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Anonymous No.82763007 >>82763027 >>82763066 >>82763126 >>82763196 >>82763254 >>82763372 >>82763481 >>82763498 >>82763543 >>82763581 >>82763700 >>82764006 >>82764378 >>82764859 >>82765437 >>82765911 >>82766255 >>82766571 >>82767459 >>82767597 >>82768403
>Friend who used to be a self-identified Nazi is a lib now
Anonymous No.82763027 >>82763121
>>82763007 (OP)
Extreme political views are correlated with mental illness.
Anonymous No.82763066 >>82763121 >>82763388 >>82763452 >>82764168 >>82765530
>>82763007 (OP)
yea i was like that when i was 16, i was redpilled at 14, decided to be a communist at 16 because its fun to rebel (thats why they do it) u be mean to everyone and rebel but then i grew up and realized it was retarded and became a nazi again
Anonymous No.82763108 >>82766775
Probably some sort of kosher neonazi who thought nazism = racism. Either that or he got pussy whipped.
Anonymous No.82763121 >>82763138 >>82763360
>>82763027
He was definitely a little fucked before. Now he seems so normish. Weird shit.
>>82763066
My mans in his twenties and he has been libbing out for a couple years apparently. Doubt this is a phase.
Anonymous No.82763126 >>82763214 >>82763526
>>82763007 (OP)
Are they white? Then they're just reactionary and only care about their personal economics being affected. If the economy was stable they'd have no issues being a nazi again.
Anonymous No.82763136 >>82763150 >>82763154
Liberals have higher IQ and are more educated
Anonymous No.82763138 >>82763214
>>82763121
>My mans in his twenties and he has been libbing out for a couple years apparently. Doubt this is a phase.
i have no explanation other than propaganda and retardation but because you said he was a nazi before thats just weird
Anonymous No.82763150
>>82763136
they also believe there are 400 genders
Anonymous No.82763154
>>82763136
liberals have lower iq and are more "educated" through college marxist propaganda, this picture of a cute anime girl proves it aswell
Anonymous No.82763196 >>82763207 >>82763214
>>82763007 (OP)
being a lib is unironically more white-coded
nazis are all white trash, mixed race, or indian lol
Anonymous No.82763207 >>82763329
>>82763196
>comparing lib to an extreme far right minority
>lib has more white people
well no shit
Anonymous No.82763214 >>82763228 >>82763288 >>82763329
>>82763126
He is a White techfag who lives in a tiny apartment and sleeps on a futon. If he is worried about economics I will be very confused.
>>82763138
Eh, I don't know where he got propagandized from then. He only has a Linkedin as far as I know.
>>82763196
Why is it like that?
Anonymous No.82763228
>>82763214
>Eh, I don't know where he got propagandized from then. He only has a Linkedin as far as I know.
>White techfag who lives in a tiny apartment
well theres your answer, techfag, tiny apartment, probably lives in city, idk if he works but if he does hes surrounded my marxists because its tech
Anonymous No.82763254 >>82763264
>>82763007 (OP)
My friends in hs that went through the edgy nazi phase, ether grew out of it or ended up in prison for doing stupid nazi shit.
Anonymous No.82763264
>>82763254
shut the fuck up you stupid fag anarchist
Anonymous No.82763288
>>82763214
>White techfag who lives in a tiny apartment and sleeps on a futon
That makes some sense actually. White people generally don't care about anything until it affects their economics and finances.
Think of the Palestinian genocide. Majority of white people were on the side of Israel right after October 7th. Now that they realized America takes their tax dollars to fund Israeli life and not theirs, white people suddenly care. Maybe he has learned that the politicians he once admired have been kissing Israel's boot?
Anonymous No.82763329 >>82763349 >>82763349
>>82763207
I'm referring to percentages, not whole number. Average nazi is a race mixed spic, average lib is a white woman

>>82763214
>Why is it like that?
Most non-white people are socially conservative, the nazi ones appeal to whiteness out of insecurity about their perceived inferiority. Progressivism has always been a white Western phenomenon, typically those who are more educated.
Anonymous No.82763349 >>82763466
>>82763329
>I'm referring to percentages, not whole number. Average nazi is a race mixed spic, average lib is a white woman
maybe in mexico retard
>>82763329
>typically those who are more educated.
you seriously need to die in a fire
Anonymous No.82763360
>>82763121
>My mans in his twenties and he has been libbing out for a couple years apparently. Doubt this is a phase.
stupid zoomer, of course it's a phase, he's in his 20's, kys
Anonymous No.82763364 >>82763378
It's so high IQ to demographically replace yourself with low IQ populations, bros. We heckin libs are so fucking smart. Also, fuck white people btw lul.

You people are really fucking insane.
Anonymous No.82763370 >>82763389
That's good for him. He grew up matured. He's a better person now in a better place
Anonymous No.82763372
>>82763007 (OP)
He's getting ready to troon out and wants to make sure the people in his life will support it.
Anonymous No.82763378
>>82763364
White liberals ruined South Africa with the same shit. They are so intelligent and high IQ and white. Wow. I'm changing my politics right now after coming to this realization!
Anonymous No.82763388 >>82763402
>>82763066
>because its fun to rebel
That's why you are nazi now lmao
Anonymous No.82763389 >>82763461
>>82763370
you want to destroy this lib, he is not now a "better person"
Anonymous No.82763402 >>82763491 >>82763514
>>82763388
wrong retard, im a nazi from my own personal observations of living in america, it just so happens that our country isnt a national socialist country, so thats why me being a nazi is technically rebelling, if i lived in nazi germany i would be a nazi but you wouldnt say i was rebelling, retard
Anonymous No.82763452
>>82763066
>I flipped from communist to nazi like it was a piece of clothing
Typical fascist teenager. Never a real commie
Anonymous No.82763461
>>82763389
He is in a such a better mental place than a nazi incel like you
Anonymous No.82763466 >>82763507
>>82763349
These are literally 3 of the most prominent Nazis in America and it's a nigger rapper, a femboy loving spic, and a self-hating gay kike

and you're the ones who talk about the higher IQs of white people, of course high IQ white people are going to end up libtards because you guys constantly shit on higher education and academia instead of creating your own universities or infiltrating existing ones, it's partially a self-fulfiling prophecy
Anonymous No.82763481
>>82763007 (OP)
Nazism is pseudoscience, it has been debunked. This doesn't mean that cultural and racial differences aren't a thing, and it doesn't mean that multiculturalism is the way to go.
Classic liberalism, under a common Christian framework as a starting point, is the best model.
Authoritarian regimes that make you worship a leader figure are extremely retarded and cucked anyway.
Let me live among those I choose and be around the people I want. That's it.
Anonymous No.82763491 >>82763507
>>82763402
>I'm an adolescent falling for the most frowned upon, infamous and ideologically biased political narrative of the last 100 years
>From my own personal reasons
The personal reason:
Anonymous No.82763498
>>82763007 (OP)
I got news for you
They were a lib then too
Anonymous No.82763507 >>82763547 >>82763553 >>82763597 >>82763608
>>82763466
>>82763491
you literally hate white people
Anonymous No.82763514 >>82763535
>>82763402
>me being a nazi is technically rebelling
Yeah you really built a personality around being insufferable
Anonymous No.82763526 >>82763535 >>82763581
>>82763126
that doesn't make any sense
didn't nazis kill white people more than any other group?
Anonymous No.82763535 >>82763564
>>82763514
nigger are you fucking retarded? im talking about his point you fucking moron
>>82763526
nope, ever heard of something east of the nazis called communism?
Anonymous No.82763543
>>82763007 (OP)
He grew up and you didn't.
Anonymous No.82763547
>>82763507
What? I'm white and I love being white. Have you tried being white irl before? It's amazing. Cops let me smoke right in front of them and don't give a damn. Brown girls dig it big time
I think you have issues going on my man, the swastika draped over your penis is just how you hide these issues. Probably romantic issues
Anonymous No.82763553
>>82763507
who hates white people, exactly?
Anonymous No.82763564
>>82763535
what I mean is
most of the Nazi's victims were other white europeans. they hurt white people.
Anonymous No.82763581 >>82763637 >>82763661
>>82763007 (OP)
What a fag, I have held the same beliefs from the day I was old enough to realize I had beliefs. If you ever alter your beliefs for any reason beyond a life altering event then you don't have an beliefs, you have copes that you pull out when they're convenient and put away when they're not.
>>82763526
>Bunch of good goy jewish bank slaves attack you
>Defend yourself from puppet slaves
>"UR KILLING WHITE PEOPLE!"
Anonymous No.82763597
>>82763507
you're probably a MIGA amerimutt who doesn't know shit about the Western canon or actual white culture
Anonymous No.82763608
>>82763507
>you literally hate white people
this is what makes most current nazis, like you, come off as such massive retards. You literally sound like foids crying out le patriarchy about every little thing.
>YOU HATE WHITE PEOPLE!!!
>you HATE ME
>YOU HATE ME SO MUCH
you're a fucking schizo retard with a victim complex, that falls for the narrative that makes you feel like the underdog while, at the same time, the most righteous of them all and the bringer of all good things.
Literally all collectivist movements are the same, and why you're such an autistic retard.
Anonymous No.82763624
>Muh internet ideologies

Anytime before 10 years ago it was weird for anyone under 40 to be "political". Politics were grumbled by old men mowing their lawns or out fishing in a canoe. Children with political views given to them by Youtubers are a phenomenon of the smartphone era.
Anonymous No.82763637 >>82763666
>>82763581
If you have the same beliefs you had 10 years ago, that means you wasted 10 years and learned nothing.
Probably why you still share your political views with adolescents.
Anonymous No.82763640 >>82763646 >>82763654
Every time you turn on the TV and see back to back ads of black males fucking white women, a liberal did that. Whitecels should know that.
Anonymous No.82763646 >>82763674
>>82763640
I wish white girls were 10% as obsessed with black cocks as you
Anonymous No.82763654 >>82763674 >>82763716
>>82763640
>TV ads make me seethe
if you're that weak, and feel personally slighted by ads, then you shouldn't hold a political opinion in the first place.
These ads are retarded. It's not a defense for them. You, are no better though.
Anonymous No.82763661 >>82763682
>>82763581
>>Defend yourself
>By invading 29 nations
Ignorance is the greatest nazi ally
Anonymous No.82763666 >>82763706
>>82763637
>Yeah I have no actual principles, rationale, or belief in anything I say or do. That's what being mature means.
See? They don't believe in anything except convenience in the current moment. It's wrong to call these people repubs, democrats, Nazis, commies or whatever because they're not, they're a parasite.
Anonymous No.82763674 >>82763705 >>82763751
>>82763646
>>82763654
Liberals try to socially condition white women into fucking anything other than white men. Hence, why you now have so many whitecels. Whitecels should realize this. Liberals hate you. They don't want whats best for you. They want you to suffer.
Anonymous No.82763682 >>82763737
>>82763661
>If we just rewrite history the same way I rewrite my principles then we win
Please go off about how Hitler only had one testicle and was secretly jewish and was a homosexuaI and was a satanist and was a rapist and and and
Anonymous No.82763692 >>82763758
The only things that matter
>resources
>power
>pussy
Liberals want to take ALL of this away from white men. They even say it openly. Do a search "dethroning whiteness" or anything related, read the articles.
Anonymous No.82763700 >>82763722
>>82763007 (OP)
well yeah they are the same ideology just different flag but the mechanics of it are the same.
In east europe a political party will have liberal in their name and its a coinflip if they are far right nationalist shizos or heckin human rights wimps either way they both salute the reich/rules based world order.
Anonymous No.82763705 >>82763716
>>82763674
>ads are enough to mentally condition me
yep, you're a fucking retard. Women, Nazis and niggers are the best groups at avoiding personal responsibility.
You're a retard. I genuinely mean this. You're a dumb human, too dumb to even realize exactly how fucking idiotic you sound.
The funniest part is, that you will spout propaganda that deliberately twists truth, as a WAY to tell other how brainwashed THEY are. You are literally immune to self-awareness.
Anonymous No.82763706 >>82763719 >>82763739
>>82763666
>I have learned nothing new in 10 years
Sad. Intellectual stagnation leads to a rotted mind
Anonymous No.82763716 >>82763730
>>82763654
>I'm not defending them, but how fucking dare you EVER speak against them, you're WEAK and PATHETIC if you don't eat the shit they serve.
>>82763705
>HOW FUCKING DARE YOU TALK ABOUT THIS! Media doesn't affect anything that's why it's perfectly okay to insert leftist propaganda into every single aspect of life from the media you view to the stores you shop at to schools and universities.
Anonymous No.82763719 >>82763782
>>82763706
>ESL
>Nazi
every single time. They don't want you in their ethnostate, Juan
Anonymous No.82763722 >>82763849
>>82763700
>far right nationalist shizos or heckin human rights wimps
One of those two is worse. To find out which, ask yourself who would you rather be imprisoned by
Anonymous No.82763730 >>82763764
>>82763716
calm down, stop overreacting. I didn't say any of that, but you, like a woman, extrapolated it to an extreme, misinterpreted it, and seethed about it.
Go change your tampon and come back with a clear head.
Anonymous No.82763737 >>82763753
>>82763682
It's so odd to say someone is rewriting history to justify your own historical ignorance
Anonymous No.82763739 >>82763814
>>82763706
And it doesn't even have an argument, all it can do is desperately trying to shame anyone who doesn't fall in line with whatever schizophrenic nonsense it's currently pretending to believe in at this specific moment. The worst part is that even if the impotent, woman-like shaming tactics did work it wouldn't matter because it will just change its stance in its constant shifting between meaningless beIiefs.
Anonymous No.82763751 >>82763759
>>82763674
If girls were obsessed with black cocks as much as you they wouldn't need any conditioning.
Anonymous No.82763753 >>82763831 >>82763850
>>82763737
Yeah yeah I know the Nazis wanted to take over the entire world and kill everyone who didn't have blue eyes and blonde hair while being pedophile satanists who secretly worked for the jews or whatever, cool man.
Anonymous No.82763758
>>82763692
Wrong, but whatever
Anonymous No.82763759
>>82763751
I'm not the one shitting out ads constantly trying to convince white women to fuck black men, however. Whitecels should know this. I have no power. I'm just some retard on the internet. The people that do have power, they are liberal and they want white women fucking black men.
Anonymous No.82763764 >>82763790
>>82763730
>Defending the advertisements like his life depends on it while screeching insults at anyone who doesn't blindly drink the shitwater
>'How dare you accurately depict my behavior'
Anonymous No.82763782 >>82763799
>>82763719
>he doesn't know there's an entire continent of white people who speak languages other than English
good bait
Anonymous No.82763790 >>82763838
>>82763764
I never said any of that. Don't put words in my mouth, you shcizoid.
I have many criticisms of leftoids, I hate them just as much. In this instance, however, I am talking to you. And I want you to know, I want to make it very clear to you, that you are a fucking moron. Your neurotic reaction is just the cherry on top, and the best proof of my point.

The truth is that I never defended it. I just attacked YOU. If your IQ is too low to distinguish the two, it's your own fault.
The more you talk about things that never happened, the more retarded you look.
Anonymous No.82763799
>>82763782
>entire continent of white people who speak languages other than English
Latinos aren't white
Anonymous No.82763814 >>82763821
>>82763739
>doesn't fall in line with whatever schizophrenic nonsense
>becomes a nazi
what a clown
Anonymous No.82763821 >>82763840
>>82763814
>N-NO U!!! NO U!!! I SAID NO U!!!
Keku
Anonymous No.82763831 >>82763853
>>82763753
Not the entire world just the former roman empire territory. They tried so hard to emulate the glory of ancient rome only to emulate its failure
Anonymous No.82763838 >>82763875
>>82763790
>Anyone who notices it or says anything about it is pathetic and weak and a cuckold and schizophrenic and retarded and and and
>But I'm not defending it though, teehee
This is actually sad.
Anonymous No.82763840 >>82763855
>>82763821
>a virgin typed this
Shameful
Anonymous No.82763849 >>82763868 >>82763920
>>82763722
the first ones have no chance to ever get power and are in most cases lolcows the second ones hold it right now along with every other lever of power,they wont brutalize you in camps like nazis,they wont assasinate you like the communist party would,but they will snuff you out in much quieter ways if need be and there is nothing and nobody you can turn to when they do.
There is a reason libs have dominated every specter of politics here since 89 they arent just the biggest faction like the communist party was they are every faction from the underground mob to the secret services they are all in one grand liberal coalition this dynamic is the same in every country the name just changes.
Anonymous No.82763850 >>82763873
>>82763753
This is what happens when you sleep through history classes and spend your adolescence on /pol/. What a sad specimen you have become
Anonymous No.82763853
>>82763831
If Italian fascism wasn't co-opted by the racial psyops of the Nazi movement, they might have managed to actually emulate the Roman Empire.
The original movement was way more patriotic and functional.
Anonymous No.82763855 >>82763885
>>82763840
>Loses argument
>Tries to no u
>Then switches to woman-like shaming to tactics
Lol you're thinking about my cock and sex life.
Anonymous No.82763868 >>82763913
>>82763849
>the first ones have no chance to ever get power
Not after showing the world what they did with power
Anonymous No.82763873 >>82763907
>>82763850
>More shaming with no arguments or rationaIe
>Actually muh history class
You mean the same history class that teaches about the physically impossible events of the holocaust like it somehow makes any sense?
Anonymous No.82763875 >>82763886
>>82763838
>Anyone who notices it or says anything about it is pathetic
I didn't say this at any point.
The saddest thing here is how you can't make an argument that isn't based on falsehoods.
The more you reply to me, the more I'm proven correct. Did you change your tampon btw?
Anonymous No.82763879 >>82763894
It's very simple, white anons, the message of liberalism is the "sharing" of power between different groups. However, you hold no power. Your entire life has been shit up until this point. Your entire life has been lived under a liberal culture. They are not talking about sharing MORE power with you. They are talking about ways to take more power away. How is that possible you might ask? How can they take away from me what I don't already have. Well, look at South Africa. They want to laws to openly discriminate against you in favor of other groups. That's their real goal. There is nothing "high IQ" about liberalism. It is fucking retarded. You live in a world with limited resources and any one group wants the most resources for themselves. This is human nature.
Anonymous No.82763885 >>82763903
>>82763855
>The "argument" he thinks he won has been lost for 70 years
Clown makeup
Anonymous No.82763886 >>82763950
>>82763875
>if you're that weak, and feel personally slighted by ads
>Retard still has to lie like his life depends on it
You have the argumentative ability of a teenage girl that says anyone who disagrees with her is 'cringe'.
Anonymous No.82763894
>>82763879
Like you said, you have no power to be taken away
Anonymous No.82763903 >>82763961
>>82763885
>Yeah we just had to you know team up the entire world against you with the backing of central banks and the new world to crush you and destroy any and all remnants before you could achieve anything and then made it illegal to hold such beliefs in certain countries
>I guess that means your ideology sucks, teehee
Are you even trying anymore?
Anonymous No.82763907 >>82763951
>>82763873
>Nazi sympathizer is a history denialist
Shocker. You'll be a flat earther if you keep it up
Anonymous No.82763913 >>82763942
>>82763868
thats not why lol the world dosent care nazi collaborators get statues here and eucrats like kaja kallas call them brave resistance fighters.
These types dont hold power because they are stupid and bad at politics.
Anonymous No.82763920 >>82763979
>>82763849
>they wont brutalize you in camps like nazis
I love how even in your own apologist paragraph you couldn't help but answering truthfully
Anonymous No.82763942 >>82763954
>>82763913
>the world dosent care
>Is in a thread about a nazi crying over the loss of a friend to liberalism
The world doesn't take you seriously anymore
Anonymous No.82763950 >>82763965
>>82763886
The only one who has lied here, is you. I haven't lied at any point. You, on the other hand, have misquoted me, argued a completely different point, changed the goalpost several times.
As I said, you can't argue, you have no arguments. You are a schizo. And your logic doesn't hold up to reality, which is why you have to make up things that never happened in order to make your arguments.
>if you're that weak, and feel personally slighted by ads
this is an attack on you. Not a defense for the content of the ads. It's the 3rd time I have to tell you this. Because you can't cope with the fact that both, the ads, and you, are retarded.
>teenage girl
you see, I already pointed out how you argue like a woman. You can't just say "no u" without first addressing the fact that you did it first. Otherwise, you just prove me right, once again.
You are stupid, anon. A genuinely stupid human. Maybe one day you will realize it.
Anonymous No.82763951 >>82763978 >>82763991
>>82763907
>Okay there were 6 million bodies and they cremated all of them.
That's physically impossible
>Okay, well they didn't cremate all of them. They only cremated a few and then dug mass braves to the rest
Okay let's see the mass graves
>THAT'S ILLEGAL YOU FUCKING NAZI CHUD!!!
The things you believe in are indistinguishable from the retardation of flat earthers.
Anonymous No.82763954
>>82763942
>the marginal neet board is representative of the world

