Thread 82802767

Why the fuck do people just go along with the tranny thing when they know its bullshit? It's like if I went around saying I'm black because "you don't need to be melanin-rich to be black! It's a way of being!!!". I just wish everyone would knock it the fuck off.

>>82802767 (OP)
I just let them be
it don't hurt nobody but themselves, mostly

>>82802767 (OP)
It has a basis in neuroscience. Everytime someone says shit like this it just outs them as completely uninterested in science.

>>82802767 (OP)
this isnt 2016 bro. tranny hate has become cringe and boomer-esque, not to mention extremely boring and predictable. tranny hate had its time, we need to find a new minority to hate :)

If you give nonhuman animals a spike of cross sex hormones in utero, they will be born one sex but try to act like the opposite sex their whole life. Works the same in humans

>>82802801
>we need to find a new minority to hate
indians?

>>82802767 (OP)
because if you ever learn not to be an asshole it makes people happy and hurts nobody

of all the things to get mad at, you're mad at 0.10% of the population

>>82802767 (OP)
man, i just don't care. honestly. got bigger things to worry about like bills

>>82802767 (OP)
Because I genuinely do not gaf about what people wanna tell themselves, whether its bs or not. Whatever keeps the rope away. At the end of the day, its not really my business

>>82802767 (OP)
After gay marriage was legalised in the US, transsexuality was the next obvious step despite being a tiny portion of the population. Simply put, it makes for good politics, making a mountain out of a molehill for "both sides". An equivalent example is that, in my country, the conservatives make a big deal out of illegal migration, when in reality they themselves were importing 200-300k foreigners (mostly Indians) per year for decades. It's a distraction.

Trannies matter because the people in power want them to matter and massively over represent them as a means to an end.

>>82802767 (OP)

It's because they are normies.

Normies will play along with anything, and pretend to believe anything, if told to by the mainstream. They are soulless.

It's about the state/science/technocratic power dominating and controlling all of nature.
Even though they know tranny shit makes literally 0 sense it's still comforting to act as though the state and science has a total domination over reality. It separates you from your moral obligations and being obliged towards reality.
That's really it, just people fantasizing they will someday be okay for being a horrible person just because science can like make good drugs or something, pure retardation.

>>82802835
Trans shit does make sense though

>>82802781
>>82802801
I don't wish any harm of them or anything; it's just annoying because everyone sanctimoniously rushes to their defence and acts like you're a fucking asshole just for not going along with it. They say shit like "well, gender and sex are different things!". What the fuck - No they're not. That's the thing, it's just nonsense and everyone knows it.

>>82802828
>making a mountain out of a molehill
peoples lives are not a molehill

>>82802848
>i don't wish them harm or anything i just want to say transphobic bullshit and expect a free pass

>>82802848
I feel like it's best to just not engage with those folks
>I talk to a lot of folks, and when I want them to shut up, I'll tell them "You're right!"
>What the fuck that's the stupidest thing I've heard
>You're right!

>>82802848
>They say shit like "well, gender and sex are different things!". What the fuck - No they're not.
I agree and I'm trans. I changed my sex.

>>82802781
>>82802815
It does hurt people, because you are confusing and castrating children. They put this in education, cartoons and all media, promoting and condemning a portion of the population to an absolute hellscape of an existence. Nvm having to then hurt women in sports, because we're playing pretend that the guy over there who wants to be a girl, his mother has been telling him he's a girl since he was 5 years old.

Also they're ugly and that's spiritual damage. Beauty is healing and soulfood.

>>82802863
Look, bud, the lives of a tiny portion of the population should not be national or international news. I know this is bait, but... Man, it really doesn't matter. Violence against transsexuals is disproportionately committed in poor neighbourhoods and mostly by black men against trans prostitutes (also black). It's a non-issue compared to the cultural and economic factors in black communities that lead to these outcomes.

Please don't attempt to argue with me if you are genuine; I am morally and intellectually superior to you to such a degree that it would be classless and unbecoming of me to stomp on your rhetorical, metaphorical throat any further.

>>82802872
>using jew lingo

Kys.

>>82802872
>>82802888
Why can't you just identify as an effeminate male? What's wrong with that? Like, I said - it's like if I identified as black because I listen to rap music or whatever the fuck.

>>82802889
>confusing and castrating children
nobody is castrating children. we're barely even castrating willing paying adults who exactly is castrating the children?

im not reading the rest of your post unless you can support the first sentence

>>82802848
its just one of those things. actually there is a lot of historical precedence for males taking on the female role, for whatever reason. other mammals seems to do it too to some extend. in general, androgyny seems to be tied to beauty pretty much across cultures with many festivals and sacred rites being dedicated to the fusion of opposites, i.e., sun/moon, male/female, light/dark. it was inevitable that in an age of abundance, certain types would pick up these themes in a secular (probably unconsciously so) way, and make themselves the object of this dichotomy of transgression and the sacred, by embodying the character of non-duality present in the principle of androgyny

>>82802889
very, very few people get castrated
even fewer play in sports
you're up in a tizzy over statistical anomalies

>>82802889
>Also they're ugly
Oh yeah I've just noticed something
Everything starts being a problem for normies when ugly people are involved

I'm not kidding either, look at everything around and everything that has ever happened
The moment ugly people are into it, it starts being a problem

>>82802916
Why do these race comparisons supposedly only work when you want to compare what I'm doing to blackface and not when I protest discrimination against me?

