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Anonymous No.82814365 >>82814391 >>82814405 >>82814830 >>82814998 >>82815002 >>82815015 >>82815048 >>82815146 >>82815193 >>82815221 >>82815308 >>82815390 >>82815397 >>82815996 >>82816059 >>82816150 >>82816320 >>82816823 >>82817313 >>82818957 >>82819024 >>82819750 >>82821713 >>82824252
Dems will never hold all three branches again. All because they chose retards like Maxine Waters to lead them.
Anonymous No.82814391 >>82814818 >>82814960 >>82815048 >>82815068 >>82815409 >>82817171 >>82823965
>>82814365 (OP)
That's what happens when you choose identity politics over competency. They likely would've won if they had just ran the white man, Newsom, but they couldn't do that.
Anonymous No.82814405 >>82814779 >>82814974 >>82815788 >>82818587 >>82818595
>>82814365 (OP)
>Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 prohibits voting practices or procedures that discriminate on the basis of race, color, or membership in one of the language minority groups identified in Section 4(f)(2) of the Act.

What does any of this section have to do with redrawing the maps?
Anonymous No.82814779
>>82814405
You can take political power away from minorities by gerrymandering the shit out of their voting districts, so new maps have to prove that they don't do that under that law. They could still redistrict between censuses, but would have to be slightly more fair.
Anonymous No.82814818 >>82815081 >>82815410 >>82817313 >>82818884 >>82818935 >>82827305
>>82814391
The right wing chose identity politics though, just on the side of immigration hate. That's just what happens when a conservative nation capitalizes on scapegoating minorities. I wonder where they learned that from
Anonymous No.82814830 >>82814997
>>82814365 (OP)
>black people get their own affirmative action census tracts
Why am I learning about this for the first time?
Anonymous No.82814960
>>82814391
you know white this white that is the apex of "identity politics" right
Anonymous No.82814974 >>82817313
>>82814405
Because a lot of voting district laws are based on this section, so that you have to include some level of demographic diversity.
Anonymous No.82814997
>>82814830
Everything other than proportional representation is affirmative action. The entire concept of non-proportional representation is affirmative action just because someone lives in a less dense area, or is a smaller part of the electorate. So in this case it's counteracting white people in the south doing affirmative action for themselves.
Anonymous No.82814998 >>82815008
>>82814365 (OP)
so uh.
the south realize they won't win this game of cat/mouse right? it's just gonna result in every state with a blue governor getting completely gerrymandered to Dems and every state with a red governor doing the same for Reps. Except way more people live in blue states so you're about to see all 50 of California's congressional districts become Dem.
Anonymous No.82815002
>>82814365 (OP)
>Hinging your party's entire future on performative activism and then running old boys like Biden while supporting societal suicide in the forms of abortion and offshoring
The democrat party created a society that literally no one is happy with. How could anyone be surprised reactionaries would thrive in that environment?
Anonymous No.82815008 >>82815043
>>82814998
You will not do shit, ever
Anonymous No.82815015
>>82814365 (OP)
Southern dembots is it over for us :(
Anonymous No.82815033 >>82815056
Maybe they should try spamming some nigger dick porn harder.
Anonymous No.82815043
>>82815008
California literally put it on the ballot for this year and I already voted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_California_Proposition_50
Anonymous No.82815048 >>82815060
>>82814365 (OP)
>>82814391
A government cannot exist without the consent of its people. Tweaking rules so that popular movements (the ones not run by evil CEOs) can't win elections is not how this works.
Anonymous No.82815056 >>82815075 >>82815425 >>82815480
>>82815033
Right-wingers are the ones posting interracial cuck porn on this board. That is long and well established.
Anonymous No.82815060 >>82815067 >>82815099
>>82815048
It can and it will. This country will be ran like Brazil. A white wealthy class and poor shitskin class. Can't wait until he axes all the gibs for good.
Anonymous No.82815067 >>82815085
>>82815060
I encourage you to try this. Your dogshit, evil, unpopular government is not built to last.
Anonymous No.82815068 >>82815614 >>82823870
>>82814391
Newsom isn't even popular in his own state. Dems should have been looking for prospects that actually get shit done two decades ago instead of betting on eternal neoliberal euphoria from Clinton and Obama. No one likes them because they're too vocal about issues rightoids hate, too soft on policies millennials want, and too fucking far-right to capture true progressives on anything. The only thing they could possibly have going for them is breaking the malaise which Obama actually could fucking do. Do you think Newsom has any track record of making progress? Cali is $50 billion overbudget on a straight shot high speed rail line and just had an 1800s-esque firestorm destroy the most iconic city in America, he's the poster boy for a hopelessly inept government.
Anonymous No.82815075 >>82815092
>>82815056
Uh huh, back to spamming. Let Republicans run wild while you retards spread your racial hate all over the internet, you worthless piece of shit.
Anonymous No.82815081 >>82816012
>>82814818
They don't understand, anon. They unironically think that by tweaking some election rules and spreading divisiveness online they can paper over the total wreckage they've made of the economy. I can't wait to see how this turns out lol.