lol
Anonymous No.82763961 >>82763986
>>82763903
>My ideology is universally hated
>Does that mean my ideology is bad?
>No... It's everyone else who is the problem
Anonymous No.82763965 >>82764148
>>82763950
>this is an attack on you
Yes, it was an attack on a guy who noticed because he noticed and that enraged you because you're defending the ads. I'm glad you typed out all that shit just to accidentally slip up and to admit to what I'm saying.
Anonymous No.82763978 >>82763993
>>82763951
>Nazi's atrocities are limited to the jews, and not the other millions of people they slaughtered
Typical apologist. Blinded by his hate for jews.
Anonymous No.82763979 >>82763985
>>82763920
read it again retard
Anonymous No.82763985 >>82764009
>>82763979
I think you should read again the part where you admitted that the enemies of the libs have less to fear than the enemies of nazism, showing a clear moral discrepancy between the two.
Anonymous No.82763986 >>82764001 >>82764014 >>82764074
>>82763961
>We've spent billions of dollars on propaganda and shoving the fact you're bad down kid's throats as soon as they're born with everything from schools, media, events and more to label you the worst evil to ever exist
>This means you're bad
But it isn't universally hated, that's why you need laws to prevent people from thinking in ways you don't like. If it was universally hated you wouldn't need the propaganda, you wouldn't need to arrest anybody who uses such symbols, you wouldn't need to spam online 24/7 about how bad they are.
Anonymous No.82763991 >>82764010
>>82763951
>let's see the mass graves
Anonymous No.82763993
>>82763978
>Can't defend it so he changes the subject
Keku
Anonymous No.82764001 >>82764021
>>82763986
>Nothing says "good political narrative" like the world uniting against it
Such an incel opinion
Anonymous No.82764004
leftoids are seething
Anonymous No.82764006
>>82763007 (OP)
I knew a guy who did similar shit. Went from nazi to far left communist to radical Muslim to tranny, dunno what he is now. The last step could be explained by this older dude he met on discord when he graduated high school. The rest I think was just a call for attention. People who bounce around the spectrum tend to be full of shit.
Anonymous No.82764009
>>82763985
the enemies of libs and chuds are the same people because these two are the same,chuds are just out of style right now so the more capable ones runt the show
Anonymous No.82764010 >>82764023
>>82763991
>Look at this black and white photo this is indisputable evidence
Where is that? I guarantee you don't know, and if you do know I bet it's not legal to go and check if there's anything actually there.
Anonymous No.82764014 >>82764039
>>82763986
>it isn't universally hated
It's very popular among mentally unstable disenfranchised lonely men lmao
Anonymous No.82764021 >>82764051
>>82764001
>Well if Hollywood and the central banks hate you and spend billions of dollars to discredit you for decades it must mean you're bad
Lmfao
Anonymous No.82764023 >>82764062
>>82764010
Liberation of Bergen Belsen
Anonymous No.82764039
>>82764014
>Ran out of pulpil and circled back around to woman-like shaming tactics
Lol
Anonymous No.82764051 >>82764069
>>82764021
>The world mocked us
>That must mean we were right
Poor virgin boy
Anonymous No.82764062 >>82764093
>>82764023
Aaaaaand it is a legal to check and see if there's actually anything in those graves, lmfao. You are not legally allowed to dig nor are you allowed to perform geological scans of any of the sites to check for remains.
Anonymous No.82764069 >>82764081
>>82764051
>Ur unpopular, that's why we're trying to criminalize your beliefs and threaten people away from them, mkay sweaty?
You're broken, kek.
Anonymous No.82764074 >>82764092
>>82763986
If it wasn't universally hated, nazis wouldn't have united commies and capitalists against a common goal.
>Be so vitriolic you make Stalin and Churchill shake hands
>80 years later only permanently online losers are on that side
Anonymous No.82764076
leftists are still absolutely SEETHING
Anonymous No.82764081 >>82764114
>>82764069
>I'm so unpopular it must mean I'm right
Said the village idiot
Anonymous No.82764092 >>82764109
>>82764074
>It's universally hated that's why we have to make laws, stopping people from believing it
>Well if the jewish controlled commies and the jewish central banks don't like you then NOBODY likes you!
None of you are even making arguments anymore.
Anonymous No.82764093 >>82764138
>>82764062
They do that all the time and keep finding more evidence of the massacre lmao.
Ignorance is the soil where nazism is sowed.
Anonymous No.82764109 >>82764143
>>82764092
>It's universally hated
>That's why century old enemies united against it
Correct, little virgin
Anonymous No.82764114 >>82764122
>>82764081
> You're unpopular that's why we need laws against you, and to fire you from your job by threatening your employers with what will happen if they don't, and attack you
You aren't making the point you think you're making.
Anonymous No.82764122 >>82764143
>>82764114
>You're unpopular that's why the world united forces against you
Indeed.
Nazis did more to bring east and west together than anything else in history lmao.
Anonymous No.82764138 >>82764201
>>82764093
>Okay you can check but only if you're approved by the same people who made the claim in the first place
>Also, they can only do it in secret. No one else is allowed to watch or take pictures during it unless they're pre-approved
And you have the gall to call others ignorant, lmfao
Anonymous No.82764143 >>82764222
>>82764109
>>82764122
>It's having a mental breakdown repeating itself because it couldn't win the argument
Holy shit I broke you.
Anonymous No.82764148 >>82764171
>>82763965
I didn't slip up at all. And you are still misinterpreting it. lmfao
How can you be so daft?
Do you really not see how your characterization is wrong? Are you REALLY that stupid? You have to be doing this deliberately, intentional dishonesty, you can't possibly be this fucking retarded lmao
Anonymous No.82764168
>>82763066
Let me guess, now you're 18?
Anonymous No.82764171 >>82764202
>>82764148
>it's still trying
You literally just admitted it was an attack on someone for speaking out against the ads, end of story. Thanks for playing.
Anonymous No.82764201 >>82764276
>>82764138
>What's that? Evidence contradicting my false and stale nazi propaganda?
>I'll pass, thanks
https://amp.dw.com/en/nazi-era-mass-grave-discovered-on-building-site-in-belarus/a-47722826
Anonymous No.82764202 >>82764292
>>82764171
>You literally just admitted it was an attack on someone for speaking out against the ads
You're gonna have to keep trying until you get it right. I, at no point, criticized his attack of the ads, I criticized his stance on the power of such ads, on their effectiveness and on their societal impact, as well as his assertions and implications.

