Thread 82765591

>In order for a woman to love you, you have to forego loving her
>Displays of attachment, devotion, intense affection and commitment are interpreted by the cavewoman foid brain as a display of lack of value, and weakness.
Do you agree with this? Yes/No? Why?

Personally, I agree with both statements. You can't show too much weakness or vulnerability to foids, it'll always backfire.

>>82765591 (OP)
it really depends on the woman cause while this can be true, for me personally i want them to show affection, attachment, devotion. i want them to be as dedicated to me as i am to them. men who don't show any sorta possessiveness or emotions towards their partner are fucking faggots in my eyes

>>82765659
You say that now but you, like the vast majority of women, really don't know what you want. And that's part of the problem.

>>82765659
>men who don't show any sorta possessiveness or emotions towards their partner are fucking faggots in my eyes
Yes, but there is a fine balance. You can't fully expose all your feelings all the time, you'll take it for granted and become "icked". I've found that strategic displays of affection are the only viable way to show your feelings to a woman. Too much, and it's icky.

I don't like it, but it is what it is. There's a reason that pretty much all women have chased some "emotionally unavailable" man at some point.

>>82765698
dude i dated a faggot loser who basically treated me like he hated me. recently i realised that no man will ever love me as much as i love them. i WANT to feel loved. i WANT them to obsess over me. i cry about this every fucking night

>you dont know what you want cause YOU HAVE A HOLE BETWEEN YER LEGS DERRRRR

ive poured hours of thought into what i want in a man, years of thought, just for some retard on 4chan to tell me i simply cant understand because i have a hole

fuck i wanna kill myself i cant stand being a woman cause no one ever fucking listens to you, you are reduced to how you were born. men can actually have their preferences respected and can actually be SOMETHING and be listened to but no i cant have any desire whatsoever because im merely a woman

i fucking hate being female. you say this is easymode but it isnt

>>82765659
>men who don't show any sorta possessiveness or emotions towards their partner are fucking faggots in my eyes
seems like a very hateful way to think of men who don't want to submit their emotions to you. Why is that? Perhaps you hate them because you can't control them?

>>82765591 (OP)
pretty much. it's kind of embarrassing. foids want to be desired but never to the point where it seems the man has nothing else going on. a man who texts everyday or gives too much attention kills attraction by seeming too needy. a man who puts his woman on a pedestal will lose her respect because it signals a lack of ambition or greater purpose. a man who is committed and loyal comes across as someone who doesn't have options so there must be something wrong with them, and therefore she thinks she can do better. and so on, and so forth

imagine if men thought the same way lel. oh she's not a slut and actually cares about me? ruh roh that must mean she's socially and/or genetically defective ;_;

>>82765591 (OP)
I've experienced the opposite. I am attractive and mentally unwell and probably what zoomers call an abuse Chad. But the truth is that women cheat on the abuse Chad and leave him for the exact kind of guy that shares his feelings and is devoted to her. Yes, even if he isn't as tall, handsome, or good in bed. They want him more.

I've been trying to change and getting positive results. I have a personality disorder so there's a lot of work to do regarding empathy but I'm doing it

>>82766428
(Cont.)
I think the fear of showing emotions comes off as cowardice to women, akshually. Humans are extremely complex and have evolved for millions of years to detect genetic quality in their mates.

If a woman is sleeping with you, she's deemed you worthy. To withhold at that point comes off as weak and unstable. The question really is if you are actively deceiving her about your intentions or personality. If you bravely own everything you say and do, you can easily cry in front of her and proclaim your eternal love. That's all fine IF you aren't being a coward or unstable. It's not desperation to worship your woman if you feel that way. She'll love it off you really mean it. You cannot have real intimacy without vulnerability.

Trust me l, women live for romance and extreme proclamations of commitment. It makes the sex better too if you're obsessed with her. She wants to feel secure, first and foremost. If you can't make her cum it's probably because she doesn't feel safe with you yet.

Ask yourself who is a bigger pussy: the guy who is afraid of women knowing how he feels or the guy who isn't. Easy answer

>>82765591 (OP)
SHIT tactics attract SHIT people
The truth is in accepting that too many people are SHIT
Let go of your blind humanity OP

Sadly it is factual

>>82766496
>women live for
Whatever they don't have at the moment

>>82766589
>Khajiit wishes for you to go away now. You have done us much harm

>>82765787
Yes honey, every single woman behaves like the OP described but you're that one special unicorn
>dude i dated a faggot loser who basically treated me like he hated me
Wait nevermind...

>>82765591 (OP)
no everyone in this thread is retarded. if you're talking about before the first fuck??? none of this should even be at play from either side because you're simply setting up the first date or movie or whatever with them. after the first fuck??? what the fuck are you talking about, retard? if you fuck good, have a huge cock, and are attractive, they don't give a shit how often you text them, they will eat your texts up and respond to you twice as fast. so moral of this thread? this is just another shitty theoretical incel thread that only applies at the very beginning when you haven't even fucked her yet, but it shouldn't even happen at that point because the only thing you need to do is invite her over, holy fucking jumping shit balls

>>82765659
>>82765787
I Why do women lie about this and then say in the same breath that they only give abuse chads a chance not the lovey dovey clingy and caring guy? I know women lie to others and themvesl all the time so they can't see it but come on have some introspective. Women would not even give the type of guy who is not an abuse chad a change in the first place. There is a reason you have so many clingy, love seeking lonely men on here and abuse chads out who have sex with women.
>>82766577
All single women are pieces of shits there is a reason they are, either they are so picky not even chad can get them so you have zero chances or they are single because they are shit. Good, kind and caring women (very few women are like this btw) are ALL in relationships and the only way to get to know them is by interacting with them irl for a very long time. No man would be so stupid and let a good woman go, they keep them tight for themselves and you have no way to get one.

>>82766606
Haha

>>82766656
What incoherent, low IQ rambling. I'm OP, and I'm talking about relationships in general, after you've already had intimacy. It can happen to men that have been married for many years, even

>>82766656
you've never been in a relationship, have you? if all it took was a good dicking women would never cheat or break up with anyone. also...
>at the very beginning
OP was referring to love, ironically enough