Thread 82791623

This one image single-handedly proves the blackpill. Just be hot and tall if you want women to swear undying fealty to you, even if you mistreat them greatly.

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>>82791623 (OP)
How is Lookism a blackpill? Plastic surgery exists.

Losers should be relieved to discover really nothing else mattered except looks and a modicum of social competence.

>>82793035
>spend thousands of dollars to look fake and plastic just for your girlfriend to see old photos of you, immediately destroying the illusion

>>82793035
>How is Lookism a blackpill? Plastic surgery exists.

The problem is that imposes transaction time.

Time to earn money to get leg lengthening surgery. Time to get the surgery and heal. Time to gain 40 pounds of muscle. Time to earn money to get surgery to fix my face. Time to get the surgery and heal. Time to transplant myself to an entirely new social setting where no one knows what I was before. Time to rebuild a social identity in that new location.

Time time time time time.

I can't win, because all those things only really help me if I get them NOW. If I am "better" in ten years from now, I still lose.

>>82793511
>Time to gain 40 pounds of muscle
For 40 pounds you should also add the cost of steroids, you'll need them unless you're a genetic freak.

>Time to transplant myself to an entirely new social setting where no one knows what I was before. Time to rebuild a social identity in that new location.
Legal name change would probably be needed to, even then if someone really wants to find your old name they can.

>>82793511
this is a loser mentality:

this will take an indefinite amount of time and effort, therefore I shall not invest such and will instead give up

fucking loser

>>82794205
yeah. well having a lose mentality is justified in some scenerios. not everyone can be a winner

if you are in last place in a race, and the race is 95% done, you are a loser. accept it. lots of people here are 30+ and virgins. and when they were young they had undesireable traits like ugly, shy, autistic, short, etc

this place is for losers and they're justified in accepting their loser nature

>bro just wage and get ripped and get hight surgery so you can attract some ran through roastie and be able to afford prostitutes

id take being a loser, thank

if pussy didnt come natural for you in school, you missed out on something you cant work towards getting

>>82794205
Have you seriously never heard of the phrase "know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em"? It's justified to not spend your young years wageslaving to get expensive surgeries that can easily be discovered by anyone, spend a bunch of time gaining muscle and taking exogenous hormones, and changing your entire life for a woman who is ready to "settle down" after ignoring your type for years in favor of having sex with the sexy Chad.

>fucking loser
The real loser is you. You're advocating for all of that trouble for a dogshit return on investment. Maybe to a real beta male like you, having a used up whore is a positive, but to us men that have self-respect and standards, it's not worth it.

>>82794291
>not everyone can be a winner
and the ones who will be losers are the ones who were too cowardly to die trying and just gave up

>they're justified in accepting their loser nature
losers are pretty much never pitiable

>>bro just wage and get ripped and get hight surgery so you can attract some ran through roastie and be able to afford prostitutes
nice and provable excuse for not giving a shot

>>82794437
>It's justified to not spend your young years wageslaving to get expensive surgeries that can easily be discovered by anyone, spend a bunch of time gaining muscle and taking exogenous hormones, and changing your entire life for a woman who is ready to "settle down" after ignoring your type for years in favor of having sex with the sexy Chad.
When you reach an old age, you're not going to look back fondly on all the time you spent playing games, watching porn, and arguing with people on the internet. You're going to be filled with regret that you wasted time on things you knew would never be fulfilling instead of gambling your time and effort on a better life to be proud of. What did you have to lose? False comfort.

>>82791623 (OP)
Oh wow women like tall men this is new information thanks anon if only this had been undisputed fact for millennia

>>82795093
>When you reach an old age, you're not going to look back fondly on all the time you spent playing games, watching porn, and arguing with people on the internet. You're going to be filled with regret that you wasted time on things you knew would never be fulfilling instead of gambling your time and effort on a better life to be proud of. What did you have to lose? False comfort.
I work, go to college, exercise when I can, am not socially awkward, and have asked girls out before. I play video games Maybe 2 hours at night with my close high school friends. The only way your copium works is if you characterize me as a lowlife NEET because that's all it is: copium. You are so invested in whatever your ideal is (from the looks of it, being approved by women in the wrong way) that you just have to assume things about me to make your arguments worm post-hoc.

Please self-reflect on how blind you are.

>>82795102
Women deny that looks are all that matters constantly.

