Thread 82756934

why are u guys so critical of women for being picky or misandrist, and so angry and hateful to us to the point of all the violent fantasy posts or killing us whores bitches etc, when u guys would never want to be with women if we were like u guys?

think about it. imagine if women:
>couldnt help but stare down every chads body in public and get horny on the spot even if she's ur wife holding ur hand
>watch degenerate things like mommy/son porn to the point u worry abt ur future son
>talked to their friends about hypothetically fucking every guy they know including when they're in a relationship.- if a girl is like "don't say that u have a bf", they all laugh at her
>posted u, ur friends, ur groomsmen, ur brothers, ur dads etc in threads to masturbate to and tribute
>almost all of them think the concept of gay men making out is hot and they publicly joke about it and watch gay porn
>simultaneously the pressure is on you to accept all of this or look past it and ignore it, have a pretence fairytale romance and if u can't find princess charming among the degenerate swarms before 25 than ur fucked

that probably upset u just reading it but its daily reality for us. its easy to be like "its different women aren't bothered by that stuff like men are" no we are, look at Latina women and honestly all women if we r being serious, its just more socially normalized for us to forgive it bc its unavoidable but we hate it. women who are aware of it with no delusions of fairytale romance (strippers, women who got cheated on etc) are always repulsed by men

you all should be grateful we put up with you

But all those things you listed are the reality already when engaging with women aside from the tribute post one, and they won't even do it online, they'll do it right in front of you while you're working
>t. works in a restaraunt with an all woman front house staff

>>82756965
im a woman, idk what women ur hanging with bud, but every woman I know are either exclusively into personality and men they've been around a lot or they only admire/stare at the guys faces, or maybe his ass, but we don't get physically horny on the spot, its like an objective "oh he's handsome". not the same as uncontrollably getting a boner whenever u see cleavage or hips even if the woman is a relative.

I highly doubt the women u know are into fantasies act their hypothetical sons saying shit like "if he was my son id fuck him", talking abt wanting to fuck their bfs friends, and are all into gay guys having butt sex.

>>82756934 (OP)
it's not about women being picky, it's women denying this and saying they have it as hard or even worse than men

>>82756934 (OP)
nigga said "imagine if women did all the things men do, like=" and then said a bunch of shit that women do

I just don't get it, why do so many men hate us so much, have such violent fantasies or just casually disrespect us 24/7. most women either adore u guys and desperately want a fairytale romance with kids and marriage or they're blackpilled and hate men on a surface level bc they feel betrayed since u guys are like the green text in my post. but that hate obviously is cause they wanted sweet romance shit once and realized u guys are not like that and will forever be lusting after other hoes. honestly its the hoes u guys claim to hate that u love the most and can never give up. u talk about how disgusted u are with pornstars and "who's gonna marry her" but she's the one getting ur dick hard while ur wife lays in bed besides u. it makes no sense

>>82756934 (OP)
Problem is the ONLY guys who behave this way are the ones you choose to have sex with. It's very hypocritical of you to reward their behavior.

>>82757019
I've walked in to one describing jerking off her cat to another. I don't think you understand how casually fucking twisted and bizarre a lot of women are.

>>82757093
>most women either adore u guys
in what fucking world lmao
women have treated me like a cockroach all my life

>>82757093
Because it works, and you're attracted to it
Doesn't have to be fantasies about murdering you, your pussy will tingle from plain disdain

>>82757092
if u think women do it ur not comparing it to how bad men do it
>women may stare at attractive chads and think he's handsome. they don't magnetically stare at his bulge or chest and get a physical uncontrollable reaction and have to go jerk off (while on a outing with their husband too)
>some women r fetishistic but not most. most find incest fetishes horrifying
>women may joke about hypotheticals like would u rather fuck this guy or that guy. men will be telling their guy friends how desperately they wanna fuck some hoe but they can't bc of their bitch gf
>most women do not have gay man fetishes straight up. some do cause of yaoi or gay media, but its not the same as men with lesbians and is recent

This thread in a nutshell.