Anonymous No.82815085 >>82815123
>>82815067
You are over there on the left with no power and no gibs. That's your future.
Anonymous No.82815092 >>82815432
>>82815075
Whoa, that was pretty aggressive. Was your cock broke today?
Anonymous No.82815099
>>82815060
>wanting your nation to be Brazil because it hurts shitskins
This is your brain on groyperism
Anonymous No.82815123 >>82815373
>>82815085
Glad you've decided to embrace that you're an evil scumbag aligned with the child rapist establishment. Keep showing your whole ass to everyone.
Anonymous No.82815127 >>82815226 >>82816997
gonna be honest
I don't understand republicans one bit
Anonymous No.82815146
>>82814365 (OP)
It's nice they think their own people are going to vote for them.
Anonymous No.82815193 >>82815261 >>82815276
>>82814365 (OP)
This is actually nice with all the libs migrating because they voted their own states into unlivable shithole wastelands
Anonymous No.82815221 >>82815443
>>82814365 (OP)
The way you guys gripe about Democrats makes it sound as if you wish you could support them instead of Republicans.
Anonymous No.82815226 >>82815511 >>82821490 >>82823910
>>82815127
It becomes easier to understand them when you realize Republicans are universally miserable in their own lives and project that into their politics.

They don't want to make things better, they just want to accelerate the decline and turn it into everyone else's problem that they're unhappy. You could offer these people universal healthcare, good jobs, etc but they'd rather cry about immigrants and watch their communities fall apart to fentanyl and unemployment as that creates a synthesis between their internal misery and external misery. They want to revel in the misery and cynicism of their beliefs as they manifest into mass societal decline. They love seeing people die, themselves included, if it makes those around them unhappy. They love feeling like the victim of some grand conspiracy to exterminate white people. They aren't a failure, it's just the grand conspiracy against white people that caused them to fail at life.

They refuse to let good things happen because that would make their suicide cult less appealing. It would invalidate their accelerationism if the world stopped being shit. What would they have spent their last 15-20 years of life on if their attempt to cause a global collapse fizzles and humanity moves on without them? They can't allow that. They NEED the world to decline as revenge on humanity for forcing them to live in a world where they aren't happy.
Anonymous No.82815261 >>82815276
>>82815193
They shouldn't be allowed to leave their shit holes. Wish their states would do the commie move and prevent them from leaving by building walls around them.
Anonymous No.82815276 >>82815340
>>82815193
>>82815261
Most of the people leaving California for Texas/Florida are Republicans. We aren't sad to see them go. You can keep them.
Anonymous No.82815308
>>82814365 (OP)
I think this is funny because the back and forth of gerrymandering has gone on for a long time, and it's funny to see once I get pissed off at the other side is about to gain the upper hand. All the while, this is been the best time ever with the government shutdown. I say don't turn it back on ever again!
>"but what about this? What about that?"
Don't care about the shit you care about. You care about stupid shit. You are captive to your political party, and being outside of it all, I think you're all stupid.
Anonymous No.82815317 >>82815342 >>82815348 >>82819888
T O T A L

V I C T O RY
Anonymous No.82815340
>>82815276
kek cope cope cope
Anonymous No.82815342 >>82815372 >>82817013
>>82815317
Nothing says christian values on the rise like a pedophile for president and I mean that unironically
Anonymous No.82815348 >>82815383
>>82815317
Whens the last time you went to church? You are actually a Christian and not just larping right?
Anonymous No.82815372 >>82815394
>>82815342
Its funny you actually truly believe that like, can *you* really judge a religious fanatic?
Anonymous No.82815373
>>82815123
>moralizing
>moralizing
>moralizing
All evil according to you. I'm sure there are people who think it's... le EVIL! to eat meat, or wear clothes ot two fabrics, consume shellfish, work on the sabbath... Keep moralizing retard.
Anonymous No.82815383 >>82815405 >>82815406
>>82815348
I'm not a Christian but I believe Christian morality is A LOT better than YOUR morality.
Anonymous No.82815390
>>82814365 (OP)
>Red Jew vs Blue Jew
Who cares?
Do you think WWE is real too?
Anonymous No.82815394
>>82815372
The most powerful christian church monopolized child rape for 1700 years, a pedophile for president is perfectly in line with christianity as a whole
Anonymous No.82815397
>>82814365 (OP)
They'll probably just rule that districting is not a 'voting procedure'
Anonymous No.82815405 >>82815497 >>82816216 >>82816216 >>82816233 >>82816326 >>82816407
>>82815383
>If you love god, give all your money to the poor
Amazing how you can scratch the parts of that morality that are inconvenient
Anonymous No.82815406
>>82815383
so you're just larping then?

its kinda strange so many weirdos are trying to co-opt christianity to be some white supremacist religion when jesus was a brown guy that told people to love immigrants and be nice to your neighbor. probably why both the catholic and orthodox churches are completely opposed to the american far-right and think you're lunatics.
Anonymous No.82815409 >>82815441 >>82815507 >>82816062
>>82814391
The left doesn't even pretend to be pro worker anymore.
It's all about giving the rich infinite slave labor via open borders, and worshipping black people and transexuals as Gods now.
