neuropsych evaluation for it to rule that and other diagnoses out. At least I found out I had an IQ of 116.

>>82751115
My response to you is the same as the other anon.

>>82754371
if you snort mosquitos you will get high, trust me

the crazy thing about my zoloft and zyprexia is that it doesnt even do anything
i can skip days of taking it and dont feel different

>>82754595
>i can skip days of taking it and dont feel different
Damn, you are lucky. I had to go through a scheduled taper from my doc or
>ZZZZZZZAP
>ZAP
>ZZZZZZZAAAAAP
>ZZAP
>ZZZZZZZZZZXXXXXAP

>>82754595
If you take zyprexa and do fine without it you shouldn't take it, i dont have that luxury

>>82749132
not an SSRI, but CBD with very small amounts of thc have helped me cope
.t ptsd haver

>>82753992
depends what you mean by good but yes

>>82749132
I'm on lexapro but ssris are just sugar pills. Tho they have neurogenesis properties

>>82751812
Kills social anxiety, lowers regular anxiety, puts you in the same headspace as alcohol when you don't think you are drunk but still clearly affected, physically stimulating, get me very horny, also makes me talk a lot with people. The next day you usually get an after glow, then the day after that you get anxiety that can be really bad.

>>82745973
I wonder what its like to cross the bridge while youre tripping balls on DMT

>>82755228
Could be good could be bad, I would say do heroin but opioids make me nauseous.

Those opia kratom pills at the vape shop make me high for like ten hours and just enhances everything for me. 4 pills for $30. Sometimes it makes me throw up.

>>82745973
fent and nod off on a tall building.
bonus: it looks like an accident.

>>82750383
>>82754033
I tried pregabalin but the tolerance build-up made it quickly not worth it and the withdrawals were pretty horrible, I'm probably not going to do it again

>>82755641
Wtf is this shit ?
Rreeee

>>82755777
Ok. We found out what it is

>>82755757
i find it very interesting how my brain chemistry basically makes the wds and tolerance with pregab minimal but some people actually get pretty bad wds with that stuff
if you have tried the stuff and came to the conclusion that it ain't good i won't argue with that tho, all of our brains are different after all

>>82755641
>>82755777
I wish 7OH and kratom in general were available in my country but reading about it I can see why they banned it, it's a legit opioid (7OH especially so)

>>82755813
They were manageable but yeah, I felt like garbage for several days and barely even got out of bed, really not worth the relatively minor benefits I got from it

>>82745973
idk why people complicate it, just stick to what god gave us through the earth. weed, nicotine, and shrooms. anything else is literally designed to fuck people up and make money off of them lmao

Now that i am off of opiates i miss the itching

i'm so sick of these lazy ass vendors taking a whole week to ship things. do your job you fucking BUM

>>82746630
do you masturbate to horse girls anon

>>82747286
>heroin
if only... shit man I need to find gear but as of now the only two options I got are telegram and dnms, and I'm retarded for the telegram shit and I live in the middle of a fucking mountain so idk how the latter would work for me, maybe it's time to go with the ask a homeless dude strat. although heroin is not a very common thing in here.

>>82753992
Yes. It what people imagine psychedelics are like.

I have
>mdma
>shrooms
>ketamine
>thc edibles
what are some good drug combos to try?

what're the odds roommates could tell i took shrooms if I kept to myself in my room?

>>82756573
Not really, I've only done it maybe twice or thrice to Gold Ship.

>>82757180
Take all of them at once (don't actually do this)

>>82754402
>You must not be in the states since
No, it's horrible you have to jump through all those hoops.
>any ethical doctor would not just hand them out in the first visit
In my experience private doctors are more liberal with scripts. Have you tried to go private?
With public doctors, I was told it takes months to be diagnosed as a schizo. One session at the private psychiatriat and I got a diagnisis.
And as for the ethical part, as long as it contributes to the patient's quality of life, it's the right thing to do; that's the mindset here, and how I got so many benzos.0

>>82757180
mdma and shrooms is the safest bet for a good time

>>82757564
My public psychiatrist (not American) gave me a script for Ritalin literally just because I said I was tired sometimes (you're not even supposed to prescribe it for that), it was great until I told her I was abusing them like a dumbass and she cancelled my script (I wanted to be "responsible" and "do the right thing" for once, look how well that's worked out for me)

I think I actually do legitimately have ADHD and they were genuinely helping, but previous abuse is a huge red flag for prescribing the same drug again and doctors generally won't do it, or so I'm told

its gabapentin friday

it's been two weeks without SSRIs bros
I've been crying like a bitch but I think I made the right decision. just passing by to say I love yall faggots

>>82757564
I had a lot of hoops to go through. Psychiatrists and doctors here where I'm at are reluctant to hand them out even if there is an ADHD diagnosis due to the risk of addiction. They'll usually try a non-stim first, which almost never works or only works as an add-on to a low dose stim. Thankfully mine went straight to Adderall and I've been very thankful since. I hated drinking and using benzos just to calm my brain down to feel better. The Adderall just at 10mg has done a lot better and my side effects have been nil. Now, I rarely use either benzos or drink alcohol. I still like the chillness that benzos give me though.

does anyone have any advice for first time using ket?

>>82749132
lexapro but go for ask your doctor for some kind of benzo first. lexapro works but benzos work better.

also weed is effective unless you have a low tolerance. I used to and it sucked a few times until your body gets familiar with it. Then it becomes soothing and helps you feel comfortable.

>>82758429
If you think you did too little, it's very likely you did just enough to get a good high, snorting/gumming/boofing more would only end up with you K-holing and ending up in the sri lanka cut throat realm or some shit. so measure your stuff carefully anonny.

>>82757625
>My public psychiatrist (not American) gave me a script for Ritalin literally just because I said I was tired sometimes
Nice, you fell on a good one, it seems. Psychiatrists go full on attack on symptoms with drugs which makes them the best sources for scripts.
> told her I was abusing
Lol, yeah, that was a very bad idea. I abuse lots of my meds but say I take 'em as-needed to my doctors. Never tell them you're abusing, they flag people as "drug-seekers" and it'll show up in your medical records for other public doctors. Always be smart with how much you give away to a psychiatrist.
>>82758138
>Psychiatrists and doctors here where I'm at are reluctant to hand them out even if there is an ADHD diagnosis due to the risk of addiction
I hate anal drug laws and "professional concerns". If it helps the patient, they should do the right thing. They should chill.
>Thankfully mine went straight to Adderall and I've been very thankful since
Good for you! I seems to be a hassle to get a script someplaces. A shame.
>I hated drinking and using benzos just to calm my brain down to feel better
Sounds like you have real-ass ADHD if you had to resort to Alcohol and benzos to self medicate. I'm glad it's working for you as intended!
Btw, what benzo did you use? How much?
Weren't they afraid you'll get addicted to it too?

>>82758631
>Never tell them you're abusing, they flag people as "drug-seekers" and it'll show up in your medical records for other public doctors.
Yeah I know, but the funny thing is she already knew about my past history of drug abuse and probably shouldn't have been prescribing addictive drugs to start with

>>82756295
holy shit relatable.

>>82756126
NTA .
>just stick to what god gave us through the earth. weed, nicotine, and shrooms
God gave us science to make LSD with, too.
>anything else is literally designed to fuck people up and make money off of them
LSD can balance you in the long term (if you have a proper trip) and is pretty cheap.
t. LSD enjoyer

>>82756175
>Now that i am off of opiates i miss the itching
I've heqrd about the itching. Is it like a good itch?
Where does it itch, usually? Does the itch get worse the more you use?

>>82757627
Garbage drug

>>82756683
>I'm retarded for the telegram shit
It's not as hard as DNMs are. It's pretty simple if you try it. Though living in a remote area might be a problem. Maybe.

>>82759718
Yeah, I don't understand the whole "dude shrooms are better for you they're NATURAL unlike acid which is made in a LAB with CHEMICALS", they have nearly identical effects because they act on very similar receptors (I've taken both) and at the end of the day you're putting something in your body that isn't meant to be in there in the first place

Personally I prefer LSD because a single small square of paper is much easier to take than multiple grams of dried mushrooms

>>82757180
I will also recommend Shrooms and MDMA for the most predictible experience. I've heard LSD and MDMA are fun to do, so it shouldn't be so different. If you want the trip to get reeeealy intense and unpreductible, add the edibles later on.

>>82757364
>what're the odds roommates could tell i took shrooms if I kept to myself in my room?
Unless you blasted psy music or were loud in anyway, or made shroom tea that whould smell, how could they know? Do you usually keep to your room or do you spend more time in the common area?

>>82757627
The green iced tea looks good.
Have fun, anon!

>>82758722
>she already knew about my past history of drug abuse
Why would you ever share the fact you use drugs with formal medical experts? It just stigmatises you and lowers the chances of you getting good drugs/meds. Unless you wound up there for that reason specifically, I assume.
None of my doctors know how I use my meds (except for the APs, which I take like I should). Once, I let slip that I take 3 sleeping pills (0.75 mg Brotizolam) insted of 1 (0.25mg) a night to my doc and asked for more monthly allowance, and he was alarmed and went on a rant about why I shouldn't take that much; and how he, as an ethical doctor, cannot prescribe me that kind of dosage. That was a close one to getting my whole script taken away from me, and I need it badly to sleep. Never again. He advised me to ask my private psychiatrist to give me something if I wanted something more, and that psychiatrists "have a whole arsanal to treat whatever you've got"; that's how I got my Clonazepam script. God bless my psychiatrist and her liberal script giving tendencies; saved my life.

>>82756295
>lazy ass vendors taking a whole week to ship things
They're either clogged up with orders or don't care for customer setisfaction, or have a dedicated day to ship all orders at once. I stick to Telegram dealers that get my drugs to me in 45mins or less and care a whole lot about what the consumer thinks about them and their operation in general.

>>82759994
>Why would you ever share the fact you use drugs with formal medical experts?
It wasn't really my choice, this was after a hospital stay due to taking too many drugs and you can't really hide it from medical professionals at that point

>>82760038
Honestly I'm a bit reluctant to say anything else because I'm paranoid this will be used to identify her somehow, I shouldn't have even said she was a woman

>>82759855
I'm usually in my room anyway. Just kinda wondering if it were to make me do something out of the usual

Reporting into drugfeel
I got a 2 gram aio thc vape
It helps with me being lonely

>>82759725
Its like the greatest feeling itch in the world and its random
Some people dont like it or some people dont itch
The bottom of my foot itch felt the best

>>82759757
>unlike acid which is made in a LAB with CHEMICALS
Yeah, like, Psilocybin and Nicotine and THC are *also* chemicals, btw.
>have nearly identical effects because they act on very similar receptors
So I've read, but heard anecdotes, from friends who did both, that shrooms are less physically and mentally taxing than LSD is, and give more vivid hallucinations, like a person's head turning to an animal's. The most vivid hallucinations I've had on LSD were faces melting, the floor dropping from beneath me into a void. And at +300ug I've had psychedelic shapes revolving around me that obscured my whole field of vision for a while at the peak, so I was litterally blind for that time, and was mentally intranced by the shapes, so unable to respond to anyone/thing outside the trip; like I've taken a dissociative or something.
>I've taken both
I've only taken LSD, as reliable shroom sources back when I was first experimenting with psychs, weren't available. Now I stick to LSD for a psych trip, since it's cheaper, and easier to consume. Even if it cripples me physically and mentally at the peak; since I do it *alone* (never with people anymore for good reasons) and in my room at my PC, able to control most stimuli I am exposed to at a press of a button, so I have a more predictible and fun trip.
>Personally I prefer LSD because a single small square of paper is much easier to take than multiple grams of dried mushrooms
One of the reasons I didn't do shrooms yet.
I may take it as tea or a chocolate bar (rare to find legit bars as most contain Amanita), when I do try it.
I'd also like to avoid nausea (that LSD won't cause), and/or throwing-up; which would definitly change the whole focus of my trip into managing my physical state along minimizing bad side-effects; while not enjoying the trip itself.
And they pricey for the shorter, 4-6h, trip. ~120$ per ~4g vs. LSD's ~120$ for 5 +250ug tabs.
I prefer LSD's long trips; if I've got the time to trip, let it be a long one!

>>82761037
>Its like the greatest feeling itch in the world and its random
I see I see. Interesting.
>Some people dont like it
So I've heard, which made your pondness of the itch weird to me. But I get it, sometime it feels very nice to scratch at an itch and get in there real good.
>some people dont itch
Huh, I didn't know that. Interesting as well.

>>82760692
>I'm usually in my room anyway
Aha, so no problem. All is as usual, then.
>make me do something out of the usual
It probably did, but I don't think your roomate knows anything about it, hehe.

>>82761104
>So I've read, but heard anecdotes, from friends who did both, that shrooms are less physically and mentally taxing than LSD is, and give more vivid hallucinations, like a person's head turning to an animal's. The most vivid hallucinations I've had on LSD were faces melting, the floor dropping from beneath me into a void.
I mustn't have been taking high enough doses because I've never experienced any of that, but then I seem to have a weird natural tolerance to psychs anyway (it could've just been a bad batch but I took 14 grams of dried shrooms at once with no tolerance at one point, which most people will swear will transport you to another dimension, cause complete ego death and leave you feeling like a totally different person afterwards but it really didn't feel that strong, like about how most people describe 3.5g)

>>82760692
Your pupils will probably be wide as saucers so that's a dead giveaway right there if you actually look anyone in the eye for whatever reason (it's very noticeable, especially if you have blue eyes) but I don't think taking shrooms will specifically make you do anything that would draw attention to you (in my experience that's the last thing you want)

Guys did I screw up?
I made a volumetric lsd tincture with 2 tabs and a 50ml plastic vodka bottle, I wrapped it up in foil immediately when i made it and placed it in the fridge, but when I dosed this morning I removed it from the foil instead of covering/uncovering the top like an ass and left it exposed under my flourescent kitchen light for like 3-4 mins, will it survive? Gonna make a foil cover and dose in a dark room from now on but got a feeling I degraded it bigly.

>>82745005 (OP)
>see some crackhead fent leaning on the corner
>hit them with some narcan
>they get pissed off
lmao

>>82761255
i remember itching on suboxine
and then itching on kratom 7 oh for hours
this was after not using kratom for 2 years
i dont see rappers itching thats why i said that
and they take stuff like lean and percs
i took kratom at work and was itching the whole time i was wondering if anyone noticed

On Friday night I like to get high and write poetry


>I want to take your fears
>Chop them up and cook and serve them
>Turn them into something you can try seasoned and warm

>It would be new, it could be foul
>Might be nourishing or harmful
>May provide you with the different flavours that you need.

>So eat up
>Finish your plate
>Give the breadth of life a taste

>>82761464
https://youtu.be/QhBblfCPryE?si=AVANm2pUZPT1yPuz

Another day of getting high and playing Skyrim. I'm a total loser in life but at least I'm having fun.

>>82761977
Why dont you work with a leaf blower like a real man ?