Try again, fuckwit. You are a retarded moron, with 0 reading comprehension skills. You shouldn't even be allowed to fucking vote. As you are mentally deficient.
Anonymous No.82764222 >>82764303
>>82764143
>"I won the argument"
>Lost 80 years ago
>Still hasn't recovered
Sad
Anonymous No.82764276 >>82764311
>>82764201
>It's literally illegal to check for yourself but all this proof we found is totally legitimate
Lmfao
Anonymous No.82764292 >>82764841
>>82764202
>I, at no point, criticized his attack of the ads
>>if you're that weak, and feel personally slighted by ads
You keep typing all these words while I can just scroll up a bit.
Anonymous No.82764303 >>82764321
>>82764222
>It literally has a collection of these photos it jerks off to
>Still no coherent argument
>Jewish banks and jewish Soviets pooled their wealth and resources to destroy you so you're bad because they said so
Keku
Anonymous No.82764311 >>82764329
>>82764276
>Mass grave found during house construction
You're reaching so far it's coming across as desperation
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62161018.amp
Anonymous No.82764321 >>82764355
>>82764303
>coherent argument
>"The nazis were good because they were hated by everyone except themselves, that could only mean they were doing god's work"
Poor virgin boy mistook naszism for a personality and now you can't find friends
Anonymous No.82764329 >>82764357
>>82764311
>Look, our pre-approved proof is real
>Any body we ever find anywhere ever is proof
>Also it's still illegal to check for yourself
You calling me desperate is hilarious.
Anonymous No.82764355 >>82764373 >>82764450
>>82764321
>were hated by everyone
But they're not universally hated. That's why you need laws and regulations to stop people from thinking that way, that's also why you had to pool two separate, not the entire world, two separate but allied groups to destroy it. The Soviets and the west weren't the entire world they were just the ones with jewish influence at high levels such as the central banks and Soviet party. You keep saying the entire world because you're desperate to convince even yourself of that.
Anonymous No.82764357 >>82764382
>>82764329
>Evidence contradicting my beliefs?
>Doesn't count
Poor soul
https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/08/19/mass-grave-shows-evidence-of-genocide-against-poles-by-nazi-germany-say-archaeologists/
Anonymous No.82764373 >>82764398
>>82764355
>They weren't universally hated
>They just united sworn enemies against a common goal
True, they're not hated by everyone. They are idolized by nazi incels like you, lmao
Anonymous No.82764378
>>82763007 (OP)
Yeah, most people stop being 14 years old after a year. That is how age generally works.
Anonymous No.82764382 >>82764404
>>82764357
>Look, the people who made the claim have all this proof!
>It's still illegal to check for yourself though
Lmfao
Anonymous No.82764386 >>82764398
>everyone who hated nazis was a jew
That's why you lost the war
Anonymous No.82764398 >>82764413
>>82764373
>If two people who don't like each other team up against you it means everyone everywhere for all of time hates you
This is so schizophrenic and you're still going.
>>82764386
>Retard worked himself up so much he can't even (You) properly anymore
Anonymous No.82764404 >>82764429
>>82764382
You can check all these for yourself but you won't do it though because you're not that interested in uncovering truth. You wouldn't risk unmasking nazi lies
Anonymous No.82764413
>>82764398
>two people who don't like each other
>Stalin and Churchill
The understatement of the century lmao
Anonymous No.82764424
>not an argument
Admittance of intellectual defeat
Anonymous No.82764429 >>82764463
>>82764404
>You can check
I can, with their approval, check whatever they 'dug up'. However it's illegal for me to check on my own without oversight from the people who made the claim to begin with.
Anonymous No.82764444 >>82764533 >>82764922
Right-wingers and nazis in this thread acting like their extremism is "normal" in comparison to a run of the mill generic lib is fucking hilarious. Liberal and progressive politics has been the natural direction for civilization's entire existence. There has not once been a right-wing takeover or shift that didn't end shortly after its rise.
Anonymous No.82764450 >>82764471
>>82764355
>The Soviets and the west weren't the entire world
They were more than half of the world population and were the two most powerful states at the time, but reducing them to the status of "jew" allows you to ignore their intentions and remove your own agency/responsibility in dealing with them, just like Hitler did lmao
Anonymous No.82764463 >>82764479
>>82764429
You won't look hard for Nazi's mass grave because you're interested in cleaning their reputation, not uncovering the dirt
Anonymous No.82764471 >>82764492
>>82764450
>reducing them to the status of "jew"
Okay so you're just going to lie and pretend the heads of the central banking system and many members of Soviet elite? I mean sure, if we just play pretend then yeah your worldview is correct.
Anonymous No.82764476 >>82764489
>brought up the world in flames in just 6 years
>They weren't universally hated
That's what happens when you take your history from /pol/
Anonymous No.82764479 >>82764519
>>82764463
No, I won't do that because I'm not interested in ending up in prison for the rest of my life for trying to find proof that doesn't exist, which is why it's illegal to check, because it doesn't exist
Anonymous No.82764482
leftists support israel through their actions even if they hate them
Anonymous No.82764489 >>82764502
>>82764476
>It's so brain broken it can't even properly respond anymore and is spamming posts into the void
Anonymous No.82764492 >>82764509
>>82764471
>Everyone who opposed nazis in ww2 were jews
Damn bro didn't know there were 65 million jews in the world back then
Anonymous No.82764502 >>82764531
>>82764489
>No argument
This is what Intellectual defeat looks like
Anonymous No.82764509 >>82764537
>>82764492
>He thinks John Q. Citizen in an infantry division was fighting the Nazis because he oppose them ideologically and not because he was drafted and told by his government to do so
Holy shit you're actually just retarded, lmfao
Anonymous No.82764519 >>82764531
>>82764479
>Has been shown literal pictures and evidence of mass graves
>Still denied
Like arguing with a flat earther
Anonymous No.82764531 >>82764588 >>82764667
>>82764502
You've made four non-(You) posts and not a single one has an argument I can respond to, they're just insulting me because nothing you believe makes any sense.
>>82764519
>Dude here black and white photos that means that they're real, they're actually from the location it says, and that they were specifically done by people I don't like
>Also it's illegal to go and check for yourself
Anonymous No.82764533 >>82764541
>>82764444
quads of reality
Anonymous No.82764537 >>82764564
>>82764509
>Immediately thinks of an American soldier
>And not the eastern europeans who witnessed the darkest side of nazi occupation
It's so sad to see how much american education has failed you
Anonymous No.82764540 >>82764549
leftism is a mental illness and it cannot be applied to real life, society or civilization, arguing with them is ultimately pointless because they are unwell, evil and should be in prison or a mental hospital
Anonymous No.82764541 >>82764551
>>82764533
Holy shit they're samefagging "ur so rite" now, just lol.
Anonymous No.82764549
>>82764540
You misspelled nazis
Anonymous No.82764551 >>82764603
>>82764541
lol ur so mad rn
Anonymous No.82764564 >>82764698
>>82764537
>Now he's shifting the subject to how he's upset about the meaningless example I provide
>He thinks Slavs were fighting because they disagreed with national socialism as a concept and not because their government would literally kill them if they didn't fight
I love how your example is even worse than the one I gave, and you somehow treated that like it was an argument.
Anonymous No.82764588 >>82764603
>>82764531
Additional to the photographic evidence there are dozens of mass graves uncovered/unearthed in modern times that you just ignore because, to no one's surprise, a fascist is not interested in uncovering factual history, you're interested in denying it so you can build your own version of it.
Anonymous No.82764603 >>82764622 >>82764688
>>82764551
>What is inspect element
>>82764588
>dozens of mass graves uncovered/unearthed in modern times
All conveniently by the people who made the claim, and it's still illegal to go and check yourself. If you try to do a scan of the soil for remains without their oversight and input they will arrest you and give you decades in prison, why do you think that is?
Anonymous No.82764622 >>82764632
>>82764603
>guys there's no way that I'M the weird one it's totally normal to be a right-wing extremist I'm totally not just a reactionary moron with no ability to discern from reality or propaganda bro there's no way I'M THE NORMAL ONE I SWEAR HE MUST BE FAKING THE SCREENSHOT THERE'S NO WAY BRO THERE'S NO WAY
Anonymous No.82764632 >>82764641 >>82764691 >>82764695
>>82764622
>Immediate angry spaz-out upon being figured out instantly
Anonymous No.82764641 >>82764665
>>82764632
pssssh what a fuckin loser
Anonymous No.82764665 >>82764678
>>82764641
>Runs out of pilpul and falls back on woman-like shaming tactics
Dude, cyclical argumentation is rad and you should do it more often.
Anonymous No.82764667 >>82764702
>>82764531
>nothing you believe makes any sense.
>The person saying the nazis were actually the good guys
Oh yeah nothing spells good governance like blitzkrieging your way into a territory you cannot possibly hold, with 20+ million casualties
Anonymous No.82764678 >>82764702
>>82764665
>Has the same ideology of a 14yo with poor education
She thought she ate
Anonymous No.82764688 >>82764721
>>82764603
>All conveniently by the people who made the claim
If you had actually read the articles, you would realize these mass graves were uncovered during house constructions.
Anonymous No.82764691 >>82764695 >>82764731
>>82764632
NTA but please anon nobody can be this retarded. You literally argue like me when I was 13. There is NO way you're underage or else you're like severely mentally stunted
Anonymous No.82764695
>>82764632
>>82764691
not underage*
Anonymous No.82764698 >>82764762
>>82764564
The example you provided shows how removed you are from the actual repercussions of nazi atrocities. It's a perfect example of how you can still view them as heroes to idolize instead of imperialistic losers.
Anonymous No.82764702 >>82764733 >>82764784 >>82764796
>>82764678
>More shaming
Lol
>>82764667
>Government and war doctrine are the same thing
I didn't say they were perfect, retard, I said they weren't cartoon villains trying to conquer the world and replace everybody with nothing but blonde hair and blue eyes will magically deleting 6 million jews from existence with their Aryan magic. Militarily they were retarded, due both to the incompetence of some and the pressure from outside forcing their hand in some situations.
Anonymous No.82764721 >>82764740 >>82764749 >>82764760
>>82764688
>uncovered during house constructions
So someone found something that looked like a massive grave and didn't take ANY pictures before they contacted the news and got an approved group to come out an take over? Is that also why after they're found it immediately becomes illegal to dig more or scan the ground for more remains?
Anonymous No.82764731 >>82764741
>>82764691
>More woman-like shaming tactics
You might as well just call me gay, it would be just as effective as making whatever point your attempting.
Anonymous No.82764733 >>82764762
>>82764702
>I didn't say they were perfect
>Still defends them like he's been paid to do it
From the powers at be during ww2, they were definitely the evilest, the only fair contender being Japan, their ally.
Your refusal to admit this, instead quoting jewish conspiracies, is in contradiction with historical evidence.
If you aren't an adolescent, you should try harder not to sound like one.
Anonymous No.82764740 >>82764762
>>82764721
>something that looked like a massive grave
1000+ skeletons buried look like a mass grave to you? Damn boy don't be jumping to conclusions, you be sounding like a radical
Anonymous No.82764741 >>82764775 >>82764775
>>82764731
Your logic is just refuting evidence without even opening the links because it doesn't serve your narrative. I can get disliking Jews but holocaust denial is just retarded
Anonymous No.82764749
>>82764721
>didn't take ANY pictures before they contacted the news
There are plenty of pictures in the links I provided actually.
You're closing your eyes to evidence
Anonymous No.82764760 >>82764775
>>82764721
>it immediately becomes illegal to dig more or scan the ground for more remains
That's not at all true, one of the sites uncovered has been digged up for nearly 10 years and they keep finding more bones
Anonymous No.82764762 >>82764848 >>82764879
>>82764698
>More shaming and insults
You're at such a loss for anything to say that you're hyper fixating on a joke name I chose, I also noticed how you ignored the fact that Slavs weren't ideologically opposed either.
>>82764733
>No arguments and more shaming
>>82764740
Are you retarded? Do you think that the construction crews dug up the entire thing? The implication is that they hit something that looked like a body and immediately called for someone to come look at it, they didn't dig up the entire fucking pit and only realized when it was completely uncovered that it was a mass grave. What the fuck were you even trying to say here?
Anonymous No.82764775 >>82764804 >>82764829
>>82764741
>>82764741
>Yes, it's illegal to check on your own but we have this news article and pictures about it, which was approved and curated by the people who made the claim
Okay
>>82764760
'Digged up' by whom? The people who made the claim to begin with? So they wouldn't mind me going independently on my own and checking right? Oh no, wait, I would get arrested if I did that.
Anonymous No.82764784 >>82764927
>>82764702
>magically deleting 6 million jews
>Ignoring the 2 million polish citizens
>The 250k handicapped
>The 20k homos
>The 500k gypsies
>The 5k Jehovah's witnesses
>The 4 million prisoners of war
>The 5 million soviet citizens
Your hatred for jews is blinding you, making you shut your eyes to recorded history
Anonymous No.82764794 >>82764836
leftists cannot refute this
Anonymous No.82764796 >>82764936
>>82764702
>Militarily they were retarded, due both to the incompetence of some and the pressure from outside forcing their hand in some situations.
You're such an apologist you can't help yourself but outsource nazi incompetence to "external influences forcing them", it's hilarious
Anonymous No.82764804 >>82764960
>>82764775
>Digged up' by whom?
It's funny because you haven't really looked at who did the digging, but you already decided in your heart that it was jews lmao
Anonymous No.82764829 >>82764960
>>82764775
>it's illegal to check on your own
You can check a bunch of evidence on your own either visiting sites or museums but no amount of evidence is enough because you will always find another excuse.
Even if by some miracle you were intellectually able to admit that a particular skeleton found in a particular digging site is genuine, you would just claim that is the exception and not the rule. There's no historical event on earth that could survive your level of scrutiny that you apply to the nazi war crimes.
Anonymous No.82764836
>>82764794
"It's elementary, my dear Watson. Corporations have been buying massive amounts of housing, while importing immigrants for cheap labor."
"But Holmes, isn't the simpler explanation that the immigrants are taking the housing?"
"Watson, you idiot! Cheap labor makes the amount of available housing go UP."
Anonymous No.82764841 >>82764974
>>82764292
>You keep typing all these words while I can just scroll up a bit.
yes, and I am being consistent. I the text you quoted does not attack the content of the ad, or his criticism of it, but his reaction to it.
You are having a really hard time with this lmao
Anonymous No.82764848 >>82765037
>>82764762
>weren't ideologically opposed
>To the army invading their country with ethnic eraser intention
I guess Hitler calling them subhuman wasn't oppositional enough?
Anonymous No.82764859
>>82763007 (OP)
people grow up
Anonymous No.82764879 >>82765037
>>82764762
>The implication is that they hit something that looked like a body and immediately called for someone to come look at it
And you are implying that "jews" appeared right away and planted 3 tons of ash and 70yo skeletal remains to fake a mass grave site?
You have the whole excavation process being recorded from a small grave to the whole site, but unless you were personally doing the digging, you won't believe in it?
That's awfully limiting. Is there other historical events whose archeological findings you doubt as much? Your skepticism is very selective and aimed towards nazi war crimes against jews, and barely acknowledges other targeted groups
Anonymous No.82764922
>>82764444
>Liberal and progressive politics has been the natural direction for civilization's entire existence.
only since the French revolution in the West
and even then it's debatable
Anonymous No.82764927 >>82764979 >>82765003 >>82765055 >>82765221
>>82764784
>>Ignoring the
Because there's actually some proof for the rest of those, especially the handicapped, because they did put people in camps and a lot of people died from poor conditions and I'm sure there was plenty of fuckery with the soldiers being violent subhumans acting outside of orders like with every military. Again, they are not perfect, they did plenty of evil. You know who else did plenty of evil? Everyone everywhere. I'm not saying that they didn't kill anyone or even a lot of people, I'm saying that there wasn't a holocoaster death camp with electric floors and delousing gas champers because they wanted to genocide everyone who wasn't them. Same way the Soviets killed a ton of people but it wasn't because Soviet ideology wanted to kill them all, just shitty planning and awful leadership in key position. You actually can find smaller mass graves with slavs, romani, handicapped and more but they're much smaller than what's reported in the physically impossible embellishments that came after the war.
Anonymous No.82764936 >>82764987
>>82764796
>Both due to
I'm glad you know how to read
Anonymous No.82764960
>>82764804
>Won't actually say it in the thread because even he knows
Come on, who are the people digging it up?
>>82764829
>You can check for yourself but only in areas we curated and set up specifically to show that what we said is all real
Yeah I'm sure there's a lot of skeletons all over Europe, that doesn't mean when you find him that there's a mask grave there that specifically connect with the people you don't like specifically for the reasons you don't like specifically for the ideology you don't like.
Anonymous No.82764974 >>82765326
>>82764841
>but his reaction to it.
Okay, so you attacked him for noticing and are defending the ads. You've admitted this three times now and you keep responding to me as if this argument is still going.
Anonymous No.82764979 >>82765058
>>82764927
>There's proof for every nazi genocide except for jews
Intellectually dishonest. Nazi's sorted live prisoners, but not dead ones.
Anonymous No.82764987 >>82765058
>>82764936
>It's only half their fault
>The other half of the blame is beyond them
I'd pay good money to see your age
Anonymous No.82765003 >>82765058
>>82764927
>sure there was plenty of fuckery with the soldiers being violent subhumans acting outside of orders
Lmao you're such an irredeemable apologist, the closest you got to admitting nazi war crimes, is saying their soldiers acted "out of orders", conveniently cleaning the hands of your idols.
Pathetic display of allegiance to a dead regime
Anonymous No.82765037 >>82765078
>>82764848
Do you think they picked up a firearm and charged into gunfire because Hitler was mean to them? No, they didn't give a shit about why they were being attacked, they just knew they were being attacked and fought because they were either told to or genuinely patriotic to defend their home. Not a single person in the front lines was thinking;
>Golly gee I sure don't like that Hitler guy's opinion on us so I'm gonna sign up and show him what for!
They were thinking
>There's an enemy soldier, this is my home, I'll fight because I have to.
>>82764879
No, I'm implying they found two or three skeletons, freaked out and called for someone to come look at it because they just found remains. Then it immediately became illegal to look into it further and the people making the claims took over, whether it's a museum or historical society. They didn't have to 'plant' anything because it's illegal to go and check what's there without their approval and oversight. They don't have to make it look convincing, they just have to make it illegal to look.
Anonymous No.82765055 >>82765123
>>82764927
>they are not perfect
Lmao even
>They did plenty of evil
>Still refuses to call them evil even after admitting literal handicap genocide
>"But what about all the others?"
You should focus your defense of nazism by explaining how they are not evil instead of pointing the finger at other regimes. If your defense of nazis rely on finding someone who did worse, that's a bad place to start.
But if you actually engaged with the topic honestly, specially after admitting their crimes against several minority groups, you would eventually reach the point that OP's friend reached: a sudden realization of how futile it is to defend a regime of accusations of being evil, when Hitler himself would have admitted to these accounts with great proud and splendor as if they cemented his place in history.
Anonymous No.82765058 >>82765124 >>82765143
>>82764979
Yeah they sorted the live ones, so when they died they got put into separate holes. Doesn't mean they did a massive extermination.
>>82764987
>>82765003
>Still no arguments, just shaming and mockery
Lmfao you retards are flailing and it's hysterical. There's like five different people responding to me and none of you haven't argument.
Anonymous No.82765078 >>82765137
>>82765037
>Do you think they picked up a firearm and charged into gunfire because Hitler was mean to them?
It probably had something to do with an enemy army invading your country and taking 30% of the land in 2 weeks, killing millions of civilians. but that's just a guess
Anonymous No.82765123
>>82765055
>explaining how they are not evil
Because if your definition of 'evil' is 'they were responsible for the deaths of people' then every government on the planet is irredeemably evil and humanity needs to be bombed into the stone age so there's not a trace of any of these 'evil' regimes that currently stand. Putting people in camps to remove them elsewhere only for them to die because you're losing a war and your entire nation is falling apart isn't the same as putting them in the MurderBox 9000 to the tune of 10+ million casualties. There's a difference between the harsh reality of like and this cartoon catastrophe you cling to were the mustache twirling villains go to comical lengths to systematically kill people while trying to fight a war which would take up such an obscene amount of resources and manpower that they wouldn't have lasted five months against the allies let alone years.
Anonymous No.82765124 >>82765212
>>82765058
your claim that nazi war crimes were the fault of soldiers disobeying orders and being more brutal to prisoners than they were told to, that's a claim that serves as a direct defense of the nazi leaders.
It is a claim that you will find very hard to sustain with any historical evidence other than your own opinion
Anonymous No.82765137 >>82765183 >>82765205
>>82765078
Okay, so then it had nothing to do with opposing the ideology or some grand battle of belief systems? It was a war for resources and influence like every other war, I'm glad you agree.
Anonymous No.82765143 >>82765227
>>82765058
>so when they died they got put into separate holes
That's not backed up by any evidence though. It's just your wild personal theory that every nazi mass grave uncovered was devoid of jews.
Conveniently it's unfalsifiable too.
Anonymous No.82765183 >>82765252
>>82765137
You speak as if you were unaware of lebensraum.
It was an integral part of the ideology that Germanic peoples took eastern europe. For any eastern european alive in 1941 onwards, your very life was a direct opposition to nazi ideology
Anonymous No.82765205 >>82765252
>>82765137
War for resources and influences are fought on the battlefield with guns, and on the platonic field with ideas and ideologies.
For example, you are a person who lost that internal platonic battle to nazis long ago
Anonymous No.82765212 >>82765249 >>82765358 >>82765400
>>82765124
If you can show me the part of history where Hitler sat down at a table and said;
>Okay, we have to exterminate all the non-blondes with blue eyes. Now, instead of just killing them when we find them we're gonna put them in camps where we'll feed and cloth them, and we'll also transfer them between camps for some reason. Ignoring all of the logistical issues that come with that, such as the food we're wasting on them and the guards we're wasting on them, we're gonna gas them with a chemical that's not that great at killing people so we're gonna need a lot of it, then we're gonna try to cremate a bunch of them despite the fact it will take decades to even put a dent in the numbers we're considering here and it will nigh cripple the war effort, I will do this even if it kills me!
I will concede immediately.
Anonymous No.82765221 >>82765321
>>82764927
>they are not perfect
Holy dude it does sound like you are more interested in defending their reputation than denouncing their crimes
Anonymous No.82765227 >>82765286 >>82765397
>>82765143
You just said they sorted them when they were alive, so unless they decided to, for some reason, play mix and match with the bodies and move them to different areas to mix them in different graves then it's the logical conclusion. If you find a grave with a Polish person in it, them another, and another, then a lot of the people in that grave are probably going to be Polish.
Anonymous No.82765249 >>82765321
>>82765212
If you will only believe a genocide happened if you can find the direct order, you won't believe any genocide took place in human history, which is a travesty because we have witnessed a lot of those.
But one thing that we have also witnessed, is apologists who try and make excuses for dictatorships and autocracies, blatant denying whatever evidence that resurfaced against all odds, evidence that scantily survived the campaign of erasure and misinformation.
You are one of them.
Anonymous No.82765252 >>82765305
>>82765183
I wasn't talking about the Germans, I was talking about the slavs, because you mentioned them. Even then Lebensraum was the party's idea, your average grunt on the ground wasn't thinking;
>I NEED THIS LAND FOR THE FUTURE OF THE WHITE RACE!
the were thinking about the fact their commanding officer ordered them to take it. This idea that the soldiers that fight on the battlefield are exactly aligned with the party they're fighting for is absolutely deranged and I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make.
>>82765205
>Shame! Shame! Shame!
Are you ever going to give this up? You can't insult people out of an idea.
Anonymous No.82765286 >>82765446
>>82765227
>If you find a grave with a Polish person in it, them another, and another, then a lot of the people in that grave are probably going to be Polish.
It's funny you mentioned the Polish because from every minority group targeted by nazis, polish jews got by far the worst treatment.
Your implication is that none of the mass graves found are pertaining to jews, and that claim is countered by evidence.
But you will have a hard time finding any evidence for your claim that despite persecuting (by your own admission) polish, soviets, gypsies, handicapped, homos, commies, Jehovah's witnesses, blacks, enemies of the state, soldiers and citizens of fallen states, they somehow gave the jews a free genocide pass.
Anonymous No.82765305 >>82765380
>>82765252
And I am talking about the Slavs. Their very life in their country was in opposition to nazi ideology, and the nazi armies that invaded their land.
You mentioned Soviet forcing soldiers to fight or die, which is true, but that doesn't mean there wasn't ideological opposition between nazis and slavs. Nazism considered the Slavic white people as subhuman as other races, and Hitler directed quoted their replacement.
It means that without being forced to fight, these soldiers would have deserted.
Anonymous No.82765321 >>82765465 >>82765483
>>82765249
No, I would settle for evidence, evidence which doesn't exist outside of the people who made the claim and have sole rights to any of said evidence. You could literally convince me in 5 minutes if I was independently allowed to walk up to any of these supposed mass graves, perform a geological scan to see that it is actually at the scope they proposed for myself. However, since that is very illegal, I can't do that.
>>82765221
Because you don't actually want to know about what I think they did wrong, you just want to pin a massive, physically impossible, comically evil crime onto them and say it was all part of the master plan to sabotage themselves for some reason. There's plenty to criticize, but you don't care about any of that, you care about the many mass graves you aren't allowed to independently examine.
Anonymous No.82765326 >>82765380
>>82764974
>you attacked him for noticing and are defending the ads
You are literally incapable of telling the truth. It's fucking amazing how much you have to rely on your own lies to make your narrative make sense.
Such a sad state, that of the retard.
That is not what happened, I have told you and provided evidence that this is not what I said. And yet, you still lie.
Anonymous No.82765358
>>82765212
>instead of just killing them when we find them we're gonna put them in camps
First they asked targeted groups to wear identification. It was a very gradual change with incremental steps that were recorded by Nazi's historians themselves.
First they were forced to id with armbands. Then they were excluded from certain parts of public life, barred from owning business, prohibited from visiting shops and other public places.
Then came the ghettos. It was downhill from there.
These are all very amply documented up until their removal from ghettos to camps. The mystery lies on what happened inside those camps.
Not even Nazi's themselves deny that these groups were in fact gathered in prison camps. Even the most vile apologists will admit these people die. They just deny that Nazis had the intention all along. Like you, they paint these deaths as a happy accident
Anonymous No.82765380 >>82765425 >>82765430 >>82765442
>>82765305
>Their very life in their country was in opposition to nazi ideology
This is such a cop out I can only assume you're fucking with me here. You could use that point in reference to literally any conflict humanity has ever had from the world wars to drug dealers shooting each other over turf;
>The enemy wants my land, and I want to keep it, so we are ideologically opposed in our political philosophy and ideals
>>82765326
>Keeps repeatedly admitting he attacked the guy for noticing the ads and mentioning them while also furiously insisting that isn't what happened
This is genuinely hilarious.
Anonymous No.82765397
>>82765227
>You just said they sorted them when they were alive, so unless they decided to, for some reason, play mix and match with the bodies and move them to different areas to mix them in different graves then it's the logical conclusion.
It isn't the logical conclusion at all.
What makes you conclude that sorting for labor purposes would also translate in sorting for burrials? It makes much more sense that, discarded subhumans, as described by the regime itself, would all go into the same disposal system.
Even when sorting trash, you do so with the purpose of doing something with said sorting, meaning different destinations for the remains.
The remains of the dead in concentration camps all would have the same destinations. As nothing further would be done with said remains.

