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Anonymous No.82795836 >>82795841 >>82795844 >>82795847 >>82796010 >>82796051 >>82796055 >>82796132 >>82796237 >>82796247 >>82796280 >>82796316 >>82796320 >>82796350 >>82796422 >>82796537 >>82796545 >>82796547 >>82796661 >>82796675 >>82796761 >>82796951 >>82796980 >>82797015
is bodycount literally just a meme?
no guy has ever asked. none of them care when i bring up if my ex was better or worse at something. i think u guys are uniquely insecure.
Anonymous No.82795841 >>82795852
>>82795836 (OP)
baaaaaiiiiiit

DTMXW
Anonymous No.82795844 >>82795852
>>82795836 (OP)
normie men dont care. in the real world, these things dont actually matter, and no one cares. dont listen to shit in this echochamber of neuroticism
Anonymous No.82795847 >>82795852
>>82795836 (OP)
>No guy has ever asked
They just assume its high. They know its not zero and thats all that matters.
Anonymous No.82795852 >>82795858 >>82795864 >>82795980 >>82797072
>>82795841
ok
>>82795844
ty anon
>>82795847
if we're fucking of course it's not 0. virgin girls can't fuck anyways lol
Anonymous No.82795858
>>82795852
>Ofcourse its not zero if we fuck
What a silly sentence
Anonymous No.82795864
>>82795852
>virgin girls can't fuck anyways lol
Actual men don't want someone who will fuck them. They want a wife.
If they wanted to get fucked they'd go mess with the state
Anonymous No.82795980
>>82795852
Virgin girl are better at sex. If you develop a good, long and secure relationship people get more open about what they like and they are more free to say what is not good, etc... A girl who fuck around and don't develop relationship are just reexperiencing the same thing again and again without evolving and changing their method. Whores can't fuck
Anonymous No.82796010
>>82795836 (OP)
no one wants to treat a whore who has been cummed inside a bunch of times like a princess or theri wife lol
Anonymous No.82796029 >>82796053 >>82796059 >>82796354
Basically this, only incels care about body count because they know they suck at sex and don't want you to have any comparison. They're also likely selfish partners in general and don't want do things like eat pussy and they know if you have other relationships you'll know that isn't cool.

Don't listen to any bullshit about pair bonding either, you can pair bond just fine no matter if you're a virgin or have had 100 guys before. Women today just don't want to pair bond with some loser when they can do so much better.
Anonymous No.82796051 >>82796056
>>82795836 (OP)
do johns care about a hookers tally?
Anonymous No.82796053
>>82796029
>incels care about body count because they know they suck at sex and don't want you to have any comparison
Yes but I'd settle with a patient partner.
>They're also likely selfish partners in general and don't want do things like eat pussy
That's one of the main things I want to do. I can get myself off easily enough, I want to get someone else off.
Anonymous No.82796055
>>82795836 (OP)
>i think u guys are uniquely insecure.
No we just have standards. Most normie men do not. A lot of us are single virgins not because we are incels as much as because we won't settle.