>>82762101
This vape looks cool and taste good

>>82761104
>One of the reasons I didn't do shrooms yet.
They taste very good, idk what problem people have with them. In fact it's even easier for me to eat mushrooms than an acid tab, they make my teeth feel extremely weird and leaves an unpleasant sensation in the mouth and throat .
>nausea
Just don't eat for several hours beforehand and drink tea/coffee with it
>pricey
They are very easy and cheap to grow at home. Also where the fuck do they cost this much? The only time I bought mushrooms instead of growing them myself it was 10 eurorupees for 10 grams.

>>82761595
What are you trying to say?
Origami.

>>82760038
>It wasn't really my choice, this was after a hospital stay due to taking too many drugs and you can't really hide it from medical professionals at that point
Well, yeah, it's not a good idea to hide the real reason why you're visiting the ER from the doctors, as it will make proper treatment problematic. But down-playing it would've been good. Like saying you're inexperienced and over-estimated the dosage, or just wanted to try it once or twice, or that it was your first time or something.
Spilling all or most of your drug experience and habbits on the doctors can lead to being flaged in the system as a "druggie", to poor treatment, and stigmatism, when it comes to their attitude with you, as well.
While I was in the ER for my first proper psychotic episode (a milestone!), I was given a urine-sample cup to pee into, which I did cus I was clean atm. They also asked me directly if I use any drugs, which I declined outright; both taking drugs in the past and right before getting there. They never took the cup for testing, and eventually threw it into the trash bin, shortly before I left (was there a full day: 8am-2am. Tested everything; an MRI, a neurologist exam, a psychiatric evaluation. All I passed as healthy). They checked if I peed in the cup or not, not use lab time; in case you lie about using drugs. I guess that drug induced psychosis' common in the ER.
/blog
I was in an ambulance on route to the regional ward (after begging to be taken to the hospital's private ward. As the one I was sent to is mostly for the criminally insane, and is infamously a bad place to be in). More psych evals at 3am by the on-call doc. I was given paper to sign for willful commitment. Lied I wasn't suicidal, so I wasn't a danger to anyone, so It had to be willful by law. A nurse was scaring me not to sign, said I'm a "nice boy" and will be harrased by the others. Did not sign. Taken home by mom. Left home next day for my own apt mom'd fund untill disability came in.
/blog

>>82762332
That rap is poetry

I'm gonna relapse on opiates!!!! digits decide how much I do
Odd number - I snort a quarter of the pill
Even number - I take a quarter of the pill orally and maybe redose if it's not enough
Dubs - I snort half the pill
Trips - I don't relapse today.

>>82762673
Your setting yourself up anon, I just use a coin toss website for that kind of shit brother, which decided my fate and now I'll have to spend a friday night sober, sadly but tomorrow it will be different

>travel abroad for weekend extended by paid leave
>cannabis is decriminalized there
>go by train
>EU borders so they don't even make you open your bag
>bought weed home
>have good weed
Now I'm listening to a comfy history podcast on a friday night.

>>82762673
Opiates always sneak up on me like 3 hours after taking them i throw up

>>82762922
I know I know but the other method bumps this thread :P

>>82757816
Love u too bro, hope u are ok

best source for ODSMT / RC uppers now the dutch RC vendors are kaputt? Rather not have to mission to berlin and go to goerlitzerpark

>>82761302
>I mustn't have been taking high enough doses because I've never experienced any of that
I was taking 200ug-250ug tabs of acid (though after comparing to acid abroad via DNM, the local acid hits a little harder in my experience, don't know what they do to it :p). My firends were in Amsterdam, and took starter doses of truffles, so it should be no different from 3-3.5 grams of shrooms in my opinion. They also threw-up at some point (though one of them is especially susceptible; as he threw-up from 200ug of LSD as well, at one of our few trips together. Other than that, he could handle his shit under influence pretty well, and was not a liability like some *other* people were; which drove me to only do LSD alone, eventually)
>I took 14 grams of dried shrooms at once with no tolerance at one point
That's an insane story! Sounds like a desperate last resort or something. Either it was a bad batch, or you've got some natural super-tolerance to psychs. Damn, that's a lot of shrooms, and I can't even estimate how strong your trip should've been, since I never had any.
Did it happen with LSD as well?
What doses of acid were you taking usually?
The most LSD I ever took, if you can believe the dealer about the dose, was 300ug-350ug or so. Never had the desire to go any higer than that as those doses were already starting to be too much for me as it is.

I like a mellow 200ug acid high, with some nice open eye visuals on patterns I have on my wallrugs (which are nice to look at while tripping, seeing the shapes fractal into theirselves), a psychedelic state of mind, and to listen to good music and/or watch an interesting video/music clip. Anymore than that is not appealing to me, is bothersome to navigate through, and too crippling; both physically and mentally, for it to be any fun. Even while on-the-wheel, stimuli-wise; you just can't reliably predict effects from a certain dose and up. And having predictible effects is one of my favorite qualities of LSD!

>>82761033
>It helps with me being lonely
I'm glad you have your little vape buddie, anon.
Have fun!

>>82763023
How do you know an RC won't cause some unaccounted side effect 2 years after regular use? Or you just trust the vendor? Genuinely curious.
>best source for
idk

>>82761302
Most I did was 3.1g bone dry shrooms. It was not psychollogically taxing (despite being alone, though at some point I wished there was someone to have a conversation with), but I was very tired by the end of it because I did it on a hike. And I only had a cup of oatmeal for breakfast. I had nice OEVS on the leaves but I could make it go away whenever I wanted, just had to take the effort to focus. I ended up philosophizing about ants 10/10.

>>82763048
>They also threw-up at some point
That's why I don't eat a lot before using tryptamines. Especially not fatty/oily meals, the vasoconstriction somehow also constricts your stomach and bowels. Even if you don't throw up it's not comfy.

>>82762272
>They taste very good, idk what problem people have with them
I've heard they're bitter and hard to swallow from multiple sources throughout the years.
>they make my teeth feel extremely weird and leaves an unpleasant sensation in the mouth and throat
LSD shouldn't do that. It's tasteless and is effecless in the mouth, in my great and varied experience of consuming it as tabs. Consider you were maybe sold something else. Odd reaction.
>Just don't eat for several hours beforehand and drink tea/coffee with it
Hmm. That'll be hard due to my regular caffeine intake all throughout the day, but a good advice. I'll do that when I finally try some shrooms.
>very easy and cheap to grow at home
I know that contamination of some batches is unavoidable and is hard to midigate. Also, sourcing growing kits isn't easy in my country, and is illegal for none-scientific purposes, such as personal and recreational use. Also, tending to them is a hassle I can avoid just by forking in the money. The local product is good and potent, from what I hear, and read online; and there's a wide strain selection to choose from, too.
>Also where the fuck do they cost this much?
Telegram. Its got a standardized price-range across all dealers, to avoid infighting and such, and shrooms just wound-up with that base value as a fluke; as opposed to LSD, which is cheaper. Also, oddly, Meth is more expensive than street speed, here; which I hear is the other way around, abroad.
> The only time I bought mushrooms instead of growing them myself it was 10 eurorupees for 10 grams
Wow, way cheaper than my country's base market price is! Was it on sale? Or bulk price or something? Sometimes you find inexperienced dealers who grew some at home and are willing to sell for cheaper than base market value, just to get rid of the excess amounts they grew; but those are unreliable and awkward to deal with. I avoid them, and stick to my usual guy's selection, as he's not an amature shroom-grower, but a pro.

>>82749132
>whats the best ssri for anxiety
None, don't take that shit. Ketamine microdosing or psychedelic microdosing, or both at the same time, and optionally, if it works for you, weed. This is everything you will ever need to CURE anxiety.

>>82763655
nta but won't being fucked up on drugs in public make me more anxious? I hate having people see me and if there's anything I hate more it's having people see me while I'm on something (unless it's pregabalin or opiates)

>>82749132
for me it was a combo of lexapro + wellbutrin, it worked but it had side effects on me like gaining weight and sexual problems

>>82761355
>i remember itching on suboxine
You only get that at rehab, no? I asked Google AI.
>then itching on kratom 7 oh for hours
this was after not using kratom for 2 years
Must have felt good to take Kratom with 0 tolerance again after so long. Never did any, as it is (as is 7oh) illegal in my country, which I hear is not the case abroad, and is even sold at gas stations and clearnet vendors.
>i dont see rappers itching thats why i said that
Maybe they're just really good at hiding it? Or edit it out from clips.
>i took kratom at work
Oof. Wonder what that was like. I never mix drugs with real life, as a strong rule in my book of personal laws. Feels too much like a teenager trying to hide a Weed high from his perants to me, I don't like it one bit! Hope you didn't run into any trouble, or drive while on it.
>was itching the whole time i was wondering if anyone noticed
Prolly not if you're in a cubicle. I don't think people associate scratching oneself with drug use anymore, these days. It used to be the telling mark of an addict, back in the day as a meme, in movies and tv shows like 'It's Always Sunny'; but I don't see it anymore in media and such. So no one has noticed, most likely, and at max thought you were just very itchy at the time, for unrelated, normal reasons :p

>>82763655
i dont think psych are good for anxiety anon

>>82761310
>I made a volumetric lsd tincture with 2 tabs and a 50ml plastic vodka bottle
I can't help you with your question as I never heard of this before, and don't know artificial light's effect on a tincture's potency. But I think it's really cool you make them. Sounds like you have some experience with making them, too.
Some questions for you, if I may:
What's your desired/predicted dosage per ml from the tincture you've made?
I assume you microdose with it.
Have you been microdosing for long?
How is microdosing, really? Does it have any noticable effect or is it just placebo?
What are you using it for? Being more effective at something, or to dispell boredom?
How long have you been making tinctures for? Using what methods and what solvents? Prolly the vodka, I'd guess.
Is plain 40% vodka potent enought to act as a solvent?
Sorry for all the questions, it's my first time spotting a practicing LSD microdoser, and I'm very curious about microdosing; and also making DIY drug-stuff in general, and think it's cool.
There was a guy on this thread, not long ago, who figured out how to optimally extract the opioids out from a certain type of pills that were supposed to be proof and safe from this kind of tempering, for the purpose of IVing it; only using some basic chemistry and a stove. He was the first to do it like that, afaik. I like innovative druggie stuff like that.

>>82761464
A very soulful hobby, anon. I like what you wrote, it's nice and a little bit morbid, which I appreciate.
Writing is great to practice in general imo.

>>82763202
I don't really care, the fluorinated meth analogues dont seem to be any worse than the real deal my mate has been smoking them daily for 5 years and is doing better than the meth warriors i know. And O-DSMT is just the tramadol metabolite. The advantage is not having to deal with street people when i want to get on, I'm easily sucked into junky bs

>>82761977
>playing Skyrim
Eh, could be playing a better game imo. Skyrim is as vast as an ocean and as deep as a puddle, as said by greater people than I am. Though it can be nice to lose yourself in the atmosphere sometimes, I guess. Could be worse, could be playing a soulslike.
>I'm a total loser in life
That's subjective. Don't beat yourself up, anon. I'm sure you're doing good enough, and could do way worse. So be happy with your life. It is what it is, I say.
>at least I'm having fun
That's the important bit, I think. Some people forget it, at times, and take things way too seriously for my taste.
Have lots of fun being high and playing, anon!
May your highs be long and enjoyable, and your downs be short and easy.

>>82757180
K + shrooms

>>82762101
>Why dont you work with a leaf blower like a real man?
Let the guy have his fun, man. That's one of the few things we have in life.
And some people can't work, even simple jobs like leaf-blowing, for medical reasons. And some won't work on principle, which is not as understandable, but still is a valid choice to make imo. And some just don't get around to it, and NEET against their better judgement and general good, which is relatable to a degree, and is very common to see around these parts of the internet.
In anyway, the bloke's doing just fine whatever his condition is. He should be able to let loose on a Friday, and relax with some Weed and vidya (even if it *is* Skyrim) if he ever so wishes.
Why don't you leaf-blow, yourself, like a real man; and leave my poor, innocent, precious, little NEETs alone.

>>82763699
>nta but won't being fucked up on drugs in public make me more anxious
Microdosing won't fuck you up, that's the point of it, you are sober and can do your normal daily activities, drive etc.
>>82764116
>i dont think psych are good for anxiety anon
Microdosing means taking sub perceptual doses below the threshold necessary to induce hallucinations.

>>82764766
I know what microdosing is, but won't sub perceptual doses just cause sub perceptual worsening of anxiety? They can cause perceptual anxiety on real doses if you're already anxious.

>>82762673
>I'm gonna relapse on opiates
I hope it not against your better judgement, anon, and that you'll be fine with this decision later on.
>digits decide how much I do
This is a first time for me to see addiction being gamifyed like that, though it's not uncommon to leave things to chance ig, like coin flipping.
Again, really hope you're wholeheartedly sure of this choice, and won't live to regret it, after the high is done with and gone. I say these things with the best of intentions and having genuine concern. Sorry if I come off as a pearl clutching, prude, spoilfun.
Have a lot of fun, whatever the future might bring, anon.

>>82745005 (OP)
I'm so fucking bored. I want to buy amphetamine paste and go on a stimwank marathon

>>82764895
I'm still at the "picking the opiates up" part but eh, gamifying it is a way to break monotony.
Doctors aren't going to give me more tramadol and begging for more is embarrassing, so I'm hoping that I'll hold on to a few pills for when I genuinely need them, and sniff a few to make limbo more manageable.
And If I do abuse it every-day, the tolerance is lower so the withdrawals will be less brutal once I run out, the worst withdrawals I've had were from a 3 month physical addiction.

By the way, general question to anyone into opiates, do you also start sucking on your lips like a pacifier when you're high enough? it feels super comforting to do.

Bumping on 7oh. Gotta make 300mg last me 3 days before my next batch comes in the mail. Gotta be careful with when I dose because I'm just staying off withdrawal symptoms at this point, not even getting high

This shit is MUCH more powerful than regular kratom. Buyer beware. It literally hits all the same receptors as morphine.

I'm just floating bro

>>82745435
up the ass.

Boofing I think is what it's called.