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>>82757096
this doesn't make sense because it is on 4chan where men talk about their daddy/daughter fetishes, how hot their moms or sisters are, getting a boner at random women in public, post tribute threads for women they know irl, fantasize abt lesbians or trooning out to be a lesbian, and then complain about being incel and how women won't fuck them. women may fuck a horrible guy if he's handsome and socially competent bc they r shallow (im not saying women r angels just that men r degenerate and should be glad women agree to be with them at all) but most guys on 4chan/guys who are social outcasts are creeps, not innocent sweetiepies just bc they are suffering
>>82757100
have u had an experience like that w every woman you've known, and see it constantly acknowledged that all women do this and its normal? no. of course horrible women r out there but this sounds like ur problem is u are blackballed from some gross women whereas as a woman our struggle is trying not to be blackballed by all gross men.
>>82757116
weirdo
>>82757115
im certain non Stacies are nice to u

>>82757019
>every woman I know are either exclusively into personality
Then why is it that I'm successful with women online and then get ghosted the instant I send a picture of myself?

>>82757162
>im certain non Stacies are nice to u
lol no. only women old enough to be my mom are. why would you think less attractive girls are any nicer?

>>82757093
>u talk about how disgusted u are with pornstars and "who's gonna marry her" but she's the one getting ur dick hard while ur wife lays in bed besides u.
One of the main issues with the dating scene currently is the split between people's conscious desires and their sexual desires. Men and women are both equally guilty. Women claim to want an emotionally available sweet guy, but when they're horny fantasize about being raped by a thug. Men claim to want a trad wife mother for their children, but shoot ropes to disgusting tatted up burnout chicks. It's up to the individuals to cut their vices and return their mind to baseline (being attracted to vanilla normal people).

This is embarrasing, just kys

>>82757162
>most guys on 4chan/guys who are social outcasts are creeps, not innocent sweetiepies just bc they are suffering
Sure, but most guys on 4chan who make degenerate posts like this aren't the social outcasts, they are the guys who get pussy and then hop over to the next thread where they post nudes of their exes and current gfs
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have u had an experience like that w every woman you've known, and see it constantly acknowledged that all women do this and its normal? no. of course horrible women r out there but this sounds like ur problem is u are blackballed from some gross women whereas as a woman our struggle is trying not to be blackballed by all gross men.
My sister in Christ, I have spent most of my life trying to avoid women for this very reason. My experiences with them have almost always been either something like this, or my mother beating me and encouraging my sister to do the same. I don't give two shits about your 'most women aren't like this' arguement, because it does not in any way match the reality I have lived.

>>82756934 (OP)
The vast majority of men are not going to be violent or aggressive toward you in public, and in most cases you can tell the ones who will.
You're doing the same thing you're complaining about men doing. You're identifying the worst behaved men and assuming that all men are that way.

>>82757165
no, its why women usually only really like a guy if he's their coworker or classmate etc. if they saw ur face again n again irl they'd probably like u. I guess it's closeness, not personality
>>82757172
in my experience, im always nice to people regardless of gender, my sister is the same way and so are many girls I've met. its only very socialized Stacy types in big friend groups who treat others like they're bugs.
>>82757183
I don't want to be raped by a thug. if a woman wants that she's usually mentally ill and molested in my experience, and dates those thugs. with men I wouldn't say its necessarily that big a physical difference either, a lot of them just love (in their secondary, lower brain) the idea of a woman being a hoe and promiscuous even if she looks like their wife that's what gets them off

>>82756934 (OP)
The point is not lost on me, but I'm not a normgroid moid so I don't do those things. I also don't really care except for being horny for other real men if I'm with her.
I don't really care that women are picky. Goycattle are annoying as fuck so it makes total sense.

>>82756934 (OP)
>that probably upset u just reading it but its daily reality for us.
No, not at all. You seem to have cherrypicked the worst aspects displayed on this board and constructed your own strawman to beat down.

>you all should be grateful we put up with you
Now, THAT makes me angry.

>>82757226
>its only very socialized Stacy types in big friend groups who treat others like they're bugs.
the majority of women are very socialized

>>82757236
As in, I don't want her to be horny for other irl men if I'm with her. That's the only thing I really care about her not doing, along with no cum tributes or posting me or others we know. Sorry, I didn't write that clearly.