>>82795405
Many also deny the heightpill which is equally as laughable.

>>82791623 (OP)
>Damn, I love it when people generalise based on one or two screenshots from an app created for farming attention. This is undisputedly indicative of wider trends.

>>82795478
500k likes on Tik Tok is well above average

>>82795093
>You're going to be filled with regret that you wasted time on things you knew would never be fulfilling instead of gambling

>caring about what hiveminded whores think
>in 2025

all moids are the same. if you're going to lose your virginity (which i personally refuse to do), why not choose based on looks? the only other thing to choose based off of is money
moids themselves say that "men are simple creatures who only want food and sex" and "all men will commit rape if they think they can get away with it"

>>82795405
moids are the ones who do this. kys

>>82795492
Even if 10 times more people liked it and all were individual women, that would still be only around 0.1% of the female population.

I think it's hard to image how much 4.1 billion is and how few are those gender war slop accounts you see on social media.

>>82791623 (OP)

It's kind of interesting how no one ever points out that the female sex drive + feminist liberation ideology + the simps who enable their behavior will collectively cause Western Civilization to experience a process of feralization. A return to the primitive:

>Women like tall chads with dark triad traits
>Those men are inherently less pro-social and, due to the genetic element of dark triad characteristics, will often have sons and daughters with similar negative personalities.
>Culture shifts as aggressive, short-sighted "r selected" individuals become more common.
>The new culture is inherently harmful to high IQ, introverted, "K selected" individuals.
>The latter are pushed by cultural forces into social "ghettos" and this accelerates their removal from the gene pool.
>The new culture views any man who attempts to point this out as weak and attacks him with sexual shaming language aka "you're an incel loser."
>The White Nationalist and AltRight types are unable to admit to themselves that the White underclass is growing and becoming ever more similar to stereotypical Blacks and Browns and that this is largely due to the sexual choices of working class White women.
>The upper middle class tries to insulate itself from the degeneracy, send their daughters to college and when they're finally done with school and have a stable job they're 28 and have 1 child.
>Meanwhile "Janah from Perkins" - is a White single mom with 3 kids from 2(?) Baby Daddies.
>Their kids go to the same public school, and the White trash kids make the culture there exhausting for the upper middle class ones.
>The true elite / rich send their kids to private schools and are unaware of most of what's happening until the process has reached a critical stage.
>American culture, founded on 18th century Enlightenment values and muh-blank-slate, has no solution.

>>82795405
I feel like we are past this and women now just admit they only want the hottest guys, I haven't heard "personality" or "looks don't really matter" copes from women in at least 5 years

>>82795647
that's just the idiocracy intro. the problem is that it's assuming every smart person can't or won't fuck. the issue is that retards have been fine, and essentially coddled with make-work jobs and social programs and so on. as soon as resources start to run thin, the smarter individuals will quickly pull ahead as they always have historically, which is why mankind has not gone extinct and fallen into a permanent dark age every other time women got rights. this point then is basically just the "hard men make good times" meme but it's true

>>82795562
>that would still be only around 0.1% of the female populat ion.
Do you think every woman in the world is going to see a single Tik Tok video? 500k likes is a lot on tik tok

>>82794205
>this is a loser mentality:
>this will take an indefinite amount of time and effort, therefore I shall not invest such and will instead give up
>fucking loser

No, it's the admission that ONE SPECIFIC thing can't be achieved in any worthwhile fashion because of the transaction costs: defeating the blackpill.

The poster I was answering wrote:

>How is Lookism a blackpill? Plastic surgery exists.

...and I'm arguing with specifically that. I can't defeat Lookism, because the transaction time to do so means that I won't be good looking when I'm young, and you only really defeat the blackpill if you defeat it when you are young. If you defeat the blackpill when you are 40, you still lost, because you can't undo the fact that IT BEAT YOU from the time you were 13 until you were 40.

Since I am not good looking NOW, I can never experience being young and good looking. That's already over. It is completely forestalled as a possibility, because of time time time time time.

I can do other things with my life and I can win in other ways, but I cannot win in THAT WAY. That is already over. So "plastic surgery existing" does not help me.