The biggest lie we tell ourselves is that women will lose because of xyz.
Anonymous No.82796056
>>82796051
ironically enough a hooker might have a lower count than some of the tinder thots out there.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796059 >>82796074 >>82796081 >>82796133 >>82796388 >>82796776
>>82796029
i never understood the obsession with "0 body count" because damn they're gonna suck at sex
Anonymous No.82796074 >>82796109
>>82796059
>i never understood the obsession with "0 body count" because damn they're gonna suck at sex
Only temporarily. It only takes one guy to train a girl to his liking, not 30. if anything being able to start with a fresh save sounds like more fun despite the work.
Anonymous No.82796081 >>82796109 >>82796388
>>82796059
because they will still get off even if the women dead fishes. all they care about is their orgasm, not hers at all.
blackmagic No.82796099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRbC56BA-fg&start_radio=1&pp=ygUJYm9keWNvdW50
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796109 >>82796148
>>82796074
idk one reason why i'm super insecure about being a virgin is making mistakes/sucking at it and then made fun of
>>82796081
yeah true
Anonymous No.82796132
>>82795836 (OP)
id rather not know. intellectually i dont care but if i hear a number i might not like it on a visceral emotional level
if she is good at sex im gonna assume she has had a few but i just dont think about it
my ex admitted to me that she did porn before and that didnt bother me
Anonymous No.82796133 >>82796141
>>82796059
its about having a special bond with someone are u stupid
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796141
>>82796133
i don't think you're incapable of having a bond with somebody after having sex a couple of times
frankly, i've never had sex and i don't think i'm able to bond with people like that
wtf does this mean for me......
blackmagic No.82796142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnn0Spbqv4&list=RDeRnn0Spbqv4&start_radio=1&pp=ygUTYm9keWNvdW50IGJvcm4gZGVhRKAHAQ%3D%3D
Anonymous No.82796148 >>82796193
>>82796109
>idk one reason why i'm super insecure about being a virgin is making mistakes/sucking at it and then made fun of
lol. OP is right that most men will accept high body count women, but that doesn't change that fact that if given a choice most men looking for a serious relationship would choose the virgin. To us the trouble of training a virgin is worth not having other men around us who can say they had our girl's tongue up their ass.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796193 >>82796211 >>82796248
>>82796148
from just existing irl i can tell that most men don't care but honestly i cannot imagine being with a girl who sucks at sex
maybe that's just because i'm insecure, idk? it doesn't bother me to know if my bf had other women before me
Anonymous No.82796211 >>82796234
>>82796193
yea bro u should go to the club and whore urself out about to make ur future bf happy sounds like a good idea i mean it sounds good to you so!!! go for it
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796234
>>82796211
um! where did i say any of that!!
Anonymous No.82796237
>>82795836 (OP)
I won't ask your body count if you don't ask about my porn consumption.

Does that sound fair?
Anonymous No.82796247
>>82795836 (OP)
I've had some guys who vocally care, some who pretend not to care but they talk shit behind my back, and some who don't care at all. My current bf doesn't care in the slightest but sadly he's also not a very sexual person and it's complicating things
Anonymous No.82796248 >>82796268
>>82796193
>from just existing irl i can tell that most men don't care but honestly
You mistake men not having a choice with men not caring. Men accepting it doesn't mean they don't care. Most men literally do not have a choice in the matter, we'd sooner fuck a 10/10 than a virgin because women start having sex so young.

Just look at the Travis Hunter situation. The whole internet roasted him for months because the woman he was about to marry had her sexual past on display. Same with logan Paul. Men care, we just don't have a choice. Its literally accept used goods, or die a virgin.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796268 >>82796301 >>82796320 >>82796507
>>82796248
>used goods
oh............
wait are non-virginal men used also? i can fuck with this analogy if there's some consistency in the logic at least
Anonymous No.82796280
>>82795836 (OP)
We don't care. It's not like you are getting to get proposed to anyways, so it does not matter.
Anonymous No.82796301 >>82796312
>>82796268
>wait are non-virginal men used also?
Most women don't see it that way because they prefer men who have fucked, not virgins.

If a man could choose between a virgin and a woman with 20 bodies, all others things being equal, most would choose the virgin. With women its the exact opposite. Men value purity and innocence, women value experience.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796312 >>82796384
>>82796301
oh okay so technically yes they are "used goods" nvm i can at least respect the consistency
i just have a hard time believing my first bf would appreciate my bumbling attempts at sex. it would be awkward and horrible and i'd never want to be seen again
Anonymous No.82796316
>>82795836 (OP)
They are scared of the answer and/or don't wanna set off red flags even though they wish they knew.
Anonymous No.82796320 >>82796338 >>82796563
>>82795836 (OP)
>>82796268
You don't understand because you cannot conceive of yourself as an animal doing animal things. Your motivations, emotions, and thoughts are all obscured too you through the lens of your self. But could you step outside yourself and view these things from the perspective of a neutral observer you would understand.

It's all just stupid hairless apes playing out their biological imperative strategies. Women don't care about body count because they know a child coming out of their vagina will always have 50% of their DNA. A man doesn't want his woman to have any sexual partners but him so he can be reasonably sure any children carry his DNA. A man also doesn't hold himself to the same standards of body count because he wants to maximize his reproductive potential by impregnating as many females as he can. The corollary to this is that women expect a man who is their husband to be only giving his resources and time to her since she is burdened with carrying his child.

So it is and has been for many many animals. Not all but among most particularly mammals.