>>82757208
its true most men aren't violent or aggressive, ur right abt that. I guess im asking why incels/mgtow etc hate us when it is in fact most men that have all the sexual behaviors I describe in the green text. even nice ones who pretend otherwise, id say 99% of men r porn addicts. its biologically in them and not their fault, but my point stands u should be glad women agree to be with u

>>82757254
But women do not agree to be with us. That's why we're called incels you dense cunt

>>82757259
then u should understand why frankly
if ur a porn addict and lustful like other men
of course women would be picky and want someone that benefits their life when they know all men whether kind or mean or poor or rich or short or tall is gonna be lustful

>>82757278
Most women aren't asexual, that's not why they aren't into certain types of men. Nta

>>82757226
>if a woman wants that she's usually mentally ill and molested in my experience
female sexuality is unfortunately shaped by thousands of years of this being their reality. Modern society only recently grew out of pillaging so humans haven't evolved fast enough to match. Maybe you don't specifically want to be raped by a thug but you certainly have a fantasy somewhat adjacent to this that you are embarrassed to address.

>>82757226
>I guess it's closeness, not personality
I spent months talking to some of them! If that's not close I don't know what is.

>>82757254
I do 0 of the things that you describe in the OP (except for thinking that lesbians are hot) and no woman has EVER given me a chance in person because of how ugly I am.

I resent women (partially) because you refuse to be honest. You claim to care about personality or guys who treat you well but all that nice guys (actually nice guys, not "nice guys) with a good personality get kicked to the curb while a serial killer with a chiseled jaw can get a new girl every week.

>>82756934 (OP)
Well, would you like to be with men if they were like women. I'm not sure which rock you've been under, but statistically, women don't really like the nice guys. They want the murderer boy dick.
>couldnt help but stare down every chads body in public and get horny on the spot even if she's ur wife holding ur hand
Depends on the kind of horny.
>watch degenerate things like mommy/son porn to the point u worry abt ur future son
She's a woman. What's she goung to do?
>talked to their friends about hypothetically fucking every guy they know including when they're in a relationship.- if a girl is like "don't say that u have a bf", they all laugh at her
I mean, if they talked about pegging every other guy, it would be fine.
>posted u, ur friends, ur groomsmen, ur brothers, ur dads etc in threads to masturbate to and tribute
I don't give a shit. I'm a guy. That's a good thing if they're schlicking to me.
>almost all of them think the concept of gay men making out is hot and they publicly joke about it and watch gay porn
Hypothetically? Because that's just normal female behavior and Idc.
>simultaneously the pressure is on you to accept all of this or look past it and ignore it, have a pretence fairytale romance and if u can't find princess charming among the degenerate swarms before 25 than ur fucked
You do not understand what it's like being a guy. That didn't even cross my mind. I was fucked from the beginning. You're telling me I get free attention? From the opposite sex? For free? You really think I care about fairytale romance weak shit?

Also, were do I find these "fucked" 25 year olds? I want women to do a long term relationship with as a 25 year old virgin myself? Oh wait, they don't exist. Because women are a psyop, just a spectral notions of the night breeze.
>that probably upset u just reading
It's more just abject confusion really.
>you all should be grateful we put up with you
Women put up with me?

>>82757278
No, I do not understand why, because I do not engage with these behaviors and I am thoroughly repulsed when women display them.

>>82757254
I don't think the majority of men do a lot of the things you listed. Most guys aren't trying to take voyeur pics of people or fantasizing about every girl they meet. And a lot of guys know that porn isn't good for them and would love to stop, but it's their only sexual outlet other than just jerking it in the dark to their fantasies.
The whole "extreme porn" thing is nonsense too. Both men and women get into extreme stuff, but I'd argue that women are actually worse about it. Maybe they don't watch mommy/son porn, but instead they read a fiction novel about getting manipulated and raped by a vampire/werewolf/billionaire/anthropomorphic bull, etc.

For most of these men, if they had a woman in their lives who actually liked them and wanted to have sex with them on a regular basis, they'd give up all of that degenerate stuff. Women won't even give them a chance.