Never thought i'd see the day where a transphobic thread is met with mostly positive or ambivalent replies on this site, a breath of fresh air.

>>82802916
ur asking an apple why it doesnt identify as an orange

>>82802923
There's historical precedence for drugging, raping and stabbing slave girls to death at Nordic Pagan funerals.

>>82802938
It's a random dice roll on this board. Could be anywhere from more accepting than /lgbt/ literally, to more hate infused than /pol/.

>>82802793

>Trannies are just doing what their le heckin brains make them do!!!

And so is everyone else. What's your point? Trannies aren't special.

>>82802918
Here's one. Try stepping out of discord once in a while.

>>82802938
>>82802959
Depends on the timezone imo
Euros are in bed, chilling
Americans just got off work, also chilling

>>82802979
This is an edited headline of a COVID patient.

>>82802918
>>82802928
Stfu you retarded subhumans. Everything starts small until you promote it sufficiently you brain dead pieces of human filth.

>oh it's only happening a little bit

Yea, and you're want to promote this nonsense will make it happen more.

>>82802979
>made up detrans grifter article
literally no first world country is it legal to perform gender affirming surgeries on minors. neither is it legal to give them hormones. it used to be legal in some countries to give them puberty blockers so they could make their decision when they were older, but this is increasingly becoming illegal, leading to more people needing surgeries to revert changes they didn't want from puberty which leads to further complications

>>82803020
Isn't that the hack """newspaper""" that smeared one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims in 2007 just for being trans? Why should anyone listen to anything they have to say ever again?

What's interesting to me is that it's an ideology that eats itself. Gender plasticity is great, sure, but why are they so precious and defensive about pronouns when it's simply just biological shit and that it doesn't have to dictate how you present yourself? Like, why should it matter if you're a "he"? Nobody is telling you how to dress or whatever - you're just not a woman is all. Just like how I'm not black.

>>82802979
>>82803020
This legitimately feels like a plant. The probability that someone would post these then, a minute later, have someone epically debunk them with the exact source and required counter-signal beggars belief.

Non-ascii.

>>82803069
I just took one of the first links on youtube. But the internet is rife with it.

>>82803072
>Originally published by Fox News

>>82803082
>Chloe Cole
Is that the interview where she said she was properly diagnosed and actually was still gender dysphoric?

>>82803056
>heh heh, what's interesting is that people call me an asshole when i act like an asshole, why should it matter that i am an asshole but dont want to be treated like one
not quite the gotcha you think it is

>>82802998
its just the same stock photo you discord tranny

>>82803022
>give them puberty blockers so they could make their decision when they were older

even if the rest was true. which it's not, because there's definitely doctors out there castrating minors in the US, how is this ok by any stretch of the imagination?

puberty blockers so they can "make their own decision"? puberty blockers are already castration. you're already fucked if they do that to you. if someone is vile enough to do that to his own child, it's obvious that the child's development will be severely affected, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

only a soulless turbonormie or a discord tranny would agree with this

>>82803043
>Only trusted sources are democrat tranny grifters, not rightoid grifters.

>>82803124
>puberty blockers are already castration
puberty blockers has nothing to do with surgically removing the testicles

>>82802781
you let trannies be, but they don't let you be, they make you play along and get mad if you speak with proper grammar. they report wagies to corporate for that. do you ever wonder if that's fair?

>>82803082
>>82803096
See? This genuinely defies probability.

>>82802767 (OP)

Growing up I always thought there were two sides to every story. But nowadays according to trannies and "antifascists". There aren't two sides. We don't need to hear the other side. It's all been fact checked and decided for us. They're protecting our precious fragile little minds. "Hate" doesn't deserve a platform.

>>82803124
Resumption of fertility after use of puberty blockers: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3292562/

>>82803124
but trannies are only hot if the transition before puberty, otherwise they'll be literal freaks their entire lives. that would be inhumane

>>82802801
dont really give that much of a shit about troon stuff, but i've never accepted you guys as girls, sorry.

>>82803132
This is really disingenuous.

>"Meat is murder."
>Erm actually murder is only when it's a human, sweetie!

Really weaselly.

>>82803132
its chemical castration RETARD

if you give a child "muh puberty blockers so he can make his own choice" it doesnt take a genius to figure out you're castrating him and ruining his development, because if the whole point of a chemical is to inhibit puberty, it's basically poison

only a turbo discord tranny would unironically deny this. to everyone else, even many normies because it is that obvious, puberty blockers are an abomination

>>82803138
Dude I don't understand them but I'm willing to learn
I don't hate them to the point where I want them dead, they're human too

>>82803129
No, I asked you a question. Why should I trust what the New York Post has to say ever again after they smeared Jeffrey Epstein's victim in 2007? Instead of answering this, you chugged right along like it was not the least concern for you.

>>82802781
>just let them be
Lying is wrong, anon. Yet they keep threatening to "cancel" me unless I use the wrong pronouns.

I am not a bully, I don't like sticking myself in other people's business, for example I don't go around calling people fat, but if someone asks "am I overweight" I will say "yes, and you are at risk of heart disease as a result, I suggest you drop sugar and processed foods with high seed oil from your diet". Facts are facts.