Your kind always does this. You use "you own logic" to derive conclusions and play on the authority of logic itself and the natural propensity to use it. Framing it as "I'm just asking natural questions, or drawing natural conclusions". But your logic fucking sucks, your assumptions are faulty and your reasoning is completely irrational. In other words, you pass off falsehoods as "logic" mudding the waters of the entire argument. That is why it's "pseudoscience" because it's lies and faulty reasoning hidden behind the appearance of actual logic.
You are repulsive.
Anonymous No.82765400
>>82765212
The camps were not industries of death only. They were industries of history erasure.
The nazis could have killed on the spot, like communists did later. But Hitler was not only a genocidal maniac, he had a vision for after the war. He had a plan to write history according to his whim.
Notice how you are dying on the spot of demanding concrete evidence of genocide. Where are the mass graves?
That's exactly what Hitler intended. No bodies. No genocide. The camps were designed to erase the nazi crimes from the pages of history. They would only be remembered as heroes.
Just like Barbarossa, hitler greatly overestimated his power and his logistics. The camps couldn't erase every piece of evidence, but they did enough obfuscation to guarantee that uneducated teenagers 80 years later would still buy nazi propaganda.
Anonymous No.82765425 >>82765505
>>82765380
>This is genuinely hilarious
The funny part is that you can't tell the difference.
I have already pointed it out to you several times, so now it's obvious malice.
Proof of your bad faith is amply available in this very thread, and you, like a sniveling rat, refuse to admit it outright.
Proof is right there. You can't make your point without adding to or twisting my words. You have done so in every single greentext quote. It is right there, for everyone to see. Your dishonesty.
Anonymous No.82765430 >>82765474 >>82765505
>>82765380
>The enemy wants my land, and I want to keep it, so we are ideologically opposed
You are omitting the part where the enemy called the people inhabiting that land "subhuman"
And had a whole concept called lebensraum to justify taking that land from you.
Anonymous No.82765437
>>82763007 (OP)
Liberals are easier to get along with as literal Nazi as long as you don't advertise it. Very huWhite community oriented people. The gay and cringe lib ideology aside, it's very wholesome. You can even point out how Israel controls the US to them and they'll agree. Conservatards on the other hand are completely insufferable.
Anonymous No.82765442 >>82765505
>>82765380
>>The enemy wants my land, and I want to keep it, so we are ideologically opposed in our political philosophy and ideals
This has been true for most wars in history. You saying it like it's an absurd take betrays your own ignorance
Anonymous No.82765446 >>82765552 >>82765579 >>82765607 >>82765622 >>82765741
>>82765286
>Your implication is that none of the mass graves found are pertaining to jews
Not at all what I said, my point was that they didn't kill any of those groups in the numbers that are reported because it's physical impossible to have achieved even by itself, let alone in the middle of a war, I mentioned jews specifically because their claim is the most egregious and has the least evidence despite being the most touted. There are actual mass graves with Polish peopIe that you can independently view and we dug up to verify, same with the handicapped, same with Romani, but every single time they've claimed it was one with a lot of jews it's immediately illegal and immoral to independently look into. Regardless, even with the real mass graves, there's no proof it was a coordinated, systematic genocide any more than there is for it being mass starvation and disease of prisoners in camps that couldn't support them due to the war. If they wanted a genocide they would've shot them as they found them, not did this insane song and dance of train schedules and thousands of guard personnel, weapons, food, water, gas, etc. that could be utilized elsewhere.
Anonymous No.82765465 >>82765678
>>82765321
>Because you don't actually want to know about what I think they did wrong
What do you think they did wrong, morally and ethically speaking, not strategically?
Anonymous No.82765474 >>82765509
>>82765430
He is deliberately omitting the part where the very reason for their claim to that land was that of racial entitlement. Germans were superior, and thus had a righteous claim to the land, as the resources should go to the superior race to ensure their survival. Without that very claim, the entire justification for their invasion is rendered null.
It was so central to their invasion, in fact, that they had to stage a violent attack against Germans living in Poland in order to give the order to invade as "retaliation" and "racial solodarity".
This is literally expressed in the first pages of Mein Kampf, btw.
Anonymous No.82765483 >>82765710
>>82765321
>you just want to pin a massive, physically impossible, comically evil crime onto them and say it was all part of the master plan to sabotage themselves
This right here is their comically evil crime, the one that sabotaged them in the end. Not genociding minorities. Their greatest evil was plunging their countryman into a war without any possibility of victory.
You are so worried about jews, you are forgetting that even if you take jews from the equation, Nazis are still pretty evil and indefensible.
Anonymous No.82765505 >>82765518 >>82765532 >>82765543 >>82765569 >>82765635
>>82765425
>If I repeat myself I win
Again, you already admitted it so why are you still responding to me?
>>82765430
Do you actually think they would have fought any more or less if Hitler said they were pretty cool dudes but it was l unfortunate but necessary to take their land? Being called subhuman had nothing to do with it, it was the fact they were being invaded.
>>82765442
>He thinks people being shot at are thinking about the political ramifications of the war and how much they don't like the other guy's ideas
No, it hasn't, what the fuck are you even talking about? Do you think people fought in Vietnam because they didn't like communism? Do you think people died in Verdun because they really had strong gripes with the Kaiser? Nations fight for ideology and resources, individuals fight because they're told to.
Anonymous No.82765509
>>82765474
Yes I know, he's very intellectually dishonest and is just leaving out all the parts of nazi history that could show us how twisted they were, even the parts that nazis themselves aren't afraid of admitting.
Notice the closest he got in this thread to criticizing nazis, was saying
>They did evil things
But he doesn't dare say they were evil
Anonymous No.82765518 >>82765736
>>82765505
>Do you actually think they would have fought any more or less if Hitler said they were pretty cool dudes
Hitler calling them subhumans doesn't count as ideological opposition?
Anonymous No.82765530
>>82763066
10/10 bait
people are actually like this
Anonymous No.82765532 >>82765760
>>82765505
>Nations fight for ideology and resources, individuals fight because they're told to.
And people are told to fight by nations, making the ideological stance indirectly relevant to the fight
Anonymous No.82765543
>>82765505
>Being called subhuman had nothing to do with it
Being thought of as subhuman is the reason why Hitler took the violent course instead of trying for annexation like he did with the other former holy Roman empire territories.
He didn't want Slavs being part of Europa. That's ideologically driven.
Anonymous No.82765552 >>82765689 >>82765782
>>82765446
>physical impossible to have achieved even by itself,
Not at all.
The very patented model of the crematoria and gas chambers, available to look up for yourself in the patent registry, guarantees a number above 4,000 bodies process per day, these being numbers given after actual testing, and reported by the Germans themselves. This makes the estimates of cremated bodies more than possible.

Now, the claim of the numbers of people killed in these events AT NO POINT referred to the number of people gassed, killed in concentration camps or cremated, by itself. It is an estimate of the total number of victims that perish as a direct consequence of the actions of the regime, and their mass murder policies. If you take this obvios fact into account, that there were multiple causes of death, like shootings, starvation, disease, etc., the numbers are more than just plausible.
Nazi internal communication documents give numbers of over 1 million executed in various ways in the early 40s. Ofc, these only represent the fraction that is relevant to the context of those particular communications, the overall number is greater.