But knowing these things but not really comprehending them, you can all only jibber jabber back and forth poorly articulating questions and answers at each other without ever fully comprehending any of it.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796338 >>82796428 >>82796507
>>82796320
well put into the ape perspective i get why it is this way, i just think it's uncool to view people as lesser for something like that
preferences are totally fine, i have my own
Anonymous No.82796350
>>82795836 (OP)
I hide my power level. Don't you?
Anonymous No.82796354
>i talk about my ex
>these guys don't care about my number!
>you're all insecure!

Lol. Why would a guy care about the bodycount of some whore?
>Oh no the who fucked this whore before me did X!
>KEK I bet she'll tell the next guy something about me too, what a bitch
He's using you as a convenient sex outlet. It's not worth the hassle of rocking the boat for a temporary consumable.

>>82796029
>you can pair bond just fine no matter if you're a virgin or have had 100 guys before.
If you've gone through 9 guys, and feel the heartrending pain of a break up each time, I highly doubt you're willing to do the same a 10th time. And if you're not experiencing the pain of a breakup upon separation, then no in fact you're not pair bonded.
Anonymous No.82796384 >>82796416
>>82796312
>i just have a hard time believing my first bf would appreciate my bumbling attempts at sex.
Its better than having a gf that was used by other men.

My friend's first gf was actually a virgin. He said the difference was that he felt way more territorial over her, he had a greater sense of her belonging to him. He did everything for her, changed his whole way of life for her.

Point is the appeal of the virgin is not the sex, its the feeling that she is only yours, which allows you to give yourself more fully.
Anonymous No.82796388 >>82796416
>>82796059
Oh no! I get to teach her exactly what I like!
How horrible!

>>82796081
they don't care about hers at all
You fucking idiots don't even realize the logic of what you're saying. How does she learn what to do?
If it's via being taught, then you (presumed husband) can teach her.
If it's via experimentation, then she can experiment with you.
There is NOTHING that another man can do to or for her that I can't. And if I'm not willing to do it, for instance choking or BDSM or anal or whatever, then I don't want that being in her repertoire anyway.
Why do you assume that it's only other men who can teach her and not the one she marries?

What man will look at his wife while she's sucking him off and think "golly gee this is swell, I'm sure glad those 27 men helped her practice this".
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796416 >>82796483 >>82796598
>>82796384
>>82796388
idk maybe i can put this into words for once but this kind of logic is why i'm scared of having sex
i can do everything right and end up fucked over and become "used goods", and while i dont think this is true, if most people think this way then why bother engaging with sex at all? it seems like i lose no matter what
Anonymous No.82796422
>>82795836 (OP)
turns out incel-level thinkers are insecure

...no shit
Anonymous No.82796428 >>82796442
>>82796338
Well of course you think it's bad from your perspective. Don't you get it? Did you really read all that and still not understand?

When someone has a vested interest in seeing things from a certain perspective of course they aren't going to understand someone else holding a different opinion of that same subject.

Why don't we view cannibalism as not a big deal? Other culture throughout history didn't have a problem with it. How come we do? Why is it bad to steal from people but stealing milk from a cow or honey from bees is A-Okay?

What you think about anything doesn't have any bearing or meaning. Your thoughts are just an expression of whatever rational self interest and cultural programming are bouncing around your "mind" at any given moment. Say you got in a plane crash in the swiss alps and were starving to death and the only food left was the semi frozen bodies of other passengers, you might change your opinion on cannibalism then.

Did your rational free will make that call, or was it simple hunger and the fear of death? And that is literally every fucking single possible thought that anyone has ever had about ANYTHING.
>I think {thing} is bad because it serves my interests to consider thing bad
>I think {thing} is good because it serves my interests to consider thing good
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796442 >>82796658 >>82796816
>>82796428
no i read all of it and i just think it's bad to base the worth of people on how many people they sleep with
this doesn't serve my interests whatsoever either because i am a virgin and i don't plan on having sex anytime soon
Anonymous No.82796483 >>82796531
>>82796416
>i can do everything right and end up fucked over and become "used goods"
Yeah but that's just being like 95% of women. Being a virgin just means you have something special that puts you in a different category, and if you play it right you can have a better bonding experience with your man. But being used goods won't prevent you from getting good relationships.
Anonymous No.82796507 >>82796531
>>82796268
>are men also used goods
The term doesn't really apply because historically there was the whole hymen issue which served as a "proof" of sorts. And biologically women and fags have a much easier time catching STDs because mucous membranes are porous.
However nowadays one could argue that men do get "damaged" by bad relationships. A girl cheats on a man, he starts calling all women bitches and whores, etc. Now, the term there would be "damaged goods", which also applies to women, and isn't the same as "used goods", so to answer your question yes and no.