Anonymous No.82815410 >>82815424
>>82814818
>No U!
Brother, your party is never going to recover
Anonymous No.82815424 >>82815455
>>82815410
>The pendulum won't swing back!
I've heard that one before
Anonymous No.82815425
>>82815056
this cope is a certified hood classic at this point
Anonymous No.82815432
>>82815092
Why would a democrat struggle with erectile dysfunction? It just means the cage stays nice and comfy while wifey is fucking Tyrone (R, MD)
Anonymous No.82815441 >>82815466 >>82815493
>>82815409
>Ask not what your country can do for you but what your country can do for immigrants
Anonymous No.82815443
>>82815221
>leftist discovers centrists
Anonymous No.82815455 >>82815489
>>82815424
Lol maybe in 20 years. You guys dug yourself DEEP.
Men vote more than women ever will and men have been disenfranchised by progressive politics
Anonymous No.82815466 >>82815475
>>82815441
>Ask not what your country can do for you but what your country can do for Isreal
Thats both parties slogan
Anonymous No.82815475 >>82815523
>>82815466
That's really the right wing, though.
Didn't ICE arrest people for criticizing Israel? Lmao
Anonymous No.82815480
>>82815056
Men in open marriages don't fantasize about cuckolding. Who fantasizes about a daily occurrence?
Anonymous No.82815489 >>82815525 >>82815543
>>82815455
You mean white straight men, though.
>20 years
10, tops.
I love how you went from "you guys are never going to recover" to "recovery is on the horizon".
Remember what happened to Hitler after less than a decade in power
Anonymous No.82815493
>>82815441
Democrats aren't the party importing millions of jeets and jews to steal your parents' jobs.
Anonymous No.82815497 >>82815533 >>82815561 >>82815584 >>82816140 >>82816290 >>82816326
>>82815405
Luke 18, of the rich man:
>And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
>And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
>Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
Jesus tells him all that is necessary here. The rich man, just as the Pharisee in verse 11, "exalteth himself," considering himself a Christian yet refuses when confronted with Christ commanding him to abandon his wealth. The quotation is not to say that it is a commandment that one should be poor, but an example of a hypocrite who would not listen even if God stood before him.
This is the reason for that which follows follows:
>And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.
The rich man believes he would follow God no matter what, but what would he do if God asked him to abandon his bourgeois lifestyle?
>Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
>And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
>And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
>For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
This surprises the Christians, realizing that not many would be able to do so. This is why they ask:
>And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved?
>And he (Jesus) said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
The impossibility of passing through the eye of the needle is made possible through Faith. It wasn't necessarily about the rich man's wealth, but his service of it over that of God. Ergo, it is not a commandment to give all money away.
Anonymous No.82815507 >>82815519 >>82815521 >>82815627 >>82817030
>>82815409
The right wing has a hardon for defending billionaires and licking their boots
Anonymous No.82815511 >>82815534 >>82815746
>>82815226
This is why the left isn't doing well anywhere on earth. This kind of reddit armchair psychology only has the function of making you feel better, of giving you a feeling of moral supremacy, while losing all predictive capabilities in understanding how or why "Republicans" behave the way they do. There is nothing intelligent or accurate in your atrocious analysis, and I say this as a socialist.

How hard is it for milquetoast retard progressives to realize that some demographics simply have different interests, different needs, and different morals? You are never going to get anyway masturbating yourself over strawmen. Republicans simply have no moral overlap with you. They do what they do because it benefits them, and they don't give a fuck how much you suffer.
Anonymous No.82815519
>>82815507
>w-whatabout! w-w-whatabout my strawman!
Okay.
Anonymous No.82815521
>>82815507
I don't disagree, I just think both sides are blackmailed by mossad kikes and billionaires
We need a 3rd option, this two party shit is designed to be terrible on purpose
Anonymous No.82815523 >>82815532
>>82815475
AOC voted to send weapons to isreal, Bern
Both sides are controlled by epstein type mossad glowies
Anonymous No.82815525 >>82815739
>>82815489
>literally Hitler
Lmao you guys are so cooked. Did you step out of 2013 tumblr??
Anonymous No.82815532
>>82815523
Bernie cucks out constantly on isreal constantly*
Woops, my post auto sent
Anonymous No.82815533 >>82815575 >>82815601 >>82817036
>>82815497
Jesus gave multiple instructions to give money away, not a single number of times, with key teachings including telling followers to "give to everyone who asks" (Matthew 5:42) and instructing a rich young man to "sell all that you have and give to the poor" (Matthew 19:21). He also taught principles of generous giving by saying, "freely give what you have freely received" (Matthew 10:8) and establishing that "you cannot serve both God and money" (Matthew 6:24).
Anonymous No.82815534 >>82815601
>>82815511
>This is why the left isn't doing well anywhere on earth
The left is ascendant globally. It's only America and America's declining sphere of influence that is obsessed with race politics.
You already lost, this blue Jew/red Jew game American politics plays is just theatrics to distract the proles from the fact their monopoly on consumerism is going the way of the British Empire.
Anonymous No.82815543 >>82815733
>>82815489
and YOU would do well to remember what the Christian American empire did to every communist country wherever they found them.