Once again, we see the use of this faulty logic, deliberate lying and retarded tactics.
You will, ofc, avoid directly addressing these points, as you are literally incapable of doing so.
Anonymous No.82765569 >>82765796
>>82765505
>Again, you already admitted it so why are you still responding to me?
Because you are still lying. And because you still haven't seen that you are wrong.
Anonymous No.82765579
>>82765446
>my point was that they didn't kill any of those groups in the numbers that are reported because it's physical impossible
Not really. The Turkish empire genocided 2 million Armenians in 5 years.
The Hutus in Rwanda genocided 800.000 tutsis in just a 100 days
History is littered with genocides of equal scale of those in ww2. Many regimes showed us it was possible.
You are just trying to defend nazis, that's all that is happening here.
Anonymous No.82765607 >>82765676
>>82765446
>even with the real mass graves, there's no proof it was a coordinated, systematic genocide any more than there is for it being mass starvation and disease of prisoners in camps that couldn't support them due to the war
Anon, locking people up and letting them starve to death is a dictator favourite method of genocide. Communists killed millions like this. Prison camps were eating less than 600 calories a day. You can't survive long like that.
It's a travesty against history that you claim the exceptionally coordinated military that achieved blitzkrieg and took Europe in two years was not responsible for this.
You are spitting in the victims' grave
Anonymous No.82765622
>>82765446
>If they wanted a genocide they would've shot them as they found them
As I explained it, they wanted more than just genocide (which they succeeded in commiting by the way).
They wanted to erase the evidence of genocide. Which is why 80 years later you are still defending their crimes.
Anonymous No.82765635 >>82765810
>>82765505
>Do you actually think they would have fought any more or less if Hitler said they were pretty cool dudes but it was l unfortunate but necessary to take their land?
They would have fought less if the Nazi racial autism hadn't taken over the original Italian fascism movement, which btw, had the support of many jews. It emphasized culture, historical values, nationalistic views and was perfectly capable of supressing communism, just like it did in Spain, although it also took a different form in that place.
The point is that if Germany was united as one without the retarded invasion of foreign lands, while still rejecting the imperialistic tendencies of these retards, it would have been much better for everyone. They could have formed an alliance with Italy, Spain, even the UK, if they focused their efforts against communism, instead, they spergged out and made an enemy out of everyone.
Anonymous No.82765654
Liberals can never debate this.
Anonymous No.82765676
>>82765607
They literally detailed the exact same plan for slavs in western Russia. They wanted to take over Stalingrad nd deport all slavs to Siberia and kill them in the same manner, forced labor and starvation. It's not like this was somehow a special method. The gas chambers were special, as they were devised at the explicit request of Heinrich Himmler himself, he was too shocked after witnessing the shooting of a group of jews, some of the blood of the victims getting on himself, after this event, Himmler explicitly ordered the development of a more effective and less "shocking" method of execution.
Anonymous No.82765678 >>82765733 >>82766117 >>82766158 >>82766238
>>82765465
Lebensraum, for one, I think attacking the Soviets was pure paranoia and I think Slavs are white enough to not really be a problem even by Hitler's standards he was just holding a grudge about WWI, Hitler had a fucked up purity spiral going on which spooked him into a pointless attack. Even with a jewish controlled Soviet Union they couldn't just tell Slavs to go attack Germany out of nowhere, they simply didn't have that drive amongst the people for resources, influence, or even ideological opposition, as I truly doubt the average Slav even knew what Hitler thought about them let alone cared about it enough to be willing to fight over it without being provoked first. If Hitler waited they probably would've gotten ousted even quicker than they did in reality. The camps idea was retarded in the same way the idea of a systematic genocide would've been; They wasted time and resources just to get a ton of people unnecessarily killed when everything fell apart. If getting rid of people was absolutely necessary then wait until you're not in a god damn war and emigrant them elsewhere like they attempted at the start, the second the war started they should've dropped the camps and any idea of purging undesirables out of Germany completely. The moral issue with them is that they wanted to do everything too quickly without respect for orders of consequences which ended up causing suffering, there was no consideration given for what could happen to the people they imprisoned because Hitler was a self-righteous idealist when it came to his own plans and couldn't fathom the idea that they'd backfire or fail, and then when that inevitably happened he only doubled down which got more people killed. Hitler went from
>Hold them until we can throw them out
To
>If he dies, he dies
Which is unironically just immoral ego as he could've, at any time, given up on that and shut down the camps.
Anonymous No.82765689
>>82765552
Let me just thank you for sharing your historical knowledge with us.
Knowledge is the only known antidote for ignorance
Anonymous No.82765710 >>82765930 >>82765979
>>82765483
That wasn't ideology, attacking the Soviets was Hitler's paranoia that he then tried to retroactively justify with ideology. If your idea of evil is bad decision leading to god awful consequences for both the homeland and your enemy then, again, bomb the world into the stone age because we're all guilty. Vietnam being another example, the current conflict in Ukraine despite being smaller scale, every god forsaken oil war with those poor bastards in the middle east, etc.
Anonymous No.82765733
>>82765678
>Even with a jewish controlled Soviet Union
This is also lne of the most retarded fucking lies about WW2.
Yes, Lenin and Trotsky were jews. Lenin, btw, would have been eligible for Reich citizenship under the Nuremberg laws, as he was knly 1/4th jewish, but nvm that GLARING contradiction.
By the time Hitler took power and the war actually started, Stalin was in ckntrol of the Soviet Union. Stalin, a fucking career criminal who made a name for himself by violent raids and grand robberies. Stalin, who had advised Lenin's sister to NOT disclose their jewish heritage in fear of bad optics. Stalin, who later on developed a plan to kick out all jews from the Soviet Union. Stalin, who marginalized jews in the Soviet Union and restricted their access to education and employment.
The one thing that both Hitler and Stalin had in common was their hatred for jews. Oh, and ofc, using jewish funds to fund their bullshit.
Anonymous No.82765736 >>82765763 >>82765804
>>82765518
They didn't fight Hitler because he called them subhumans, even if he said Slavs were the real master race but he needed their land they'd have fought him. Even if he didn't have an opinion on Slavs one way or the other but he needed their land they'd have fought him. Him yhinking they're subhuman would have as much bearing on the war as him thinking their flag looked gay or that vodka was a terrible type of alcohol. Some Siberian peasant doesn't give a shit if some guy thinks he's a dog, he cares because that guy is currently attacking him.
Anonymous No.82765741
>>82765446
>my point was that they didn't kill any of those groups in the numbers that are reported
I fear that, more than searching for the true number of victims, your point is to make excuses and justifications for nazism and assuage their blame in all of this.
You have, twice in this very thread, hinted that the casualties weren't actually the fault of Nazi chain of command, but something that went wrong along the way.
You may not admit it, but this is nazi apologetics at its finest. You are simply blaming someone else for insurmountable loss of life that comes with nazism.
Anonymous No.82765760 >>82765779
>>82765532
No, his point was that everyone is ideologically opposed to it, and justifies it by saying they fought against them. They fought because Germany invaded them, not because they didn't like Germany's economic stance or that Hitler thought Slavs were subhuman. It wouldn't matter if an exact ideological copy of your nation attacks you, you'd still fight them because they're attacking you.
Anonymous No.82765763 >>82765809 >>82765907
>>82765736
The ideological opposition is still there, anon, if you say it isn't the true motivation of the war. You still have an army being ordered by a man claiming his enemies are less than human.
I know what you hope to accomplish with this: paint a picture where Slavs and Germanics are more alike than different
But Hitler would smack you in the face for implying that.
Anonymous No.82765779 >>82765846 >>82765877
>>82765760
German invading all neighbors except for Sweden is an integral part of their ideology, so it is pretty much connected.
The world opposed Hitler because Hitler fought against the world, but Hitler did so inspired by nazi ideology. You're arguing semantics
Anonymous No.82765782 >>82765831 >>82765835
>>82765552
>We decided after the fact that this is definitely possible
>Regardless it's still illegal to check
Oh okay so there's a document that says it's possible, okay yeah that totally makes up for it being physically impossible in reality.
Anonymous No.82765796
>>82765569
>Admitted it three times
>Actually you're wrong
Anonymous No.82765804 >>82765877
>>82765736
>Him yhinking they're subhuman would have as much bearing on the war as him thinking their flag looked gay or that vodka was a terrible type of alcohol
An ignorant take. Almost juvenile.
There's a reason why Hitler campaign on Easter Europe was brutal, but his campaign on Denmark, Norway and Sweden was mild in comparison.
His ideology was fundamental, and it opposed Slavs nearly as much as jews.
Anonymous No.82765809 >>82765874 >>82765918
>>82765763
These "neo-nazis" complain about today's mass immigration from 3rd world countries (which is a bad thing, I don't like mass immigration), and equate it to the same complaints Hitler had about the degradation of German culture.
But they fail to add that, Hitler's problem was not about 3rd world immigration, but European, White immigration and mixing. He was against the pan-european model of the "White Pride" model, he want a greater Germanic Reich.
Anonymous No.82765810
>>82765635
>They would have fought less if the Nazi racial autism hadn't taken over the original Italian fascism movement
No one is going to care about how good your ideas are when you shove a gun in their face. You're talking about an entirely separate scenario where Germany never invaded in the first place, We're talking about after Lebensraum had already begun.
Anonymous No.82765831 >>82765952
>>82765782
Nazi's themselves reported their mass killing success in the first years of the war, 1942 being the deadliest year.
It's like you are doubting the evidence presented by enemies of the reich as much as the Reich's own self admitted evidence, which puts you closer to a position of denialism similar to flat earthers.
Anonymous No.82765835 >>82765952
>>82765782
>Oh okay so there's a document that says it's possible, okay yeah that totally makes up for it being physically impossible in reality.
The patent is from 1942. It was not "after the fact". It was very much a testament to their current capacities.
And, as I said, you ignored all the other points, like good little rat.
Anonymous No.82765846
>>82765779
Except for Switzerland my bad
Anonymous No.82765874
>>82765809
True. Hitler racism was so advanced that he believed in a meta hierarchy dividing people that the modern audience would consider undoubtedly white.
Just being white wasn't good enough. You had to have those nordic "Germanic" genes going on, and nothing of that Anglo-Saxon viking bullshit, he wanted real northern Europeans only, the purest of all whites.
It's such a self devouring ouroboros how much you wanna bet the nazi sympathizer in this thread doesn't make the cut?
Anonymous No.82765877
>>82765779
Again, that is the parties ideology, not the grunts on the ground. Slavs didn't care that Hitler thought they were subhuman, they cared that he opted to attack them.
>>82765804
I never said Hitler's actions weren't ideologically motivated, I'm talking about the soldiers on the ground, of course he did the retarded shit he did because of ideology he was literally the leader fighting entirely for ideology. I'm saying the grunts who actually face the gunfire don't give a shit, even if Hitler didn't have an opinion on them the second he pointed a gun their way they were enemies.
Anonymous No.82765907
>>82765763
>you say it isn't the true motivation of the war.
Where the fuck is this coming from? I said that the average soldier doesn't give a shit about the ideology of the people involved and it somehow turned into people claiming I think Hitler wasn't ideologically motivated.
Anonymous No.82765910
Leftists are losers.
>inb4 muh csa and nazis
Anonymous No.82765911
>>82763007 (OP)
So he turned trans?
Anonymous No.82765918 >>82765945 >>82765949
>>82765809
I haven't said a single thing about modern immigration in my entire time in this thread.
Anonymous No.82765930 >>82766003
>>82765710
>That wasn't ideology
My dear nazi sympathizer, lebensraum was perhaps the second most important aspect of nazi ideology, a dream of Hitler since adolescence.
He didn't "retroactively" justify invading the Soviet union: that invasion was his plan from the very beginning of his political campaign. It is one of the 3 bedrocks of his ideology: white pride, fight the juden, expansion to the east.
When you say something like that, you sound so insurmountably ignorant about Hitler, ww2 and nazism that everything you said so far loses significance before such a obtuse statement.
Anonymous No.82765945 >>82766003
>>82765918
Yeah but you did say a lot of historically ignorant and incorrect things about the third reich, while trying to paint them in a more favourable light.
We won't do the digging, but you are (spiritually) an adolescent defending hitler online. If we digged further into your personality, what else would we find? Flowers and unicorns? Love for minorities?
Anonymous No.82765949
>>82765918
Then I wasn't addressing you... pretty obvious.
Anonymous No.82765952 >>82765996 >>82766007 >>82766418
>>82765831
>>82765835
>Paper documents and reports make up for physical impossibility
>I have a paper that says this physically impossible thing happened therefore HA!
Isn't it really convenient yhey found all these papers that exactly go along with the narrative written? It wasn't enough to waste all the resources this already would've wasted but the Germans also made a cute literal diary called
>All the evil shit I did - By Adolf
Wasting days on bureaucracy for no discernible gain except for making sure everyone is absolutely positive they're le bad.
Anonymous No.82765957
Leftists love Jews, browns, and hate whites because it's easier to love and then lie about hating when the right admits to hate.
Anonymous No.82765979 >>82766074
>>82765710
You are missing the point where lebensraum is their worst crime and enough of a reason to make you stop defending them, even without all the millions of minorities genocided.
Lebensraum cost 4,5 million German soldiers lives, a genocide in itself, and it was all for nothing.
Anonymous No.82765996 >>82766074
>>82765952
When they found no evidence, you use that as an affirmative claim of nazi innocence.
When they do find some evidence, you discredit it without much thought
Flat earther levels of argumentation
Anonymous No.82766003 >>82766027 >>82766058
>>82765930
Yes, the plan was eastward expansion, the plan was not a random blitzkrieg in the middle of a war forcing Germany into a two-front unwinnable war that killed millions more which is what you were talking about. Of course he was going to eventually do it anyways but it would've been a slower process of removal rather than bloody war, he literally has a book talking about it how the fuck did you get the impression I was saying it would never happen?
>>82765945
>Shame! Shame! Shame!
Maybe try calling me underaged for the 50th time, it'll work eventually.
Anonymous No.82766007 >>82766033 >>82766074
>>82765952
To be absolutely positive nazis are bad you just have to look at their military campaign.
It takes monumental levels of cognitive dissonance to say they were anything short of evil. They brought up the destruction of Germany itself
Anonymous No.82766027 >>82766033 >>82766091
>>82766003
But anon, be honest with us for a second, when you defend Hitler online and have inaccurate shallow knowledge of WW2, what's the most likely scenario? That you are an adult?
God forbid you be an adult still caught up in your nazi fanboy phase. That would be terrible. You have so much growing up to do.
Anonymous No.82766033
>>82766007
>To be absolutely positive nazis are bad you just have to look at their military campaign.
It takes monumental levels of cognitive dissonance to say they were anything short of evil. They brought up the destruction of Germany itself
>this is how liberals think
>>82766027
>But anon, be honest with us for a second, when you defend Hitler online and have inaccurate shallow knowledge of WW2, what's the most likely scenario? That you are an adult?
>God forbid you be an adult still caught up in your nazi fanboy phase. That would be terrible. You have so much growing up to do.
You love Judaism.
Anonymous No.82766058 >>82766125
>>82766003
>the plan was eastward expansion
So you were wrong back there? Just clarifying.
The plan was Hitler being a competent military leader, not a megalomaniac power hungry dictator who got carried away by France's debacle. The plan, obviously, failed. It failed hard.
Germany made enemies of the entire world, and few allies. They played the game with a bad strategy that was doomed to fail from day one. Blitzkrieg gives you instantaneous power, but not the means to hold that power significantly
It baffles me that all these years later, you are still defending such a dead cause
Anonymous No.82766074
>>82765979
I'm pretty sure I said that Lebensraum was a terrible idea that lead to unnecessary death and suffering for everyone involved which was as bad morally as it was strategically. I agree it was a retarded idea in principle, even worse in the context they decided to do it which was essentially a sperg out.
>>82765996
>Found no evidence
But that's never the claim, there's either unverifiable evidence like papers that literally could've come from anywhere or 'evidence' that is illegal to independently examine like the mass graves. I can't actually think of a single claim people make about the them that doesn't have any 'evidence', rather literally nothing concrete or trustworthy. Like I said you give me 5 minutes and the tools to scan these mass graves I'll eat my hat and concede, but as that would lead to prison I can't do that.
>>82766007
Then again again, if being incompetent grabby retards is evil then bomb is into the stone age. It's the current year and people are still making the same mistakes just on smaller scales
Anonymous No.82766091 >>82766126
>>82766027
>SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
Lmfao you talk like how I imagine a modern middle school bully would try to talk, pure passive aggressive and smug condescension without actually saying anything.
Anonymous No.82766117 >>82766145 >>82766241
>>82765678
>The camps idea was retarded in the same way the idea of a systematic genocide would've been; They wasted time and resources just to get a ton of people unnecessarily killed when everything fell apart. If getting rid of people was absolutely necessary then wait until you're not in a god damn war and emigrant them elsewhere like they attempted at the start, the second the war started they should've dropped the camps and any idea of purging undesirables out of Germany completely
That would take a competent and reasonable leader
But a competent and reasonable leader wouldn't drag their country to war, and wouldn't persecute politically irrelevant minorities, and wouldn't do all the things that Hitler did before and during the war.
It would be a completely different reality
Anonymous No.82766125 >>82766181
>>82766058
I never said it was never going to happen, you said that the Lebensraum was evil because it resulted in the deaths of so many, which I'm saying was due to incompetence and timing. Had it happened at any other time in any other circumstance the casualties would be lower and the grander effects would be lesser, it would've been a typical European war from resources rather than a slog of millions that went down in history as a fuckup.
Anonymous No.82766126 >>82766145 >>82766149
>>82766091
I love your implication that the defense of nazism shouldn't warrant shame, which further implies your young age.
Anonymous No.82766145 >>82766200
>>82766117
>>82766126
So why do you hate White people? Don't deny it, are you either 1. brown, 2. jewish, 3. a woman, or 4. a retarded white
Anonymous No.82766149
>>82766126
That isn't at all what I said you deranged pseudo-intellectual; I'm just laughing at you because shaming isn't a substitute for an argument, you're not making a point because you don't have one, you can only try to shame people until they stop talking.
Anonymous No.82766158 >>82766269
>>82765678
>The moral issue with them is that they wanted to do everything too quickly
That's the main problem with your line of thinking
It's like you don't necessarily oppose the idea of genociding undesirables. You just disagree with the impracticality of it.
And that's a key moral stance that comes before everything. If we disagree on that moral stance, there's nothing we will agree with regarding ww2 and nazism.
Anonymous No.82766181 >>82766190 >>82766315
>>82766125
>you said that the Lebensraum was evil because it resulted in the deaths of so many, which I'm saying was due to incompetence and timing
That's a very fundamental disagreement. It shows two completely different worldviews.
In my view, lebensraum is wrong because "taking vital space from neighbors" is an euphemism for war which will only bring death and destruction.
In your view, apparently, lebensraum can be justified if done competently (?) meaning you are okay with the loss of life it brings, if it brings even greater rewards.
This is a typical "ends justify the means" machiavellianism and it's probably why you feel inclined to defend hitler in the first place
Anonymous No.82766190 >>82766223
>>82766181
You are a master at using logical fallacies.
Anonymous No.82766200 >>82766206
>>82766145
I don't. For a white supremacists, it's inconceivable to think of a white man who doesn't feel superior to others.
It's typical oppression discourse. For the oppressor, equality feels like a net loss
Anonymous No.82766206 >>82766253
>>82766200
Ok so you're a retarded white got it. Many such cases.
Anonymous No.82766223 >>82766235
>>82766190
You should expand that into an actual argument.
Your whole game is downplaying the evilness of nazi ideology. Lebensraum, its second worse tenant, become only a "slower process of removal" and "just like other european wars". It's just assuaging their maniacal intentions that were present from day one
Anonymous No.82766235 >>82766348
>>82766223
>maniacal intentions
Genuinely tell me what intentions of theirs were "maniacal". They wanted to deport Jews and save white people from the world that we're in today, that's it.
Anonymous No.82766238 >>82766358
>>82765678
>there was no consideration given for what could happen to the people they imprisoned
This is how you do nazi apologetics.
Once more, you paint this picture where these concentration camp casualties were a tragic accident of mismanagement
But in fact, they were intentional. Hitler did consider what would happen to these prisoners, he considered it a lot, he had being dreaming of it ever since he was a teenager like you.
He wanted them gone. Their deaths were no accident or incompetent management. They were the goal all along
Anonymous No.82766241 >>82766268 >>82766285 >>82766296
>>82766117
>a competent and reasonable leader wouldn't drag their country to war
Alright already off to a bad start, 'war is always bad' is a meaningless sentiment when we live on a world with finite resources and time.
>wouldn't persecute politically irrelevant minorities
You can just say they're irrelevant, just as they said they're relevant. I think you're getting the impression that I approve of him in a purely political and analytical lens, but I don't even give him that. Anyone else taking over would've been preferable, and I believe the rise of Nazism in Germany was inevitable even without Hitler, but it would've been more objective focused rather than goal focused, being goal focused is what made them spaz the fuck out on everyone. Getting people you don't like out of your country is fine, but you do it by giving them some cash and a plane ticket to fuckoffistan; You don't hold them in camps were you have to feed, cloth, guard, etc. everyone because even if you don't oppose it on moral grounds you just make enemies.
Anonymous No.82766253
>>82766206
Mate, you're defending the nazis. Who's retarded here? You will keep alienating yourself from real life because of these god awful opinions and you know what? That's good.
It's good we have built a world where nazis take the silent route. It's the world as it should be.
Anonymous No.82766255
>>82763007 (OP)
Liberalism a way of filtering retards, kind of like ideological eugenics, elitism, which is ultimately what Nazism is about. It's an esoteric thing.
Anonymous No.82766268
>>82766241
>war is always bad' is a meaningless sentiment
Yeah war worked out so well for nazi Germany.
Wars are good for the weapon industry and other war profiting oligarchs. For you and I, they mean only destruction.
Anonymous No.82766269
>>82766158
>genociding undesirables
You don't have to kill them, literally just send them away to anywhere with a chuck of change and we'll wishes. If I was in a country as a minority and the locals told me to fuck off I would, I wouldn't like it but I would. This is why I don't particularly care for what happens to whites in African nations because my only thought is why the fuck are they their. I understand being uprooted is bad for the individual, but if it leads to a more stable society for the host population then it's a worthy sacrifice. The killing is unnecessary, wasteful, antagonistic, and only causes more issues than you could ever possibly 'solve'.
Anonymous No.82766285 >>82766358
>>82766241
>You can just say they're irrelevant, just as they said they're relevant
The gypsies, homos, Jehovah's witnesses and citizens they persecuted were pretty much irrelevant for the war effort and elimination had a cost without any actual gain.
It's a hint of how nazi ideology had twisted priorities.
Anonymous No.82766296 >>82766358
>>82766241
You can say you're not pro Hitler all you want, you have been in a thread for hours arguing only with apologetical arguments that paint nazis as something less than evil. You attribute their atrocities to disobeying soldiers, mismanaged resources, and inconsequential plans, as if the atrocity itself wasn't the end goal.
Anonymous No.82766315 >>82766362 >>82766379
>>82766181
Yes, war can be beneficial. Is it the best choice? No. Is it the first choice? No. Is it a choice? Yes. Lebensraum as Hitler intended, a small regional war, wouldn't be this horrid evil that we still talk about to this day, it would've been one of many forgotten European conflicts that is only mentioned when UN representatives from those respective countries bitch at each other for during particularly heated debates. Instead it went to total war that fucked the people of both sides.
Anonymous No.82766348 >>82766369
>>82766235
>Genuinely tell me what intentions of theirs were "maniacal".
They thought they could, without facing consequences:
>take 40% of the Soviet union in 3 weeks and flank Moscow in the middle of winter.
> rounding up and genociding multiple minorities
>Invade over 20 countries including all your neighbors and the neighbors of your neighbors except for Switzerland
>Greenlight human experimentation in prison camps
Anonymous No.82766358 >>82766416 >>82766436
>>82766238
>See so instead of shooting them as we find them what we're gonna do is put them on trains to these camps we're gonna build where we're gonna feed and cloth them and we'll have to guard them 24/7 and we'll also transfer them between death camps because we really care about making sure they die in a very scheduled manner because something something Germans really like bureaucracy
Sure
>>82766285
Again, you can say that, and they would've said the opposite.
>>82766296
The difference here is that you oppose him on moral grounds, I oppose him on strategic grounds. We dislike him for separate reasons.
Anonymous No.82766362 >>82766426
>>82766315
>war can be beneficial
For the top dogs at most. Never for the common folk. Never for the soldiers. Never for the nation as a whole. Nations always lose wars. Individuals gain from it, but very few.
Your machiavellianism is why you found yourself defending nazism here
Anonymous No.82766369 >>82766391 >>82766399
>>82766348
>take 40% of the Soviet union in 3 weeks and flank Moscow in the middle of winter.
Not maniacal, just an error, happens all the time on all scales.
>rounding up and genociding multiple minorities
They didn't do this though, they rounded up Jews because they were invaders leeching off of Germany, and they didn't exterminate them, that's a lie.
>Invade over 20 countries including all your neighbors and the neighbors of your neighbors except for Switzerland
Needed to save them from evil Jews. And + I live in America so they're not my neighbors.
Anonymous No.82766379
>>82766315
Hitler's original intentions with lebensraum were neither small nor regional.
You are assuaging the gravity of his intentions like an apologist would.
His plan was taking over nearly an entire continent.
Anonymous No.82766391 >>82766439
>>82766369
>Not maniacal, just an error
>Costed 4 million German soldiers and 11 million soviet soldiers
You calling this monumental act of maniacal greed "just an error" is also maniacal in itself
Anonymous No.82766399 >>82766439 >>82766504
>>82766369
>They didn't do this though
They did round up several minority groups not limited to jews, a fact that you admitted earlier. The casualties are in the millions of people perishing in camps even not counting jews.
Anonymous No.82766416 >>82766504
>>82766358
>So instead of openly genociding these people we will attempt to erase the evidence of our crime and rewrite history
>Fast forward 80 years
>Random adolescent on 4chan: "where are the mass graves?"
We are lucky they tried to erase history. They didn't succeed.
Anonymous No.82766418 >>82766504
>>82765952
These are levels of cope that defy all reason.
This is the equivalent to claiming something like
>isn't it STRANGE that paleontologists find "dinosaur bones"?
>isn't it WEIRD that their entire professional field is based on something they found on the ground, after it happened?
>isn't it ODD how, the dinosaur theory perfectly fits the claims of the paleontologists?
Very suspicious, indeed. It must be a conspiracy made up by "science" to prop up the fake "paleontologist industry" and movies like Jurasic Park.
Anonymous No.82766426 >>82766458
>>82766362
Okay, can you pick a struggle? Every other post we're switching between talking about the entire country versus talking about individual soldiers, I was speaking about the country there, of course war is not good for the person fighting it and I'd never want to find myself on either end of a gun with another person, but on a purely objective level war can benefit a country.
Anonymous No.82766436 >>82766545
>>82766358
>Again, you can say that, and they would've said the opposite
And what would you say, anon? Would you side with them and claim these minorities were relevant as in not persecuting them would have thwarted the nazi war efforts?
Anonymous No.82766439 >>82766476 >>82766501
>>82766391
Maybe don't be communist then?
>>82766399
>They did round up several minority groups not limited to jews, a fact that you admitted earlier. The casualties are in the millions of people perishing in camps even not counting jews.
Millions more germans died. This isn't even a valid point, the only difference is they died in camps and germans died in their homes
Anonymous No.82766458
>>82766426
>Every other post we're switching between talking about the entire country versus talking about individual soldiers
Lol that's not what I've been saying at all. I'm saying war is bad for the country.
You on the other hand, is claiming war can be profitable but for whom?
Reminder, this is in the same post you defend that Hitler's original plan for lebensraum was "small and regional conflict", an outright lie not at all compatible with his plans prior to the war. He literally dreamed of taking Moscow back in 1936.
Anonymous No.82766476 >>82766510
>>82766439
Have you tried not been a nazi? Whatever you say, you can't claim it has helped your struggles.
Anonymous No.82766487 >>82766510
holy shit the neo nazi cope in this thread lmao imagine being so stupid you get tricked by old propaganda by a bunch of drug addicted maniacs they would laugh at you when you claim they were "pro white" they only cared about germans
Anonymous No.82766501 >>82766510
>>82766439
>germans died in their homes
German citizen casualties were 600.000.
That means most of the German blood spilled in that war, came from following Hitler's orders and marching into the Soviet union. Hitler managed to cause the death of more Germans than any other person in history.
Anonymous No.82766504 >>82766527 >>82766573 >>82766592 >>82766611
>>82766416
>They were preemptively trying to hide it as if they knew they were going to lose from the start
>They wanted to hide it so much that they kept a full record of every single casualty and then let those documents be discovered by allied forces without even attempting to hide them
Of course! Why did I never think about that, this is genius.
>>82766399
That is a different guy, not me.
>>82766418
I'm sorry, is it illegal to dig up dinosaur bones? Do you go to prison if you go to areas where they say that there's a bunch of dinosaur bones try to verify such claims? Do people call you an extinctionist anti-dinosaur if you dare imply that we should verify that these bones are dinosaur bones? I must have missed that. Also a better comparison would be if every time they found dinosaur bones it was a full skeleton completely put together with no imperfections or missing pieces. In which case, yeah, I'd probably find it strange.
Anonymous No.82766510 >>82766536 >>82766546
>>82766476
>bragging about genociding white people
>>82766487
they weren't perfect retard, but they had good ideas
>>82766501
youve forgotten about the rape
Anonymous No.82766527 >>82766612
>>82766504
>>They were preemptively trying to hide it as if they knew they were going to lose
Quite the opposite. They had faith in victory and that's precisely why they tried to cover the tracks of their wrongdoings, cleaning the pages of history so they wouldn't be known as we know Stalin and the Soviets today.
If they knew they were going to lose, they would have followed your advice and just killed every jew on the spot, letting the rivers of blood flow. The more the better.
That's what they did to prisoners once the red army approached Poland. Most camps were destroyed by german soldiers themselves, prisoners ordered to march till death
Anonymous No.82766536 >>82766550
>>82766510
Hitler single handedly caused the death of more white people than any other person in history
Anonymous No.82766545
>>82766436
I already gave my two cents; If you really care about it that much wait until after the war, give them a plane ticket, pat them on the back and tell them happy trails. Don't put them in camps where you have to take care of them and they'll inevitably die due to both poor planning and the WAR you're supposed to be fighting, and you sure as shit aren't supposed to kill them because now people are going to look at you like the subhuman savage and decide to take you out instead. Just pay people to leave, or arrest and deport with the money if they refuse, because the alternatives are so much worse for everyone involved.
Anonymous No.82766546 >>82766556
>>82766510
>they had good ideas
Their only good idea was carrying a cyanide pill with them at all times.
Anonymous No.82766550 >>82766648
>>82766536
>Hitler single handedly caused the death of more white people than any other person in history
Wrong, Jews did and their goyslaveloverfollowers like you.
Anonymous No.82766556
>>82766546
>Their only good idea was carrying a cyanide pill with them at all times.
I mean so what, anyone can shoot themselves
Anonymous No.82766571 >>82766580
>>82763007 (OP)
Same happened to me. I got radicalised by /pol/ as a teenager but luckily I "hid my power level" so I didn't fuck up any irl relationships.
I also got big into conspiracy theories over the covid period but after seeing none of them come true (no vaccine mass deaths, great reset nothingburger, lockdowns ended, 2020 being rigged was never proven in court) I stopped thinking about the world in simple terms. It took me a couple of more years to fully accept that everything else I had 'learned' about the world was bullshit and "The Experts" generally are right most of the time.

