Thread 82790477

Is cognitive behavioral therapy just a scam? The therapist today was like
>so when you're feeling sad or when you feel like life isn't worth living, stop and ask yourself why you have these feeling
Doc, I've been down this road in my head every day for the last 15 years. Why the fuck do you think I drink like a fish?

Also if someone has experience from similar therapy please share.

>>82790477 (OP)
>therapist
>>82790477 (OP)
>scam

>>82790477 (OP)
he's saying that because you aren't actually asking yourself why you have those feelings, retard, you're just glossing over the surface dumbass

>>82790477 (OP)
it's the most retarded type of therapy along with DBT and IFS

you get what you deserve for not DYOR

>>82790477 (OP)
>Is cognitive behavioral therapy just a scam?
No, it's proven to help

>>82790489
>everything has a reason, especially reason you could put into words
*rips your teeth off and rapes your face until you suffocate and die*

>>82790506
and the reason that you wrote this is because you're frustrated over thinking about those reasons

>>82790505
the research is for when everyone problematic is excluded from the samples. you're a dumb subhuman cattle retard slurping vomit and piss

>>82790477 (OP)
I mean, most therapy and guruism shit is a scam.
I actually went to one session, with CBT in mind. It was useless because my anxiety was caused by actual factors. So objectively viewing my concerns led to
>Oh yeah. That's bad. It will get worse if you don't fix it.

>>82790489
There is no "reason" why I wanna blow my brains out. I simply just dont like living. It's all a hassle. No goals. No point.
>but then you need to get some hobby and set some goals
Yeah sure, but that is so much of a hassle it's easier to just not live.

>>82790505
Maybe helps "situational depression". I.e. the feeling of loss or something. Then your brain just ain't wired, it just isn't.

>>82790528
>everyone problematic is excluded from the samples
That's simply how statistics is done. Smooth curve :O

>>82790523
nope sweetie, this doesn't click
how does this make you feel?

>>82790538
>Then your brain just ain't wired, it just isn't.
When your brain*

>>82790539
>statistics is one big abuse of methodology to get what your shareholders want
yes

>>82790477 (OP)
Mental health everything is just a scam to shame the people society categorizes as weird. Were a disease instead of real people because soiciety pathologizes anything different to themselves because literally everything and everyone has to be a homogenized hivemind according to their caveman brains. They do this under the guise of "reducing suffering" when in fact most of the suffering is caused BY THEM AND THEIR PEERS. It's all gaslighting pretty much because the average Joe can't understand anything or anyone past themselves

>>82790561
>Mental health everything is just a scam
no but they made a scam out of it

>>82790570
Maybe instead of pathologizing people they respect them instead

>>82790549
Hmm that's valid, because if it were profitable to treat people with mental illness as anything more than subhuman cattle being led to slaughter, then healthcare providers would do that

>>82790494
anything else, retard? did you have anything else on your mind that you wanted to share with everyone in the thread?

>>82790477 (OP)
I mean, I tried to kms a little over a year ago and it helped me. However, he also put me on medication.

>>82790583
yes and no. the greedy industries are retarded when it comes to long-term profits, the world shitshow is from maximizing quick turnover short term profits at the expense of anything else

>>82790604
>yes and no
stopped reading there

>>82790597
I fuck your mom and she keeps asking for seconds daily

any other questions, midwit sissy?

>>82790604
Developed countries just say that healthcare is a right

>>82790609
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didn't stop fucking your mom there

>>82790617
and then they provide the shittiest healthcare and try to scam you anyway like you're in the US

the point of talking to therapists is to convince them to press the button that tells the drug store to give you the prescription you want. everything else is 100% scam.

>>82790609
Idk how mature you are, but when you're an adult, you learn that not all doctors are equal, and you will have to actually shop around for good ones. Therapy is no different. There are therapists whose only goal is to keep you coming, and there are ones who help. It's up to you to find it. Also, like any self improvement thing. It doesn't work if you don't actually want it.

>>82790633
>the point of talking to therapists is to convince them to press the button
G spot and prostate?