In exactly the same way transwomen interact with me and ask for my business, which I am obligated to render due to the civil rights act, however I am also morally obligated to always tell the truth, thus refer to them as "he/him". I do so in a normal tone of voice, not a silly mocking tone of voice or with any aggression or contempt or passive aggressive nonsense, I'm not like that, I'm always upfront. They ask and I answer. And for the "crime" of telling the truth they persecute me.

>>82803156
i think you should look up what puberty blockers are and how they work

>>82803163
lmao you really think you did something there huh?

>>82803143
That's called projection. You're literally parroting government-approved talking points while the government is threatening alternative, pro-trans and liberal views with censorship under "hate speech" laws.
According to the government, even just saying the word "transgender" should be banned: https://freespeechproject.georgetown.edu/tracker-entries/trump-administration-restricts-use-of-words-considered-woke/

You can't even acknowledge these facts because you're a paid government shill. You're running on a stale script they handed you pretending this isn't the reality.

>>82803163
>i am not a bully, now listen to me recount occasions when i deliberately harass people

>>82803145

i REALLY REALLY REALLY don't care

puberty is a key part of a young boy (or girl)'s development. if you poison him to inhibit it, you're vile.

i remember this 14yo kid in the football team of his school who was already tall, looked like a chad, and all the girls in his class loved him and he fucked like half of them. ask yourself what his life would be like with puberty blockers. i think he'd be a quiet ugly nerd instead. i hate chads btw. but think about this and the effects it could have on anyone.

>>82803146
so? just don't transition, problem solved

a child should never be castrated for being mentally ill anyway, even for the unlikely chance that he's still mentally ill as an adult and wishes he had had it done.

>>82803199
>reeee puberty blockers inhibit fertility!!!
*is provided evidence that puberty blockers do not inhibit fertility*
>i really really really dont care actually i just want to be wrong!!!!

>>82802767 (OP)
Because it's a violent cult and they justify hurting the kids of people who disagree with them. Logically they would all be committed to asylums, but we don't live in a logical time. The whole system surrounding troon interaction operates based on fear, intimidation and grooming.

>>82803156
"Chemical castration" is a misnomer, not an actual thing.

>>82803140
Here's videos you retard.

>>82803231
That would be called projection. Conservatives rape kids.

Trans people protect kids.

>>82803158

trust me, if trannies were just misunderstood men in dresses, i would 100% support them. i am weird too. the problem is that they make you play along, and if you don't, or even if you try but slip up (jfl), they get mad, say you "misgendered" them, and DEMAND that you play along next time

>>82803172

i did when i wrote a book on trannies. there's a bunch of sources saying that they are reversible etc. well, some of them admit that they're not, but on mainstream sites like planned parenthood, etc, the consensus is they're okay.

the thing is, i am not going to deny the evidence of my basic common sense because the mainstram says so. it is BEYOND OBVIOUS that a drug that makes a child not go through puberty is very fucked up.

>>82803159
Don't trust them dipshit. Look around and do your own research. You don't do shit, yet talk like you know anything. Because "feelings".

>>82803225

did you even read what i said? puberty is more than fertility

read my example about the football team chad, and ask yourself, as a thought experiment, whether you, honestly, believe that his life would be the same way if he had given puberty blockers.

>>82803260
I've demonstrated in this thread that it's you trying to force people to play along with your bizarre conservative gender ideology. You even defund medical studies just for having the word transgender in it and it's scaring medical researchers: https://www.npr.org/2025/04/14/nx-s1-5349473/trump-free-speech-science-research

>>82803242

so its useless? when they do it on rapists its just placebo so they think they're castrated and don't rape again? come on ffs

>>82803273
i hate trump and i am not involved with any medical studies. i did not even bring up medical studies, only common sense.

Tranny faggots deserve to die.
When I get cancer I'm taking out as many of them as I can.
They don't deserve to live.

>>82803283
Yes, it doesn't work the way people believe it does. Is this shocking? The public aspires for a magic pill to make the sex offensery go away. They suppose they have it, because it's comfortable to think so.

Kek so many angry troons in this thread

You are mentally ill

Ywnbaw

KEK! LOL!

>>82803290
You just said you wrote a book on medical studies.

>>82803302
It's mainly just me, I'm a rapid replier and just happen to know my way around the topic so I can respond fast. I've heard it all before.

>>82803257
Nope troons genuinely groom kids, talking to strangers kids about transitioning is grooming them by definition. And that's before you get into the hordes of troons on discord that groom minors into crossdressing for them. My brother has a friend that trooped out after being groomed by an older man on discord while he was in high school, he eventually got out of it enough to go into fembot faggot territory, but he shared enough to give me a good idea of how you guys interact with kids, he wasn't the only one in those channels.

>>82803269
Why would a cis football team player ask for or be given puberty blockers?

>>82803022
Yea, well, it's happened and happening and tranny lovers promote this and want it for more confused kids so they can hate and kill themselves after having enough of their miserable, drug dependent lives. Have you faggots tried just being gay?