>>82796338
It's not really a matter of preferences. Preferences are merely a matter of "what (you) like". Redheads or blondes would be a preferences. Fat or not fat could be either a preference or a standard. Standard being something like "how could you let yourself go, take care of yourself, etc."
But virginity and other such things live inside the head in a different way, and it's not insecurity. I recently thought of a good example so I'll share it.
If you weren't aware, death of a child and miscarriages are a large cause of divorces / separation. Abortion too but that's a different nuance many times because there's the element of choice there. Looking at the other person and having the thought of "Does he resent me for not being able to carry our son to term?" or "Our baby girl died... Every time I look at my wife I see her face and it rends my heart..." Even if no one's to blame there are higher stats of separation because you can't stop the background thoughts due to [advanced psychology I won't bother getting into].
For men, virginity is a similar (but less potent) issue. Ask any boyfriend if he would have rather you not had any exes and I assure you he would say yes unless he's a cuck. Most men don't really have a choice so they do their best not to talk about it.
Women who bring up their exes despite that are vile.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796531 >>82796658
>>82796483
>Yeah but that's just being like 95% of women.
okay but that sucks and i don't like it!!!! i don't want my entire value to be based on whether or not my body had something inside of it before!!!

>>82796507
this whole board blackpills me further and further into never ever having sex or dating for life
why engage in the game when i lose no matter what
Anonymous No.82796537
>>82795836 (OP)
>Why do all the people I date who are manwhores not care that I'm a womanwhore, but all virgin guys want virgin girls???

Fixed that for you.
Anonymous No.82796545
>>82795836 (OP)
to a lot of people it is I think but to me it's not. I'm weird about intamacy. I care that a future partner would feel similar. I understand this condemns me to a life alone. It is what it is.
Anonymous No.82796547
>>82795836 (OP)
I've always been of the don't ask don't tell policy
bodycount is the kind of shit you ask your bf/gf when the relationship is getting stale and you kinda want another excuse to argue and get mad and insecure
Anonymous No.82796560
It's always incels who focus so much on it. They're incels for a reason.
Anonymous No.82796563
>>82796320
>A man doesn't want his woman to have any sexual partners but him so he can be reasonably sure any children carry his DNA.
There's a difference between being cheated on & potentially fathering someone else's kid, and a guy she used to date 3 years ago.
Anonymous No.82796598 >>82796632
>>82796416
>idk maybe i can put this into words for once but this kind of logic is why i'm scared of having sex
You should be scared. But I'll dial down my generalized rage at society and address you specifically in an act of good faith, especially since I'm taking you at your word here in:re being a virgin and it's not that I hate women, I hate promiscuous women.
And also because
>can do everything right and end up fucked over and become "used goods"
This happened to me. I dated someone, had sex, she broke up with me, and I'll skip details here but it messed with me pretty badly. My REEEing is to use my own story as warning to others. Regardless of if you think pairbonding lessens or not with more partners, I don't think most people would contest that sex bonds you to a person. And so if you have sex with someone who's not a good match, it does things like "make you stay in a relationship with them longer than you should have", "make the inevitable break up much more messy and painful", etc. And God help you if you get pregnant and have to deal now with the terror of a broken family or mental scar of killing your own child.
It's potential long term problems for short term pleasure, something society has always grappled with,not even factoring in things like babies, abortion (which damages women's bodies), STDs, etc.
Again, there's a reason society for most of civilized history was "wait till marriage before sex".
Did pre-marital sex happen? Of course, teenagers are notoriously horny. But it was greatly curtailed and also marriage rate was much higher to alleviate said pressure.
Anyway.
I don't have an idea on the exact numbers, but perhaps most men would fall into the "don't care" category. Yeah, they would probably prefer you to be a virgin, but if you aren't, whatever. Virgins are rare enough, and men tend to take what they can get. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796632 >>82796681 >>82796749
>>82796598
>You should be scared.
i will never ever engage with this ever, my schizo thoughts are off the charts
>I'll skip details here but it messed with me pretty badly.
ah :[ i'm really sorry you experienced this. this is what i'm really really really scared of myself
>It's potential long term problems for short term pleasure.
i think everything else then on i mostly agree with. i just don't understand why the weight is on women when men are the other half of the puzzle. perhaps i wouldn't be so schizo about intimacy if the scales were balanced. idk.
Anonymous No.82796658 >>82796730
>>82796531
>why engage in the game
As a part two to my post above (you should be able to recognize my typing style), the reason for sex is obvious:
It feels good, it bonds you to a partner, and obviously it makes babies which most people tend to want. It's a "natural act", once you get a bf things will naturally gravitate to that point.
I'm not saying sex and bonding and etc. is bad. It's good. But it's good in the way that fire is good.
Fire good. Fire keep you warm. Fire warm you when cold. Fire pretty at night.
But fire burn skin if touch body. Fire ruin home when uncontrolled.
Fire isn't good or bad. Controlled fire is good, uncontrolled fire is bad.
Replace fire with lust or sex or even love. Uncontrolled love is bad, it stops you from seeing and judging a situation responsibly.
My brother refuses to trim his dog's nails because she doesn't like it and he refuses to "stress her out" by forcing it. That kind of "love" is obviously bad (and she scratched me the other day when I tried REEEE).