>>82795478
>>82795562
are you denying that height and looks are basically all that matter?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020
>women are not only more selective, but also more consistent, than men, in their partner height preferences. Women prefer, on average, a larger height difference between themselves and their partner men do... women are most satisfied when their partner was 21 cm taller, whereas men are most satisfied when they were 8 cm taller than their partner

https://www.mdpi.com/2673-4168/1/3/17
>Our study also identified that the vast majority (84%) preferred a romantic partner taller than them

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S019188691530060X
>A greater height difference in a couple was positively related to the wife's happiness. This relationship gradually weakened over time and entirely dissipated by 18 years of marital duration.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00570.x
>Men's attraction was correlated with 12 characteristics including partner's conservatism, all Big Five dimensions except openness, anxiety, and self-esteem. For women, only two partner characteristics showed a correlation: physical attractiveness and sport activity.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2394562/
>fertile-phase women were particularly sexually attracted to men perceived as arrogant, intrasexually confrontative, muscular and physically attractive, no cycle shifts were observed in women's attraction to men seen to be successful financially, intelligent or kind and warm. Men who appeared to be sexually faithful were less sexually attractive to fertile-phase women

>>82795543
refer to above studies also

>Results indicated that 62% of women have had a rape fantasy.
https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc9118/#description-content-main

>>82795699
too many niggas on this board are not tapped into the broader discourse at all and seemingly exclusively just fester in this ghetto still mired in talking points formulated a decade ago

>>82795431
the height question was solved last decade even in meme format

if you're below 6ft tall you will struggle increasingly immensely; if you're 6ft tall and above you have the physical tools needed for success already

there's nothing there to debate

>>82796019
exactly, refer to >>82795999. le academia kekarino

>>82796002
jamal would you just shut your fucking mouth, retard? holy fucking shit

>>82796037
cuz you can't handle the truth? nah

>>82796019
lmfao at that cope from tall ugly retards. how many times do i have to explain to you shut in retarded ugly incels that don't leave your houses? the first priority for women is face. if they are ~5'7 or above, they will want to fuck him right on the spot in the store or wherever if he's an ~8.4/10+. you uglycels on here are looking for ways around the looks gate and there is no way around that gate other than through it with great looks. i'm sorry to hear that you're ugly, i really am...

>>82796062
both matter. that is undeniable

>>82796062
and also important to add to my original post is that no fucking height on the planet can save a man who is truly ugly. see how dashing looks are accepted as long as they aren't a midget? but also see how no dashing height allows for an exception for an ugly man?

>>82796062
I am 5'7" and handsome enough to be told I should model by multiple different people and yet I haven't had interest from more than one woman in several years.

Height > Face

>>82796110
>if you're hideous then you will have a hard time dating
wow really? such a low bar. studies show that height matters, face matters, and athleticism matters (less compared to the other two).

>>82796110
>but also see how no dashing height allows for an exception for an ugly man?
nope, I don't
irl tall dudes usually have a woman at their side, no matter how mid they themselves look

>>82796131
Most people are not Perfect 10's, this is about the starting probability of success across all noted metrics as ranked hierarchically by order of importance.

>>82791623 (OP)
youre right, a single picture which appeals to a certain type of people because of the algorithm on a platform which appeals to a certain type of people overall is indicitive of all women.

if youre absolutely fundamentally and legitimately fucking retarded

>>82795999
wow! averages in ideal circumstances, i guess this must mean all women equally in real life! this must be indicative of all women!

if youre absolutely fundamentally and legitimately fucking retarded
christ, you people would be funny if you so cringingly fucking pathetic

>>82796174
>a single picture
you're just a newfag tourist

>>82796174
>i guess this must mean all women equally in real life! this must be indicative of all women!
picrel

>if youre absolutely fundamentally and legitimately fucking retarded
christ, you people would be funny if you so cringingly fucking pathetic
you are genuinely malding. in response to peer-reviewed published studies and real survyes, you call me names? that is pure emotion. you just cannot accept the facts, that is why you are so angry. also, you have awful grammar so you are either extremely emotional right now, you are intoxicated, or english is not your first language.

>>82795699
>>82796002
It depends on the age group. Millenial women still say "UMMM IT'S CALLED BEING A DECENT PERSON, SWEATY". Xoomettes will tell you some shit about how "sex is about connection and trust", maybe even deny that they get horny for chad and have casual sex. Zoomettes are as blackpilled as their male counterparts and are openly chadsexual.
There are exceptions, but generally that's how it goes.

>>82796137
That's because tall men are a status symbol that women boast about, it's not necessarily genuine sex appeal. The key to sex appeal is in the face.