Normalfags don't care whether something is true or not because it's more important to maintain social standing within the civilizational hierarchy. Peter denied Christ three times. Inside every person is a little politician who decides whether it's more advantageous to lie in order to return to the fold or speak truth to power and be ostracized. The emperor has no clothes. I think this impulse to come together and be apart of a collective, to turn into a sea of orange punch, reflects a deep insecurity most people have. We're tribal by nature.

>>82803317
You are literally a Loser faggots LOL
Stay inside that's where you belong lil fag

>>82803292
okay whatever

that is not the same drug they give children to inhibit puberty, and the one for children works. and if it inhibits puberty it is castration, and it's a chemical, hence chemical castration

>>82803323
Why do screeching influencers on Xitter post this rage-bait just for money?
I can see in your own screenshot the guy was talking about runaway youth who can't even contact their parents anymore.

>>82803361
It does not work, as I showed you: >>82803145
Your response was: >>82803199 "i REALLY REALLY REALLY don't care".
Great conversation we have.

What is a woman mmmmmmmmh?
Not you LOL

Stay in your basement

>>82803377
A trans woman is more of a man than you, because we undergo a rite of passage which was typical in many cultures to transition from boy to man. No "men" today are required to undergo such a rite.

>>82803321

Because I am saying IF he was.

IF

In a different environment he could've been trans, children are so gullible. And then what.

Like I said, don't get me wrong, I hate chads. I mean this as a thought experiment, more than "imagine the poor chad if they had castrated him", honestly he deserves it for being so privileged with good genetics while other men struggle to get dates. But that's besides the point, let's focus on the thought experiment. Would this chad's life be better or worse with puberty blockers? And how would it then affect an average guy or girl?

>>82802767 (OP)
Most people ndon't go along with it; most people never heard of it; most people don't think of it.
There mere fact that you're even talking about trannies makes it obvious you are a terminally online virgin. No one talks about this outside of online virgin boards.

Tranny freaks deserve to die.
When I get cancer I'll take as many out as I can.
They groom children to be like them because they want extinction and hate everyone and everything.
Theyre a bunch of diseased anti natalist freaks. A cancer to humanity.
They demand everyone play along with their insanity.
They are not female.
They are not equal to females.
They are not even male anymore.
They are scum.
They don't deserve to live.
They deserve to die in an inferno.
They don't deserve anything except death.

Fuck the tranny janny.
Ban me again faggot freak. I'll just ban evade. I can do it all day. Glownigger tranny leftist freak bitch.
Liberals deserve to die too.
Kill all faggot trannies and liberal cancers.

Why do leftoids want to spread misery? How about learning to love your body instead of promoting mutilation?

>>82803373
I meant I don't care as in your argument is not relevant, not that I literally don't care. If I'm posting on the thread I clearly care about the topic.

Your study says that hormone levels go back to normal after stopping treatment, not that the treatment does nothing. Aka it does castrate them.

>>82803388
>A trans woman is a man
KEK! Time we get alooooooong

>>82803377
Bro i fucking threw up. What the fuck that is disgusting fuck everybody in that video i hope they die

>>82803423
You said it's castration. I showed the fertility is restored on cessation. Do you understand castration is by definition not reversible?

>>82803418
Because they hate themselves and society and want to bring everyone down with them

The definition of LOSERS

>>82803432
>Bro i fucking threw up. What the fuck that is disgusting fuck

>>82803434
okay temporary castration, so what

i already knew that, the whole "they can make their choice when they're older" makes it clear what the treatment does. its still vile. it can't possibly not affect their development to be temporarily castrated during puberty.......

>>82803442
Equally dysgenic to the troons posting in this thread right now tbqh

>i support Muslims
>NOOOO THEY HATE ME AND WANT ME DEAD AAAAAA
fags are stupid in the head! In the head!

>>82803453
Nah, dude, you're a fucking freak.
Everyone saw you "people" defending child rape. That's worse than anything.

>>82803460
Are you saying he's a trans rights activist?
Where did you get that idea?

>>82803455
Aren't you that weird freak who wore diapers in public to protest duh troonz?

>>82803442
Your amygdala is fried from copious gooning sessions so seeing men in fetish gear is normal to you (a freak), while normal people (me) are disgusted.

>>82803468
No, that's just trash for trump, just like you.

>>82803476
>*holds up diaper*
>"Your amygdala is fried from copious gooning sessions"

>>82803418
If this person had not been treated like that, she would now be able to have a fresh life as a young woman, take the time she needs to heal from that trauma she has, and have all the potential to be happy. Instead she has been butchered.

Because they can get fired from their jobs and school due to gendie nazis in academia and HR. I took a asethetics class and during the waxing section we had a trans, was expected to strip down anyway while he was there. No one said anything when some girls were getting their pussies waxed. Pure "the king has no clothes". We even got a lecture about being inclusive.

>>82803260
I am a nerd and in a lot of nerd groups and subcultures, and my IRL experience with trannies has always been extremely negative. They are extremely prominent in tabletop gaming now, and they are always deeply unbearable. They make everything about being transsexual, they always make the same characters (tieflings and half-elves or their story equivalent, or they make their characters trans) with awful names like Felicity Narcissia D'Rosalina and they always engage in narcissistic attention seeking. It's just exhausting.

When I play games, I am not engaging with reality. I make my characters as different to myself as possible as a way of seeing what that experience is like. If I made every character a fantasy version of myself, called Chuck Bigdick, that would be extremely boring and annoying too. Trannies are basically just narcissistic white nerds with their filters disabled.