>>82796442
>just think it's bad to base the worth of people on how many people they sleep with
I can show you studies on how tattoos correlate very well with things like planning and decision making. Statistically, via hard evidence, those with tattoos do not do as well in life compared to those without them.
Is it "wrong" to judge people with tattoos? Up to you.
I wouldn't date someone fat, nor a druggie, nor an alcoholic, nor a whore. That's not really "judging" them, that's just saying "I can reasonably guess what my life would be like with them, and I prefer it without them".

But I rambled too much, so let me tl:dr; myself.
tl:dr; sex itself isn't bad, sex outside of marriage is.
Anonymous No.82796661
>>82795836 (OP)
probably rage bait but
>i bring up if my ex was better or worse at something
is utterly deranged and careless
Anonymous No.82796675
>>82795836 (OP)
no, I don't want a girl with a high body count since I don't have one myself. It's a preference thing. I won't shame women for having high BCs; we are just fundamentally incompatible
Anonymous No.82796681 >>82796730
>>82796632
I mean like, is getting to know someone and waiting until marriage to have sex that hard? after marriage you're basically safe from becoming damaged goods or whatever, doubt you'd marry someone you dislike and about 78% of divorces are initiated by women
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796730 >>82796747 >>82796846 >>82796898
>>82796658
>>82796681
oh okay if the baseline is "wait until marriage" then i can AT least respect that as a moral standpoint for people to have
also no it isn't hard to not fuck but my husband can still choose to be a horrible person and cheat/abuse/etc way after marriage. why risk it when i'd still be "used goods" and did everything right
so tldr; i'm becoming a nun
Anonymous No.82796747 >>82796831
>>82796730
I mean like, can't really speak for others and i'm not gonna bother reading the whole rage bait thread but it's like, pretty simple for me, i'm a virgin and i only want to marry another virgin, i'm against premarital sex and do not respect those who practice it, Wouldn't date a divorcee because she isn't a virgin but like, she also isn't used goods in my book and is a respectable woman. If you've spent a few years getting to know a person and slow dating before marriage and them also being a virgin, the odds of them suddenly going "I'm gonna beat my wife/cheat on her" or whatever are pretty low i'd assume, the problem with marriages nowadays is that people just go "ok, we're getting married!" three months in i'd say
Anonymous No.82796749 >>82796831
>>82796632
>perhaps i wouldn't be so schizo about intimacy if the scales were balanced.
Keep in mind that /r9k/ is primarily the male point of view, so we complain about the things that bother us, because we're men.
Once the marriage happens, if it fails, that pressure is almost all on the man. The courts will almost always give her the kids (unless she refuses them for some reason), and blah blah.
The scales are balanced in the total field of male female dynamics, more or less, it's just that we're focusing purely on sex right now.
>i just don't understand why the weight is on women when men are the other half of the puzzle.
Why is the weight of acceptance of sex on the woman? Biology.
A woman accepts a guy's advances, gets pregnant, and is now vulnerable and has to be taken care of by SOMEONE. If she said "yes" to the wrong guy, the burden is now on her family. Remember that "welfare" wasn't really a thing historically. You become a single mother and you're in for a hard time.
>but why would other women care?
In their mind, a woman who is so loose will be liable to try to steal their own man.