Anonymous No.82815561 >>82815575 >>82815601
>>82815497
>Multiple verses asking you to shed wealth away and give it to the poor
>Still twist his words
Unironically, your behavior is fitting for a christian lmao. Twisting the words of Christ to fit your own agenda is what Christianity has been about from its inception.
It has been used to justify war before, just like you're using it to justify wealth, a complete opposite of what jesus said.
Anonymous No.82815575 >>82815601 >>82815619 >>82816290
>>82815533
The passage from Luke 18 is about the verses you reference in Matthew 19, I am not sure why you are referencing it again, and Matthew 5-6, your second reference, is in reference to the practice of an eye for an eye and is as applicable to giving the government and billionaires what they demand from you. Don't assume what you read on reddit top comments is an accurate reflection of things redditors have an intense emotional investment in misinterpreting.
>>82815561
No, I am not twisting the words. Formulate your argument and I will give you a reply, or read this in the archive where I explain to someone trying to make your argument: https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/82755707/#q82760896
He did not reply, because he did not have an argument.
Anonymous No.82815584 >>82815601
>>82815497
>It wasn't necessarily about the rich man's wealth, but his service of it over that of God
Which can be said about any rich person. What a mountain of cope
Anonymous No.82815601 >>82815648
>>82815561
>>82815575
By the way, this heavily leans into the Christian Marxist interpretation of certain verses in Luke, Matthew, Acts, and some of the epistles. Write a full argument with all your evidence and I'll refute it on three bases
>1. You took the verses out of context:
As with anon here >>82815533 although he still has a "chance" to argue why it isn't out of context
>2. Open interpretation
Through conflicting verses
>3. Obviously incorrect by context
As with the rich Centurion.
>>82815584
Not really, unless you explain. Matthew 8, ironically, includes a rich man that is saved, which the anon above ignores.
>>82815534
Will reply to you soon.
Anonymous No.82815614 >>82815629
>>82815068
newsom is incompetent but the only real leader

i've been campaigning for him (unofficially) (i am responsible for like 60 reddit threads about him each with thousands of updoots) because he's the only one i trust to actually reciprocate against rightoids
Anonymous No.82815619 >>82815628 >>82815942 >>82816201 >>82816407
>>82815575
Bible verses lose meaning when you read something like "it's harder for a rich to enter heaven" and your conclusion is the exact opposite of what was said, that god somehow wanted you to be rich.
"The impossible is made possible with faith" could then be used to justify any and all sinful behavior, rendering your point moot.
It's a passage about obeying god's decree, and you are ignoring completely what the decree was: give wealth away.
Anonymous No.82815627 >>82815633 >>82815657
>>82815507
Are billionaires importing and hiring millions of immigrants? No, poorfags and leftists are doing that, dumbfuck libtard.
Anonymous No.82815628 >>82815723
>>82815619
No, that is strictly false because there are multiple instances in those very chapters with rich men being saved, without turning over their wealth.
Anonymous No.82815629
>>82815614
He takes money from J Pac, a California pro jewish group
Hes a shabbos goy, like you. You'll get nothing but more middle eastern wars and tax cuts for rich kikes.
Anonymous No.82815633 >>82815658 >>82815665 >>82815711 >>82815731
>>82815627
I am a rightist. This is a battle you will not win. Billionaires use leftists as uselful idiots to push immigration, and leftists themselves fuel the left/right idpol warfare by dying on the hill of progressivism. Billionaires are the root, leftists are a branch.
Anonymous No.82815648 >>82815668
>>82815601
A rich person is serving their own wealth before god. Matthew 19 is a parable describing that exact scenario, but you somehow twist it into meaning something completely different than what it is written.
>A rich person was saved
And god still told them to shed wealth away as per Mathew 19. And that's not the only passage where god commands abstinence from material wealth, there are others.
Your ability to twist these verses into a defense of wealth is a reminder of why and how religions are deemed meaningless through the power of semantics.
You could as easily argue that jesus as in favor of war. And it has been done before multiple times
Anonymous No.82815657 >>82815731
>>82815627
You voted for the billionaire, though.
Anonymous No.82815658 >>82815735
>>82815633
>Billionaires use leftists as uselful idiots to push immigration
It's not leftists being used. Don't conflate Democrats with The Left. Marx makes it very clear that immigration is bad for the working class.
Anonymous No.82815665 >>82815735
>>82815633
Billionaires push conservatism and right wing ideology, actually, to keep the working class from uniting as envisioned by leftist ideology.
That's why you voted for the billionaire being financed by other billionaires
Anonymous No.82815668 >>82815693 >>82815705
>>82815648
Why do you keep using this already refuted argument when I have shown you absolute textual proof that a rich man can be saved without giving away his wealth, retaining his servant/slave, and the prior verse quite literally explaining that this can happen through faith? And Jesus saying of the rich man
>When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
You can't win this. You need to acknowledge that Christianity is not Marxist. You can calm down and say
>I hate Christianity because it isn't marxist and here's why
This is a much better strategy.