>>82757287
my fantasies r entirely only sensual shit like massages, anything more degenerate than that was from watching porn as a kid and I've eliminated by not watching it
>>82757304
>Well, would you like to be with men if they were like women. I'm not sure which rock you've been under, but statistically, women don't really like the nice guys. They want the murderer boy dick.
id rather a man wants me to be evil or dominant than be a porn addict
>I mean, if they talked about pegging every other guy, it would be fine.
ur adding a deceicous level of disconnect to the scenario. of course you'd be less disturbed at the thought of that bc pegging isn't attractive. I mean fucking, penis in pussy. real shit. like men talk act w women
>I don't give a shit. I'm a guy. That's a good thing if they're schlicking to me.
again, ur adding disconnect. they're not schlicking to u, but ur dad, brother, groomsmen friends at ur wedding. while dating u.
>You're telling me I get free attention? From the opposite sex? For free?
that free attention can only get u 2 things. being the cucked wife while he jerks off to other girls, or being the hoe who is shamed, hated and never loved. I guess ur saying we should just be hoes, we r lucky to get that attention I guess. we can't win either
>>82757327
>For most of these men, if they had a woman in their lives who actually liked them and wanted to have sex with them on a regular basis, they'd give up all of that degenerate stuff. Women won't even give them a chance.
easy to say, but not reality. I've dated only 2 guys, both lonely incels, one of them a virgin. they both struggled with degenerate porn the entire relationship and would express attraction to other women. once u get comfortable with the gf u get bored, and once u have porn in ur system it doesn't go out

>>82757416
This is the second time you have selectively ignored my posts for being inconvenient to your arguments. I'm beginning to think you're not doing any of this in good faith, nonny.

>>82757416
I don't know what to say about the guys you dated, but a lot of guys are like I describe.

>>82757416
>anything more degenerate than that was from watching porn as a kid and I've eliminated by not watching it
good job :) I'm glad to hear it. Most guys don't actually prefer rough sex either and they'd be relieved to hear you like sensual sex.

/r9k/ made me more misandrist because they hate that I need to be picky. I have limited time to have not-retarded children and I'm going through every risk of pregnancy, not the men of /r9k/. They can easily skip town and leave me a single mother that they hated so much that their mothers were single mothers and decided to inflict the same to their children. My child needs good genes, not the genes of the failures on /r9k/ that have a huge slew of both physical and mental disorders. The risks are too great, so yes, I am fucking picky.

Inb4 le chad. Most Chads are great people. /r9k/'s opinion and thoughts are not based on reality. Every engineer, lawyer, doctor, and high value occupations have been Chads.

>>82756934 (OP)
where did you get these ideas from nona? from people on 4chan? because people on 4chan are weird

I'm not going to read these girls ragebait. They're all fucking stupid

>>82757504
exactly, we are just trying to have a good father to our kids, not a creep who will molest them or make them retarded and dysgenic
idk abt most chads being great people tho. i guess country boy chads and simple chads but not the frat boy type. and u can honestly never be too sure. but even when theyre porn addicts its more beneficial than being with a unemployed dysgenic anime addicted porn addict.

>>82757510
life experience and seeing what men post on 4chan, reddit, twitter, quora, forum sites, seeing porn statistics. every man ive talked to in depth ever. i havent known a single one who tries to be respectful and wholesome and discliplined like i do. its just worthless

>>82757538
>I disagree because it doesn't fit my worldview that women hate me for being bottom trash tier man therefore it's ragebait
Proved my point.

Well, since OP is set on ignoring me, who wants some of the sorts of things I've seen working dish in a bar?
>new hire bartender, 6'4", instantly causes more women to hang around at the bar
>front house staff start occupying the corner of the bar closest to the wait station
>eventually all of the front house staff are spending most of their time sitting at the bar oogling them

>have to keep being told by the manager to do their jobs
>few weeks later, front staff is getting rotated out as always
>mostly moving on to higher paying jobs
>new waitress volunteers to get bartender ice from ice machine
>I'm doing dish as always, just see her fill an ice bucket and leave, usual sort of occurance
>don't see her the rest of the night
>she had used getting ice an excuse to get behind the bar and try to grind on him while she dumped it
>manager saw and fired her on the spot