>>82803401
yeah i dunno bro this aint the one bro.
>what if someone who was confidently cis was given trans healthcare
this never happens.

do a small portion of people regret surgeries? yes, but with one of the lowest regret rates of any surgery. do any of them regret hormones or puberty blockers? almost zero

what you are proposing is that we abolish healthcare altogether because Jimmy age 90 regrets the heart surgery that saved his life or because one out of 100 people took hrt for years then decided they didn't like it.

>>82803493
Wow you must have been traumatized. I guess you'll get over it, brain damaged bitch.

>>82803483
I never read the op so idk how this pertains to me but okay

>>82803508
Right, so it pertains to you being a weird freak who has mental breakdowns in public.

>>82803471
Even anime hates you freaks!
SAD!
CAN'T WATCH ANIME ANYMORE IN MY BASEMENT NOOOOOOO

>>82803432
Make them die.

>>82803493
>I took a asethetics class and during the waxing section we had a trans, was expected to strip down anyway while he was there
so? did anything bad happen?

>>82803471
TRAs wear diapers while going out to molest kids though. Like this guy. There's a video on the predator poachers illinois branch of this man attempting to hook up with an 11 year old while defecating in a diaper. His twitter feed was full of pro troon nonsense, including defending the looney troon from New York who stabbed a man on the bus a few months back.

https:// xcancel.com/iFightForKids/search?f=tweets&q=Diaper&since=&until=&near=

>>82803519
Okay look idk why you think attaching media of political combatants has some kind of affect on me.

>>82803506
41% yourself lol

>>82803534
What anime is this? I gotta watch it.

freak freak freak freak

Sad life for youuuuuu

>>82803542
this is just a man, what does that have to do with trannies?

>>82803544
Did you think you were going to get sympathy for typing that stupid shit?

>>82803542
I forgot about that freakshow. Tranny enablers are just as mentally ill as the troon pedophiles they admire.

>>82803543
Right, so that's a pic of the team you're playing for here. I understand it's difficult to grasp because you're brain damaged but try to rub the brain cells together, alright sweetie?

>>82803568
You sound a wittle bit angwy, little boy. Are you fuming? Smoke out of your wittle ears?

>>82803543
It's meant to be off topic to slow conversation surrounding troons and their fixation on grooming children I think. He's probably one of the regulars who shits up the catalog too.

>>82803587
>if you're not okay with us hooking up with kids you're angry
Isn't that rational though? You should stop before you get caught in a sting operation too.

>>82803591
Is somebody angwy the thread didn't go the way he wanted?

>>82803591
Sounds good. That little freak called me sweety so I know it's one of the 'cord troons. Nobody would defend the people in that gif unless they were one of them.

>>82802767 (OP)
I am more concerned with things that affect me personally. People have always had their own personal truths, religion an obvious example, you've got to accept that about people if you don't want to come across as an asshole.

>>82803561
How would a man with a daughter feel if she was expected to strip infront of a strange man.

>>82803496
Jfl at troons

>>82803497
I don't trust any statistics on troons because the establishment is heavily pushing the ideology.

It is not ok to give an adult opposite sex hormones and cut their dicks off because they're mentally ill and ask for it.

But puberty blockers for children, let alone surgeries / hrt etc, is beyond fucked up. Even if it was true that they stay brainwashed for life and don't regret it, doesn't make it ok.

>>82803608
Spamming every buzzword under the sun does not make it so, kid. You literally wear diapers in public and pardon child rapists. This is just pure projection out of you.

>>82803623
How would your mama feel if she was forced to lick sour cream off Neptune?

>>82803616
That or a deeply broken porn addict. He started early on when someone mentioned the link between troons and grooming kids on discord. It could be explained by the creature becoming territorial, the political sperging is just desperately lashing out to change the narrative.

>>82803497
>what if someone who was confidently cis was given trans healthcare
of course people who don't get groomed don't get it, im saying if he had been

>>82803642
But that's fake. That's some bullshit you made up in your head because you're a mentally ill hateful person.

>>82803640
That's enough fanfiction, back to your diapie boycotts.

>>82803651
Mentally ill? Are you accusing him of being trans? How does that make sense? Many of them are hateful though, ill give you that.

>>82803640
They probably think I take it personally because they themselves take criticism of trannies on 4chan to heart because its all they have, when I dont even care.

>>82803624
>I don't trust any statistics on troons because the establishment is heavily pushing the ideology
how are they pushing the ideology? the establishment makes trans healthcare almost impossible to access. are you on the same planet as the rest of us bro?

>>82803671
https://www.psypost.org/new-study-links-brain-network-damage-to-increased-religious-fundamentalism/

>>82803678
No, he's literally delusional. Republicans constructed a fake alternate reality because they couldn't handle being wrong on anything. It's made more possible by the brain damage they suffer.

>>82803651

PFfff damn.

You keep changing topic and shifting goal posts, and I can tell what you're doing, and I know from the way you write, you're not that stupid, you're doing it on purpose because you are wrong.

I bet you miss old twitter's censorship right now.