There's a lot of social pressure as well on the guy; he has to approach the woman, woo her, and blah blah. All she has to do, for this dance, is say yes. So if she says yes easily, i.e. is promiscuous, it upsets the balance the sexes have historically agreed upon: the guys pursue, the women gatekeep. You may be overvaluing the weight of the "no" that you're tasked with, without really giving much thought to the weight of the "hey bby want some fuk?" the guy is tasked with.
Let's say I wanted to ask you out right now. I have to give it thought, plan, ask you out, suffer the rejection if no, the anxiety of what if, etc. Sure, I could go into the act without a plan and hope for the best, and then it becomes a numbers game, but if my heart was really set on you, then of course I would try to increase my odds. Whereas you would ultimately have to just say "sure" or "no".
Anonymous No.82796752
From my experience, it does if you are trying to find someone competent and not shallow (or a big fat pussy). It was insane the day I met these husbands with porn addiction, or married to a woman with a loose background. Pun.
Anonymous No.82796761
>>82795836 (OP)
Gfs of mine that talk about their exs disappoint me mightily. I mentally downgrade them to fuckbuddy and check out. Im not stupid enough to "bring it up" but that relationship is essentially over for anything serious.
Anonymous No.82796776 >>82796831
>>82796059
Cope, it's not a sport
Anonymous No.82796816 >>82796831
>>82796442
But when you do you envision having a casual slut phase
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796831 >>82796857 >>82796863 >>82796898
>>82796747
totally fair to want to date/marry a fellow virgin!! i think that's fair for yourself
>the odds of them suddenly going "I'm gonna beat my wife/cheat on her" or whatever are pretty low i'd assume
probably true, but never 0. and that scares me a lot!!!
>the problem with marriages nowadays is that people just go "ok, we're getting married!" three months in i'd say
realest thing ever said on this board. why do people get married so fast holy fuck
>>82796749
>Keep in mind that /r9k/ is primarily the male point of view
you right!! i just got caught in my head i think
also i meant the balanced scales thing as i would be less bothered if men were scrutinized and shamed for promiscuous behavior as women. marriage is another beast entirely
>Why is the weight of acceptance of sex on the woman? Biology.
i can't comprehend why men would want to have sex with a woman knowing that he's turning her into "used goods". tbf i know why "horny feel good" but damn. blatant disrespect and no care for your partner. fuck my life
again, i don't really disagree with anything else being said here. honestly all it does is set my resolve to never even bother because i'll always have the capacity to lose :[
>>82796776
cope with what?? i don't have sex!!!!
>>82796816
no it's with brahms as his loving, doting wife with our 20 kids. get it right!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.82796846 >>82796905 >>82796915
>>82796730
>but my husband can still choose to be a horrible person and cheat/abuse/etc way after marriage. why risk it
Now that you agree with me, it's time for me to switch it up and argue the other side :^)
Let's shelve for a moment everything about sex and pregnancy and blah blah.
Domestic violence is an option. You could marry someone and they end up simply outright killing you. Should you avoid marriage entirely then?
You could go outside on a walk and get stabbed, but you shouldn't become a shut-in. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE (and I promise this is a true story) if you're just sitting inside your house chilling, you can have a car miss his turn because he's drunk or asleep or something and veer off the road and through a field and ram into your house. It happened to my neighbor. No one was home at the time because they weren't a shut-in posting on /r9k/ but if they were, they would have been killed lol.
There are elements of risk to everything. That's not a reason to avoid the world. Though I do admit I feel like a hypocrite saying this.

What you need to do, to omit more walls of text on my end, is simple: be selective about who you date, and hold off on sex for a while until it's clear he values you and isn't trying to just fuck you. Don't just use your judgement, get your friends and family involved to vet the guy. Dating and Marriage was always a thing affecting the entire community. If you can't get them involved, then you better git gud at judging people quickly.