>>82757416
>id rather a man wants me to be evil or dominant than be a porn addict
You'd rather men not be porn addicts, and instead you be evil? Or would you rather them not want you to be a porn addict and instead evil. In either case, why?
>ur adding a deceicous level of disconnect to the scenario. of course you'd be less disturbed at the thought of that bc pegging isn't attractive. I mean fucking, penis in pussy. real shit. like men talk act w women
I was making the distinction because women having sex is different. Them pegging is closer to what men experience having sex. Women don't have penis. It's not the same sensitivity and effect. If women got only a 5 second orgasm and topped those men and also didn't have to worry about babies, then it's whatever if they fantasize about doing that.
>again, ur adding disconnect. they're not schlicking to u, but ur dad, brother, groomsmen friends at ur wedding. while dating u.
Then why would they be dating me and posting my pics if they don't want me? I also don't raally care if they get off to literally everyone, so long as I get to fuck her really hard in the mean time.
>that free attention can only get u 2 things. being the cucked wife while he jerks off to other girls, or being the hoe who is shamed, hated and never loved. I guess ur saying we should just be hoes, we r lucky to get that attention I guess. we can't win either
it's better that you can be a hoe and get a sutuation with a man where he at least is obligated to be with you, rather than not have any attention whatsoever. But also, femdom exists. How's he going to fuck other women when you control his whole situation and he willingly agrees to everything because otherwise he's back to the swathes of men. This is not to mention how if you like having sex, you can get as much as you want 24/7.

And actually women are the initiators of most divorces. Guys get into relationships, and women are the ones to try and find "better men, at least most of the time.

>>82756934 (OP)
>>couldnt help but stare down every chads body in public and get horny on the spot even if she's ur wife holding ur hand
Women do this
>>watch degenerate things like mommy/son porn to the point u worry abt ur future son
Women do this
>>talked to their friends about hypothetically fucking every guy they know including when they're in a relationship.- if a girl is like "don't say that u have a bf", they all laugh at her
Women do this
>>posted u, ur friends, ur groomsmen, ur brothers, ur dads etc in threads to masturbate to and tribute
Women pass around dudes like this irl
>>almost all of them think the concept of gay men making out is hot and they publicly joke about it and watch gay porn
Women do this
>>simultaneously the pressure is on you to accept all of this or look past it and ignore it, have a pretence fairytale romance and if u can't find princess charming among the degenerate swarms before 25 than ur fucked
Women do this far more than men. Men are pressured to accept literally anything a woman wants or does and will be called controlling just for being who he is and not changing fast enough

This is a bait post but it was nice writing this out I guess. Reminds me to not fall for any female bullshit

>>82757639
lmfao this is just women finding a guy hot. it is the bear minimum, they just find a guy attractive wow how evil. i wouldnt think its bad if men were drawn to a hot girl. the thing ur not getting is that all men are constantly drawn to all women even in relationships. its entirely expected and biologically programed for men to get boners in public every time they see tits or a good ass or smth in public, regardless of being with their gf or it being their relative, their gfs relative or smth else. thats what ur not understanding. ur equated womens bare minimum of being attracted to a hot guy with mens complete addiction to women + porn addiction

>>82757569
>4chan, reddit, twitter, quora, forum sites
>seeing porn statistics

these don't represent most men. youre only going to find weirdos on those websites. porn statistics are reflective of those weirdos.

>every man ive talked to in depth ever. i havent known a single one who tries to be respectful and wholesome and discliplined like i do. its just worthless

are you finding these men on those same websites nona?