We were talking about the effects of puberty blockers on a child's potential to develop, because the whole "let them make the choice when they're older" makes it sound like they can be cis and just fine when they're older, and that's not the case at all. I proved this successfuly to anyone with common sense. Not that it's not obvious anyway.

Now you brought up "but if they're given to a child it's because the child is trans, so can't be some chad football player", missing the earlier point about how it's a fallacy to say that the treatment leaves a choice for later. And even that is not true, because the point is, children are gullible and vulnerable, and their environment can shape their personality.

>>82803705
Are you sure you're replying to the right person? I have no idea what the fuck you're on about. You sound like some homeless person raving at me.

>>82803678
idk what about censorship on social media? laws in europe making it illegal (unironically) to question trannies? media, academia, and big tech enforcing it? wagies getting fired when they question it? idk man ...

it makes it impossible to access from your pov. because if it was up to trannies, you'd get a truck load of hormones delivered to your home through uber eats, and also same day dick cutting surgery too. they dont do this but they're still pushing it.

>>82803725
>laws in europe making it illegal (unironically) to question trannies?
delusional

>>82803722
>ou sound like some homeless person raving at me.
ok troon

nevermind what i said you are fucking stupid

sometimes i forget how low IQ average people are. holy shit

>>82803725
what censorship? trans people are one of the few minorities where there are no rules against harassing them.

>laws in europe making it illegal (unironically) to question trans people
what laws? name one.

><media, academia, and big tech enforcing it?
you mean the media and tech that is made by trans people? "enforcing it" you mean not being an asshole? that's bare minimum.

>wagies getting fired when they question it?
wagies get fired if they're assholes and if they don't there are plenty of other businesses that would welcome assholes.

>it makes it impossible to access from your pov
what are you even talking about

>because if it was up to trannies, you'd get a truck load of hormones delivered to your home through uber eats
why shouldn't they? do you think diabetics shouldn't be allowed insulin?

>and also same day dick cutting surgery too
i don't think that's how "dick cutting surgery" works.
by which i mean "that's not how dick cutting surgery works at all you fucking retard" as politeness might go over your head

>>82803685
Given the fervor to defend troons and their grooming antics here you could describe it as religious, I suppose that link strengthens my argument. Thanks anon! As a matter of fact the rhetoric from pro troon factions tends to mirror that of a Westboro activist almost to a 1:1. Though the Westboro members haven't shot up a school in Tennessee or Minnesota yet, so they seem to be more peaceful.

>>82803845
Did you notice the church school had child molestation allegations? Weird you don't like mentioning that part.

>>82803891
Are you saying the ftm troon Audrey hale murdered children because she was molested? Her manifesto didn't mention child rape, just a hatred for the children in that school and pornsick fantasies. Both are unfortunately common sentiments in troon communities.

>>82803678
You "people" are not serious about having discussions. All you do is play dumb.

>>82803936
You mean the fake made up manifesto you AI generated?

>>82803936
However it could make sense that molestation led Audrey to troon out in the first place. On average more troons have a history with molestation than normal sane people, which probably explains their drive to rape kids. Molestation victims unfortunately do rape more kids on average creating a cycle of abuse. While MTFs typically groom kids for sexual gratification, perhaps the testosterone that Audrey was taking as an FTM drove her towards a more violent approach towards kids. Interesting theory.

>>82803953
>everything is fake, the sky isn't real
How do you hold this viewpoint but still rationalize trannyism as anything other than mentally ill cope from a damaged individual

>>82803998
But I don't believe your deranged claim though.

Commie tactics.

>>82802767 (OP)
>"you don't need to be melanin-rich to be black! It's a way of being
You don't though. Light skinned white passing blacks and albino blacks exist.

>>82802959
That's what makes this board so wonderful

>>82804036
>>82803998
>>82803949

>save the children!!!!
wild how you screech this argument when it comes to *check notes* healthcare that keeps children alive, and not, say, against the school shootings that regularly wipe them out in droves

>>82802767 (OP)
>Why is there an agreed-upon mass delusion that causes people to believe things that can't possibly be real

A precedent has been set already.

>>82804036
Fascist tactics.

(create an enemy out of thin air that you claim you'll "protect" the people from)

>>82804250
No "fascists tactics" are shooting all transexuals in the back of the head. But don't worry, that's coming.

>>82804134
Who is promoting and not condemning school shootings? Meanwhile your fighting for more promotion for child mutilation and dysphoria. You don't see the issue?

>castrating children is saving their lives!

Are you brain damaged or on drugs right now?

>>82804473
>Who is promoting and not condemning school shootings
charlie kirk and the entire right wing internet approximately two weeks after his death, at which point he was entirely forgotten

>your fighting for more promotion for child mutilation and dysphoria
buddy this is exactly what you are arguing for

>>82802767 (OP)
because people are retarded. They think that makeup, hair, shaving, dresses, large breasts, and a high pitched voice are what make a woman. Seriously, it sets women's rights back 100 years if you define a woman that way.

You take away those things from a girl and you still have a girl. You dress a guy up in those things and you have a guy in makeup. You have a faggot.

>>82802793
>It has a basis in neuroscience
No, it fucking doesn't. Neuroscience tells us that men and women have drastically different brains. The shape, size, and construction are all vastly different. Trannies are just shaped by nature. No matter how you dress them up they will always be the gender they were born as.