Now I'm a centre-left liberal.
Anonymous No.82766573 >>82766594 >>82766639
>>82766504
>is it illegal to dig up dinosaur bones
Yes, lmao. You are so fucking ignorant you don't even know that if you come across a big fossil and you call the authorities, paleontologists will block the public access to the digging site and completely take the place until the digging is complete, and only the research team from an actual university will be allowed in there and the police take fossil protection very seriously. There has been entire construction projects completely halted because a fossil was found and working had to be interrupted for months, there have been people arrested for trying to deface these fossils.
Which is exactly what you accuse "mass graveyard jews" of doing.
Anonymous No.82766580 >>82766601
>>82766571
>no vaccine mass deaths, great reset nothingburger, lockdowns ended, 2020 being rigged was never proven in court
those are all jewish psyops to discredit real conspiracies retard
>It took me a couple of more years to fully accept that everything else I had 'learned' about the world was bullshit and "The Experts" generally are right most of the time.
>Now I'm a centre-left liberal.
I'm just thinking you were too stupid in the first place to understand the world.
Anonymous No.82766592 >>82766612 >>82766638
>>82766504
>>They wanted to hide it so much that they kept a full record of every single casualty
They actually destroyed 99% of their records during the falling years, specially in late 44-45. What we have is merely a little speck of dust, the tip of the iceberg.
Ironically apologists like you use this as an argument, quoting absence of evidence.
But whenever you are presented with the scarce evidence the survived nazi record burning, you discredit it immediately and in an extreme show of ignorance, you claim that the evidence itself is a sign there was no genocide.
This is to show that you can't win with people who argue disingenuously
Anonymous No.82766594 >>82766610
>>82766573
>It's illegal to dig up dinosaur bones
>They will have people dig up the dinosaur bones
Holy shit and you called me ignorant in the same post, lmfao.
Anonymous No.82766601 >>82766607
>>82766580
>When one of my fake narratives get proven wrong, that's further evidence for all the other fake narratives being true
Delusional
Anonymous No.82766607
>>82766601
i didnt believe in any of those
Anonymous No.82766610 >>82766675
>>82766594
Just like they will have people dig up mass ww2 graves showing nazi war crimes. And I showed you multiple articles with extensive photo record of the digging operations.
Anonymous No.82766611 >>82766675
>>82766504
>I'm sorry, is it illegal to dig up dinosaur bones?
my God, you are so autistic.
No, it is not illegal to dig up dinosaur bones, but it is illegal to exhume bodies and dig up the graves of other people.
Studies have been conducted, btw.
>https://journals.openedition.org/temoigner/13399?lang=en
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1296207418300189?via%3Dihub
>https://academic.oup.com/manchester-scholarship-online/book/20698/chapter-abstract/180034685?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Btw, this still doesn't have anything to do with my claim, as I relied solely on German documents from the time period. It just so happens that you are wrong in both claims lmfao.
Anonymous No.82766612 >>82766621 >>82766631
>>82766527
>>82766592
>They wanted to hide it so much they kept a detailed record of it
Okay
Anonymous No.82766621 >>82766686
>>82766612
>Tried to burn it all as Germany collapsed
Yes
Anonymous No.82766631 >>82766686
>>82766612
Wait so you admit these records exist and are real? Isn't that admitting these exterminations happened and nazis weren't ashamed of writing it down?
Anonymous No.82766638
>>82766592
we even have a video of a firing squad executing a group of civilian, innocent jews. It was taken by a soldier somewhat by accident, as such content was strictly prohibited, but he was filming the entire landscape and what they were doing, when he happened to catch the execution. It is one of the only pieces of film evidence of the systematic murder of jews.
Anonymous No.82766639 >>82766663
>>82766573
>people arrested for trying to deface these fossils.
I missed this part, lmfao, you think geological scans to actually see if anythings there is comparable to intentional vandalism.
Anonymous No.82766648 >>82766667
>>82766550
Nazi propaganda is stale, anon. A man ordered 4 million Germans to march towards their doom in soviet Russia, and it wasn't a jew.
Anonymous No.82766663 >>82766710
>>82766639
>geological scans to actually see if anythings there
Why would you do that if you can just dig tons of bones up adding to 1000+ skeletal remains like it was done before in Belarus and Poland?
Who tried to do a geological scan and wasn't allowed?
Anonymous No.82766667 >>82766678
>>82766648
he wasnt perfect
Anonymous No.82766675 >>82766685 >>82766695 >>82766711 >>82766719 >>82766734
>>82766610
Photos of sites you cannot independently check today because it's illegal.
>>82766611
But why is it illegal to perform independent scans of the soil to see if there's anything down there? I don't care how many pre-approved research papers you have if you cannot independently check.
Anonymous No.82766678 >>82766688
>>82766667
Lmao such an innocent mistake, only causing 20 million deaths. No biggie.
Anonymous No.82766685 >>82766710
>>82766675
>Photos of sites you cannot independently check today
You literally can, though? You can check every bone they found, you can finance the expansion of the excavation and find even more bones. Who's saying you can't do that?
Anonymous No.82766686 >>82766705
>>82766621
>>82766631
>They wanted to hide it so much they kept a detailed record of it
Ok
Anonymous No.82766688
>>82766678
a drop of blood in comparison to what the jews did, are doing, and will do
Anonymous No.82766695
>>82766675
>But why is it illegal to perform independent scans of the soil to see if there's anything down there?
It's not. In fact you can dig it up, find more human remains, and make news.
That's the opposite of what you want though
Anonymous No.82766705 >>82766717
>>82766686
So you admit they did it without hiding
Anonymous No.82766710 >>82766741
>>82766663
>>82766685
Got it so now we're at the part where you just play pretend. You cannot independently examine these sites without pre-approval and oversight from the people that made the claims, even non-invasive measures like scans of the soil to find the outlines of bones are not allowed without them.
Anonymous No.82766711
>>82766675
What do you expect to find in a mass grave yard after it has been excavated and every skeletal remain found has been taken to the nearest museum archive?
Anonymous No.82766717 >>82766748 >>82766782
>>82766705
>They wanted to hide it
>So they kept a detailed record of it
Okay
Anonymous No.82766719 >>82766724
>>82766675
>pre-approved research papers
Some of those are independent though.
Seems like you will refuse any evidence unless it's you who go there personally and do the digging
Which you will never do.
So you're basically saying you will choose ignorance instead
Anonymous No.82766724
>>82766719
>Independent
Vetted and selected, you mean.
Anonymous No.82766734 >>82766770
>>82766675
>But why is it illegal to perform independent scans of the soil to see if there's anything down there? I don't care how many pre-approved research papers you have if you cannot independently check.
name a single graveyard where you can do this.
This has been done btw. Twince, the first time, it was ""done" by a lying retard who never published his results in a paper. The second time, by one of the authors I linked.
Anonymous No.82766741 >>82766770
>>82766710
>You cannot independently examine these sites without pre-approval and oversight
The same thing for fossil excavation sites? This "approval" is to make sure you won't destroy the place, which I fear would be your intention.
You can still do it though, you could file for permissions and expand on these excavations. You could scan the soil. What are you hoping to find? These sites have been excavated already.
You are saying you can't and that's illegal and all, based on what? You never trying researching mass graveyards from ww2.
Anonymous No.82766748 >>82766770
>>82766717
>They kept the record
>So they did it
Anonymous No.82766770 >>82766787 >>82766793 >>82766808 >>82766823 >>82766863
>>82766734
Every single graveyard on Earth that is open to the public because it does not require disturbing the soil or the graves at all to perform. Again, you can provide as many pre-approved sources as you like but the people who made the claims vet every single individual they allow. If you think they would let you or I do it you are retarded beyond comprehension.
>>82766741
>Uh we can't let you look at this soil because you might dig up the bones with your bare hands and destroy them because you're evil or something
>If you scan the soil the bones might disintegrate or something
Jesus Christ you're being serious.
>>82766748
>They wanted to hide it
>But they kept a detailed record of it
Okay
Anonymous No.82766775 >>82766857 >>82768428
>>82763108
Or maybe he got tired of child-rapist ideology.
Anonymous No.82766782 >>82766855
>>82766717
Do you think criminals don't keep records of their secret deals?
You know you gotta keep a record if you are a manager managing resources from and out of an industrial death camp? Doesn't mean anybody is meant to see that, which is why nazis spent years burning files.
Anonymous No.82766787 >>82766855
>>82766770
>Every single graveyard on Earth that is open to the public because it does not require disturbing the soil or the graves at all to perform
I said to name one that would let you conduct a study on it without their preapproval.
>I don't believe the evidence.
once again, twisting and lying.
The moon is also not real because you can't make independent missions that aren't pre-approved to fly over there.
Anonymous No.82766793 >>82766855
>>82766770
>Every single graveyard on Earth that is open to the public because it does not require disturbing the soil or the graves at all to perform.
You're talking about "soil scans" without knowing anything about it, but if you don't disturb the soil, then you can 100% do that to ww2 mass graves.
You never really tried it. You're saying it's illegal but what's your source?
Anonymous No.82766796 >>82766817
I think that insecurity is the root of 99% of nazism larping
Anonymous No.82766808 >>82766889
>>82766770
>Again, you can provide as many pre-approved sources as you like but the people who made the claims vet every single individual they allow
And when the group they approved of went there and did the digging and found the skeletons, what's your explanation for that?
Anonymous No.82766817 >>82766836 >>82767086
>>82766796
believing in some of the ideas of nazism doesn't mean you're claiming to be a full on national socialist retard, you're probably a communist, yet you don't go outside and shoot white people every do ya
Anonymous No.82766823 >>82766889
>>82766770
>>If you scan the soil
I love how you are insisting on that narrative that the jews in power won't let you scan ww2 mass graveyards.
Pushing fake news and misinformation is 100% on brand for the person defending nazism.
Anonymous No.82766836 >>82766844 >>82768443
>>82766817
you believe in their worst ideas, I don't see how you are morally any less bankrupt.
Anonymous No.82766844 >>82766874
>>82766836
>believing that white people shouldnt be genocided is as bad as genociding white people
this is what you believe
Anonymous No.82766855 >>82766885 >>82766905 >>82766963
>>82766782
>Keeping a ledger of your illegal funds, products, and employees is the exact same thing as keeping a detailed document of exactly who you executed and how you executed someone before throwing them into a big pit to be buried and never seen again
For what possible benefit?
>>82766787
Yeah, I'm not going to accept the evidence of the people who made the claim and people approved by those who made the claim who all have a vested interest in ensuring no one challenges that claim in any way.
>>82766793
>but if you don't disturb the soil, then you can 100% do that to ww2 mass graves.
>You never really tried it. You're saying it's illegal but what's your source?
The source is that they don't let people do it, only organizations that they approve of. There has never been a single independent scan of any of these sites without the person already having connections to the organization that oversees the site to begin with such as through a university.
Anonymous No.82766857 >>82768428
>>82766775
I remember I once joined a discussion among neo-nazis and witnessed the indoctrination first hand.
Some ignorant faggot joined the call and was immediately asked "do you trust jews?" he said
"no".
Then, he was utterly SHOCKED when the other people in the call told him Jesus was a jew. "Huh, I didn't know that..." he replied.
He was then asked:
>do you know the 14 words?
he replied:
>no
then the other guy answered:
>UGH, oh my god, you don't know ANYTHING dude.
>look up the 14 words and SAY THEM. That's how it all starts.
>DROP Christianity, because Jesus was jewish. And Jews are our RACIAL ENEMY.

They were literally urging this guy to memorize and quote a convicted murderer as some sort of spiritual mantra to replace Christianity because he was just finding out that Jesus was a jew.

Your pic just reminded me of that situation. I was baffled.
Anonymous No.82766863 >>82766947
>>82766770
What are you expecting to find by scanning mass graveyards that have already been excavated? It would be more productive to conduct studies on the bones found
Anonymous No.82766874 >>82766899 >>82768443
>>82766844
A twist of words that only show your intellectual dishonest. That's not the only thing you've got in common with nazis
Anonymous No.82766885 >>82766947
>>82766855
>Yeah, I'm not going to accept the evidence of the people who made the claim and people approved by those who made the claim who all have a vested interest in ensuring no one challenges that claim in any way.
>I don't believe peer reviewed studies because the peer review means it's fake.