>>82757669
neither! i would rather they WANT me to be evil/dominant, and find that romantic/attractive, rather than watch degen porn. bc porn is evil.
>because women having sex is different
sure the way we have sex is different, but feelings of attraction and desire isnt. or maybe it is cuz men get literal boners to random girls. would u want ur girl to get pangs of horniness thinking abt any hot guy she sees, and tell her friends how much she wants him? regardless of pegging or not, i doubt it
>Then why would they be dating me and posting my pics if they don't want me?
silly thats what men are like. sure theyd want u too, theyd just ALSO want ur brothers friends dads etc and itd be hotter to them bc they alrdy have u, so they wouldnt need to want u. cuz they alrdy conquered u and are used to ur dick. thats how men think abt women
>it's better that you can be a hoe and get a sutuation with a man where he at least is obligated to be with you, rather than not have any attention whatsoever
maybe my frustration is bc i actually listened to u guys and refused to be a hoe, tried to stay in relationships long as possible bc i didnt want to be impure for another guy, only to realize every guy is jerking off to other women anyway

>>82757714
Grinding on someone unconsenting is actually sexual assault. Baiting used to be an art. So anyways, the jerking off their cat thing.
>very busy night, all hands on deck, late summer time
>constantly running plates, ice, beers, what have you all over the place
>keep overhearing bizarre shit being talked about at the wait station every time I drop off things
>audibly wtf once, cook who is stuck with it jokes with me that at least I only have to hear half of it
>he looks genuinely dead inside over it
>first time it was about spontaneous lactation
>second time it was comparing how many bfs the then current female bartender had in the first month working there to how many they were churning through (it was six on the bartender's part, by the by)
>third time that made me audibly wtf was one of them describing in detail how they managed to jerk off their cat
>supposedly their vet said they had to do it
>apparently the other one had to as well
>I had more stuff waiting for the wait station, it was a double trip
>pain.png
>when I come back they were arguing over the consistency of cat cum
I fucking hate it here.

>>82757766
where are you meeting these men? do you think that might be a problem? are you talking to younger men that are still just horny for anything and everything?

>>82757777

the cat thing doesnt sound like they are doing it for pleasure get real. it sounds like a joke convo abt smth uncomfortable they had to do medically or just dark humor. i highly highly doubt normie bartender girls r paraphilic zoophiles. and those bfs were probably casual hookups that she was pretending love her - men would talk abt all the hookups theyve had while with a gf who they love and have been with for 5 years. women wouldnt, unless theyre bashing their ex

it sounds like ur coworkers were gross, but it still is no counter to the fact that all men are porn addicts who have biological programming to wanna fuck every single woman and spread seed. if women had that instinct, which we factually dont, u would see what ur talking abt rn as acceptable and as good as a woman can get

>>82757803
do you think of men as animals with no self control? sure, there is a biological imperative to spread seed as you put it, but to say every man is a sex crazed degenerate is just wrong

you don't sound like a bad person you just sound broken from bad experience. You really shouldn't be on this board it is damning you, you have potential to live a normal life and find someone who loves you.

>>82757803
These aren't the bartenders, this is the wait staff. Actually, funny bit, not a full greentext about the female bartender. When she left it was to do onlyfans.

>>82757766
>neither! i would rather they WANT me to be evil/dominant, and find that romantic/attractive, rather than watch degen porn. bc porn is evil.
Even smut? Also, why? Evil? Really?
>would u want ur girl to get pangs of horniness thinking abt any hot guy she sees, and tell her friends how much she wants him? regardless of pegging or not, i doubt it
Eh, it's not ideal sure, but we were talking about her having sex. The lust is more of a physical need thing for men than an emotion thing like how it is for women. Hence women jerking off to erotica while men need more visual stuff. Imagine if women got post nut clearity.
>silly thats what men are like. sure theyd want u too, theyd just ALSO want ur brothers friends dads etc and itd be hotter to them bc they alrdy have u, so they wouldnt need to want u. cuz they alrdy conquered u and are used to ur dick. thats how men think abt women
Then stop being a starfish. Give him something worth conquering. Do kinky shit. Understand what makes him tick and be intimate. Isn't this why people even do monogomy in the first place? Because only having one person means you get to share everything?
>maybe my frustration is bc i actually listened to u guys and refused to be a hoe, tried to stay in relationships long as possible bc i didnt want to be impure for another guy, only to realize every guy is jerking off to other women anyway
I mean to be fair, every other woman is actually fucking some other guy so I think playing violent vidya games aren't the same as murder. Just a thought.

Either way, if you're telling the truth, that's huge. Now you get to have a relationship with a man and not be the one to initiate divorce. You are still capable of pair bonding.