If when there is a will, there is a way, if there's no way, there is no will.

is speed and meth similar in experience to cathinones

If i had a gf i would quit drugs

>>82765345
The high last me 8 hours on that stuff

Just as I'm thinking it's time to try to get off the 7oh train, my vendors are all emailing me saying they have stuff even MORE powerful than that now. The ride never ends, ban it and they'll just synthesize something new and more powerful the next week

>>82765538
I have to redose every few hours to maintain the good feeling but I've been a daily addict for months now

>>82764278
>Sounds like you have some experience with making them, too.
Nope, total beginner, I did an hour or so of research to learn how
>What's your desired/predicted dosage per ml from the tincture you've made?
Two 200ug tabs suspended in 50ml vodka 37.5% vol, so 8ug per 1ml dropper. I'm starting on 8ug then gradually increasing using the Fadiman protocol (1 day on, 2 days off)
>Have you been microdosing for long?
Took my first dose yesterday
>How is microdosing, really? Does it have any noticable effect or is it just placebo?
I noticed a very mild euphoria for 4-6 hours on first dose and that was about it, I then became extremely tired and had to wash and go to bed, I did sleep only a few hours the night before so I don't know how much that had to do with the lsd or me just being really overtired, I'm going to gradually increase in 4ug increments until I get a more profound and identifiable feeling.
>What are you using it for? Being more effective at something, or to dispell boredom?
Introspection, I am struggling with anger, obsessive negative thought patterns and have a lot of suppressed emotion I am trying to connect with and understand.
>How long have you been making tinctures for? Using what methods and what solvents? Prolly the vodka, I'd guess.
First time, you need a sterile liquid to submerge the tabs in because lsd is a sensitive substance. Minerals, flavorants, heat and light can degrade it so you need either a white spirit i.e vodka or distilled water. If the container is clear you wrap it in foil and keep in the fridge to protect it from heat and light.
>Is plain 40% vodka potent enought to act as a solvent?
Yes, 50/50 ethanol to distilled water is apparantly optimal but you just need something pure with enough alcohol to keep it sterile and free from contamination.

1/2

>>82765707
>Sorry for all the questions, it's my first time spotting a practicing LSD microdoser, and I'm very curious about microdosing; and also making DIY drug-stuff in general, and think it's cool.
np, I was interested and have nothing to lose so I gave it a shot.
>There was a guy on this thread, not long ago, who figured out how to optimally extract the opioids out from a certain type of pills that were supposed to be proof and safe from this kind of tempering, for the purpose of IVing it; only using some basic chemistry and a stove. He was the first to do it like that, afaik. I like innovative druggie stuff like that.
That's neat, I'm a total beginner which is why I'm sweating about the degradation stuff. According to the lsd subreddit you can leave tabs out in direct heat and sun for 30mins without serious degradation but volumetric suspension of lsd makes it more sensitive so I was just curious if there was anyone here who had experience and could put my mind at ease. I've made it now so I'm just gonna keep taking it regardless, if it has degraded I'll just have to up the dose until I feel something. I'm not gonna throw it away I'm just gonna keep taking it even if it causes placebo. Partly wishing I'd just halved the tabs and tripped fully, but I've started now so I'm gonna keep going with it and see what happens.

2/2

>>82765275
Holy fuck yes, this shit is gonna be awesome, I missed crushing pills up.
I tried snorting a dxm tablet while fucked up on pregabalin the other day and It burnt, so I can't wait to put a non-painful pill up my nose this time.

>>82766030
I like the pain of snorting a fat rail of crystal tbqh

>>82766034
New to smoking cigs, but not new to other drugs. What am I in for?

>>82765559
whoever is making this stuff is a god

>>82766154
It does come in handy being so low cost and legal to obtain. But you really gotta be dedicated to not becoming a junkie with it

>>82766152
Short acting, quickly fades, shit drug compared to how addictive it is. After a while you feel uneasy when you go without it for a few days.

>>82765275
Tramadol is a bitch to find. After months of trying I finally found a regular supplier. Holding on to him for dear life.

>>82766152
It's a nice short relaxing buzz, but don't do it too often or it'll lose it's magic and make you physically dependent on them.
Vapes also generally feel a lot better to consume than regular cigarettes, but are more expensive.

>>82766203
i boof trammy at work

>>82766152
>tried a cig during sex
>made me feel sexy and naughty
>went home and tried it again
>few minute buzz then felt sick and dizzy
>never tried again
Don't get the appeal.

>>82766203
I'd argue a supplier for opiates/pharma shit is difficult to find in general, not sure which cunt you're from but in mine you got a ton of speed, weed, and maybe psychs, then stuff like molly, ket, and more niche psychedelics are more elusive, and pharma stuff is quite rare with opiates being even rarer.
I had a better supplier before but he likely got caught by the feds, and my newer one's kinda hit or miss with when he sends his shit, but he seems to fly under the radar so I know it's a decent long-term option if I don't mind waiting.

>>82766189
>>82766209
Interesting. I'm already addicted to booze and weed and do psychs sometimes so I'm no stranger to drugs. Yeah getting a nice buzz off my fourth one but it does seem like a hassle to smoke that much just for a buzz.
>>82766239
I did feel really dizzy off the first one.

>>82766244
Because it's kind of a robot drug. same with benzos. You are right that dealers always have the normie shit such as weed, molly or ket. When I say I do opiates I get weird looks as well. Normies don't like downers for some reason.

>>82766244
Another reason is that people who are into opiates tend to just do heroin and anything less is seen as a waste of time so dealers don't stock it.

>>82766323
https://youtu.be/2ZqrBQMPKZM?si=4upgZcBjLv-gZjXm

>>82766374
I remember him. IIRC he turned his life around and started making inspiring music about life and his struggles.

>>82766453
this might be him also

https://youtu.be/4MEY8-mKDxU?si=Q63SYVBNOnkfkb-e

https://youtu.be/_0slL3GX5Qg?si=xZjZse7KGkgK6Wem

this is the type of girl i need

>>82764808
>but won't sub perceptual doses just cause sub perceptual worsening of anxiety?
It's supposed to do the opposite. Maybe it CAN cause that in some people, but even if that is the case it is still worth trying

>>82762939
>EU borders so they don't even make you open your bag
>bought weed home
Wow, this is a far fetched dream for me. I was visiting Amsterdam, and still had 3g of Weed by the last day. I considered bringing it on me brifly, to end-up kissing it goodby, chucking it in the trash, then go to the airport. Good thing I did, as they had drug-sniffing dogs searching the line of my flight. They've marked Amsterdam return flights for routine searchs. How unreal it'd be to safely import drugs from abroad, back home. In my pocket, or by mail. Border control and customs are too strict and high-tech to try it without getting caught and punished severely. It's up to 20 years in prison and heavy fines; for each charge of importing, trafficking, and smuggling an illegal drug internationally. How small the amount is has zero effect on how hard of a punishment would be dealt; not worth a few grams of slightly higher quality this or that for the risk. I'm stuck with the local, mid-tier, relatively pricey blackmarket. As government is anti-drugs, far-right, and conservative. Laws won't change for the better soon. Honestly, fuck the war on drugs, its harm to society, and individual drug users; whose only crime's using drugs peacefully, not being a danger to anything. Shit makes me angry and hopeless. Damn, man.
Hope you have lots of fun smoking all that quality Weed, anon. Take a toke for the unfortunate ones while you're at it.

>>82763202
>the vasoconstriction somehow also constricts your stomach and bowels
Idk, never happend to me with LSD.

>>82745005 (OP)
Does methocarbamol have any recreational value?

>>82766841
>missed window to pick up from reliable dealer while in their city
>charging 45 pounds to drive up and deliver to my city
fug...

>>82766841
>>82766968
kek, i didn't mean to respond to you

Just stopping by. You guys sound high as fuck on some serious shit. Not even jelly cause I'm p high myself

>>82765707
>>82765720
I see I see. Thank you for the very insightful information, anon! You sounded properly informed which's why I pegged you as experienced, must've researched well in that 1 hour. You should've felt something from 8ug, I'd think, but increasing the dosage'd yield more effects, obviously.
I wonder if the solvent absorbed all of the LSD properly, having a relatively low Alcohol %; being a first try making it, that is.
I hope you'll have a lot of succsess with intospection and breakthrough in dealing with your mental issues using this method, and will get to a vastly better place within yourself sooner rather than later.
Microdosing sure is an interesting path to take, and is worth a try, in my opinion; considering what you're dealing with. I also hope you'll update the thread with the results of the increased doses, and how much you progress in sorting out your mental issues, too.
>I'm a total beginner which is why I'm sweating about the degradation stuff
Reasonably speaking, I wouldn't worry about 4mins under an artificial light source. I think you're fine, degradation wise.
>Partly wishing I'd just halved the tabs and tripped fully
Nah, man, microdosing is way more promising for gradual improvement and slowly understanding yourself, in my eyes; as opposed to the punch to the face the full trips would've been and how helpful they might've been compared to progressively uping the dose, doing it over a longer period of time, slowly getting better at navigating your mental landscape and emotions. It's also a chance to create something cool and useful on your own, which is nice imo.
>I noticed a very mild euphoria for 4-6 hours on first dose and that was about it,
Interesting. Sounds like a reasonable effect compared to the dose taken, in my opinion. I've heard similar cases of feeling euphoric online, but they also mentioned a better focus and a stim-like effect; idk at what doses, though.
Goodluck, anon!
May your journey be fruitful and easy to face.

>>82765275
>I'm still at the "picking the opiates up" part
Oh. Then be very careful with use frequency and dosage to avoid addiction. Better safe than sorry.
>If I do abuse it every-day, the tolerance is lower so the withdrawals will be less brutal
I don't think that is how it works, anon. The tolerance level has no relation to how harsh the withdrawals will be. I think.
>the worst withdrawals I've had were from a 3 month physical addiction
That's a long time. Hope it wasn't too bad.
Definitly hold onto the pills for a time of actual need, it could be a real life-saver.
>sucking on your lips like a pacifier when you're high enough
Not into opioids. But never heard of such a thing from users. Though it does sounds like a reasonable response to the enhanced tactile sensitivity derived from the body euphoria opioids prolly commonly give people.

>>82766244
>you got a ton of speed, weed, and maybe psychs, then stuff like molly, ket, and more niche psychedelics are more elusive, and pharma stuff is quite rare with opiates being even rarer
NTA but it's the same in my country's blackmarket. Rarely find pharma stuff and even rarer to find opiates. Which is a shame since I'd like to experiment with some opies once or twice. Also, when you DO find pharma grade stuff, it's way over-priced to be worth the purchase.

>>82766152
Had my first cig at 11 and fell in love, a filterless rollie I had stolen from one of my older brothers. It tasted great, the nicotine was a bonus. Later in life, the latter became more important.

>>82765345
>I dose because I'm just staying off withdrawal symptoms at this point, not even getting high
That's an unfortunate state to be in and *the* one to avoid when starting to use any addictive drug.
Maybe it's a sign to quit? Maybe taper off with your next batch, and slowly stop using. At least until your tolerance is at baseline again. Then you can try using again, but without getting addicted this time, as a goal to keep in mind.

>>82765390
>I'm just floating bro
What on? Sounds fun. Enjoy it while it lasts, anon.

>>82765493
>is speed and meth similar in experience to cathinones
From what I read, it's similar, but different enough to notice. Also, Amphetamine and Meth are similar too, but vastly different in feeling overall.
I knew a guy who chewed on Kaht for fun, it looked harmless enough. Though idk about the more potent derivitives, as they sound mre addictive, as opposed to the levels naturaly found in the plant itself; which are relatively low.

>>82766152
>New to smoking cigs, but not new to other drugs. What am I in for?
Got used to smoking Nicotine mixed with Weed in a bong and wasn't really into it. Then when I quit Weed, I tried a cig, then two. Now I vape 20mg straight to lung (like a bong or a hooka, as opposed to mouth to lung, which is lower in dose. Regular stl doses are 6mg-15mg, for reference).
I do not recommend getting into Nicotine at all, as it will control you and the withdrawals are not worth the nearly none existent buzz later on. But do whatever you like, I'm not your mom.

>>82766864
>Does methocarbamol have any recreational value?
From reading about it, it does have some sedetive effects that may be recreational. But overall it's a mild downer with some relaxing potential.

>>82766219
How? Do you just stick a pill in there or what? I've been always wanting to try that.

>>82767993
Fake nails are disgusting and unhygienic

>>82766746
I wouldn't do it on a flight either, trains and buses on the other hand are almost risk free. The train had some Bundespolizei on the way there, but they were looking for someone with an expired visa and didn't bother anyone else. Didn't see any of them on the way back.

>>82768632
It's amazing how the EU is a vastly different, interconnected world than the one I live in.

>>82763559
>I've heard they're bitter and hard to swallow from multiple sources throughout the years.
They are pretty sweat, and if you cut them into small pieces very easy to wash down with water.
>LSD shouldn't do that
It's from the paper texture itself I think, it makes me sick immediately on contact, way sooner than any drug would be able to absorb. It's definitely not a nbome (those aren't active when swallowed), and DOx don't fit the timing. I guess my body just made a connection between paper texture and nausea that follows so it feels unpleasant in advance.
> That'll be hard
Just take them instead of a breakfast if you cannot fast during the day.
> sourcing growing kits isn't easy in my country
You only really need spores, which are legal in vast majority of countries.
>Also, tending to them is a hassle
It's mostly waiting, there's maybe 2-3 hours of active work at most.
>Wow, way cheaper than my country's base market price is! Was it on sale? Or bulk price or something?
I live in a very small country and there isn't really a "market" for drugs other than weed and meth, so most of mushrooms you can get come from people growing some for themselves and willing to sell surplus to people they personally know. I don't think there is a single person you'd consider a pro shroom-grower here.

thoughts on kanna? it's the new old thing going around as a supplement

>>82767779
yeah cathinones are nasty
one line and you're gonna do lines all night until the bag is finished off

>>82766746
>They've marked Amsterdam return flights for routine searchs
Same for the trains. This has been a thing for a while, they expect n00bs to come back from amsterdam with their bags full of dank weed

>>82769380
>yeah cathinones are nasty
one line and you're gonna do lines all night until the bag is finished off
Is it more or less potent than Meth?
Cus I can handle Meth just fine and stop redosing when needed. Though the synthetic anthinones are supposed to be pretty strong.

>>82768817
>thoughts on kanna?
From reading about it, it's supposedly "nature's MDMA",l but in reality it seems very weak in compareson and have more gentle effects. I'm not interested in trying it.

>>82769464
I haven't tried meth or speed that's why I'm asking
the MMC and other cathinones feel a bit like a softer mdma, less speedy

>>82769387
>Same for the trains
Really? Where in the worldare you refering to? I would've thought trains are safe. Then again, I only ever used trains for national travel, not moving from country to country. I guess the security is higher in international border stations.
>This has been a thing for a while
Well, yeah. It makes sense to check the travelers of a country known for its drug tourism for drugs. Bastards can't let us have any fun.

>>82769538
It almost never happens except on trains arriving from barcelona or amsterdam. They know it's group of young people who go there to have their fill of fun so once in a blue moon they'll station a drug dog with police at the incoming train area. But honestly it's pretty stupid to self import a few grams, we've reached a point where most of western europe has great quality drugs including weed

>>82769494
>I haven't tried meth or speed
You should definitly try both when you get the chance, if only to have a more informed opinion. They are similar but different in their own way. I prefer Meth, its very good to me lately, but speed has its moments for sure and is a must try if you have any interest in stims. I bet Meth blows some Canthinones out of the water, so maybe be careful with it, since you said you can get through a whole bag of Canthinones a night; and Meth and Amphetamine (especially) are no different. Though again, some of the synthetic Canthinones do seem to be hardcore af, so idk.
Would like to try a few kinds of synthetic Canthinones and compare them to Meth, which is strong, my favorite Amphetamine, and is my drug of choice nowdays. Maybe I'll have a new favorite.
But I only dose orally, so no snorting the stuff!
Sadly, only natural Kaht in plant form is legal in my country as a gray area gas station drug, being of cultural importance to some local ethnic groups.
We have a law that acts as a blanket prohibition of all drug derivitives, to combat RCs, and synthetic Canthinones are included from what I've read.
I can't find any on the blackmarket, either.