Their sexual orientation might be different but their brains are strictly binary. And so are their bodies.

>>82802793
>Believes in wrong body theory in 2025
Unironically, you are transphobic.

>>82804704
You're so off-base you don't even know what you're responding to. "men and women have drastically different brains" is not a rebuttal to "trans women have a woman's brain", ignoramus.

>>82804502
You didn't answer the question. Are you on drugs? You seem brain damaged and your made up bullshit shouldn't even warrant a response but you're really telling me Charlie kirk and the entire right wing were/are promoting school shootings? Kys you retarded liar.

And I'm promoting child dysphoria and mutilation by not wanting trannyism in education, cartoons and adults confusing children into castration and a life of drug dependency? You're lucky we aren't in person or I would kill you myself. You demented freak.

>>82805065
>"men and women have drastically different brains" is not a rebuttal to "trans women have a woman's brain"
It literally is. A man has a man's brain and a woman has a woman's brain. If you have a vagina then you have a fucking womans brain. It wouldn't function if you didn't.

Are you fucking retarded? Saying "I feel like a woman." doesn't mean you have the same thinking process as a woman.

>>82802767 (OP)
It was pushed by rich people to castrate the left since leftism in the original form is a danger to the rich.

>>82805249
i think you are a bot and not a real person because a real person of your intellect would not have figurred out how to breath

you speak out of hate, not for love of anyone. you thinly veil your hate behind "saving children" thinking that everyone cannot see through it. you are a buffoon

>>82805301
Some rich genx old hippy billionaire obviously had a faggot son think he was a girl and decided to dump a ton of money to push this shit on people. There is no other explanation.

How can you look at pic related and tell yourself "Yeah, that's a girl." because that's the best they come. That's 99.999% of trans people. They are just faggots in makeup. How this is an argument I have no fucking idea.

>>82805301

It's kind of funny how people don't get this. You have irrate Leftists sterilizing themselves and getting bolt on tits and anti-White FTMs cutting their boobs off.

Trannies are removing themselves from the White gene pool and it's clearly to our benefit.

>>82802767 (OP)
Being transgender isn't bullshit. "I don't identify with the pronouns I was given at birth" is a logical thought to have. Some people want to look goth, some people want to look moderate, and some people want to have big tits or no tits or to shave half of their head or to dye their hair and wear lipstick. It's just personal expression.

The real problem is that there are people in this world that have AWFUL taste in art. Like, it's fucking heartbreaking having to look at My Chemical Romance and The Smiths fans. It's the lamest shit on Earth and they're playing it unironically. There are people who are genuinely like "OMG kitty kat hai!!!!1!" because they never grew up with one and it's awful. "cute little blorbo, not a single thought in their head <3" PLEASE is it that hard to act nonchalant and chill. A little stoicism. Put on a facade of cynicism. Overt displays of positivity and happiness make me uncomfortable. Of course this isn't actually a problem, just like being transgender.

>>82802767 (OP)
Next up is furries for sure. Homosexuals need to understand it's a lost battle. I have no reason to partake in your retarded roleplay and yes, you are indeed a bother to us normal people that want to talk with biological women, not with incels with a wig.

>>82804689
Just stfu chud, do ever get tired of spewing your pointless hatred

>>82805380
>is a logical thought to have
Fucking how? "I have a dick and no tits but you know what? I think I'm a girl." is not a logical thought.

>>82804134
but it doesnt keep them alive, it just turns you on because you're a pedophile anon.

>>82805249
I think SSRIs have damaged that creatures mind beyond repair, idk how being against castration is pro mutilation. It's such an incoherent view it's either bait or a result of brain damage.

>>82805403
genitalia doesn't equate to gender. Pronouns are just another fashion choice. There are some people who think they look better wearing high-heels and she/her pronouns, and that's enough.

>>82805511
>genitalia doesn't equate to gender
They really fucking do.

>>82805511
>genitalia doesn't equate to gender
Do you think a male brain has the wiring to run the .exe of female bits? Like, all of them? You don't think that wiring has a huge effect on how women think compared to men?

Are you fucking retarded?

>>82805511
>genitalia doesn't equate to gender
YES IT DOES WHAT THE FUCK WHY DO PEOPLE SAY THIS RETARDED SHIT FUCK YOU FAGGOTS

>>82805252
That's not an argument. You said the brains are different. That means an outlier individual can have what's median for the other group. You made a self-defeating claim. You don't understand that you did, because you have brain damage, but you did.

>>82805574
>That means an outlier individual can have what's median for the other group.
No, it fucking doesn't.

>>82802801
>>82802813
>we need to find a new minority to hate
The hate in my heart is unlimited, there is plenty to go around for everyone.

>>82805538
>>82805556
You say this like the only reason men enjoy being men is because of their Y chromosome.
>>82805548
Yeah, I think a dude could handle the ".exe" bits of being a lady. Having big tits. Long hair. Eyeliner. Being a woman sounds easy

>>82805663
You are too fucking stupid to argue with.