Anonymous No.82815693 >>82815735
>>82815668
>absolute textual proof that a rich man can be saved without giving away his wealth
Because you ignore that anyone can be saved, and it doesn't change the fact that multiple times in Mathew god still condemned material wealth and spoke against it and in favor of redistribution.
Your whole argument relies on interpreting these verses in a way that is so semantically dishonest, you conclude the exact opposite of what has been said.
>But billionaires can go to heaven too!
Not the point.
The point is that god told them to give money away. The point was against material wealth.
Anonymous No.82815705 >>82815735
>>82815668
>Christianity is not Marxist
>God literally says it's harder for the rich to go to heaven
A mountain range of cope
Anonymous No.82815711 >>82815727 >>82815735
>>82815633
>dying on the hill of progressivism
The alternative is throwing minorities under the bus and becoming as vile as conservative right wingers.
That's a price that fascists are willing to pay, not us
Anonymous No.82815723 >>82815741 >>82815942
>>82815628
It doesn't change that god still told them to give their money away, and literally said it is harder for them to go to heaven.
You are relying on the fact that's not "impossible" completely ignoring what jesus said in his very own words.
Anonymous No.82815727
>>82815711
>muh minorities
They'll never accept you bro, you'll always be White and therefore their enemy
Anonymous No.82815731
>>82815633
>I am a rightist
ok libfuck
>>82815657
Anyone can be a billionaire if they aren't a lazy communist estrogenized faggot
Anonymous No.82815733
>>82815543
Not to china lmao
Anonymous No.82815735 >>82815778 >>82815783 >>82815792 >>82815830 >>82819037
>>82815658
So if you are going to start using the
>no true leftist
You are going to permit the
>no true rightist
or are you a brainless ideologue? Leftism is just as financed by billionaires, and all of progressivism is a parasitic infection used to kill marxism by occupying the proles with
>T-t-trans rights!
Even if it breaks up the proletariat.
>>82815665
Both are funded. If you think the alternative, Joe Biden or Kamala, were not of the same bourgeois class, then you are woefully retarded.
>>82815693
I'm going to explain again. The very chapter referenced says
>It is possible through faith.
And then shows a rich man being saved through faith, without getting rid of his servants or wealth. This is not a matter of twisting interpretation. You are ignoring verses you do not like to support your own intense emotional investment in proving a random religion agrees with you.
>>82815705
Nope.
>The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
And the rich man was saved in Matthew.
>>82815711
And this is why you will be occupied with identity politics forever. The only war is the class war, no? Then these, whether one race or another is exterminated, are just distractions. Unless you are a progressive and do not value the class war over all others.
Anonymous No.82815739 >>82815748
>>82815525
>Can't learn from history
It's probably why you think your republican golden epoch will last forever.
The pendulum always swings.
Anonymous No.82815741 >>82815759
>>82815723
No, he only told the rich man to go to heaven after he continued to ask for what to do. Jesus initially only told him to follow the commandments, and as an example to show he was just trying to flex his virtue, Jesus finally replies to give his wealth away. Read it yourself.
Anonymous No.82815746 >>82815828 >>82824578
>>82815511
>Republicans simply have no moral overlap with you. They do what they do because it benefits them, and they don't give a fuck how much you suffer.
That was never up to debate.
The point is, republican politics benefit billionaires. The working class who votes right wing are being used against their own personal interests, much like latino immigrants were used by trump and arguably turned the election.
Anonymous No.82815748 >>82815763 >>82815769
>>82815739
>It'll swing back to neoliberal zionist faggotry instead of neo-conservative zionist faggotry
WOWIE ZOWIE I LOVE DEMOCRACY!
Anonymous No.82815759 >>82815828
>>82815741
>after he continued to ask for what to do
And then Jesus said that the ultimate teat of his faith was to give up material wealth.
And the obvious, honest conclusion to this is that faith and material greed don't go hand in hand.
But somehow you twist that parable into meaning the exact opposite of that, and it becomes an ode to wealth.
Jesus spoke against material wealth more than 10 times in the bible by the way. And you twist every single one of those verses until they lose all meaning
Anonymous No.82815763 >>82822870
>>82815748
don't listen to that fag when the pendulum swings back it'll be a guillotine on the necks of the bourgeois.
Anonymous No.82815769 >>82815784
>>82815748
>neoliberal zionist
That's the current government actually. Neoliberalism means ultra capitalism with minimal government intervention and "free market". It doesn't mean cultural issues. You're mistaking it for progressivism.
Anonymous No.82815778 >>82815828
>>82815735
>Leftism is just as financed by billionaires,
For every "leftwing billionaire" there's a hundred right wing ones.
The right wing is the ideology of the billionaires, and it's the reason why the right wing president is a billionaire financed by billionaires
Anonymous No.82815783 >>82815828
>>82815735
>Joe Biden or Kamala
>Millionaires
>Donald trump
>Billionaire
Enough said
Anonymous No.82815784 >>82815799
>>82815769
I don't care. All we're getting is pure slop until isreal stops controlling both sides, and I dont see that ending anytime soon. Simple as.
I say cut all of isreals funding and use it to invest in infrastructure and universal Healthcare. Both sides would flip shit and not support this. Why?