>I don't believe the moon is real because missions on it have to be approved by the government.
very sad. I almost feel guilty for making you look so retarded.
Anonymous No.82766889 >>82766944 >>82766954
>>82766808
>People that already agree with us went there and they say they found evidence that agrees with us
Again, there are graves, but you will never be able to examine the scope of them to see the full size of them without already being connected to the people making the claim.
>>82766823
>Actually you can go scan them it's definitely not illegal
I like how we've just gotten to the point where you're all just lying, ran completely out of arguments and just screeching
>YOU CAN TO!
Despite the fact that, no, you can't. Not only can you not, it is illegal to do so, and you will go to jail if you try.
Anonymous No.82766899 >>82766911
>>82766874
you have no idea what youre talking about, do you understand this, you are either brown, a jew, a woman, or a self hating lunatic that needs to be barred from society until further notice
Anonymous No.82766905 >>82766947
>>82766855
>>Keeping a ledger of your illegal funds, products, and employees
Which sounds like what they did for concentration camps.
You are so historically ignorant you don't even know they used euphemisms like "zone of interest" and "pieces" to refer to prisoners.
It's like you have never really looked into the evidence you claim to discredit.
Your nazi apologetics is so superficial any actual nazi apologist would cower in shame
Anonymous No.82766911 >>82766961
>>82766899
>a self hating lunatic that needs to be barred from society until further notice
Anon this is 4chan, not a mirror
Anonymous No.82766944 >>82766976
>>82766889
You didn't answer what you think those discovered mass graves are. You think they are completely fake as in these corpses were planted there and everything surrounding the excavation process and the found remains are a prop?
Anonymous No.82766947 >>82766980 >>82767092 >>82767133
>>82766863
>
>>82766885
Only certain people are allowed to look and if you don't take their word for it you're evil
Okay man, good talk. I didn't realize 'peer-reviewed' meant 'only peer-reviewed and if anyone else fucking dares they go to prison"
>>82766905
>Which sounds like what they did for concentration camps
No, it doesn't at all, lmfao. There's a pretty stark difference between recording products because you have to keep track of them every step of the way until sale/use as there is money involved vs. keeping a detailed ledger about the names of people you're about to kill anyway. Why would they need that? There aren't just lists of how many people are coming through so they can properly stock supplies and clothing, there are long lists with names and how they killed them for no discernable reason other than to be cartoonish villains and act as 'proof' of what they did because ol' Adolf was really sentimental about it and wanted a keepsake.
Anonymous No.82766954 >>82766998
>>82766889
Can you please share your source of information that scanning the soil of ww2 mass graveyards is illegal?
Anonymous No.82766961
>>82766911
you just proved my point, you need to be locked up
Anonymous No.82766963 >>82766998
>>82766855
>The source is that they don't let people do it, only organizations that they approve of. There has never been a single independent scan of any of these sites without the person already having connections to the organization that oversees the site to begin with such as through a university.
Source?
Isn't that the same for fossil sites?
Anonymous No.82766976 >>82766988 >>82766990 >>82766999 >>82767009 >>82767236
>>82766944
No, I think they find a grave with twenty people in it then rope off a square mile and say that there's 500 in it and to try and verify independently means you're anti-Semitic or something, do that a couple dozen times in a few different places and hey, now around 10 million suddenly makes sense.
Anonymous No.82766980
>>82766947
>Only certain people are allowed to look
Source? You can visit these sites in person and see their findings in the museum.
Anonymous No.82766988
>>82766976
spot on, anti white retard btfo
Anonymous No.82766990
>>82766976
>I think they find a grave with twenty people in it
So you should be looking into the skeletal remains found more than the site they were discovered. It's easy to count the craniums.
Anonymous No.82766998 >>82767008 >>82767014 >>82767025 >>82767079
>>82766954
>>82766963
>Can you provide proof that this thing that never happens never happened?
I mean the fact that there are no independent scans of any of these places should give you a bit of a hint, every single one is vetted and already has connections to the people at the site which is how they get approved to begin with.
Anonymous No.82766999 >>82767008 >>82767027
>>82766976
>I think they find a grave with twenty people in it then rope off a square mile and say that there's 500 in it
And your source for that claim?
Anonymous No.82767008 >>82767022 >>82767040
>>82766998
>I mean the fact that there are no independent scans of any of these places should give you a bit of a hint, every single one is vetted and already has connections to the people at the site which is how they get approved to begin with.
all jewish and fake
>>82766999
>And your source for that claim?
his source is a brain, which you lack
Anonymous No.82767009 >>82767027
>>82766976
>I think they
have you read any of the studies, or are you just talking out of your ass? Because the methodology for the process is very well documented in the "methodology" part of the study kek
Anonymous No.82767014 >>82767066
>>82766998
You say they don't let "independent researchers scan the soil" but is that really true, anon? Did you come up with that conclusion by trying to independently research ww2 graveyards? Were you prohibited from doing that?
Anonymous No.82767022 >>82767030
>>82767008
>his source is a brain
this has been proven to be of very low quality and reasoning skills, several times in this very thread
Anonymous No.82767025
>>82766998
Independent research have been linked to you in this very thread, you are just confused about what "independent" means in science.
It means you are not getting paid by anyone to make that study.
Anonymous No.82767027 >>82767049 >>82767057 >>82767071
>>82766999
>Hey I know it's illegal for anyone but the people who made the claim to check but can you provide a source counter to what they say?
>>82767009
>Hey I know we'll arrest you if you try but can you prove it?
I like how the constant stream of insults didn't work so now it's onto gaslighting. Just prevent anyone from ever checking otherwise and then claim there's no contrary evidence.
Anonymous No.82767030 >>82767050
>>82767022
>this has been proven to be of very low quality and reasoning skills, several times in this very thread
you think you're very smart but you're not, i guarantee your brain is physically smaller than his and has less wrinkles
Anonymous No.82767040
>>82767008
>his source is a brain
Oh I see. He's making it up
Anonymous No.82767049 >>82767066
>>82767027
>we'll arrest you
Except that didn't really happen anywhere regarding ww2 graveyard research and you are reaching for the stars in a desperate attempt to defend nazism
You've being doing that this entire thread
Anonymous No.82767050 >>82767069
>>82767030
>you think you're very smart
not at all. I just think you both are very dumb. The fact you couldn't distinguish this, is yet more proof.
Anonymous No.82767057 >>82767089
>>82767027
>can you provide a source saying it's illegal to independently scan ww2 mass graves like you keep repeating?
>Silence
Anonymous No.82767066 >>82767178 >>82767186
>>82767014
Yes, it's true, which is why they will deny anyone who doesn't have connections with the people who operate the specific site already. There have been no scans performed by anyone who wasn't doing it on behalf of a university or wasn't involved with the site already. You cannot just walk up as an individual and ask them for permission
>>82767049
>Deny anyone from doing it without permission
>Only give permission to people already connected to the site and the people who oversee it
>Harsh penalties if they risk trying to do it anyways under the guise of vandaIism laws
But it's not illegal, tee hee.
Anonymous No.82767069 >>82767089 >>82767112
>>82767050
stop samefagging so much
Anonymous No.82767071 >>82767089
>>82767027
>Just prevent anyone from ever checking
You can check it if you want, but then you won't be able to use your "you can't check it" lie, so you choose ignorance instead.
Anonymous No.82767079
>>82766998
>there are no independent scans
You didn't even click the links, one of them is independent research
Anonymous No.82767086
>>82766817
why did you reply to my post and then say nothing relevant to it?
there are tenants of nazism that make you a nazi. I doubt historic nazis were all absolute monoliths about their values, but enough shared features to. notice.
Anonymous No.82767089 >>82767103 >>82767223
>>82767057
>Can you prove this didn't happen
Again, the fact that there have been no independent scans without the person already being connected to the site and the people overseeing it.
>>82767069
>Retard cannot fathom the idea of two people disagreeing with him
Lmfao, I already said earlier that there's a second person arguing who's not me and you're still having a shitfit.
>>82767071
>You can check if we approve, which we won't unless you already know us
But you totally can.
Anonymous No.82767092 >>82767107
>>82766947
>recording products because you have to keep track of them every step of the way until sale/use as there is money involved
Which is exactly what they did for camp prisoners going as far as calling them "pieces".
In fact it wouldn't be possible to manage camps without those records. It would fall to chaos and germans are known for efficiency
Anonymous No.82767103 >>82767140
>>82767089
You specifically mentioned the illegality of researching ww2 mass graveyards with soil scanning technology.
Can you source that law?
Anonymous No.82767107 >>82767129 >>82767142
>>82767092
>We need to know the name and details of the death of this person we're about to throw into a pit because...
I'm pretty sure you can manage the camps just fine with just a list of names, I don't think you need to write down how they died, when they died, and where you buried them so decades later the people who don't like you can say
>SEE!? EVIL!
Anonymous No.82767112
>>82767069
What? You really are retarded huh?
Anonymous No.82767129 >>82767177
>>82767107
>a list of names
Crazy idea here, they had numbers. They didn't give a fuck about names.
People have been managing inventories with numbers for a very long time.
Anonymous No.82767133 >>82767177
>>82766947
>there are long lists with names and how they killed them for no discernable
Another lie. We have names. Not specific ways they perished.
The names were for precise control. Know the names, know if anyone escaped.
To be considered cartoon evil, you don't need prison camps. You just need a map. Which you ignore
Anonymous No.82767140 >>82767147 >>82767150 >>82767153 >>82767166 >>82767175
>>82767103
>Can you source that law?
Lmfao, got it. So you won't accept it unless there's a literal law in the books that says that. No, they do it in a roundabout way; you cannot search without permission, they will not give you permission unless you are connected to them, thus, no one who is not connected to them gets permission and it's illegal to go outside of this under the guise of vandalism, trespassing, etc. I can go walk to a graveyard near my house with the necessary gear and do it and no one would say anything about it even if I posted it online, I cannot do the same in any of these places without immediately being arrested.
Anonymous No.82767142
>>82767107
>don't think you need to write down how they died
And they did? Can you source that piece of information?
Anonymous No.82767147
>>82767140
So it's not really illegal for you to independently research mass graveyards from ww2
You just never did that, and you discredit anyone who has ever conducted a research on the subject and published their results
Anonymous No.82767150
>>82767140
are you certain about that? I bet there are a ton of blind spots.
Anonymous No.82767153 >>82767174
>>82767140
>you cannot search without permission
Same for fossil sites, that you brought up earlier as a comparison.
Anonymous No.82767166 >>82767210
>>82767140
>I can go walk to a graveyard near my house with the necessary gear and do it
You could do the same to these sites, which are just standing there in rural Poland and Belarus, no where near "protected".
You just never did it but you assume you wouldn't be able to, wrongly.
Anonymous No.82767174
>>82767153
most fossil sites are in national parks. many major cities are sitting on bone beds where fossils are just destroyed on the reg because reporting them would be a waste of time and money.
so, there are a ton of places you can go fossil hunting totally legally
Anonymous No.82767175 >>82767201
>>82767140
>So you won't accept it unless there's a literal law in the books that says that.
Says the guy who has been arguing for the need for explicit proof of something this entire fucking time.
You can't keep a single one of your standards straight for the duration of a thread. You literally have committed basically every bad faith tactic in the book in such little time. Truly amazing. Don't you think?
Anonymous No.82767177 >>82767204 >>82767215
>>82767129
>They didn't give a fuck about names
>>82767133
>We have names
Anonymous No.82767178
>>82767066
>they will deny anyone who doesn't have connections with the people who operate the specific site already
Source?
Sounds like you just making shit up
Anonymous No.82767186
>>82767066
>>Only give permission to people already connected to the site and the people who oversee it
Made up nonsense. Never tried doing research before
Anonymous No.82767201 >>82767206 >>82767212 >>82767229 >>82767253
>>82767175
>for the need for explicit proof of something this entire fucking time.
Yeah because explicit proof for millions of dead is a lot easier to provide than explicit proof of manipulative implementation of the law. They don't need a law that says
>This specific action is specifically illegal
When you can just use a combination of existing laws and selective enforcement. No one would give a shit if you walked up to your local graveyard and tried, they would give a shit if you went to a fenced off mass grave and tried which is why they don't give you permission unless you're a university or working with the site overseer.
Anonymous No.82767204
>>82767177
This is the moment you reveal yourself as a simpleton who can't see that both things are true and show a progression of the prisional system in nazi Germany.
You have a name on the list up to the moment you get to the camp. If you get to Auschwitz, your prisoner number with be tattooed on your forearm.
From then on, your personhood is removed. You are seen as a number. It marks the transition in the life of the prisoner: from human to cattle.
Anonymous No.82767206
>>82767201
>explicit proof for millions of dead
Didn't you say the nazis kept record of prisoners? Isn't that self admitted proof?
Anonymous No.82767210
>>82767166
>You could do the same to these sites, which are just standing there in rural Poland and Belarus, no where near "protected".
Some guy actually did it. I mentioned it already.
His name was Krege. And he lied.
He was an electrical engineer and said that he but a very cool scanner to do this research, went over and conducted his study.
This was in the 90s, iirc. He claimed there was nothing.

He:
>never published a description of his fancy machine or how it worked.
>never published his findings
>never published a single paper or any data collected
>his last mention of his study was in 2004, where he said "it's coming, trust me bro"
Over 20 years later, he still hasn't published a single result.
He lied.
And, as I posted earlier, similar studies, with actual scientific methodology have been conducted, and the findings are consistent with the historical claims.
Anonymous No.82767212 >>82767255
>>82767201
>for millions of dead
And millions erased in concentration camps and their furnaces, which was the purpose of these facilities.
We do have direct evidence of mass graves, but you will die on this hill that a mass grave is fake unless you dig it.
Anonymous No.82767215
>>82767177
>>We have names
We have names because the people killed had familial ties and registers in other governmental documents.
You're struggling a lot on the most simple things.
Anonymous No.82767223
>>82767089
>there have been no independent scans
There has, actually. You haven't read the papers, ignorance doesn't mean absence
Anonymous No.82767229
>>82767201
>No one would give a shit if you walked up to your local graveyard and tried
I'm pretty sure that graveyard security exists for this very reason. And grave-robbing, ofc.
Anonymous No.82767236 >>82767261 >>82767287
>>82766976
So do you think these 20 people found are legitimate war victims of nazis?
Because at this point it sounds like a number's game.
If you have a video of workers excavating all the 500 remains, would that be enough for you or you will claim something wild like the bones were planted and are fake?
Anonymous No.82767253 >>82767271
>>82767201
You failed to provide a single source for your claim that independently researching the mass graves is forbidden.
You seem so sure of that, but the more you say, the more it sounds like you conjured that opinion from nothing, not from actual evidence or reports.
Anonymous No.82767255 >>82767273 >>82767314
>>82767212
>unless you dig it
I mean I have twenty people contradicting each other because a few of you are saying it's illegal to dig up any remains while others are claiming they already dug them up like dinosaur bones. Then that there are ledgers but also the they wanted to keep the whole thing a secret but also Hitler was open about what he wanted to do. Also they wanted to get as many as possible but they also moved them into camps which slowed the entire process down, which is also harder to hide than just dragging people to a secluded area to shoot and bury which contradicts that they wanted to conceal it. Also you can scan it and there have been independent scans but every single one posted is either a university or someone vetted and approved by the site overseers.
Anonymous No.82767261 >>82767287
>>82767236
He will claim that 500 is a small number and blame it on a mistake or a rogue soldier.
Surviving German documents account for over a million, as I said previously. And, under Fuhrerprinzip, every single action done by the German army is directly traced back to Hitler's will, as per their own ideological framework.
Anonymous No.82767271 >>82767289
>>82767253
Again, every single source provided thus far is a vetted individual or organization such as a university tied to the site, if they just don't approve anyone who disagrees with them by saying the person will vandalize the site electronically than how can you trust it? People are just screeching that you can but you can't, and the one example of someone remotely like that is a random last name from the 90's who apparently never said anything after the fact and the machine he used is unknown so it's not even a good example.
Anonymous No.82767273 >>82767287
>>82767255
>it's illegal to dig up any remains
It is in most civilized countries.
With little effort, however, you can conduct independent research specially if you won't disrupt the soil.
You never tried doing that though. You never read anything about someone trying to do that. You just assumed the jew boogieman would stop you at all costs.
Which is pretty on brand for a nazi apologist.
Anonymous No.82767287 >>82767315
>>82767236
>If you have videos of
>>82767273
>It is in most civilized countries (it's illegal)
How am I supposed to argue with multiple people when you yourselves don't even align? Has it already happened or is it not allowed or is it something I can go ask for permission for to do now?
>>82767261
>Surviving German documents account
Again, they wanted to hide it so much they kept detailed records of it to be found later despite those records having no use once the people on it are dead.
Anonymous No.82767289 >>82767313
>>82767271
You haven't checked any of the links provided, you didn't look into it, went over their affiliations and bias or the methods they went through to get their permissions they needed. You didn't really investigate their sponsorship, their connections or their intentions.
You simply chose to be ignorant and remain blind to all evidence without any prospecting.
Anonymous No.82767313 >>82767331 >>82767359
>>82767289
Every single source provided just described what was found and who found it, which I already went over that construction crews don't dig up the entire site before suddenly stopping and saying they have to tell someone. They hit one set of bones, stop, and contact someone who takes over from there, who takes over is an organization, museum, university that already makes such claims who then further examines the site and make whatever claims they want from it because no one is allowed to check without their approval. Not a single source listed was just some guy who was unsure one way or the other and wanted to verify, because they wouldn't let that guy do it they'd just tell him to fuck off.
Anonymous No.82767314 >>82767340
>>82767255
You know what's sad? If you ever went all the way and conducted a research and found nothing because these sites have been emptied and excavated before, you would use that to further your narrative.
But if you went there and found human remains, you would also find a way to twist that to also further the narrative. You would say the previous excavation team did something wrong, you would claim the remains aren't from nazi victims, you would simply find a way to be dismissive, disingenuous and pick holes in the fabric of history.
You are doing that now. Despite all the evidence in favor of the nazi war crimes, you're choosing to focus on unearthed grave sites knowing full well that they're out of your reach and therefore you could leverage that to further your narrative.
Anonymous No.82767315 >>82767340
>>82767287
>Again, they wanted to hide it so much they kept detailed records of it to be found later despite those records having no use once the people on it are dead.
They did destroy many of the documents. You are trying very hard.
The documents I mentioned were messages that were gathered by the brits at the time of the time of the war. The Germans knew that their shit was tapped, which is why they developed the enigma machine, the brits broke the encryption and the Germans didn't know. That is how we have many of these documents, they were intercepted messages.
Other documents did survive the purge. Keeping tabs when running an extermination plan is necessary, as well as getting rid of those very documents when done, as you point out.
You are very bad at this logic thing.
Anonymous No.82767331 >>82767350 >>82767364
>>82767313
>They hit one set of bones, stop, and contact someone who takes over from there, who takes over is an organization, museum, university that already makes such claims who then further examines the site and make whatever claims they want from it because no one is allowed to check without their approval.
Which happens for every paleontological/archeological finding.
If you're going to doubt that, what else will you doubt? Fossils should be the very first thing on your list, because you are describing how every fossil excavation works.
It's very inconsistent to doubt the work of these researchers, but then believe in the people researching ancient civilizations using the same methods.
You could doubt them all, and it would make for a more consistent worldview, but one closer to a flat earther.
Anonymous No.82767340 >>82767382 >>82767384 >>82767401 >>82767422 >>82767439 >>82767458
>>82767314
I have said multiple times if I was legally allowed to do and found that it was that I would concede immediately, but I can't, so I won't. All of your evidence is either unverifiable like pictures that could be from any location and any time, detailed ledgers they supposedly kept despite also apparently desperately wanting to hide what they were doing, etc. and evidence you're not allowed to independently verify like mass graves you cannot check unless you are an individual approved by the people making the claim to begin with.
>>82767315
But you haven't actually have described why it's necessary, you just keep saying it is. Why would they need detailed records of someone they just killed and discarded in a pit? What does that do except act as evidence of the thing they apparently wanted to desperately hide from the world while Hitler was also openly saying what they were doing?
Anonymous No.82767350 >>82767368
>>82767331
>Fossils should be the very first thing on your list, because you are describing how every fossil excavation works.
DUH! Fossils aren't real and they are used by the jews to prop up the fake "FOSSIL fuel" industry. Wake up!
Anonymous No.82767359 >>82767379
>>82767313
>Not a single source listed was just some guy
Because science is never "just some guy". And you know why?
Because then we would get the crazy wackos like you, defending hitler and making wild claims without a shred of evidence.
There's not one single research on earth that can survive these imaginary standards you impose to world war 2 gravesites, which would simply be taking an idiot like you to the excavation site and letting you roam about flaunting your ignorance and stupidity without a hint of knowledge on how to excavate archeological remains.
Anonymous No.82767364 >>82767391
>>82767331
>But you can't
No one would arrest you for an unapproved scan of soil above an excavation site, and there are independent hobbyists who have done such things with the only vetting being that someone keeps an eye on them they don't disturb anything. The same cannot be said about these.
Anonymous No.82767368
>>82767350
I wouldn't be surprised if he believed in that unironically
Anonymous No.82767379 >>82767392
>>82767359
>We can't let anyone except the people we approve of scan it because YOU'RE CRAZY!
>But you can do it yourself you just never tried because YOU'RE CRAZY
The best part about arguing with multiple people on this topic is that you all come up with different rationales so I know you're bullshitting. None of you can stay on track with each other.
Anonymous No.82767382 >>82767432
>>82767340
>But you haven't actually have described why it's necessary, you just keep saying it is. Why would they need detailed records of someone they just killed and discarded in a pit? What does that do except act as evidence of the thing they apparently wanted to desperately hide from the world while Hitler was also openly saying what they were doing?
You need to keep tabs to control the process, when you reach set goals, efficiency, etc. If you don't keep tabs, you can't know when you have gotten rid of all the jews. Even for deportation purposes, you need to do it.
You are legitimately going on the dumbest tangent I have seen when discussing with your kind.