>>82769549
>It almost never happens except on trains arriving from barcelona or amsterdam
Again, makes sense due to commonplace drug tourism in those countries.
>we've reached a point where most of western europe has great quality drugs including weed
I wish. My country has mid-quality drugs compared to drugs from abroad. Like ones I tried in travel or through DNM purchases. I mean, they do the job well enough, no complaints from me! But I know the difference now; and so I'll always see them as mid-quality at best. Would've liked to try Dutch Meth as Dutch LSD is killer good. We have strict borders and an active war on drugs, including undercover operations and stings. So professional mass smuggling is hard to pull off as well as large-scale dealing operations, and local chemists are not as active in the scene afaik (very little, but have an educated guess. Otherwise they'll show up in DNMs most likely).

>>82769708
>Sadly, only natural Kaht in plant form is legal in my country as a gray area gas station drug, being of cultural importance to some local ethnic groups.
what the fuck
are you from yemen or sudan, or even oman. i thought khat was an east african grown plant
you remind me of that guy on the meth reddit who was also some sort of guerilla fighter in sudan dropping bombs from a plane and all. crazy how some people still live crazy adventurous lifestyles

>>82769865
>are you from yemen or sudan, or even oman. i thought khat was an east african grown plant
We are a melting-pot country and have a large Yemeni minority living here, the ogs live mostly in rural areas. They tend to chew on Khat *a lot* and it'll upset them to have it criminilized, so the government gave Khat the blind eye, legally speaking.
>guy on the meth reddit who was also some sort of guerilla fighter in sudan dropping bombs from a plane and all
Wtf dude that's crazy.
Also, there's a Meth sub reddit? Wern't all the drug subs got deleted along with theporn subs?

>>82769538
they have drug dogs on trains between germany and czechia sometimes, most of the meth consumed in east germany is made in clan labs in czechia

I miss LizardLabs and their AL-LAD..

>ketamine and gfe asmr
fuark bros im so comfy rn
easily the worst week of my life and now i have an extra week paid leave :^)

>>82769935
>they have drug dogs on trains between germany and czechia
I'd have never made the connection. Huh.
>most of the meth consumed in east germany is made in clan labs in czechia
Interesting. I did not know that. Idk where the Meth in my country comes from (most likely not from local clan labs, as local chemists are law abiding pussies), though it's probably smuggled in mass by land through a shared border country; and the countries around here are not known for their good quality drugs apart from Egyptian hashish, which is fire. Since most surrounding countries have a Muslim majority population, and drug use is a sin in Islam, they have draconic laws against the use and synthesis of drugs; with harsh punishments for any rule breakers. So not a lot of international drug flow here, as opposed to the EU.
But still, I just know there's better, purer Meth out there overseas and I WANT IT IN MY BODY.
Why was I not born in the EU? I need to relocate. Canada always winked at me as a possible relocation option, with minimal requirements for prolonged stay application, legal weed, good healthcare, and they probably have domestic DNM vendors, so I can start living the high life and order online; insted of being afraid of customs sniffing out my package and face hugh fines and up to 20 years in prison for the multiple charges of trafficking, smuggling and importing (which are all different crimes) of illegal drugs internationally. The more I hear about other countries' drug quality and prices, the more I hate the shithole I live in. Man, fuck this place.

>>82769387
>>82769538
>>82769549
What about dutch flixbus? I plundered my first foreign booty on a regular flixbus. Security seemed even more lax than a train ride, even though it was much less comfortable.

>>82770676
flixbus is free for all yeah i've never had a problem transporting stuff to and from berlin

>pack is 10 minutes away but not delivered today
>no delivery on sunday
>no delivery on monday because holiday
honestly im pissed. have to pick up some 7OH, alcohol, and whatever else i can find at the corner store.
>inb4 just use telegram
my nigga i would if i could

>>82770676
>What about dutch flixbus? I plundered my first foreign booty on a regular flixbus. Security seemed even more lax than a train ride
I just read about Flixbus and it blows my mind how interconnected Europe is and how many ways you can travel from on country to another.
Where to and from were you traveling?
What drugs did you get past border lines your first time around?
Did you need to hide the drugs really well or just kept them in your pocket?
How lax was security compared to a train? Like a single officer boarding on a stop and taking a quick look inside the bus for anything suspicious and then leaving? (We have that in our trains. An officer will board and quickly skim the car for any suspicious abandoned objects, like bags, that could potentially be bombs) Or do you have to get off the bus for some security check?
How do you actually cross border lines in a bus? Won't the border checkpoints have more security anyway, and potentially drug-sniffing dogs?
Sorry for all the questions, I am blown away right now and curious.

>>82771097
If your bag was *obviously* too heavy to fit in the limits of a normal ticket, the driver made you pay extra. That's it, no real law enforcement at the bus station.
Flixbus nornally doesn't stop at EU borders, some countries wouldn't even have the capacity to screen all incoming bus traffic. Not going to answer the rest of your questions, they're too personal.
On an unrelated note, always find a mason jar for your buds to prevent the rotten radish smell of good produce from escaping. I also put them in a sealable plastic bag before landing it in the jar, and shield it from sunlight. Keeps it fresh for much longer aside from blocking the odor.

>>82770885
>>pack is 10 minutes away but not delivered today
Bummer having it so close yet so far away.
What did you order, anon?
>pick up some 7OH
Damn, you can get that at the corner store? I wish it was legal in my country. They've found a way to forbid all fun substances with a few complex, yet vague, blanket laws that encompass basically all known psychoactive recreational drugs and their derivitives (RCs), so no 7OH for me. I never even seen Kratom irl ffs.
How reliable and potent is corner store 7OH?
Do they hide it or display it proudly on the counter?
I've heard of reliable clearnet vendors selling super powerful stuff for cheap.
>my nigga i would if i could
What's stopping you? It's litterally the easiest thing to do. The delivery guy gets all the way to your door no matter the day or time in 45mins or less. Very comfy, and better than waiting days to weeks for a package to arrive by mail. I wish I could use DNMs safely though, so count your blessings, I guess.

>>82771333
>no real law enforcement at the bus station
Sounds standard to me. For a bus ride, that is.
>Flixbus nornally doesn't stop at EU borders
Oh, you made it sound like you smuggled some drugs across border lines on a Flixbus ("I plundered my first *foreign* booty *on a regular flixbus*"), so I thought they ride across country borders.
>Not going to answer the rest of your questions, they're too personal
Aww, not even what kind of drugs they were?
I guess everyone have their own lines. I respect yours, and won't push further.
>always find a mason jar for your buds
Thanks for the advice, but I'm not a Weed guy anymore. Also, drug-sniffing dogs could still detect it quite easily, despite the double sealing.

>>82745435
depends on the type, in europe we only get brown and that's meant for smoking off of foil
if you have white you could snort it and have a good time but like that other anon said boofing is the closest you can get to IVing without injecting

>>82771388
waiting for some ketamine. even kratom being banned is wild, pic rel is a daily sight.
I've gotten bunk 7oh once but im sticking to the bigger brands since they are actually reliable and can hit really hard. they keep it fully exposed, right next to the counter lol. its kind of expensive in person desu, ~28$ for 4 20mg pills, but i'm not a huge fan of the opiate high so i just value them less.
i just can't find a link to a local group tb honest

>>82771505
>so I thought they ride across country borders
They do ride across country borders, but there is no border control between EU countries (mostly), if there isn't some extraordinary precaution for some reason then there's just a sign on a road with the name of a country you are entering and you just drive in without slowing down.

Let's say that hypothetically one were to try to overdose on benzos for the sole purpose of suicide (~400mg xanax) but failed
hypothetically how fucked would they be, both short and long term, mentally speaking?

>>82772434
Hypothetically you'd need to wash them down with a bottle of vodka to have a chance of killing you.

>>82772463
apologies for any ESL like behavior but what im looking for is the long term impacts. hypothetically im no longer suicidal but how fucked am i because of the aforementioned absurdly high dose that the hypothetical decided to take at once with no other CNS depressants

>>82772573
You have higher chance of developing dementia when you get old

>>82772573
Giving yourself an anxiety disorder by dropping a thermonuclear dose on your GABA receptors

>>82756683
DNMs literally just send shit through the mail, as long as you have a postal address you'll be fine

>>82772434
Very fucked short-term, who knows in the long term.

The fact I haven't had a single anxiety attack since I got back on Methylphenidate is so fucked up and bizzare.

>>82767993
dissolve it in water and use an oral syringe to squirt it up your pooper, anon

I always get that craving for Meth the day after doing it. The day after that, I almost feel repulsed at the idea of not doing it at the scheduled days I set for myself. I allow a ~1.5 days session so using any now would be in the range of approved use by my rules. The only things that'd stop me are:

1) My tolerance is way too high, and I won't feel too much even if I finish the whole 500mg baaggie. I always feel disappointed with the second baggie and try to remind myself of that.

2) Using now, dipping into the second baggie, might put my financial calculation out of wack and I'll end up over budget, which I really don't want to do.

3) Dipping into the second baggie might put my dosage allowence out of wack as I use 500mg at 50mg doses, so 10 uses for each baggie. If I do 3 uses now, it'll leave 7 uses next week and I may open another baggie to compensate; which would affect the financial issue referred to above.

Tonight I was left with an extra 150mg at dawn (the end of my sessions) and I took it, insted of saving it like I usually do, for no reason. 350mg was enough to carry me until dawn this week and both weeks before (I seem to use less lately, and only need 350mg to have a good time). So 350mg should carry me until dawn next week as well supposedly (without needing to open another baggie). Thus no harm done to the calculations and it's all going as planned.

My current state of mind is doing 100mg at 12am and 50mg at 12:40am trying to break through the tolerance just a bit.
Or do I just ride out the craving and do nothing?
Idk what to do. What do (you) think?

>>82772921
how fucked are we talking about here? i can already barely remember the last few days, but i have a midterm on the 16th

>>82772076
>They do ride across country borders
So did you or did you not succsessfully smuggle drugs beyond border lines while on a Flixbus?
>there's just a sign on a road with the name of a country you are entering and you just drive in without slowing down
Wow, amazing. Imagine that. Incredible.
Well, that's just easy-mode for smuggling drugs from one country to another.

sonic sez drugs are gay and will turn you gay

Hey is it dangerous to quit an antipsychotic cold turkey? I don't even know why I'm on this shit, I'm not crazy

just took a modafinil to stay up for the 1000km bathhurst, how long until i can go to bed again?

>>82773096
What if I was gay beforehand? will drugs make me double gay? or will Integer overflow kick in and make me straight instead?

>>82773256
its not gonna be fun if youre mentally ill like seriously ill, but youll live

>>82772930
youre just gonna ditch this routine within the month anyways and go to doing it as much as you can thats how it always ends up with meth

I have been 3 years on benzos daily quit and now relapsed for 7 months again daily.

I combined them with alcohol a few times and with odsmt. Atm I'm tapering but my cognitive functioning is really really bad.

My reading comprehension has gone down, my attention span, my processing speed, my short term memory is fucked.

Makes me want to kill myself

>>82771980
>waiting for some ketamine
I see. Hope you get it soon!
>even kratom being banned is wild, pic rel is a daily sight
Not here. Here it's as ilegal as Meth is.
>im sticking to the bigger brands since they are actually reliable and can hit really hard
So I thought. I've heard the bigger brands are better overall. And the smaller ones are bunk.
>they keep it fully exposed, right next to the counter
Here they hide bongs at smokeshops since it's illegal paraphernalia. Bongs are only sold and displyed as "decorative pieces". Though stores that sell Khat will display it right at the entrence for all to see and with signs like your picrel.
>~28$ for 4 20mg pills
Damn, that's pricey. Is it even worth the high at this price? Might be if you split the pills, I've read 20mg is quite a lot so dosing 10mg will be fine, it's like you're paying for 8 pills which is more reasonable. Maybe something to get once in a while, not a habbit.
It isn't like the Kratom addicts that you see on this thread who buy it for cheap online and can sustain a habbit for years without going broke.
>i just can't find a link to a local group tb honest
Keep looking. Try honing in on one subculture like a psychs group or an MDMA group and work from there.

>>82773360
i know a guy like you irl lmao

>>82773429
Really how's that, what's he like

>>82773360
similar situation here, i fucking hate the long term side effects of what is necessary for me to function
but ask yourself, how much are from benzos and how much is from brainrot? since covid, memory has been getting worse and worse for pretty much everyone.

>>82773360
Gonna take a loooong ass time to repair your brain from this, anon. If it ever happens. Enjoy being a zombie

When I smoke weed I hear voices. Are the voices real, or am I just a schitzo? Maybe both

>>82773455
he doesnt relapse he just runs out of xans for a few weeks and tells you he's taking a break from them

>>82773544
weed causes psychotic symptoms in people with dormant psychosis-prone conditions. In other words drop the ganja or else youre going to go full crazy

>>82772928
>The fact I haven't had a single anxiety attack since I got back on Methylphenidate is so fucked up
If you actually have ADHD it should calm you a bit afaik. Ime Ritalin doesn't have a high risk of anxiety as long as you don't abuse it and take it at medical doses, like 10mg, which should be relatively weak and gentle in effects.

>>82773777
so since it doesnt calm me, rather makes me agitated points towards that i dont have adhd and that ive been lied to my whole life?

>>82772930
Stimposting: Overanalyze Your Meth Habit

>>82773384
>legal khat
>kratom is as illegal as meth is

>>82773320
>youre just gonna ditch this routine within the month anyways and go to doing it as much as you can thats how it always ends up with meth
Have been keeping this routine for about 4-6 months quite easily. I do a lot of calculations and have a lot of rules in regard to dosing and budgeting the hobby to make it as safe and addiction free as possible.
I've decided to not take anymore today as the craving went away after a good meal.
It's weird though, the craving comes strong a few hours after I'm done with a session, but a day later I don't even want to be near the stuff.
Until the next Friday, that is, as I already got used to the routine of dosing that day and that day only; with sometimes dosing 100mg the next night if I have any leftover from last night's fixed dose I allow myself. Though I think it's going away, since I don't get high from it anyway, and am too sleep deprived to have any fun.
For tonight I use caffeine; and may pop a couple Ritalins if I feel like it, which I'm not sure yet. We'll see.

Why do normies think they are doing the world a favor by using narcan? Fent users get what they deserve.