>ah :[ i'm really sorry you experienced this. this is what i'm really really really scared of myself
I dated a girl, she broke up with me, that should have been the end. I find out after the break up she's pregnant. I asked her if she wanted to get back together to raise it, she said no. She ended up getting an abortion.
I later find out she's dating another guy or something, so clearly not all guys care about it.
But I took it pretty hard and it took me a while to recover.
Anonymous No.82796857 >>82796905
>>82796831
Are you also autistic? also get caught up a lot in my own head whenever there's threads like this here and it feels pretty bad, big part of why i started coming to r9k less and less
Anonymous No.82796863 >>82796905
>>82796831
Our perspective is totally different. Everyone I ever dated, there was no artificial limitation on us staying together permanently. Where that didn't happen they had some unforgivable flaw which meant it couldn't happen.

Women "date" which means fucking someone they know is just temporary when they make the choice to have sex. This is why bodycount is an issue.
Anonymous No.82796867
The weird thing about the guys in those threads are LARPing like a Arabian Oil Billionaire and could buy a virgin and train her at any moment instead of sitting on the computer next to their pee bottles. They are mentally ill.
Anonymous No.82796898 >>82796976
>>82796831
>blatant disrespect and no care for your partner.
Uh. UHHH. You're overlooking something pretty important.
I have a pair of shoes. They're new shoes. I buy them, they're mine. These aren't "new" shoes, or "used" shoes, they are "my" shoes. They don't become used shoes until I get rid of them. Someone else comes along and sees my shoes, they don't really say "these are used shoes", they say "these are anon's shoes".
You're not "used goods" until you're on the market after doing the sexo. Make sense?
You have the sex, and stay with the guy, other men will see you as "anon's girl / wife / whatever".
What's disrespectful is fucking and dumping someone, not sexing them with the intention of staying with them and building a life together. But everyone agrees with that.

>>82796730
>so tldr; i'm becoming a nun
Becoming a nun isn't a bad call at all. Ultimately it's fine to have reservations about sex and dating and men. If you find a guy who cares for you, he'll hold your hand through settling your turbulent mind and easing concerns. Which, a good partner should do regardless of the type of concerns or burden you carry. And nuns are hot.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796905 >>82796931 >>82796949 >>82797010 >>82797010
>>82796846
>Domestic violence is an option. You could marry someone and they end up simply outright killing you. Should you avoid marriage entirely then?
am i crazy for saying yes, because my answer is. um. yes!!!!
i know there's risk with everything but the opportunity to get hurt by my bf/husband is a lot greater than me going outside or going to work, etc. perhaps i just weigh the cons to not be worth the pros like other people do??
>be selective about who you date, and hold off on sex for a while until it's clear he values you and isn't trying to just fuck you
i am extremely choosy for this reason!! i am very very scared but this ends up pushing 100% of people away so i think i'm fucked
>then you better git gud at judging people quickly.
ehehe this is my secret talent, i'm so cool
also, again, jfc i'm really sorry. i hope you've gotten some peace since that happened (as much as one could??) :'[
>>82796857
close, i'm schizoid. we're like cousins!!
i'm not typically stirred up but i think this topic has been something i've subconsciously ruminated on and it got me to tick
it's nice to see someone else with similar experiences to me at least :]
>>82796863
i really can't move on the point of devaluing a person based on sexual choices (er, so long as it's legal)
if you disagree, that's obviously fine. i'm not really here to argue :p
Anonymous No.82796915
>>82796846
>There are elements of risk to everything. That's not a reason to avoid the world.
Anonymous No.82796931 >>82796976
>>82796905
Well, it's nice to meet a cousin i guess, i wish you good luck in finding a husband or becoming a nun wichever you choose,if you want another sperg to talk about this kind of stuff we could be friends, if not it's fine too, hope to see you around anyway, gonna play rimworld to get my mind off this thread
Anonymous No.82796949 >>82796976
>>82796905
>perhaps i just weigh the cons to not be worth the pros like other people do??
It's a human thing.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9825526/
>Negative information weighs more heavily on the brain: the negativity bias in evaluative categorizations
What you need to do is pic related.