There are actually lots of sexless men out there, typically young men too, and if you can find one, then you could still be eachother's firsts and have what almost nobody these days get to have. Nobody forgets their first time, or so I'm told.

>>82757867
*most every women, not every other women

Another incel meltdown thread. Who would have thought?

Anyways, that aside
>much quieter day, start of shift
>two tables
>wait staff are joking around, spooking this one easily jumping girl
>"Stop that or I'll piss myself"
>they laugh, a few minutes later after she cleans the last table one of the waitresses jumps out the corner of the wait station and spooks her again
>she jumps and laughs it off
>actually has pissed herself, front and back of pants visibly wet
>doesn't go to the bathroom, doesn't make any attempt to excuse herself or clean herself up
>just keeps on working
>that was when I learned to stay in my washroom even when the restaraunt is empty and I have nothing to do because I will not like what I see

>>82757867
>The lust is more of a physical need thing for men than an emotion thing like how it is for women
u really dont understand what im getting at. im literally saying imagine if we were like men - and it WAS a physical need for us. and no, i was talking abt women talking to each other abt wanting to have sex w other guys behind their bfs back or maybe even in front of him, not necessarily actually having tons of sex. ur being obtuse
>Do kinky shit
i do and have always done everything. it doesnt matter and never will because im not a different body type, asian, trans, brunette, redhead, or a stranger in a specific fantasy scenario. theyll always want smth different.

>There are actually lots of sexless men out there, typically young men too, and if you can find one, then you could still be eachother's firsts and have what almost nobody these days get to have.
thats a nice sentiment, but i dont think u get what im saying. one of the only 2 guys ive been with was a virgin. even he was a porn addict. im not saying every guy has tons of sex. im saying they all want to, oggle every woman, get boners uncontrollably and disrespect us by voicing their desires to us or their friends.

>start of shift, still empty
>one of the two girls in the cat mastrubation conversation and the essentially hostage cook doing food prep
>I'm bringing out a stack of cups and appetizer platers left over on the racks from lunch time
>she turns around and shoves her camera in my face while I'm walking to set the plates down
>"Hey check this out, you can see her whole-ass pussy!"
>some random tiktok skank doing a vertical split in skin tight clothes
>"Yup, sure can."
>just get out of dodge back to the washroom as quick as I can while the cook tries to distract her with conversation
On another occasion, near Easter
>"Hey anon, check out my aunt!"
>picture of her aunt from behind as she's laying down, nude with a easter egg in her cheeks
>its in the middle of rush hour, I'm sliding plates into the plate pit
>she's shoving her entire arm through the plate window
>don't even say anything, just walk away
I'm sleepy and feeling miserable thinking of all this bullshit over. I'm headed to bed. Goodnight anons. Fuck foids. Not literally. They'd enjoy that too much.

>>82758010
those r just people being gross and undisciplined. nothing u brought up is them being porn addicts with degen fantasies or getting uncontrollably horny for random guys while they have a bf

>>82758010
Phone, not camera. Yeah, definitely too tired. Nighty night.

>>82757929
This really isn't true though. Yeah, guys want to cum, it feels good. They might watch porn too. But this does not mean every man is constantly watching porn, trying to get off, looking at every woman, etc. You're making a lot of assumptions based on what I personally think are the worst men.

>>82756934 (OP)
dont they already, are you fucking stupid cunt

>>82756934 (OP)
>u guys would never want to be with women if we were like u guys?
Lol. Lmao.
In reality you wouldnt want to live what life is like for your average ugly man.

That one woman who did literally killed herself because she realized how bad men have it.
Id love to live in a gender role reversal world, It'd be soooooooo much easier.

>porn addicts denying they are porn addicts
No surprise there.

>roasties hating on porn again because it makes invisible men happy
No surprise there

>>82758215
i dont care if single men watch porn. its that they dont stop when they have gf

>>82758300
I dont care about men in a relationships, Im not them.
Leave porn alone.

>>82758300
men dont stop watching porn when theyre in a relationship because the woman cant satisfy him, or the guy wants to be in a relationship for some stupid reason. when you love someone, theyre the sexiest, most beautiful person, better than any porn.