>>82772930
Update: I decided not to dipp into the second baggie and take anymore today. I had a good meal and the craving went away. It wouldn't get me high anyway and will drain my resources, so I think I've made the right choice. The second baggie's always disappointing, I must remember.
For tonight, lots of caffeine. Maybe a couple Ritalins if the mood strikes me, but unsure. We'll see.

>>82774070
isn't stacking stims dangerous? you talk about this very casually, you done this before?

>>82773980
>I do a lot of calculations and have a lot of rules in regard to dosing and budgeting the hobby to make it as safe and addiction free as possible.

dude its gonna take one bad day for you to snap hahahahahaha, do you really think you can outsmart addiction? do you think youre somehow magically immune? How many others do you think have went through this exact routine and failed? What makes you different? Absolutely nothing

>>82773981
https://youtu.be/b2Nu8RVhpwY?si=MjR12xQ1dFTfjdkC

https://youtu.be/C0MUowGm7IA?si=dnGCi3TXsphSTTAq

the warmness of the opiates is starting to set in now im in for a ride

>>82763804
got suboxine to get high on when i was in jail cause my friends smuggled it in . i was high for like 10 hours and it was awesome. i should be prescribed to opiates cause it makes me a better person. once i am high i start petting animals and doing work.

https://youtu.be/f757OFPGFmQ?si=krBVUQpGGkDF_DM0

>>82773635
Damn, so I need to quit the weed. That really sucks. hopefully my sanity's still is in tact enough to live a good life.

How long does phenibut take to kick in? Online is saying 2-4 hours. Why so long?

>>82774777
checked
Now you know you're prone to psychosis, I'd say check in with a professional. It's different from a check-in at the dentist, but equally useful.

>>82774777
i dont feel right at all without drugs
and i wonder if its because of having no women ?

>>82773981
>Fent users get what they deserve
Some people do it specifically to fuck with opiate users. I've heard there's groups of people going around SF and narcan'ing anyone they can (usually the homeless), specifically for the purpose to ruin their high and put them into withdrawal, lmao.

i was just going to play socom 2 online but the server is filled 16/16
i play it on the pcsx2 emulator

>>82773950
>Stimposting: Overanalyze Your Meth Habit
This was not a stimpost as the effects of the Meth wore off a few long hours ago. But yeah, I over analyze the habbit. Meth's infamously dangerous and should be treated with care if you do decide to partake. And I tend to over analyze in general as I can be neurotic at times :p

>legal khat
>kratom is as illegal as meth is
Idk which planet you're from, but on Earth, Khat is way more mellow, less risky, or addictive, as Kratom is and it should be common knowledge for you at this point. Khat is a very mild stimulant and you'd have to chew a whole lot of it to get any substantial psychoactive effects you'd consider a proper stim experience, compared to what 15mg-30mg of plain Amphetamine can do to you at no tolerance. On the other hand, Kratom is basically a legal potent opiate and is habbit-forming af, and is being sold as 7OH pills which are also devastatingly addictive and potent.

Btw, Canthinones in all forms apart from plant are illegal here by the Derivitive Prohabition Amendment to the Dangerous Drugs Law (not the laws' exact names).

And yeah, by the Dangerous Drugs Law, Kratom and Meth are in the same category. We don't have Drug Schedules like the USA or Drug Classes like the UK. It's legal, dicriminilized, or strictly illegal; no in-between. But there are exceptions for "narcotic" type drugs with medical uses, like Ritalin or Adderall, whose distribution is heavily regulated.

>>82775139
imagine if drugs were not addicting or we were born always high

>>82774783
It just metabolizes really slow and lasts for even longer. Also remember not to eat anything 4 hours before taking it and 2 hours afterwards, it not only slows it down but you also absorb less of it.

>>82775162
Well, fuck. I wanted to trial a light dose of 500mg but had a meal just before and ate snacks after taking it. Not too worried since I only wanted to see a very very light effect anyway

>>82772573
generally speaking, there are no detrimental long term effects from a single xanax overdose.
apparently in very rare cases your brain won't get enough oxygen and you can get a brain injury, but the symptoms are severe enough that you would've noticed by now

Turns out I can get carbamates over the counter here, are they worth it? and how do soma compare to other depressants such as benzos?

>>82773256
>is it dangerous to quit an antipsychotic cold turkey?
Depends on how long you've taken them and the dosage, but if you've used them for long then there will be backlash. Psychotic episodes are very likely to happen if you have psychosis or predisposition to psychotic breaks. Basically, there will be a lot of chemicals the AP blocked (like Dopamine) flooding your system at once, which can be uncomfortable at best, and can cause all sorts of side effects, like over-sensitivity, mood swings, and restlessness. It's not dangerous per se, but is inadvisable. Better to taper off gradually to avoid withdrawal symptoms.
If you've taken a low dose and/or for a short time then it won't be as complicated to ditch.
>I'm not crazy
Me neither ;^)

what do you guys use instead of archetyp

>>82775162
>>82775219
also, what happens if I take it with weed?

>>82775560
It mixes/goes well, you could probably get a bit higher without having weed anxiety/panic attack. Might make your pretty tired though

Whats /drugfeels/ expierence wtih research chemicals? How do they compare to the real thing? I heard their kinda different like 4-aco-met has a lighter headspace and more visuals. Is this true or just a myth/bullshit?

>>82773360
>My reading comprehension has gone down, my attention span, my processing speed, my short term memory is fucked
Don't panic! The body is really good at self repair and is plastic to its environment. Get in a good setting, take care of yourself, and have planty of rest. You'll be right as rain in no time. As long as you stay away from the drugs and rest you should be on your way to recovery this very moment, despite the unsettling symptoms. It is unfortunately what it is: you must get worse before you get better, and you *will* get better.
Benzo withdrawals sure can be hellish and sometimes lengthy, but you will come out the other side at baseline level again if you commit to abstinence.
Though I won't lie to you, depends on some variables, you could've damaged your brain in a permanent way. Let's hope you didn't get BIND and it's just normal hard withdrawals. I heard stories from anons here who had the very same symptoms, and ended-up just fine after a while off the drug.
Take care, anon.
For general knowledge:
What benzo were you taking?
At what daily dose? How's your tolerance?
For how long did you quit before relapsing?
Where are you getting the benzos from? A scrip, or a dealer?
I don't mean to pry, but it'll give me a better picture of the situation.
Goodluck.

>>82773544
>When I smoke weed I hear voices. Are the voices real, or am I just a schitzo?
I've had many psychotic episodes from smoking Weed and some were accompanied by mocking voices. I quit it and it was one of my better decisions. I am a diagnosed schizophranic and Weed is the only drug that worsens my symptoms to an unmanegable degree. I can trip 250ug LSD and eat 500mg of Meth without any problems or symptoms, but Weed is just pure evil.
The voices are (probably) not real and you need to visit a psychiatrist ASAP to prevent an outbreak of a mental illness, as you seem predisposed to psychosis by what you're saying, and psychotic breaks aren't fun at all. You might have irregular psychosis (that pops up sometimes when the conditions are right), or chronic psychosis (schizophrania), the only ways to find out is either fuck around with Weed or visit a professional. The voices are the worst of it btw. Seriously, fuck the voices to hell. Rat bitches.
It only gets worse from here, so buckle up for a ride.
Also, quit the Weed, fr fr.
Be well, anon.
Goodluck.

>>82773830
>points towards that i dont have adhd and that ive been lied to my whole life?
I've just described the common effect it has on ADHD patiants, but everyone's different. Though you could've been misdiagnosed, idk.
>it doesnt calm me, rather makes me agitated
If it doesn't help you, stop taking it. Simple.
10mg shouldn't be so strong as to give you anxiety imo, but there might be a reason it does, and it's not ADHD.
Talk about those effects with you psychiatrist for more insight and to figure out the possible causes for those reactions from a medical point of view.

From what I heard from ADHD patiants, Ritalin calms their thoughts and focuses them to the point of being functional in a way they couldn't have been without it, it's litterally a life-saver for them; which not seems to be the case with you.
Consider you may:
1) Do not actually have ADHD.
2) Have additional mental illness/es and/or issues.
3) Just react oddly to it due to over-sensitivity or a quirk of your physiology; as everyone's different.
Anyway, hope you figure it out and be well.
Goodluck.

>>82774323
>do you really think you can outsmart addiction? do you think youre somehow magically immune?
The mechanics of addiction development are well known and addiction can be avoided easily using simple rules and by developing good habbits. It's not magic, it's not "outsmarting" addiction, it's just how it works. And so far I've experienced zero withdrawals or cravings in my sober days.
>How many others do you think have went through this exact routine and failed?
There are unfortunate cases, yes. Most wanted more, and redosed too much for too long consecutively, and/or used other ROAs than oral administration. There are a lot of pitfalls for some people. I believe that my strict regimen and list of rules are enough to avoid most if not all of these pitfalls. Also I'm more than satisfied with my current use routine and dosage and don't desire any more from it; I also avoid more addictive ROAs despite them being more potent (one of the biggest pitfalls), as a rule.
>What makes you different?
Litterally nothing. There are a lot of responsible Meth users, who are a silent majority and keep to themselves. They are no different than I am. Some people can handle drugs better than others. It involves many variables but comes down to whether you have your shit together or not. I, as many other responsible independent adults, am mostly well adjusted and have my shit together when it comes to my Meth use. It's that simple. I'm not different, I am just the same as many other users who don't go over the line. You can apply your logic to Alcohol use. Some people drink casually, or even go on a bander at a party at times, but don't get dependent as some other, less adjusted people do. It's as true that Alcohol use is devastatingly addictive to many people as it is true that many people use it responsibly. Again, there are lots of variables in work such as view on life, impulse control, predisposition, and more.
Everyone has their lot in life.
Mine is: I win at Meth :p
End.

>>82774165
>isn't stacking stims dangerous? you talk about this very casually, you done this before?
I don't stack them, I'm off the Meth now for a good day or so. A couple of Ritalins are harmless enough to take for a little pick-me-up. I don't mix stims, apart from caffeine with everything, really. It's redundent and common sense says it's dangerous, especially to the heart, I assume. I do mix stims with downers, though, like benzos at the end of a tweak; to gently come down and float in bliss in bed for a few refreshing hours before taking on the day.

>>82774497
>the warmness of the opiates is starting to set in now im in for a ride
Sounds comfy. Have fun, anon.

>>82774671
>got suboxine to get high on when i was in jail cause my friends smuggled it in . i was high for like 10 hours and it was awesome
Sounds like an interesting story, hehe. You must've had no tolerance which's what made it effectively recreational for you. It's designed for addicts.
>i should be prescribed to opiates cause it makes me a better person
That's how it starts, until you dose for nods and stay inactive for the day.

Theory: Opiates can pull you out of a depressive episode past the initial high.
yay or nay?

thank god im not a drug addict anymore like everyone here

>>82776761
Glad to be a bad example that influences you to make good decisions anon.
Now, allow me to self destruct with my happy pills.

>>82776767
>Glad to be a bad example that influences you to make good decisions anon.
well thanks i guess
>Now, allow me to self destruct with my happy pills.
you should stop, try it

>>82745005 (OP)
I quit antidepressants for alcohol and regret nothing. Nobody actually cares about your mental health struggles and admitting them will likely just get you admitted and ruin your life. It's better to just get fucked up occasionally to relieve the stress, and if it becomes too much to bear even with that, just go out in a blaze of glory that hopefully changes society for the better. Or at least still be able to buy a gun so you can quietly blow your brains out somewhere nobody will find you.

>>82776761
ACTUALLY IM NOT ADDICTED, I ONLY DO HEROIN ON WEDNESDAY AND THE WEEKEND THANK YOU VERY MUCH

>>82776775
>try it
I did because I ran out of money once.
worst fucking time of my life, genuinely can't conceptualize anything worse than the feeling of limbo, self-disgust and just sheer anger at being real and alive with no way out of it.

>>82776783
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lckf6aOA0Ps&list=RDlckf6aOA0Ps&start_radio=1
he's real
>Nobody actually cares about your mental health struggles
also real

>>82776784
>I ONLY DO HEROIN
that's pretty bad if ur not lying
>>82776796
>I did because I ran out of money once.
>worst fucking time of my life, genuinely can't conceptualize anything worse than the feeling of limbo, self-disgust and just sheer anger at being real and alive with no way out of it.
i deal with that every day kek

>>82775147
>magine if drugs were not addicting
It's not rhe addiction, it's the tolerance that fucks everything up. But yeah, could've been nice.
>or we were born always high
No way. I like sobriety almost as I like being high. Being at baseline is very comforting for me.

>>82775415
>Turns out I can get carbamates over the counter here, are they worth it?
From reading about it, they don't have recreational potential and are used to treat brain disease. You'd prolly won't feel anything.

>>82776799
I love him and am subscribed. He makes nothing but bangers. Also, the hardest I've ever tripped in my life was a 4th plateau deslym high and I've done legitimate lsd and shrooms. The only thing that compared was DMT.

>>82776783
>just go out in a blaze of glory that hopefully changes society for the better.
I would disagree with you but ending my existence is probably a net-positive for society anyways.

>>82777007
It almost certainly is and that's almost certainly why you shouldn't. Be as big a burden as possible for as long as possible instead, make them pay to keep you alive for another hundred years, that's more effective. Burden maxxing is the wave of the future.

Yes, anon. I purposely go out of my way to give you narcan to ruin your high, and not because you are not breathing from you being an idiot who OD'd

>>82755777
Don't take it. Its not worth it. I took that stuff for months and it made me into an addict quickly. The high only lasts 20-30min and the withdrawals start coming 5 hours-ish later. It also demands higher doses quickly so you'll end up taking 20mg to get the same effect as 10mg would normally get you.

>>82776863
With carbamates I mean like, carisoprodol and that kind of stuff, supposedly soma has a big recreational potential since it's a muscle relaxant and a gabaergic, so I was wondering.

>>82774912
>Some people do it specifically to fuck with opiate users. I've heard there's groups of people going around SF and narcan'ing anyone they can (usually the homeless), specifically for the purpose to ruin their high and put them into withdrawal, lmao.
Based

>>82774912
That's probably the definition of "Chaotic Good"

I ditched a fetish I had as a kid for over 10 years. Weed makes the fetish I thought I had ditched come back. The fetish basically mind controls me on weed but I don't indulge in it otherwise. Why is this? Do I still have the fetish and weed just lowers my inhibitions? It's weird how I become obsessed with it on weed but not off weed.

>>82777629
Weed lowers inhibitions similar to alcohol so basically you're more susceptible to it while you're high than if you're sober. Stop getting high and indulging and it should stop being a problem.

Took 700mg of DPH for the first time in a few years and I will never understand why people say its unpleasant. pair it with a konopin and you wont be bugging over voice lol

>>82745973
any opoid since you wont feel most of the pain and it will be as simple as falling asleep and not waking up. low vegetation/addict risk

>>82777825
me
this isnt as fun as i remember would coffe help?