>>82796335
not true. women like height differences because
1. they erroneously associate height with athletic ability
2. they are autopedophiles and want to feel like children to their partners

>>82796217
>>82796219

for sure, you guys know so much and are so smart. ill have to keep how smart you are in mind while youre trapped in a prison of misery of your own creation

for fuck sake second guy, you actually keep pictures like that saved on your computer. do you know how mentally far gone you have to be to do shit like that? can you even comprehend how fucked youve chosen to be?

>>82796377
>you posted an image on an image board how dare you!!!!!
you are an actual retard.

>for sure, you guys know so much and are so smart. ill have to keep how smart you are in mind while youre trapped in a prison of misery of your own creation
so you dont deny the findings of the studies?

>>82796369
They like height differences ON CHAD. If you're tall but you lack a beautiful face then they see it as wasted genes. They feel the same way about huge dicks too. They like huge dicks ON CHAD.

>>82791623 (OP)
Gay men are superior in every way. Let Chad focus on breeding and be done with this bullshit

>>82796414
an average-faced tall man will get more women than an average-faced average- height man who will get more women than an average-faced short man, generally.

>>82796447
Women think average male faces are ugly. They think 58% of men are "significantly below average", i.e. severely unattractive.

>>82796465
damn, another study to add to the collection. regardless, if face is kept constant then height will still matter.

>>82796465
"Average" is no longer good enough. You have to be above average in all aspects in order to get what you want in life in this day and age.

>>82796465
could you provide the actual source? im trying to verify

>>82796400
>you posted an image on an image board how dare you!!!!!
its the type of image, which you would have understood if you possessed the capacity for basic human understanding
> so you dont deny the findings of the studies?
I already explained what was wrong, which you would have understood if you possessed the capacity for basic human understanding

okay thats enough time wasted on you 'people', have fun being miserable and patting yourself on the back for being right after im gone

100% chance you will

>>82793035
>Plastic surgery exists.
For height?

>>82796586
>its the type of image, which you would have understood if you possessed the capacity for basic human understanding
>I already explained what was wrong, which you would have understood if you possessed the capacity for basic human understanding
you need a capacity for understanding that facts do not care about your feelings. argue with the authors
>okay thats enough time wasted on you 'people', have fun being miserable and patting yourself on the back for being right after im gone
>100% chance you will
crybaby bitch conceded kek

>>82796601
yes, although it's so traumatic it's best held off as an absolute last resort if all-else has failed to bring you sexual and romantic success

>>82795999
Women are repulsed by normal men and attracted to alpha males. There might not be humans at all if female mammals were not primarily attracted to alpha males.

>>82795079
>losers are pretty much never pitiable
blacks are the losers of history and people shower them in pity

>>82797124
stop comparing human sexuality to animal standards. if humans were really animalistic then most of us would rape females and leave them to raise the kids on their own. the amount of species that are actually good fathers is so hilariously low compared to absent or even dangerous fathers

Reminder that blackpill is gay psyops. Faggots lie to you hoping to turn you gay.

>>82797589
> tfw when mom swims off into the horizon after only feeding you for a week

>>82791623 (OP)
there are two kinds of men
>chad
>not chad
and two kinds of women
>the ones who will lie about this and then only fuck chad
>the ones who will tell the truth about this and then fuck chad as promised
If you haven't had sex or a gf yet, the door is permanently closed. In fact, there was never a door for you.

>>82797589
Rape laws filter out the ones who are capable of it but have more to lose going to prison than to gain by...having a child they'll never raise. What other species has prisons?

>>82791623 (OP)
>proves the black pill
This is just a demoralization thread
>halo effect
>attractive people get better treatment
>therefore you must be suicidal and hateful of society because attractive people exist
Fuck outta here. You didn't say anything new. Attractive people do in fact exist, they get preferential treatment, if the roles were reversed men would 100 percent be more forgiving or receptive to attractive women because they want to fuck.

>>82798002
>men would 100 percent be more forgiving or receptive to attractive women because they want to fuck
This already happens. You think it doesn't because female attractiveness is far more subjective. Some men like tall women and others like short women, simply because that's how they feel. No women like short guys except as an endstage fetish when they're 39.999999 and realize they will get age discriminated out of their fake email job with free snacks sooner rather than later and need a new scam (marrying a betabux prey animal).