Anonymous No.82815788
>>82814405
Arent democrats usually entirely focused in urban areas? How could republicans gerrymander?
Anonymous No.82815792 >>82815828
>>82815735
>>It is possible through faith.
Anything is possible through faith, as per that chapter.
The point is not that it's impossible for the rich to be absolved.
The point is that jesus and god made multiple theological points against wealth accumulation.
That much you ignore
Anonymous No.82815793 >>82815808
>spend the last 10 years campaigning for foreigners while throwing the majority of Americans under the bus
>Proceed to act surprised when Americans start hating you and you lose popularity
Anonymous No.82815799 >>82815814
>>82815784
Israel controls the right wing actually. "both sides" is just a centrist fallacy.
The right wing and Israel are one thing. They're the same
Anonymous No.82815808 >>82815820 >>82815872 >>82823981
>>82815793
>Just hate the immigrants and we will join you
I'm sorry that's a price we are just not willing to pay. Fascists are, though.
If we are doomed to repeat ww2, so be it. In the end we know who won and who lost.
Anonymous No.82815814
>>82815799
>AIPAC doesn't control both sides
roflcopter
Anonymous No.82815820 >>82815833 >>82815836
>>82815808
The American leftytard's brain is COOKED on WW2 movies. Holy shit.
Anonymous No.82815828 >>82815846 >>82815867 >>82815884
>>82815759
Are you using ChatGPT? There is no conceivable way someone could repeatedly come to a hallucinated conclusion unless they had genuine medical retardation or prompted an LLM to give a desperate, contrived reply without the context of the posts. Read - It - Your - Self.
Giving your money away as a proof of nothing is no fealty to God. Giving your money to a government hoping it will do right with it is no fealty to god. Despoiling yourself when your continued wealth can offer returns during your life and finally donated after is not worship of wealth.

Many rich are worshipers of wealth, but Matthew includes a chapter explicit in proving that this isn't an absolute law. This isn't up for debate or interpretation. Now you need to read the passage from Matthew your - self - instead of begging an LLM to do it. It's shorter than the word count of our replies so far.
>>82815746
The left does the same. A lot of these policies harm individuals of given classes and offer no benefit to the indoviduals so harmed; Many whites stand to lose much more than gain in the event of a "leftist" progressive victory. Early marxists predicted this in a way, and Engels and Marx both regreted not making it clearer that culture, ethnicity, ideology, etc., can all play a central role in conflict. Billionaires have engineered the modern left to have this parasitic relationship to multiculturalism, ignoring the reality of non-class strife. I can source these claims.
>>82815778
"Left wing" according to your idiosyncratic definition. As defined by me, there are no right wing billionaires. Again: You will just say:
>You need to use my definition of left and right only!
>>82815783
Not an argument.
>>82815792
No, it doesn't. It gives an example of a rich man being absolved three chapters later.
Anonymous No.82815830 >>82815840
>>82815735
>The only war is the class war, no?
The working class will be forever used by right wingers, conservatives and religious leaders, into fighting against itself. We could throw trannies, immigrants and niggers under the bus, it wouldn't change a thing. This is ancient history being repeated.
Anonymous No.82815833
>>82815820
Most WW2 vets hated niggers and kikes, they even had segregated units.
George Lincoln Rockwell was a WW2 vet lmao
Anonymous No.82815836 >>82815850 >>82816030
>>82815820
>Can't learn from history
I'm sorry your education was subpart
Probably the reason why you think the political pendulum isn't moving
Anonymous No.82815840 >>82815859
>>82815830
You are using the same fallacy of historical materialism as refuted by Walter Benjamin, and worse, of the sort that would make Marx turn in his grave.
Anonymous No.82815846 >>82815899
>>82815828
Didn't you read anything I wrote?
>The point is NOT that rich can't be saved
The point is that jesus and god spoke against wealth, greed and material gain, multiple times.
Anonymous No.82815850
>>82815836
Its more of a dreidel than a pendulum.
Anonymous No.82815859 >>82815899 >>82815988 >>82815990
>>82815840
And Theodor Adorno refuted walter benjamin. Your point?
The right wing will pit the working class against each other as it has done to you.
That's why you worry more about immigration and minorities, than you do about the real enemy, billionaires.
You even voted for one
Anonymous No.82815867 >>82815871 >>82815899
>>82815828
Donald trump being a thousand times more rich than Kamala abd biden together is a massive point: the right wing is the party of multi billionaires, and their leader is a multi billionaire
Anonymous No.82815871 >>82815888
>>82815867
Its a party of rich kikes, so is the left
America is a joke
Anonymous No.82815872 >>82815892 >>82815896
>>82815808
ok good luck losing lmao
Anonymous No.82815884 >>82815888 >>82815899
>>82815828
>Despoiling yourself when your continued wealth can offer returns during your life and finally donated after is not worship of wealth.
>Donated after
Except that's not what happens, the money isn't donated after it's passed on through generations and becomes old money.
How is giving money away no fealty to god when god himself commanded it, and went as far as to say
>It's harder for the rich to get into heaven
How can you interpret that as god giving you a free pass on wealth?