Just accidentally fell and spilled bunch of shit all over my room. Looking forward to my room smelling like shit for a few days hahaha

>>82777904
I know the cigs caused it because
A) I am an alcoholic who drinks booze every night
B) I smoke weed every night
C) This has gone on for many many years
D) I started smoking cigs yesterday
E) I never fall like that and spill all my shit
F) Therefor the nicotine caused it

Took a line of coke before gym and hit the weights like no tomorrow, highly recommend; gonna take some GHB now, while it rains.

>>82777825
>I will never understand why people say its unpleasant.
>this isnt as fun as i remember
The joke wrote itself, can't you sleep it off if it's not that good?

When will I learn NOT to mix opiates and cigarettes together??
fuck nausea

What's the difference between red, green and white vein kratom in terms of effects besides white and green vein being stimulating and red vein sedating? Which one gives more opioid-like euphoria and is there a point in using red vein kratom outside of pain relief? I've read that red vein kratom is just sedating if you don't have pain to relieve

>>82745005 (OP)
>go on a ritalin binge wednes-thurs.
>stimfap and don't even enjoy it too much
>take some today and a 15mg dex xr
>too late to clean and too tired/not desiring to stimfap
why am i like this?

Fuck, shouldn't have trusted myself to not abuse this prescription.

I took more than i intended fuckkkk

>>82778894
People can't die from ODing when they do it on purpose, you definitely won't die either :>

>>82778935
I know that nothing will happen and that i am still way under the limit but i just don't feel right now.

>>82778953
U should be good anyways, Lie down and try to chill.

My brain does not know what's coming next, either sobriety, or 3 straight days of compulsive redosing, no in-between.
Spirit animals are fucking boring, so what's your spirit household appliance?
Mine's a vacuum cleaner.

>>82779029
I dunno if i can lay or sit still at all for the next 8 hours. My mouth is so dry and im so thirsty but i know that its all fake, i have enough water. The constant toilet runs are killing me tho arghhhhh.

>>82779103
Oh, I'm presuming you took stims
I don't really know what advice I can give you since I never done them myself, but hang in there man.

just went into DMT joker face reality

>>82777533
Yeah, carisoprodol seems to have potential.

Are you all doing drugs recreationally or do you take meds you are actually prescribed?

>>82779112
yeah stims. its the same dose i take every day but at once instead of spaced out two portions.
Just uncomfortable but its better now, thanks!

>>82779341
I take the meds I'm prescribed as prescribed. I just so happen to know a person who has some goods that I can take to relax every once in awhile.

>>82779341
>Are you all doing drugs recreationally or do you take meds you are actually prescribed?
Both. Yeah, both is good.

>>82779366
>>82779367
Won't the recreational use get in the way of the prescribed meds having proper effect?

>>82779567
>Won't the recreational use get in the way of the prescribed meds having proper effect?
Not at all. I take my daily medication regularly, and sometimes use drugs recreationally. They have no contradicting effects, or if so, they're negligible.
Like APs' effects contradict my stim use effects, but it's hardly noticable, if at all.

>>82779624
Alright, cheers. Stay safe bro.

I just wanted to feel loved and now im 200 miles from home at 05:44 am and depressed off the LSD

>>82779263
Alr, one of these days I'm going to buy the 350mg pills and I'll tell you guys if it got me fucked up

>>82779789
>Alr, one of these days I'm going to buy the 350mg pills and I'll tell you guys if it got me fucked up
Sounds good. Do report back, it's interesting.

>>82779654
I have never had a good lsd trip, shrooms were mostly great, 2cb was decent after puking, but lsd always overstays it's welcome and it fucks with your sleep schedule.
fuck lsd.

>>82779942
NTA.
>lsd always overstays it's welcome and it fucks with your sleep schedule
I like LSD's long lasting effects, as I prefer a longer trip. Also, if you take it a bit before noon, it shouldn't mess with your sleep that much.
Never did shrooms or 2CB though.

>>82780174
Hopefully I manifest someone who likes lsd into my life so I can give away the rest of the tabs I have, or take all 8 of them and see what happens to my brain.

bad news
my pregabalin supplier is getting out of stock
i should reduce my dossage daily

My doctor has me on 150mg of venlafaxine and 150mg of bupropion right now. Still want to put a bullet in my mouth. Have tried different antidepressants now for 8 months. None of which had done fuckall. Which made me think: are these pills actually supposed to make you happier? Or what is the point of all this shit?

>>82780184
>so I can give away the rest of the tabs I have
Wish I was there to take them off your hands.
>take all 8 of them and see what happens to my brain
Maybe experiment to see how you could yield a good trip? LSD's effects are awefully predictible at 100ug-250ug doses and could definitly give you a good trip in the right conditions. Don't write it off untill you've had a proper trip.

>>82780421
>Still want to put a bullet in my mouth
While these medications will balance/increace the happy chemicals in your brain, they won't change your life view. It is therefore advised to couple medicinal treatment with psychotherapy, to gain a more positive outlook that will go along with the medications' effects. It could also be your environmental conditions. Those could contribute to your poor prespective on life, so you might want to act by making yourself a better setting to recover in. Say, you live at home, might be a good idea to move out. You could also try taking walks around the park, to get some sun/exercise, and get social exposure or see some nature; that would calm your mind for sure and will be beneficial to your mental state.
Hope you get better soon, anon.
Goodluck!

>>82780421
For normal people, they make you numb, dull your emotions.
In my case, they made me cycle fast from manic to depressive. The only drug that didn't cause mixed episodes and worked was a mood stabilizer.

>>82780714
I am doing cognitive behavioral therapy. I live in my own apartment and every day I either go to the gym or go for a walk around nature (about 60-70 mins). Whenever I am in a social setting, i.e. at the doctors, at work, at my parents, at the gym, etc I just long for when I can go back home. And when I am home I just think about offing myself every second I'm awake. Thanks for taking your time.

>>82780750
Tried ecitalopram and I honestly couldn't tell if I ate it or not. Felt no effects or side effects at all. Whenever I have upped the venlafaxine dose the depression has hit real bad for a day or two. Like laying on the kitchen floor with a plastic bag over my head "to see how the panic feels"-kind of bad. Then it's back to "I wish I would just fall asleep forever"-bad. Have tried mirtazapine and ketipinor for a more healthy sleep. Right now Im 10 hours in bed and waking up half a dozen times or so during every night. So now Im eating bupropion to try to counteract the sleepiness during the day (even if I have "slept" 10 hours).

Been doing this shit now since february and I'm not any better off than I was at this point last year. Maybe I should just quit all of it and go back to boozing.

>>82780765
Consider giving Ketamine therapy a try.

>>82781178
I don't know if the place I live can do something of the sort. I live extremely remotely in the Nordics. We only have a small healthcare place in town. And if I ask the psychiatrist about it he probably just thinks Im a junkie out for a high.
Anyway, thanks for your time /drugfeel/.

>>82781321
>if I ask the psychiatrist about it he probably just thinks Im a junkie out for a high
Surely not if he knows the severity of your problem.
The only other option is salf madicating:
*Opiates can help, providing you've got the willpower to dose responsibly and avoid addiction.
*Ketamine still might help on its own.
*Psychedelics may turn you in the right direction.
*Stimulants might give you a reason to wake up in the morning, also providing you've got the discipline to use them correctly.
*MDMA can help you proccess complex emotions and is generally fun to do.
Goodluck, anon.

>>82781532
>*Stimulants might give you a reason to wake up in the morning,
what do you mean?

>>82781747
>what do you mean?
They'll give you something to look forward to at the weekends. They make everything more interesting and give euphoria and drive as well as clearing out your mind.

>>82780765
Lamictal helped me a lot more than any anti depressant ever did, but honestly, the only thing that's really going to help is doing therapy and intentionally working to change your worldview. The drugs just mask the pain and also give you a ton of terrible side effects. Getting on TRT did more to help me than any mental health drug ever did also.

You'll probably hate this advice but being sober will also help. You really do just have to rawdog life until you can handle it, and only then can you have a drink. Would recommend avoiding cannabis for a long while if not forever as that also helped me a lot. As for drinking, keep it to once a week and don't be a retarded asshole and drive while you're drunk.

>>82775716
I take pyrazolam 3mg to now 1,5mg daily
I quit a few months
Dealer
Tolerance, it still works so idk

>>82782168
>pyrazolam 3mg
Oh, it's you!
You make it seem like you're a new person everytime you post, hehe.
Man, your journey sure seems rough. I thought you were gonna take Muscimol to aid with withdrawals?
I beileve you'll recover, but can't guarantee it'll be a short recovery, considering.
Last time I've heard from you, you seemed to be getting better, so I am sad to see you've hit a snag lately.
How're you feeling now?
All the luck and feel well!
And keep us up to date, anon, we're here for you.

>>82782428
Thanks, in general I feel shit but that's despitebthe benzos.

I use agmatine but get loud gurgling noises in my gut when I take it, though it helps. Usually take muscimol in the evening.

>tfw drinking some vodka sodas, listening to UK garage and wearing jewellery

feels good man

>>82782806
>and wearing jewellery
that makes you feel good?

>>82782428
Do you think muscimol is as bad as benzos ?

>>82782815
yeah, I only go to work really, can't wear my shit there, I don't go out, so wearing my gold chain, bracelet and rings makes chilling with a buzz feel better. try it some time

>>82749132
you don't need drugs for anxiety. you need to put yourself in gradually harder and harder situations. when I started my first job my anxiety thing was feeling like i would shit myself out of fear. imagine being in meetings and thinking that. viscerally and with all intensity. gradually, i got over it and now i don't give a fuck. get a job and use it as a training course to get over your shit. you get paid too which is a bonus. godspeed nigger *farts*

>>82783061
what if I'm anxious that a car's tire is gonna explode? or the guy in the next corner is going to stab me? what the hell do I do then?

>>82749132
supposedly venlafaxine (brand name effexor, also it's an SNRI not an SSRI) is the most effective for anxiety and panic attacks.
but it's also the hardest one to get off of, because if you miss even a single dose you'll feel like hell because of how short its half life is which makes getting off of it especially difficult
I'd just stick to the basic ssris (e.g., zoloft or lexapro)

>>82783117

>a car's tire is gonna explode?

Be aware of and content with the reality of death. A plane's engine can dislocate and fall over your house and crush you as you type. Keep your car in good maintenance and if your tire explodes, so be it.

>or the guy in the next corner is going to stab me?

Don't go to areas frequented by non-whites and poors, get physically fit, and have situational awareness. don't go out in public with headphones. Watch people out of the corner of your eye and be ready to fight to the death. If you're not confident in your fighting prowess, train mma and use the time you spend here (at least 2 hours a week, minimum) and train mma.

God i wish those were my problems. So much easier to deal with than thinking your bowels would violently explode at any second in front of people.

>>82782903
>Do you think muscimol is as bad as benzos ?
Are you asking me (OP)? I never used Muscimol, but it definitely is not as bad as benzos. By reading about it, it has a very small risk of physical dependence, and is more likely to cause psychological addiction, if at all; despite acting similarly to benzos, biologically.

>>82783171
>Keep your car in good maintenance and if your tire explodes, so be it.
I dont have a car, I'm not allowed to drive, I meant cars in the street
>Don't go to areas frequented by non-whites and poors
lol thats really funny
>Watch people out of the corner of your eye and be ready to fight to the death
its hard when my heartrate goes through the roof every time im passing by a person, if they actually tried to do something to me id pass out
>So much easier to deal with than thinking your bowels would violently explode at any second in front of people.
can you stop the pissing contest? thanks

>>82783171
NTA.
I think the anon was trying to describe their problems with anxiety. Specifically, dealing with irrational fears and worries.

>>82783260
>can you stop the pissing contest? thanks

You sound like a resentful woman. Maybe you can't be helped. Get over your ego and follow my advice. Otherwise take drugs and get juden petersteined off benzos.

>>82783210
I will replace it for benzos u til I'm completely clean.
Problem is I have on trusted amanita vendor and the regalis (strongest) is sold out constantly

>>82783304
why the hell are you in this thread?

>>82783281
>problems with anxiety


Anxiety is the easiest shit to get over. You're not psychotic nor suicidally depressed (from what I gather). Anxiety can be overcome through progressive action, take a small step, recover, take a larger step, introduce a healthier habit, and repeat ad infinitum, GRADUALLY

I'm drunk so I'm not the most sensitive but I just want yall to know anxiety is beatable, much more easily than psychosis and suicidal depression

>>82783317

I'm in drugfeel not pussies anonymous. Is this reddit? Do we really get butthurt and ask why people are on their site? Are we triggered? Faggot go downvote me.

>>82783328
NTA, but people estimate how severe anxiety can get. Your run of the mill anxiety can be easily overcome, sure. But some people have such debilitating anxiety that you would not believe. It can get much, much, much worse than the average person assumes it can.

>>82783309
>I will replace it for benzos u til I'm completely clean
Sounds like a plan. Do report back on how effective it is as a rehab method as well as how it feels in general, compared to real benzos.

>>82783171
>thinking your bowels would violently explode at any second in front of people
Nta. Why do you think that?

>>82783365

Maybe, but what's the worst thing anxiety can make you think? That you're going to die? I lol at death. Maybe heart palpitations can be scary but other than that, what? You're afraid people won't like you? Come on man.

>>82783339
no because you obv dont care about drugs, also I asked you why you are on this thread not site

>>82783402

It was just an irrational fear which anxiety causes

>>82783419

I'm drunk nigger obviously I fuck with drugs

What are YOU on right now?

>>82783328
Some people have severe anxiety *disorders* (i.e, clinicaly recognized) that cannot be beat by exposure therapy. Some peole's anxiety is crippling and powerful, more than you can imagain.

>>82783418
it can make you dizzy, you cant think straight, you cant make the simplest of decisions, you can become extremely sensitive to light, sound, smell, your bpm can stay abnormally high for hours or days, you cant eat food because your stomach refuses everything, you start having breathing problems and in turn cant sleep, you cant remember anything and cant learn anything, your brain stops trying to process anything, in the end you become very depressed and have to deal with constant shivering, headaches, and chest problems

>>82783426
>It was just an irrational fear which anxiety causes
I think that that's the kind of thing the anon was trying to describe.

>>82783418
>Maybe, but what's the worst thing anxiety can make you think
Chronic anxiety is hell on your body, that much stress and anxiety over years will literally deteriorate you from the inside out. My BP used to go over the 200s just from something as simple as a check up at a primary care doctor where they genuinely thought I was getting ready to have a heart attack.

>>82783464
Fair enough if you guys want to downvote me and ask why I'm in a thread and get sensitive to light like literal autistic children then I'm out, have a good one yall

>>82783418
NTA.
>but what's the worst thing anxiety can make you think?
I don't think it's about what it makes you think, but how it makes you feel about it.

>>82783513
dude are you retarded? are meningitis patients just "autistic children" too then? do you think only autistic people are sensitive to light

>>82745005 (OP)
Anyone know what ketamine therapy is like? Like the actual programs administed by a doctor. Has anyone ever been to one, because I've never done ket in the first place and just want to know what I'm in for.