>>82790561
The day will come where the grid will go down and these so called experts will rightfully starve to death. I don't need to be fixed I'm great just the way I am

>>82790644
wrong. they'll become whores and criminals

>>82790634
>you will have to actually shop around for good ones
at some point it's quicker to become own therapist because no therapist has incentive to really study outside of their approved echochamber branch

>>82790640
i guess i've never thought to try, but if you want and can manage that, then, well, hey, i'm sure that'd help too

i'd think a prostitue would be both cheaper and more dignified though

>>82790634
>It doesn't work if you don't actually want it
I guess that is my issue. I don't want to "get better" whatever that means.
T. OP

>>82790670
>i'd think a prostitue would be both cheaper and more dignified though
true, true

>>82790477 (OP)
just quit therapy and keep drinking

>>82790703
Thank you Jim E Brown, I just might.

>>82790754
more people should take example from the new king of rock n roll

>>82790477 (OP)
>Is therapy just a scam?
Yes but you need to experience the scam to fully comprehend it

>>82790849
So what is the alternative? Just keeping boozing it up?

>>82790995
yes, look at the bright side: one day you will die from the drinking without the need to kys

>>82791013
That would be the plan yes. But a family member died this summer of alcohol abuse. Wasn't pretty. There's probably cleaner ways to kms.

>>82791013
>t drunkard

No it's not a scam, but you won't see benefit from it without years of practice.
It's called meta cognition. Thinking about thinking. It's not easy to do at first, and may be impossible for NPCs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacognition

>>82791251
I think that most robots think about thinking all the time, it's a fact that therapy is a scam, why most people that do it go to therapy for years and the only result they get is more meds prescriptions?

>>82791300
No, you're ruminating. You're letting emotions direct your thinking. This is where you let your thinking happen and ask yourself about how it started why you're thinking it.

>>82790477 (OP)
No, it's not a scam. It's been proven to work. It just isn't instant. It requires discipline. It's a brain training regimen. Just like you train your body at the gym. Do you instantly look like Schwarzenegger after going to the gym once and doing bicep curls? No. You see no difference at first. You have to keep doing it over and over for many months to even start noticing small changes. But then, suddenly, you notice you're buff and start getting compliments. It's the same way with these mental exercises, anon. Your brain forms patterns of thinking and behavior over a lifetime, and it's very difficult and time-consuming to undo them, but it is possible.

You would benefit a lot from learning about neurology in your spare time and understanding why the brain gets stuck in patterns. I do completely understand how pointless it can feel when you're already suicidal, which is why having someone there to assist you can be a massive help. Just like having a personal trainer, think of your therapist like a personal trainer for your mind.

Also, the fact that you are drinking to drown out your emotions means you are actually not dealing with them. It's an avoidant behavior. Your emotions are too negative and painful, so you drink.

I'll tell you one exercise that's helped me - on a daily basis, or preferably multiple times a day, simply sit still and write out all the thoughts you're having. You might be surprised how much poison your brain is attacking you with, without you even noticing. This is one of the first steps I took to erasing my negative thought loops. And yes, it worked.

>>82791352
On the off chance that you are a human and not an AI reply. I appreciate your time and input. Thank you.
We'll see how long I go through with this CBT thing. The meds have left me hopeless in the sense that I've gotten to the realisation pills wont fix me. So hopefully this can, but I guess I need to give it some time.

>>82790477 (OP)
that's like asking if blood transfusions are a scam. It depends what your issue is. Have you lost a lot of blood? A transfusion will probably help. Won't fix your broken leg though
CBT is the same way. It will help with anxiety disorders, but probably won't do much for depression or personality disorders
the real issue is that the average therapist these days (26 year old midwit white woman with a savior complex) has no idea what they're doing

>>82791013
or you know, you could try stop being a sad sack and get attractive and get a family

CBT helped me for OCD, psychoanalysis (or at least it seems like it, I don't exactly know her approach) helps me for anxiety and depression/sadness/angst. I think this question was a good one. Can you identify why you are feeling like that? Can't you find a reason or do you find this question absurd? Then say that to him/her. Therapy is a dialectical process.