>but bad things can happen by interacting with other people!
Wait until I start telling you about how your brain actually physically withers due to lack of socializing with other people, and how social isolation takes YEARS off of people's lives statistically.
Again, I feel like a hypocrite for telling you this, but since I'm currently in the mode of "use my life as a lesson on what not to do", may as well go full throttle.
Don't become a shut-in.
Don't become a recluse (if you can help it).
It seems like the lesser of two evils, but unfortunately it's not. It's merely a different, equal evil.
The way forward is to build healthy relationships with people to the extent you're able to. Hoard the good people, avoid or cut out the bad people.
Anonymous No.82796951 >>82797061
>>82795836 (OP)
It's saved for later so they can come up with some arbitrary reason to dump you.
>too high
You're a whore
>too low
You're a frigid prude
You cannot win with men. The sooner you realize this the freer you'll be
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82796976 >>82797000 >>82797064
>>82796898
i suppose this kinda relies on a specific group of men who believe in "used goods" and fuck lots of women, but wouldn't this genre of man be really fucking awful if he's engaging in something he believes devalues a woman?? idk if i'm explaining this right
>If you find a guy who cares for you, he'll hold your hand through settling your turbulent mind and easing concerns.
i'm sure he exists but i haven't found him, and idk if i ever will because i'm very silly and weird
>And nuns-
FUCK YES I LOVE NUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>82796931
yayy thank you anon!! i'm always down to make friends but uhmmm i'm very very skittish
have fun on rimworld!!
>>82796949
i'm afraid i'm sorta a fringe case because i was fucked before i even had a chance to thrive
>schizoid
i can't really help being a weirdo shut-in who struggles with forming interpersonal relationships
actually this is sorta my bread and butter!!!!
Anonymous No.82796980
>>82795836 (OP)
It's fine just don't pull a Bonnie Blue and say "that's what 1067 men taste like" after they kiss you.
Anonymous No.82797000 >>82797032
>>82796976
I mean, if you want we could add each other on burners first? Again, if not it's fine, just got into trying to make friends lately after realizing i have like, 0 and thanks i will!
Anonymous No.82797010 >>82797032
>>82796905
>(er, so long as it's legal)
Why is that the sticking point to you?
If you fuck a 16yo, that may not be legal in the US but it is in Germany. And you can have sex with animals in Brazil and Canada I'm pretty sure. Sure, you can say it damages them as (some) man on animal action, but not really so for female on animal.
>why yes it's normal to stick your arm up an elephants ass sometimes for medical checkups, but don't you DARE stick your smaller penis in there!!!
Even if was legal, you would look down on a man who fucked a horse. I'm not saying you shouldn't either.
All the other anon is saying is that a similar distaste or disgust arises within him for women who sleep with many men.

>>82796905
>i hope you've gotten some peace since that happened (as much as one could??) :'[
It's much better now, thank you. Would have preferred that entire situation to have not happened ofc.

Also in:re risk assessment, instead of a random image have a /wsg/ post I just made: >>>/wsg/5998536
Anonymous No.82797015 >>82797028
>>82795836 (OP)
yes, most the moids on here are retarded
Anonymous No.82797028
>>82797015
Most foids would rather be pumped and dumped by a Chad who judges them over their body count than settle for incels who don't care
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82797032 >>82797045
>>82797000
trips holy shit.....
i don't mind!! i just don't want anyone to get upset when i go quiet (which is often)
>>82797010
oh...................!!!!!
Anonymous No.82797045
>>82797032
I mean, i've gotten ghosted a few times now making friends here, it's the usual, if you wanna give it a shot i think my old discord burner is still working 4chanburner3101
Anonymous No.82797061
>>82796951
anyone complaining that it's too low, you're just not giving them enough sex, or they were looking for another reason to get rid of you, and this stupid idea was the best they could come up with.
Anonymous No.82797064 >>82797077
>>82796976
>idk if i ever will because i'm very silly and weird
pic related
Anonymous No.82797072
>>82795852
>virgin girls can't fuck anyways lol
This is only an issue if you're doing hookups. If you're going to be with a girl for years then she'll learn to fuck with you.
neptune !!oR5JntD5E5m No.82797077 >>82797115
>>82797064
i think a few of my replies show that i am a silly weird fella!!!!!!
Anonymous No.82797115
>>82797077
>post wasn't original