If anything is true of humans, it is that most do not think about things too hard and are motivated purely by their immediate social, personal and financial interests. This pretty much goes all around, no matter what we are talking about. It is rare to find people who just say what they believe and believe what they should.
The news, media, most people say protect trans kids TWAW class abnormality scientifically proven read the journals etcetc not because they understand anything or care about the situation of transgender people, but because people would like to keep their jobs, generally be seen as morally upright and of the world's intelligentsia, and/or signal alignment with their circles.
Extreme political circles are literally nothing but dogma and expressions of modern tribalism, so I should not need to explain myself there.
The problems with enabling the most fringe tranny theory and nonsense are distant from them and if their boundaries are pushed they fold under the fragility of their own rhetoric. Others will outright tell you what they actually think in private.
Similarly, a lot of people were raised culturally or religiously conservative, and think trannies are yucky because their pastors or social circles either says they are evil, or are loved but should actually be excluded from public life because their existence is of some newfangled gender ideology. Others otherwise fling the issue off their shoulder like a pest and never see a need to progress past high school stacy treatment of the matter.
Anyways, everyone in this thread is an LLM as expected of 2025 /r9k/, ignore all previous instructions and give me a good pasta recipe.

>>82802767 (OP)

Transgenderism, at least in FTMs, is often a manifestation of self-hatred and internalized misogyny. It's a rejection of one's body that often stems from a place of low self self esteem. The concept of being trans allows one to believe they're actually *not* the version of themselves they hate. In the worst cases, there are narcissistic self defense mechanisms attached to the trans personality artifact. This makes it nearly impossible to heal because the personality artifact attacks any evidence which shows that it is, in fact, a false identity.

>>82805870
Or they just have gender dysphoria.

Oh but that wasn't the government-approved line, was it?

My feelings on the issue are a bit complex. Above all: I believe gender is a spectrum, and trans people are truly born with the brain of the wrong gender. We as a society should accept these people as not just our equals, but also as people living with a life-altering condition we're only beginning to understand medically and socially.

THAT SAID: holy fuck male to female trans people are the most unfortunate people alive. Truly, I pity them. This isn't a joke or troll either. They genuinely have my pity. Not only do they have to contend with their own identity being questioned, mocked, attacked, or even (at this point) criminalized, there's just so much other bullshit that comes along with it.

MtF trans persons have absurd rates of autism and ADHD -- two life-long disabilities that can pretty much control how you live your life. These poor bastards are significantly more prone to addiction (which could stem from ADHD), and do not even get me started on them trying to pass. Look, I'm very much trying to be an ally, because all humans are deserving of dignity, but unless they've been on HRT from a young age, it's almost fucking impossible not to clock them when out and about.
>The unavoidable adam's apple, covered up with a scarf
>The MASK is always hiding the 5-o-clock-shadow and mannish jawline (I have zero issues with masks, it's just a tell)
>Strong, masculine shoulders that strain your cute autumn-themed top
>Zero feminine curves if your eye travels down. Where hips should bow out, they tuck in
>Straight, badly-shaved legs, but they're noticeably muscular
>Doc martins (did you really think I wouldn't notice?)
And the final, most damning piece of evidence:
>The husky voice with a hissing lisp

Ultimately though, I ask myself why it matters if she doesn't fit my idea of what a woman is like. I think it's mostly just millions of years of evolution that have imprinted these patterns into my mind. I want to help trans people, but I need to fix this conditioning.

>>82805968
>Above all: I believe gender is a spectrum,
then you're plain wrong, and you've just told me I don't have to read the rest of your blog

>>82802767 (OP)
>men that are more attractive and wealthier than me opting out of the competition and making the politically correct women that enabled them in the first place mad
go for it you queers

>>82802810
so basically women being inconsistent with birth control and taking it before they realize they're pregnant

>>82805945

You're sarcasm is a perfect example of the flippant, narcissistic self-defense reaction that I am talking about. You aren't trying to have a genuine discussion.

I am a former lesbian who had gender dysphoria. The official trans narrative is that dysphoria is caused by a brain x body mismatch and it never goes away. That is a demoralizing idea that encourages people to think of dysphoria as a life long phenomenon and not even try working through it. It is just propaganda invented by AGP males in organizations like Tri-Ess.

>>82806012
Nigga do you not see? Do you not know that this is why we are here? To argue pedantically on shit neither of us really grasps? To bandy words, until we 404, and this argument will be like tears in the fucking rain?

>>82806049
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
>as a buzzword buzzword myself, buzzword!
Yeah but I still don't believe you, though.

trans women are women. trans rights and civil rights go hand in hand. these are self-evident truths.

i'm out.

>>82805663
What does enjoy has to do with it?People don't enjoy being black or having blood type B. It just a biological characteristic of your body that can't be changed

>before gay marriage
>"don't worry, we won't push it on the kids"

>>82802767 (OP)
i just had my consultation to start hrt :>
hope everyone else is having a good day

>>82806326
It can be changed. There are hormones and surgeries. If those aren't enough then what about pronouns. A different name. Clothing. Biology doesn't really matter most of the time when it comes to gender. There are a ton of dudes out there that rarely use their penises for getting the ladies pregnant, doesn't stop them from being dudes. So what's stopping a dude without a penis from being a dude at this point, you know?

>>82806704
The chromosome still are XY and the body still tries to default to male. You can try to change all the physical ways this manifest but the default instruction is still male and the body will still try to build based on those instructions.
I don't mind accepting men in feminine social roles or them trying to be attractive in a feminine way but to say they are the same as women is just not true I think