>>82783615
They just charge you thousands for microdose sessions it's retarded

>>82783379
Well I do some in the evening they're basically valium. But I read they are neuroprotective still don't quite understand, it's still a central nervous system depressant.

Plus there's ibotanic acid which creates brain lessions when injected in mice

>>82783696
So it's not worth it? My doctor hyped it up like it's amazing and I should give it a try.

>>82783770
I mean if you can get your insurance to cover it all then might as well try it but I would keep expectations low. Any doctor recommending it is likely getting a kickback

>>82783805
I don't think any insurances cover it because it's not FDA approved, I'd be paying out of pocket. My insurance does cover the esketamine nasal spray, though I don't know what the difference between that and a regular ketamine infusion.

>>82783770
It works according to people I know that went through it, and microdosing is the therapeutic dose. It does bring in relief and quickly. However, like the other anon said: it's absurdly expensive. My insurance will not even pay for it.

There's also that you have to go through regular maintenance sessions as eventually the effects will wear off, so it's not a great long term solution if relief from say depression is what you are seeking. BUT, that is what a lot go through anyway with us who say, for example, take benzos as a PRN for when something arises (e.g. major panic attacks when our standard techniques are not working like grounding.)

So, just like everything else: evaluate the pluses and minuses, and make your own decision. There's always going to pros and cons to something.

>>82776170
>From what I heard from ADHD patiants, Ritalin calms their thoughts and focuses them to the point of being functional in a way they couldn't have been without it, it's litterally a life-saver for them;
Yeaaah my entire goddamn life fell apart after I got cut off and I'm still picking up the pieces.

>>82783913
why cant you get more?

>>82783935
Moved doctors and afterwards got treated like I was asking for twenty grams of Heroin #4 a week paid for by the general public.
I have finally gotten it back but it was living. hell.

>>82783960
once you actually get diagnosed and realize that it helps you, I think its dumb to meddle with doctors

>>82783913
>my entire goddamn life fell apart after I got cut off and I'm still picking up the pieces
Oh, for a second I thought you were That Anon, and by being "cut off" you ment fired and didn't get how that related to the subject, hehe.
Why can't you get a new script? If impossible, go for street Amphetamine and dose as you would Ritalin, it'll do the same thing; and is available, and cheap, as well.

>>82783998
I have a new script now but it took years of being put on the worst shit imaginable.
>Street Amp
Tried but supply is always so inconsistent and washing it down to useful levels gets super fucked. Caffeine poisoning from untreated street speed is suifuel after a few days of therapeutic use.
>>82783979
I know I just had to.

>>82783711
>Well I do some in the evening they're basically valium
Done benzos but never Valium. Is it a long lasting?

>>82784093
Yes it's a few hours depending on dosage vendor potency etc.

You got to take the regalis ones instead of the muscaria ones, they're like 3 times or so more potent

>>82784093
NTA, valium is supposedly long acting (extremely long half life) but I stop noticeably feeling the effects after about 5 hours.

>>82784027
>the worst shit imaginable
e.g.?
>supply is always so inconsistent and washing it down to useful levels gets super fucked
Idk how's it like where you're at, but here it is very available. Also I'm afraid to wash it so never did and was fine. Though it did had a chemical taste I wasn't sure about.
>Caffeine poisoning from untreated street speed is suifuel after a few days of therapeutic use
At therapeutic doses (10mg-30mg) you shouldn't be at risk of caffeine poisoning; you'd need about 5g of pure powdered caffeine to OD, though even 1g-1.5g can be uncomfortable.

>>82784225
>At therapeutic doses (10mg-30mg) you shouldn't be at risk of caffeine poisoning; you'd need about 5g of pure powdered caffeine to OD, though even 1g-1.5g can be uncomfortable.
Poisoning doesn't have to be deadly.
>e.g.?
SSRIs, antipsychotics, NDRIs that triggered 8 years of panic attacks etc.

>>82784133
>long acting due to extremely long half life
>stop noticeably feeling the effects after about 5 hours
Yeah, as I read, the effects last 4-6 hours but half-life is very long, lasting 50 hours, and its motabolite a 100 hours. It also sticks to fatty tissue like cannabinoids do and can stay in the body for days with prolonged use.

>>82784126
>You got to take the regalis ones instead of the muscaria ones, they're like 3 times or so more potent
I'll remember that if I ever find a way to source it. It's a novel drug so no dealers I know sell it. Maybe I could find something on the clearnet as a supplement in capsule form.

>>82784411
Just Google "buy amanita" and 20 vendors pop up dude it's completely legal

I feel like i cant do anything but lay in bed when i dont have drugs. Does anyone else feel this way?

>>82784411
It is on the clearnet there various vendors but not all of them are good, I know two one in Europe and one for America.

>>82784276
>Poisoning doesn't have to be deadly
Ofc. At some high doses lower than LD50 it can be uncomfortable. But at the therapeutic doses I mentioned, you prolly won't even get that.
>SSRIs, antipsychotics, NDRIs that triggered 8 years of panic attacks etc
Shit, dude, what's your diagnosis? I just told my psychiatrist I tried 10mg Ritalin from a friend, and it helped me, and was prescribed it the day of; complete with an ADHD diagnosis I don't think I truely deserve.

>>82784442
I feel like I don't wanna do anything but lay in bed when I have drugs, being high makes browsing this shithole all day tolerable

>>82784523
>I just told my psychiatrist I tried 10mg Ritalin from a friend, and it helped me, and was prescribed it the day of; complete with an ADHD diagnosis I don't think I truely deserve
nta but some doctors will literally not listen to a word you say after a certain point, once you tell them how you feel they immediately connect it to a drug and you can't sever that connection no matter what

Let's assume I go to a psychiatrist with my agoraphobia along with a depressive episode, what will they give me?
I'm not gonna mention drugs or substance abuse so that all options are on the table.

>>82784524
i said the opposite of that
i have no attention span when im not high

>>82784613
I knew what I was saying had almost nothing to do with what you said but I posted it anyways :)

Anyone know of a cheap tianeptine vendor? All the ones Google spits out at me are absurdly expensive given how cheap and powerful 7oh is in comparison

>>82784430
>>82784443
It is legal, but not approved by the Minestry of Health. And importing anything not approved by the MoH internationally is illegal. But there must be domestic vendors.

>>82784540
>once you tell them how you feel they immediately connect it to a drug and you can't sever that connection no matter what
Lucky I didn't get that kind of doctor. Good doctors will keep up to date with how you're feeling, and will adjust as needed.

>>82784593
i got propranolol and bupropion with the same diagnoses
maybe if you are lucky they will give you benzos or some shit but in my case it was a wasted attempt and years after i still abuse alcohol to be able to go buy groceries

>>82784593
Usually? At first, the usually SSRI, SNRI, mood stabilizers, etc bs. For me, it never worked. It wasn't until I had a major breakdown and even had a panic attack in the psych's office thst resulted in my psych prescribing it.

ketamine + this https://soundcloud.com/acidgeorge_live/hinz-und-kunz-coburg-01062024

>>82782922
kino. keep living the good life anon

>>82784593
>>82784881
>>82785376
Y'all should try private psychiatrists. They'll listen to you, and will prescribe the good shit from the get-go. Got 2 APs with virtually no side effects (after a short trial-and-error period), 2 types of benzos (Lorazepam and Clonazepam) and a Ritalin script; no need to beg or guide the conversation by much, just mention symptoms, or say I tried Ritalin once from a friend and found it helpful. All of which are a life-saver! Worth the money and payed for itself with peace of mind.
Also got a benzo (Brotizolam) script from a public doctor once, for sleep issues, without any difficulty (he listed 3 types and told me to choose one). Getting anymore from him is very hard, though; as he is an "ethical" doctor.
t. schizo with false ADHD and anxiety diagnoses

>>82785865
>private psychiatrists
What do you mean by that? Psychiatrists who own their own practice?

what would be the advantages of switching to dexedrine vs ritalin ir?

>>82785948
>What do you mean by that? Psychiatrists who own their own practice?
Yes, psychiatrists who are not affiliated with/employed by public healthcare services. They'll go above and beyond for you, as *you* pay them, not the public healthcare system. They're more liberal with diagnoses and prescriptions.

cheap wine!

went on a night walk with the firefly, I forgot how amazing the terps from dry herb vapes are. I hope to do many more sessions this winter.

>>82775139
> the effects of the Meth wore off a few long hours ago
you total dipshit

>>82784593
I burned out from work and that made the depression come back big. I self-diagnosed with depression for 10-15 years or so. But this year I couldn't even fake I was fine anymore so I went to a shrink. They got me trying SSRIs, SNRIs (with or without NDRIs), tricyclics. Still got heart palpitations, my chest feels like a rock, and I wanna blow my brain out every day.
This is not to scare you away, getting "help" I still believe is the best thing for me. It's just to try to illustrate the fact that when you go speak to someone, be prepared that it's gonna take time until they find something that works. Sure some docs are gonna put you on benzos from the go but that is like using a sledgehammer to try to hammer in what may be a small nail. With all the terrible side-effects that come with it.

>>82780291
for her, id mail my 300mg pills

>>82787184
>you total dipshit
Whatq? Why?

Is it ok to inject small particles of crushed up M30 pills? I've already done this a few times yesterday, but I'm just wondering if if it's doing anything fucked up in my body.

>>82788998
I'm using 31-gauge needles and it's mostly cocaine. The cocaine dissolved fine in the water. I filled these up yesterday. I haven't gotten sick or anything, and I did this without knowing how to properly inject shit, other than using a tourniquet and pulling back to make sure I'm actually in a vein.

>>82786947
>night walk
Based. I haven't been on a night ride in a while. It's always a good time for night walks though.

>>82788998
If you get air bubbles in your veins you die

>>82788998
>>82789011
>>82789394
I've been a steroids user since August 2024. You want to get the air bubbles out of the syringes before injecting, but small amounts of air typically don't do anything. Iirc, it's only potentially an issue if it's around 0.3ml of air or so. Anyway, considering the large particles from the M30 pills and the fact that some nasty bacteria could potentially be growing in those syringes, I might just remove the needle and pump this stuff in my sinuses later, unless there's something wrong with that. I was injecting this shit into my veins just yesterday without issue, though. Would my sinuses get rid of the large particles they can't absorb or would I still get sick from whatever bacteria could potentially be growing in there?

>>82788998
>>82789011
>>82789394
>>82789708
Looks like I got lucky last time. I need to cook the stuff in a sterile cooker, then I need to pull the stuff in with a needle with a filter, then I need to change the needle again before injection.

Now, I'm just wondering what I should do with the stuff already in the syringes I prepared. I don't like the idea of nasty bacteria gradually building up in those syringes.

>>82777835
This is more or less true and I'd definitely pick opis for suicide or drug I have to overdose on. But having nearly OD'd and died a handful of times now, I will say it is still a pretty scary experience. I guess a large enough dose at once might be too quick for you to think much, but for me there was a moment where realizing I'm not breathing and also unable to move which is scary. You are feeling physically quite pleasant but the pleasure becomes background noise to the panic of "I'm not breathing" and "I can't move" but also even the panic starts getting subdued and suffocated out. I guess my point is that even opi overdose is gonna probably be a good bit unpleasant of a way to die. But then I guess there probably are no ways to die without some discomfort or pain.

Sometimes my gabapentin high feels like it's making me lose control of my sanity. The worst part is you dont know if you've been overdosed or not until you're already feeling that way. And even despite feeling crazy, I have an urge to redose, as if that will help

I redirected my gabapentin high to smash bros. In 7 hours I'm going to see Circle Jerks and Adolescents. I should have started dosing later. Thanks for reading my blog

>>82789708
>steroids user
>small amounts of air typically don't do anything
There is a big difference between injecting things into your muscle tissue and getting air into your veins, the former is not a big deal while the latter can kill you.

>>82791994
Lmao this fr fr

These fucking losers on smash always plug or kill themselves it doesnt matter who I play but they especially do it when I'm Samus. Fucking losers just get good

>>82791994
>>82792151
When you inject air into your muscle, it gradually gets absorbed into your blood stream. It's still bad to inject air into your muscle, but iirc, it needs to be around 0.3ml for it to potentially be problematic. If you inject oils into your muscle, you can start coughing pretty quickly due to the oil getting into your lungs.

>>82791994
>>82792151
I always point the needle up and push out the air before injecting. However, when you inject air into your muscle, it gradually gets absorbed into your blood stream. It's still bad to inject air into your muscle, but iirc, it needs to be around 0.3ml for it to potentially be problematic. If you inject oils into your muscle, you can start coughing pretty quickly due to the oil getting into your lungs.

>>82791827
Based fellow punk pilled anon

>>82776610
bro you know that alcohol kills more people than drug overdoses, wars, and terrorism combined in the US, and is a leading cause of preventable death globally?

>>82793460
Today I visited the apu store near the station and there was an alchie filling his bag.

The jeet helped him load it all in, they were budies they were making jokes and shaking hands.

Obviously the old guy was an addict, and for some reason the apu always has a black eye. Maybe they share camaraderie in being alcoholics

>>82793321
Its gonna be awesome seeing these 60 year old geezer rock out the foundational punk they created. I'm excited. 3.5 more hours

>>82792817
Just be careful anon

>>82793649
Sounds sad. I've stepped away from booze for a few months now and while I'm still an anxious wreck I feel much better overall. Booze is jew juice

45 years of Group Sex. Circle Jerks are playing it in its entirety and I'm gonna be on klonopin, gabapentin, and 7oh. People will probably notice lol

God why did I do this to myself.. I take pseudoindoxyl again just half a tablet but of course it has such awful effects even just 1 time use. Evil drug.

>>82794666
Never heard of that, what class of drug is it? Don't be afraid to go to the ER if you need to

>>82794707
Eh it's basically sold here as replacement chemical after 7oh was banned. Extremely processed synthetic opiod. It is ridiculously powerful and has just awful effects. Extremely sedating for hours and hours followed by a comedown I'd compare to full blown benzo withdrawals. Awful miserable stuff. Throwing the rest away.

>>82794755
Damn. These high powered kratom extracts are nuts

>>82794755
>>82794908
Where do you live that 7oh is banned? I have a awful curious desire to try these new ones that are even more powerful. But damn, even 7oh withdrawals are hell. I dont wanna go through worse than that

>>82794957
tfw started taking 7ho at work....
Took kratom everyday and its just easier to take 7ho. Have a 30 count bottle of 10 mg tablets. Took 50 mg today at work. Woke up today just painfully constipated. Had the shakes. And I take xanax xr 2 mg every single day. So mixing that on top.