>openly
Encypted documents that are only accessible to certain, trusted people are the opposite of "open".
Anonymous No.82767384 >>82767432
>>82767340
>if I was legally allowed to
You are, with the bare minimum effort and a set of emails to the city hall, you could get the permits. You won't do it because you're not interested in uncovering truth.
Your game is precisely the opposite, you want to obfuscate truth and sow confusion with your narratives and lies
Something Hitler excelled at.
Anonymous No.82767391
>>82767364
>The same cannot be said about these
Source?
Anonymous No.82767392 >>82767432
>>82767379
I already gave you an example of an independent guy who did the exact study you want and was proven to be lying about it.
Anonymous No.82767401
>>82767340
>All of your evidence
There's millions and millions of pieces of evidence of nazi war crimes, each with their own merits.
Your generalization betray your ignorance. You haven't analyzed the documents, the pictures, you haven't looked for the originals, you haven't really put the work into it.
You have just bought the narrative that nazis were good guys, and like any fundamentalist, you are ricocheting every evidence that contradicts this like a young earth creationist dismissing fossils.
Anonymous No.82767422 >>82767428 >>82767441
>>82767340
>like pictures that could be from any location and any time
These pictures were taken by a camera that came with a negative and an owner and all of that is thoroughly documented.
There's no historical evidence that could survive the level of scrutiny you apply to nazi war crime evidence. There's no historical event that could be deemed true by your level of willing blindness to evidence.
Anonymous No.82767428
>>82767422
>fake hollywood jewish bullshit is evidence
Anonymous No.82767432 >>82767483
>>82767382
And when they're done? You were talking about documents from the 1940's so they just kept those around for sentimental purposes? And if you're going to say that no everyone in the ledger was killed just yet before the end of the war so they needed them why were people in death camps surviving for years and years and years and being transferred between camps while being fed and clothed the entire time? It seems like they really wanted their super secret evil plans to be seen by just keeping them forever even when everyone on the list is dead.
>opposite of "open
But another person said Hitler was very open about his plans for extermination? So were they attempted to be kept secret secret or did Hitler just say it?
>>82767384
Okay, I'll get in contact with "city hall" right away and be back with my findings.
>>82767392
You gave me a last name and zero details except the fact there were no details and called him a liar, how is that an example? I'm sure plenty of people have said they've scanned it and saw nothing, but I believe that as much as people who've scanned it and said they've seen something if they don't have anything to actually show for it.
Anonymous No.82767439 >>82767470
>>82767340
>Why would they need detailed records of someone they just killed and discarded in a pit?
Measurement of efficiency. Allocation of resources. How many people are being eliminated? How many more can be? How much money will it take? All of this are necessary in the sense that you cannot run a death camp in any other way.
Anonymous No.82767441 >>82767490
>>82767422
>We have all the details
>How? Because we said so
>Who found it? Us.
Anonymous No.82767458 >>82767502
>>82767340
>openly saying
Not openly. These were state secrets for the top officials only.
You have to decide: either you believe these records are true, meaning they indeed killed that many people
Or you believe these records are fake, meaning they succeeded in hiding it
Anonymous No.82767459 >>82767487
>>82763007 (OP)
If deviant art existed in 1930s, Hitler would be a furry on that website and would himself be a libtard.
Anonymous No.82767470 >>82767507
>>82767439
Again, that just sounds like a list of people kept there, not a murder list. We went from the claim that the list is proof they're death camps to now the lists is just a function of running anything from a criminal organization to a summer camp to a death camp. If they're just going to shoot or gas everyone on the list and they also don't want the list being found then why keep the list after you've dumped them in a pit.
Anonymous No.82767483 >>82767502
>>82767432
>You gave me a last name and zero details except the fact there were no details and called him a liar, how is that an example?
You can look up his name and you will find all the info that I gave you. A proven liar.
>And when they're done? You were talking about documents from the 1940's so they just kept those around for sentimental purposes?
They weren't done, retard. They didn't kill all jews, they lost. They purged as much as they could when they realized they were gonna lose, some survived.
>You were talking about documents from the 1940's
The brits intercepted the communications as they were happening...
Anonymous No.82767487
>>82767459
That is what happened to Derek Black.
Anonymous No.82767490 >>82767530
>>82767441
>Doesn't look into the details
>Already decided they're fake
Flat earther logic
All of these pictures of liberated camps are followed with extensive video records, do you want to see the videos?
You will find ways to twist then to fit your narrative though.
Anonymous No.82767502 >>82767511 >>82767518 >>82767571
>>82767458
Alright, but there's another guy saying that Hitler wasn't hiding his plans for extermination.
>>82767483
>They weren't done, retard.
Do you think every single ledger was a comprehensive list of every single person they had? I mean when they were done with that specific page in the ledger; If everybody on page one is dead, why wouldn't you pull out page one and throw it into a fire? If everyone in that specific ledger is dead why wouldn't you throw the entire fucking thing into a fire? Why did they keep them until suddenly going into purge mode towards the end of the war where some were left from the start and some were left from the end If they're trying to keep the entire thing a secret?
Anonymous No.82767507 >>82767530
>>82767470
If you want to sound less like a dictator apologist, maybe try not being oblivious about the most basic method of genocide in recorded history: starvation of prisoners.
Anonymous No.82767511 >>82767530
>>82767502
And he wasn't, have you read. Mein kumpf? The writing was on the wall.
He was hiding the concrete evidence, not his genocidal intentions.
Anonymous No.82767518 >>82767544
>>82767502
>why wouldn't you pull out page one and throw it into a fire?
And they did that. Only god knows how much evidence they burned.
What survived is the tip of the iceberg
Anonymous No.82767530 >>82767560 >>82767584 >>82767605 >>82767614
>>82767490
>We have photos and videos of bodies so now we know the details of how they died and who killed them and we know the motivation
Okay, now we're going back to the very beginning of the thread, I have never once said nobody died in those camps I've said this isn't proof of systematic mass murder.
>>82767507
What the fuck does that have to do with keeping a murder list when you don't want anyone to know you're killing people?
>>82767511
>He made an entire book about how he's going to do it but also tried to hide that he was doing it because he didn't want people to find out
Got it, that makes perfect sense.
Anonymous No.82767544 >>82767570
>>82767518
But apparently they did it selectively since we have some towards the beginning of the war and we have some towards the end of the war just so we could conveniently get a full scope of what they did, convenient.
Anonymous No.82767560 >>82767639
>>82767530
>never once said nobody died in those camps
No, you're just taking hours of your day to raise doubt about verifiable historical evidence and paint nazis as "not that bad".
Nazis are so evil that not even the most radical apologist is able to deny death camps. It's all a numbers game where you try to downplay the reality of what happened in there
Anonymous No.82767570 >>82767639
>>82767544
We have plenty of records in every year of the war and we know that the killings in the camps peaked in 1942. You are once more speaking from ignorance
Anonymous No.82767571 >>82767639
>>82767502
>Do you think every single ledger was a comprehensive list of every single person they had?
Not at all. The documents I am talking a out are something like
>4,000 executed at x
>15 thousand shot at y
>set xxxx sent to camp numer 3
Etc.
Anonymous No.82767584 >>82767639
>>82767530
>I've said this isn't proof of systematic mass murder.
The camps were systematic mass murder sites. Denying that is denying the camps.
These weren't ordinary prison camps. Trains filled with prisoners got in everyday. None got out.
Anonymous No.82767597 >>82767626
>>82763007 (OP)
ive seen so many people flip flop this hard, it's disturbing. they just have no real values, get bored or whatever and go do something else.
Anonymous No.82767605
>>82767530
>keeping a murder list
There's no way to do mass murder without organization and resource management, those lists are for that. They're not for the public and 99% of the evidence was destroyed by Nazis, we are very lucky to have something at all. Otherwise nazi apologists like you would be even more emboldened
Anonymous No.82767614
>>82767530
>He made an entire book about how he's going to do it
True
>Also tried to erase concrete evidence that could be leveraged against his regime in the future (as it was)
True.
Too much for your simpleton nazi head.
Anonymous No.82767626
>>82767597
You should find disturbing that a teenager could fall for nazism in the first place, not that they got out of that hole
Anonymous No.82767639 >>82767681 >>82767717 >>82767723 >>82767748
>>82767560
Not a response to what I said but cool seethe
>>82767570
Which is my point, why didn't they destroy the old records as they moved on to the new ones if the intention was to keep the entire thing secret? Shouldn't all we have be from the end of the war, the stuff they couldn't destroy before getting forced out of their position and someone else found it?
>>82767571
Yeah, why would you need that? Why would you need to say you executed or shot or starved or gassed them if all you're tracking is numbers? If you're trying to keep your murder camps a secret your ledger would just read numbers;
>-4000 on xx/xx at X
>-15000 on xx/xx at Y
>+1000 on xx/xx at Z
Because then whoever found it without being involved in the process would have no idea what you're talking about. How were they so incompetent that they wrote their secret murder plans down and then left them laying around for people to find when they fled?
>>82767584
Except for all those weird transfers where you went from one death camp to a next because apparently you needed to be in a specific death camp to be killed.
Anonymous No.82767644 >>82767696
I think if the "le Naizs" were real, there wouldn't be interracial advertisement everywhere. There are no Nazis unfourtantely. They got beat in 1945 and white people have been on the decline since. White people will not even exist in the future.
Anonymous No.82767681 >>82767741
>>82767639
>why didn't they destroy the old records
They did.
You are asking a caught serial killer "why didn't you erase all the evidence" after he spent hours cleaning up the crime scene.
They tried to erase all the evidence. The nazi war effort counted on more than a 500k bureaucratic workers, one of them slipped up and that's how we have the little evidence that we have.
Anonymous No.82767696 >>82767709
>>82767644
>White people will not even exist in the future.
Bullshit. White people will always exist just like aboriginals exist today. The most br00tal genocide of all was native american genocide and they are still surviving to this day and age.
White people will just be another minority
Anonymous No.82767709 >>82767730
>>82767696
>White people will just be another minority
A persecuted one. They will be slaughtered like dogs and they deserve it for fighting against the "le Nazis"
Anonymous No.82767717 >>82767741
>>82767639
>Because then whoever found it without being involved in the process would have no idea what you're talking about. How were they so incompetent that they wrote their secret murder plans down and then left them laying around for people to find when they fled?
Many of the documents we have are explicitly made in the way you describe. This is why, in their speeches, for example, they never outright referenced the killing of the jews, just their "deportation", "processing", "cleansing", and every other euphemism you can think of.
Congratulations, on your very own, you have made the argument that historians make when analyzing these topics.
Usually, neo-nazis use the lack of the explicit word "killed", as proof that "there was no killing". Instead, you just made the argument that Holocaust scholars themselves use, as it is obvious what those euphemisms are referring to in context.
Congratulations, anon. You just agreed with Holocaust historical analysis.

Some documents do say things like "shot" or reference killing, again, these were encrypted, thus could be later edited to remove any use of those words. But the British had broken their code, Nazi Germany didn't know about that, so they kept running things as they had been doing.
There is even an anecdotal witness testimony of an SS officer who knce mentioned the camps in a phone call to Hitler's secretary, the latter then flew into a rage chastising the soldier because they weren't supposed to reference such things through the phone, where they lacked the proper security.
Anonymous No.82767723 >>82767759
>>82767639
>Shouldn't all we have be from the end of the war
If that was the case, you would be screaming "why don't we have evidence of the beginning of the war?" There's no winning with disingenuous people.
British intelligence was spying on nazis, they broke down the enigma machine which arguably costed the war to the Germans. By 1942, the world already heard rumors of the nazi extermination campaign. You can't keep a secret that big from spreading.
One of the evidences we have are intercepted letters from nazi soldiers and their accounts are the most revealing ones.
Anonymous No.82767730
>>82767709
If the jews survived nazi persecution, white people will survive your victim complex.
Anonymous No.82767741 >>82767755 >>82767768 >>82767788
>>82767681
Except you just said we had stuff from the beginning of the war, the middle of the war and the end of the war. So clearly they didn't, and instead they had a quick hack job trying to destroy everything at once instead of doing the reasonable thing of destroying the ledgers after the people listed in it are dead before moving on to a new one? Why would any of the 1942 documents even still exist by 1943? 1944? 45?
>>82767717
Then why didn't you list those document examples instead of the ones that said execute, shot, etc? Why would they even have documents that say execute, shot, etc. if they were going to use euphemisms in others?
Anonymous No.82767748 >>82767756 >>82767773
>>82767639
>Except for all those weird transfers where you went from one death camp to a next
There were no transfers taking prisoners out of Auschwitz or Bergen Belsen or the deadliest camps.
Nazis had in total more than a 100 concentration camps over europe. Camps that got routinely filled, but rarely emptied.
Can you source that piece of information about prisoners being taken from one camp to the next?
Anonymous No.82767755 >>82767773
>>82767741
>So clearly they didn't
What you mean to say is
>They didn't erase ALL evidence
Which is, like you said earlier, a perfect example of nazis "not being perfect"
Anonymous No.82767756 >>82767764 >>82767773
>>82767748
>Can you sour-
Can you kill yourself?
Anonymous No.82767759 >>82767770
>>82767723
If that was the case then the idea that they were destroying them and trying to keep it a secret would actually make sense, you're correct that I'd still doubt them because it's retarded to keep documentation of your secret murder plot that you don't want anyone to know about while the leader of the country talks about it into a microphone and in his book that he wrote but at least it wouldn't have the extra caveat of making them look cartoonishly incompetent or sentimental with their murder books that they didn't want to lose them. I bet they kept it in a big metal safe that said 'top secret' in big bold red letters on the front.
Anonymous No.82767764 >>82767790
>>82767756
So you don't really have one, and your claim that "prisoners were transferred from one camp to the next" is on the same level of truthfulness as "It's illegal to scan mass graves"?
It surprises no one that the nazi apologists resort to lies
Anonymous No.82767768 >>82767790
>>82767741
>Then why didn't you list those document examples instead of the ones that said execute, shot, etc? Why would they even have documents that say execute, shot, etc. if they were going to use euphemisms in others?
1. Because I assumed you were gonna go down the route of denying that it happened because the word "murdered" is not in the documents. Thus, thwarting that effort before you even tried such a common tactic.
2. Because these documents were not public. Thus their manipulation was managed by trusted officers. They had the most sophisticated encryption system ever created at the time, they believed it was unbreakable. The brits broke it thanks to the genius of Allan Turing. Estimates believe that the breaking of the Enigma code shortened the war by at least 2 years, that was how impactful it was.
Anonymous No.82767770 >>82767790
>>82767759
Your "secret murder plot" is a military operation that employs 50 thousand workers in has millions of victims spread across the entire continent
Nazis tried their hardest to erase the evidence of the genocide. But they weren't perfect.
Anonymous No.82767773 >>82767798 >>82767815 >>82767863
>>82767748
And Frank, being the most popular example, was transferred between multiple which is why she wasn't killed. She just died from sickness eventually because they kept pushing her around to different camps. As a matter of fact, I think that's the real genocide; They just moved you around until you died of natural causes like frustration at the ineptitude of the German death machine wasting your fucking time.
>>82767755
It's really convenient that they missed stuff from every part of the war so we got a full scope of the events beginning to end despite supposedly losing so much evidence.
>>82767756
Can you use a name or something?
Anonymous No.82767788
>>82767741
>Why would they even have documents that say execute, shot, etc. if they were going to use euphemisms in others?
The more public the information was, the more nebulous the euphemisms were.
Top secret information got passed around with fewer embellishments. While general orders that would trickle down the chain of command called the prisoners "pieces" and mentioned "hygiene"
Anonymous No.82767790 >>82767821 >>82767823 >>82767829 >>82767854
>>82767764
Did that sound anything like me honestly? If I was going to tell you to kill yourself I would have done it 20 times by now.
>>82767768
Yeah it's really convenient because you had some examples of them saying murdered so you know for a fact it was about being killed while the rest were euphemistic because they were trying to hide it, Isn't that so convenient?
>>82767770
If it's a secret murder plot they probably shouldn't write a book about it.
Anonymous No.82767798 >>82767961
>>82767773
This will come as a shock to you, but feeding prisoners 600 calories a day and letting them face the cold with only rags, while keeping them in overcrowded environments, while the weaker start dropping off like flies, counts as intentional genocide.
Anonymous No.82767815
>>82767773
>Anne Frank was selected along with her sister and about 1,000 other women for forced labor and transferred to the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. The transfer occurred on October 30, 1944, just before the Soviet army would liberate Auschwitz in January 1945.
Emptying a sardine can
Anonymous No.82767821 >>82767961
>>82767790
>Isn't that so convenient?
I have proof. My arguments are supported by said proof.
You are trying to say that the proof was fabricated to support the argument. In truth, the proof built the argument.
It is not convenient that 2+2 is 4. 2 was not created because 4 needs it to exist. It just so happens that a leads to b.
Anonymous No.82767823 >>82767961
>>82767790
You are defending Hitler and picking holes in the history of nazi death camps with the power of fake news. You are not that better than that other one.
Anonymous No.82767827 >>82767838
You still have lefties coming to this board to cry about the "le Nazis" in English! To an American audience! Meanwhile Jews commit a genocide right in front of the world. They are so ate up with Hollywood movies all they can think about are scary Nazis and exterminating white people. These people are sick in the head.
Anonymous No.82767829
>>82767790
>the rest were euphemistic because they were
Meant for broader audiences.
Anonymous No.82767838 >>82767850
>>82767827
>The nazis only targeted jews with inhumane treatment
Face of ignorance. You can call jews rats all day long. Doesn't make nazis any better
Anonymous No.82767850 >>82767881 >>82767909
>>82767838
Get a real boogy man, you fucking idiot. You are a product of FUCKING MOVIES
Anonymous No.82767854 >>82767961
>>82767790
>If it's a secret murder plot they probably shouldn't write a book about it.
Mein kumpf was written in 1925, more than ten years before the genocide.
The nazi war machine tried their hardest to erase history and delete evidence.
They weren't perfect.
Anonymous No.82767863
>>82767773
>It's really convenient that they missed stuff from every part
It's convenient that British espionage and intelligent broke down the enigma machine uncovering nazi secrets from 1940 onwards.
It's very convenient that hundreds of thousands of people working for the war effort couldn't keep all secrets safe.
Anonymous No.82767881 >>82768467
>>82767850
>Thinks of nazi atrocities
>Can only think of jews
Again, you are ignorant. Movies pale in comparison to historical evidence. No movie on earth has yet shown the true horror of Nazis.
Anonymous No.82767909
>>82767850
I don't recall any movies showing Bayer's exleriments on 200 live female jewish women, all of whom died. Pr how they then personally thanked Hitler for providing the subjects and then asked for another 200.
Anonymous No.82767961
>>82767798
600 calories you could instead feed to your starving soldiers and you could just not feed them, since you want to kill them anyways.
>>82767821
Unverifiable proof for proof that is illegal to try and verify
>>82767823
>Fake news
As opposed to the very real news of documents that they kept of the genocide, they wanted to keep secret which they tried to destroy, but they also somehow left documents from the beginning of the war, the middle of the war and the end of the war.
>>82767854
Yo is really convenient that he wrote a book about it before he went into super secret murder mode
Anonymous No.82768403
>>82763007 (OP)
Matthew Heimbach?
Anonymous No.82768428
>>82766857
>>82766775
These arent actual Nazis. They are mentally ill Angolems who would be gassed in Germany.
Actual National Socialists dont really exist anymore as national socialism was a spiritual awakening born of a particular time in Germany specifically. It cannot be recreated. Like you can not recreate Napoleon merely by imitating Napoleon because what defined him was being Napoleon where no other Napoleon existed. Likewise with National Socialism. Can not be done again. Needs something new.
Disney imagineers and Christian futurists are the closest thing to Nazis. Honorable mention to Muskrat and Thiel who are like really day versions of American NatSoc.
Anonymous No.82768443
>>82766836
>>82766874
We do not actually believe in gassing Jews as some ideological tenant. The holocaust (however real it was) occurred because of the desperation of the situation. We live in America. A mass assassination of otherwise innocent people is not only immoral but completely unnecessary.
It speaks to the strength of national socialism your only problem with it is you erroneously believe it is some vector for mass death.
Any ideology can lead to mass violence and death if bad people are at the helm or the situation deteriorates enough.
>you are just lying
Believe what you want but it is not card carrying Nazis who are out murdering people. It is leftists and non Whites.
We do not want anyone to be murdered we only want justice for our people.
Anonymous No.82768467
>>82767881
The true horror of what? Anti Partisan warfare? Those photos do not capture what the criminals did to the farmers. You see a man being executed but did you know he assisted rapists and murderers who raised numerous farms throughout Eastern Poland?
How many SD reports have you read? How many raped farm girls found dead in fields by burnt out houses did you see?
The Nazis saw more than enough for a hundred lifetimes and they brought the hammer down on subhuman rapists and murderers.
What does that look like in Eastern Europe? It looks like that photo you posted.
Ugliness breeds ugliness but at least the Nazis brought forth justice for those who could not bring it forth themselves.
Look at Eastern Europe today and tell me this is a functional civilized part of the world. It is the only part of Europe where genocide and war never ended and the Germans had to deal with these people.
Not to mention Israel - whos ancestors dwelt in the east of Europe at the time - where a proper well documented genocide is taking place before our very eyes.

The Nazis were right. If a group protects and produces rapists and murderers that is a group which deserves reprisal.