Anonymous No.82815888 >>82815896 >>82815902 >>82815960
>>82815871
No, anon. The right is the party of rich kikes.
>>82815884
Fascists lost in 45, though. The south lost the civil war. History is giving you hints of what's gonna happen next.
Anonymous No.82815892 >>82815906
>>82815872
Nah dude. We're totally gonna have a heckin communist revolution in like 2 weeks. We just have to read The Conquest Of Bread to all these illegal spics, and they'll join us in no time.
All these rich guys are absolutely seething about the open border slave labor they're getting via open borders.
Anonymous No.82815896 >>82815960
>>82815872
That was for you >>82815888
Have fun with a history book for once
Anonymous No.82815899 >>82815929
>>82815846
Yes, I read that part and ignored it because if your intent was to say that the rich must give away their wealth:
>It's a passage about obeying god's decree, and you are ignoring completely what the decree was: give wealth away.
then there is no reason for you to continue speaking. You kept speaking. If your only remaining point is
>Umm... you're um... you're right but umm... just don't um... just don't like umm... love wealth too much okay? but i was um... wrong you don't have to give your wealth away. lolz. sry
Then I graciously accept.
>>82815859
>And Theodor Adorno refuted
No he did not. Show me where he refuted Walter Benjamin's critique of Historical Materialism. I have read both. Name dropping makes you look like an imbecilic pseud.
>>82815867
This is another fallacy. Do you expect that there is a difference between a family of bourgeois servants to the billionaires and a billionaire? Both are 100% inseperable from bourgeois interests.

Oh? let me guess, you support reformist marxism. You are a literal reactionary socialist.
>>82815884
That is your projection of what happens. Giving away all wealth is not a permanent solution to the problem, and if you think it is, you still want bourgeois reform of a capitalist system rather than socialism.
Anonymous No.82815902 >>82815919
>>82815888
>muh fake kike history I learned about in middle school
Get off Facebook, boomer
Anonymous No.82815906 >>82815921
>>82815892
No revolution. The right wing government will collapse unto itself, though, as prophecized by Isaiah himself
Anonymous No.82815914
>she's having another meltdown over d4 j00z
again
Anonymous No.82815919 >>82815927
>>82815902
>Historical facts
>Fake
Oh yes, there it is. The party of lies, misinformation and revision of history.
Anonymous No.82815921 >>82815937
>>82815906
2 more weeks
20 million more illegals
comrades in control
trust th plan

Left wing boomer Q shit lmao
Anonymous No.82815927 >>82815945
>>82815919
Nope. Just the party of kikes, just like the other side.
Anonymous No.82815929 >>82815942
>>82815899
>your intent was to say that the rich must
>Must
There's your twisting semantics again.
I never said the rich must do anything
Christ still spoke against material wealth and material gains, multiple times.
You need multiple paragraphs to cope with the fact that christian theology is not pro wealth accumulation and christ didn't walk alongside the rich as much as he walked alongside the poor.
Anonymous No.82815937 >>82815955
>>82815921
It's the right wing that promotes fake news, not us. In fact you tried to sell the story of Qanon only to go around and vote for a pedophile billionaire yourself
Anonymous No.82815942 >>82815953
>>82815929

>>82815619
>It's a passage about obeying god's decree, and you are ignoring completely what the decree was: give wealth away.

>>82815723
>It doesn't change that god still told them to give their money away, and literally said it is harder for them to go to heaven.
>You are relying on the fact that's not "impossible" completely ignoring what jesus said in his very own words.
Want me to go through all of the replies?
Anonymous No.82815945 >>82815970
>>82815927
The right wing is the party of kikes and Israel.
The right wing is Israel.
Anonymous No.82815953 >>82815990
>>82815942
The decree was to give wealth away. Like you said, that doesn't mean someone who fails to that gets a ticket to hell, because anything is possible through faith remember?
It still means that god and jesus were not fond of wealth accumulation though. You have a hard time coping with that.
Anonymous No.82815955 >>82815958
>>82815937
I'm probably more left wing than you lmao
We need America Juche
Anonymous No.82815958 >>82815964
>>82815955
Tell me how you're a leftie if you defend trump and billionaires?
Anonymous No.82815960 >>82815978
>>82815896
>>82815888
uhhh anon what party was jefferson davis part of? what party was lincoln part of? also in no world were the confederates fascist lmao
Anonymous No.82815964
>>82815958
I don't. Trump is a child molester who sucks kike cock like epsteins
Anonymous No.82815970 >>82815985
>>82815945
it's getting old, trump becomes more anti-israel by the day, he's probably cooperated with them and sucked up to them the least compared to every other president. It's not 2018 anymore. And acting like the democratic party doesn't worship kikes is insane
Anonymous No.82815973 >>82815975
Not to disrupt you guys' feces-throwing competition, but I'd like to call attention to the fact that our quality of life continues to decline no matter who is in charge.
Anonymous No.82815975
>>82815973
Because America is an open air insane asylum shopping mall tax farm for isreal no matter who runs it
Anonymous No.82815978 >>82816015
>>82815960
What you mean political parties changed their ethos in 200 years?