>>82794957
Georgia. It's banned here and in South Carolina and a few other states here in tha south. Every place just immediately switched to pseudoindoxyl instead. Trust my when I say 7oh is better in every way except maybe duration. Idk why but pseudo will have me absolutely slumped and nodding for like half the day before it finally subsides enough for me to be able to move again. But it isn't euphoric at all. It's like fent in that way, and also the withdrawals are far, far, far worse than 7oh wds (which you're already aware are very bad themselves). Also w/ds start way quicker with pseudoindoxyl.

It's funny because it's still such a niche, novel chemical the internet still doesn't have much information on it but I guarantee as the months go on you'll start hearing more horror stories about just how demonic pseudoindoxyl is. I try to warn everyone I can to not touch that drug.

Also: for 7oh w/ds kratom helped (somewhat) if I took enough. That's not the case with pseudoindoxyl withdrawals. Kratom does nothing to help.
>>82795045
Ye that's how I started as well, taking 7oh at work because I hate my job so much. Then I'd run out before my next package arrived so I'd buy pseudoindoxyl in the meantime and that was a bad choice.

It sucks, I was in a legal state yesterday and planned to buy a bunch to stock up on the drive home, but my friends little sister asked at the last second to ride with me. I didn't want her to see me buying that shit, I tried stopping 3 times at different stores to "buy a drink" or "use the bathroom" but none of the ones I stopped at had 7oh and I could tell she was getting suspicious.

Guess I should've just not given af. Now I ended up taking pseudo again

>>82794409
Combination that is ill advised

>>82795117
And before all this I was hugely into odsmt but then all the good vendors disappeared and whatever I could find online was both too expensive and not good quality. I prefer 7oh because it's way more convenient to dose. But I love odsmt because it has such a long duration and a clean feeling to it. Usually full 8 hours of unceasing euphoria and it leaves without any come-down or crash. It was so nice when I worked 8 hour shifts because I'd pour it in a water bottle and drink right as I'm going into work. Would be chilled tf out the entire work day and it would end right as I'm leaving.

People online describe odsmt withdrawals as comparable to heroin/fent withdrawals. But for me I used it for months straight every day multiple times a day, and found the withdrawals bad but mostly manageable as long as I used plain leaf kratom for the first 24 - 48hours. I'd probably lose 1 full day of my life but then be functional again by day 2. Which made it easy enough to just kick it on my weekends without having to call out of work. I did this 4 times without any issue.

7oh by contrast is much worse withdrawals than odsmt, at least in my experience.

>>82795144
I know. But I have high tolerance to all of them and they aren't even seating my anxiety currently. I'm about to leave and I feel like an alien

>>82795117
Thanks for all the info. I will heed your words and stay away from it, even though nodding for the whole day off one dose sounds attractive

>>82795174
Yeah, all the old chems are gone and everyone is switching to high powered kratom extracts. Most will probably be banned soon enough but they will just come up with a new one

>>82795045
You're like me except I take klonopin instead of Xanax. None of it is working anymore for my anxiety and its just staying off with withdrawals. I'm scared for our future bro. We'll probably make it and get off these drugs but it wont feel good

has anyone ever tried "mejicon"? i see it a lot on japanese twitter, whats the high feel like?

>>82793934
I don't think I'm going to inject that stuff again. Those three syringes have a bit of coke in them, even though they're mixed with opioid pills. I want to preserve the coke somehow. I don't like looking at those syringes, and I wouldn't want bacteria growing in them.

>>82788998
>>82789011
>>82795668
How would you anons recommend I go about preserving the contents of these syringes?

>>82795668
Yeah, probably seemed like a good idea at the time but its jot hygienic. You gotta be absolutely sure of safety when IVing

This geezer punk show is awesome. The thing is, I'm on 6mg klonopin, about 40mg 7oh, and half my prescription bottle of gabaoentin 600mg tabs. I had a cocktail and a big beer kn top of this. And I just dont feel any of it. I'm calm and loose but not "high"". I suppose I should appreciate just not being anxious. Group Sex from front to back in like 10 min. I'm so lucky to see these guys while theyre still around. I can't imagine spending 45 years playing material you made as a teen though

>>82745005 (OP)
How many days/weeks can I take Valium daily in a row before I become physically dependent? I've been doing it for a bit now and thought it may be time for a tolerance break but not sure if it's already too late.

>>82796504
Benzo addiction is insidious. You are already probably addicted and need to taper off

>>82796907
That's what I was afraid of. I'm a retard for taking them daily in the first place.

How do I stop craving cannabis? I have been doing dabs daily and have virtually euphoria when doing it, only distress when I am not on it. I am fully addicted, and have insanely high tolerance. I have no weed tonight for the first time in months and it's hitting me hard

>>82797116
>virtually euphoria
virtually NO euphoria.

>>82797116
No need to ever stop cannabis. The worst that will happen is your tolerance will skyrocket and I will rake heavy duty doses and products ti get you high. But otherwise there's no withdrawals and its effects on productivity and such are propaganda nonsense

>>82797288
It costs money I increasingly don't have and I need to do something better with my life

>>82797343
The money part is fair if you're dealing with dispos but online you can 50gs of 99% pure THCA distillate or 29$ ounces of flower. I can source you if you want

>>82797355
I don't want cheaper weed, I want to quit

>>82797363
Well good luck to you. The only thing you'll deal with is boredom but good luck all the same

>>82797288
I smoke weed daily and it annihilated my short-term memory, I'm fucking DUMB.
I'll never achieve anything meaningful anyways so I don't mind wasting away, but don't do this if you think you'll accomplish things one day.

Can you even fuck on coke?

>>82797950
Yeah no that's entirely on you. You would have made the choice to be a fuckup with or without weed. Yall gotta stop blaming your personal failings on a relatively mild psychoactive plant

>>82797288
>>82797950
Smoke Weed Everyday has always been a meme. THC disrupts REM sleep. Your brain needs that to recover and form memories. That's why chronic use makes you forgetful.
Don't even get me started on the "weed's not addicitve" bs.
t. team less-is-more

>>82798193
Ok. If you wanna be a pussy go ahead. Weed is evil, down with weed! Dude you just have a shitty brain

>>82795668
>>82795690
Injecting pill fillers is bad business anon don't do that shit, it will absolutely fuck up your veins and can lead to necrosis and blood poisoning.

There's not really a good way to preserve that mixture, if you're happy it's sterile in there then you can keep it for a while. Sticking it in the freezer will help prevent mold growth.

Best bet for usage is to just take the needle off and boot the contents in your butt. You'll still get a better hit than snorting it and you won't have to worry about poisoning yourself.

>>82798232
I indulge in the devil's lettuce myself, baiter-kun. Just not every fucking day.

>the negative aspect of weed addiction have nothing to do with the heavy use of weed - it's the person (who takes copious amounts of weed) who is to blame or it would happen anyway

It's curious potheads only apply this line of reasoning to weed and don't make a similar exception for any other drug

>>82798077
ive heard guys say their best hookups were under the influence of coke

>drank heavily every single day at work only to come home and empty around 3/4-1 full bottle of this every single day for seven months
>Went cold turkey three days ago and only have mild cravings
I think I might be immune to alcohol withdrawal.

>>82799363
For context I'd always get a pint sized bottle of the stuff.

>>82798232
Weed is a dopaminergic drug that interferes that multiple CNS pathways and causes adaptions and tolerance to maintain homeostasis just like any other drug of this kind.
Amusingly " Principles of neural science"by Kandel et al has MDMA less a drug of abuse (meaning less risk of reward pathway disruption) than cannabis perhaps in some ways due to the increased dopaminergic signalling in may cause.

Potheads have sadly been propagandized by a very effective lobbying and PR campaign, present for a long time ,and often regurgitate the same 3-4 talking points to defend their molecule against any "threat" present or future.
It's really unique in its effects on drug culture really.. The Cannabis industry apparently also popularized "psychological addiction" meaning to contrast with "physical" (or psychological) addiction so to minimize any withdrawal concerns. The media also usually pans from only mildly skeptical of claims made in this area to an almost fawning acceptance.

>>82799333
I think the point is that the physical addiction is not as severe with cannabinoids as it is with many other, more notorious substances. Though it does feel silly for them to focus on half the equation of misuse.

>>82799357
I've had some great shags on coke, and some great wanks, can be a challenge keeping your dick hard but if you're with a patient girl and you're all filled with confidence anyway can be a fucking great time.

>>82799363
It's actually quite hard (compartively) to get physical addicted to booze. You had time off sober (ish) in the day before drinking which helps, and 2/3 bottle isnt a huge amount (altho not good for you). I'm presuming you were also young and didn't go through previous withdrawals (kindling). It can happen at your intake tho. Some ppl might get w/ds at that level tho..
But withdrawal risk increase if you drink 24/7 through the day (even if smaller amounts) and if you don't eat properly or you have other health issues. Lots of variables. I don't recommended that use either way tho : P

>>82799441
>I think the point is that the physical addiction is not as severe with cannabinoids as it is with many other, more notorious substances

I agree with that, similar with stimulants perhaps. But "physiological withdrawal" i think is best for things like gambling and sex addition if it has a reasonable use at all. Not downplaying this term either as gambling addiction can be really serious,. Any xenobiotic IMO should just qualify as a potential physical addictive/withdrawal if needs be - some more severe than others. Otherwise it's a kind of mind body dualism.

If you mean psychological as in drug craving etc, nearly all of that is the extent and severity of the changes causes to dopaminergic signalling

>>82799486
>But "physiological withdrawal"
Sorry meant psychological withdrawal : /

>>82799453
That is pretty interesting honestly, I didn't know that! However I'd drink around 10 shots at work daily then go home and empty most of the bottle. I'm female snd 110 pounds so it's not like I have any advantages there. I only eat one medium sized meal a day, usually AFTER work too, so most of the time I'm drunk on an empty stomach. I'm gonna stay sober for at least a month though because alc withdrawals sound terrifying.

>>82799588
A|though alcohol withdrawal is certainty dangerous its risk is often massively overstated on the likes of reddit and other forums. True DTs (the most severe withdrawal) is often coincided with older age (<40), other heath concerns, kindling episodes, poor diet, reduce liver or impair brain function.

If you continued what you did for say another 2-4 years, you'd start getting shakes and sweats in the morning (especially if you had tto get up early and took "nips" as a hair of dog). These sweats, shakes, anxious feelings are all mild symptoms and can be completely ameliorated with a small beer taper (I'd always recommend taper).
If you increase your intake while getting episodes of mild withdrawal, chances of moderate withdrawal would start becoming more of a risk for you (fever, alcoholic hallucinatious, rarely minor seizures are moving to moderate land) which are still somewhat "safe" is in comparison to severe withdrawal syndrome. True DTs you really have to usually hit it hard for a long time to get (or go through multiple w/ds or be very old etc). These are very dangerous. Always taper or better yet use benzos.
If you have a annoying booze habit, you could try kratom to see if it helps cut down. But kratom is definitely addicting after a while of use, is easier to get addicted to than booze (altho is much less physically taxing).

Should I quit weed? Apparently daily vaping is super bad for your lungs but it's the easiest way for me to get high.

>>82793460
> alcohol kills more people than drug overdoses (but not necessarily alcohol overdoses)

fuck me mate. Sad shit.
But even worse - The driving cars causes more deaths than even that alcohol. That's some body count. Think next next time you step into a car.
Also more people die from crossing the road than those who go base jumping without a parachute. I think stats work just like that

Luckily we can go to a , say, middle eastern country, maybe one with alclhol outlawed.
Over there some areas alcohol is 10 safer as it has 10 fewer total deaths, total death is the only metric that counts.

>>82793460
> alcohol kills more people than drug overdoses (but not necessarily alcohol overdoses) and eerrything else

That's sad shit, a normie would lose his tiny mind
..
But even worse - The driving of cars causes more deaths than even the deafs caused by the pernicious nightmare of ethyl alcohol.

Here's a another to get your frazzle your noggin: more people die from crossing the road than those who go base jumping without a parachute. Which says a GREAT DEAL isn't that right.
Think next next time you step into a car, surely you missed my disingenuous factoid routine

Luckily we can go to a, say, middle eastern country while alclhol is restricted with 10 times less use.
In these areas, the alcohol is safer. 10 safer in fact as it has 10 fewer total deaths.

Why ain't alcohol fucking bann--- no wait prohibition is bad, bad......alcohol should be legal and other drugs need to be legal...To make it fair..... fuck the drug war.... and you know, the thang.
/ascended drug forumite cant

>>82793460
> alcohol kills more people than drug overdoses (but not necessarily alcohol overdoses) and eerrything else

That's sad shit, a normie would lose his tiny mind
..
But even worse - The driving of cars causes more deaths than even the deafs caused by the pernicious nightmare of ethyl alcohol.

Here's a another curveball to frazzle your mind: more people die from crossing the road than those who go base jumping without a parachute. Which says a GREAT DEAL isn't that right.
Think next next time you are about to step into a car, surely you didn't notice i forgot to mention per capita

Luckily we can go to a, say, middle eastern country where alcohol is restricted and 10 times less use in the population.
In these areas, this type of alcohol is for some reason safer. Somehow, 10 times safer in fact.10 fewer total deaths. We need to being this alcohol over to the West.

Why ain't alcohol fucking bann--- no wait prohibition is bad, bad......alcohol should be legal and other drugs need to be legal...To make it fair..... fuck the drug war.... and you know the thang

>>82799671
Vaping corner store carts with acetate in them will kill your lungs but vaping dispo carts and flower is pretty clean and not harsh.

Stop blaming da erb, it come from da ert

>>82799486
>>82799519
>psychological withdrawal [...] if it has any reasonable use at all
>mind body dualism
I don't think I can agree. When addiction is broken down into physical and psychological, it allows us to talk about the biochemistry of the drug and the subjective experience of those chemical interactions. This is a useful distinction because individuals can respond differently to the same chemical at equal doses. We can account for individual experiences in this way, and we allow for people to engage with drug information in an analytic-oriented and experience-oriented way. Therefore it is a meaningful distinction that should exist in these discussions.

This does not tread ground into mind-body dualism, however, because it does not require that the effects on the body are entirely separate from the subjective experience, but merely that the effects on the body are not always experienced the same way between people. Just like how two people can ride a rollercoaster but have different opinions about it, so too can people consume the same drug at the same dose and experience something a bit different. This could be chalked up to the effects of set and setting, or some genetic variance, but regardless of how it works, the discussion of the physical and psychological do not necessitate mind-body dualism.

>>82799671
>daily vaping
It'd be nice to cut back. You could also just do low dose edibles, too, if you still really want weed.

>>82799671
vaping really isn't that bad for your lungs. the evidence is still coming out, but people forget that smoking flower is still giga bad for your lungs in a similar way to cigarettes.
switch to ceramic carts if you can, or an e-rig. but you should still quit because weed is gay

i ate 1 hour ago 3 fresh middle sized "america muscaria", heated sauna and started watching "gladiator"

>>82800790
I never got anything out of amanita when I tried it but sounds comfy

>>82800790
>"america muscaria"
>eaten fresh
you're going to be delirious if its legit
>>"america muscaria"