Shocking for a right winger
Anonymous No.82815985 >>82816001
>>82815970
>trump becomes more anti-israel
Delusional.
Trump gave more money to Israel in 6 months than democrats did in literally years.
Anonymous No.82815988 >>82815997
>>82815859
>criminal rapist thieving nogs are actually not a problem because Trump is a billionaire
Woah..... you got him, sister!
Anonymous No.82815990 >>82816008
>>82815953
No, it wasn't a decree to give wealth away. Read Matthew right now. Jesus only told the rich man to follow the commandments, and when pressed again, he tells the rich man to give everything away and become a disciple if he was so faithful. Jesus makes no such generalized decree to the Centurion or Cornelius who had many slaves/servants and did not give them away, because it was never a requirement.

Now all you can do is say
>umm.. so like um... just don't be all fond of it lolz
>i had nothing to say um... lol
Yeah. Try again or quit posting when you are factually incorrect.
>>82815859
Still waiting for that Adorno passage. Let's see the infamous refutation and hear your take on it.
Anonymous No.82815996
>>82814365 (OP)
Why are tweets getting stupider? This makes it sound like the courts struck down a section that allowed repubs to redraw districts, or the opposite of what its trying to say
Anonymous No.82815997 >>82816038
>>82815988
>Nogs are the biggest problem
>Not the elites sucking the soul out of the working class and driving inflation up
An example of how right wingers are used by billionaires via racism.
Anonymous No.82816001 >>82816018 >>82816023
>>82815985
literally untrue but okay bro.
Anonymous No.82816008 >>82816023
>>82815990
>It's not a decree to give wealth away
>he tells the rich man to give everything away
Retard.
He literally says it's harder for the rich to go to heaven.
Not impossible, but harder. Do you think that sentiment is pro wealth?
Anonymous No.82816012 >>82817049
>>82815081
>It's Trump's fault that inflation went over 10% way back in 2022
Anonymous No.82816015 >>82816026
>>82815978
I mean, you're the one who told me to get my hints from history, and what I'm looking at is democrats losing a civil war to republicans
Anonymous No.82816018 >>82816027
>>82816001
>20 billions for Israel in the first month of rule
Delusional
Anonymous No.82816023 >>82816036 >>82816099 >>82816120
>>82816001
Anon's problem is equivocating Israel with the Jews, when Israel is like one tiny head of a massive international hydra. Policy on Israel makes essentially no difference when Kamala and Biden were extremely pro-Jewish.
>>82816008
Now you are walking back to a previously refuted argument. Three chapters later it shows how easy it is with faith. Jesus even explains, only a few verses after the one with the rich man, that he could have been saved if he had faith, and then promptly we get the rich man saved through faith without giving his wealth.

You are an actual, bona fide imbecile.
Anonymous No.82816026 >>82816047
>>82816015
And if you had done your homework, you would have realized the the label "democrat" and "republican" means less than the actual content of their politics, and 200 years ago republicans were the ones defending nigger rights
A far cry from today
Anonymous No.82816027 >>82816045
>>82816018
>400 trillion in the first day of rule
>my source? just trust me bro
Anonymous No.82816030
>>82815836
American soldiers in WW2 be like "Dude! We are fighting to SAVE THE BLACKS AND GAYS and like racism is BAD."
Anonymous No.82816036 >>82816044
>>82816023
>Israel is like one tiny head
>Literally the central Jewish state
We really lived long enough to see right wingers become Zionists. Hitler would be fuming
Anonymous No.82816038 >>82816056
>>82815997
Nogs are just another tool of the rich. They were used to great effect to destroy small businesses and enrich billionaires in 2020. If you were paying attention, you'd get it, but you're blinded by ideology. Immigrants are another tool of the rich as well, I'm sure if you let go of your ideological biases you would be able to figure out why. You could actually take a look at the leaked Amazon documents to see how they are used as tools, they lay it out in pretty clear terms. But I know, I know, you're comfortable in your bubble. You have to feel good about yourself and morally posture above the rednecks or whatever.
Anonymous No.82816044 >>82816049
>>82816036
If you blow up Israel while remaining rabidly pro-Jewish progressives, Jews will still have all of their massive supply of wealth and influence in the West. Destroying israel is good because it is jews, but it makes no difference if the Jews themselves are not the target.
Anonymous No.82816045 >>82816066
>>82816027
You won't apologize for being wrong
https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-20-billion-weapons-us-aid-b6a99129c88a5dcc4a4753e20b5e19ec
Anonymous No.82816047 >>82816064
>>82816026
>winning a war is based on how much you defend nigger rights
Anonymous No.82816049 >>82816055
>>82816044
You downplay Israel like a literal zionist would do.
The right wing is Israel after all, here's an example of right winger undying support
Anonymous No.82816055 >>82816068
>>82816049
The Jews absolutely dominated western politics before Israel was even a state. Yes, it is not as much of a problem as Jews themselves are.
Anonymous No.82816056 >>82816095
>>82816038
You are the tool of the rich.
That's why you voted for a literal billionaire
Anonymous No.82816059
>>82814365 (OP)
Is that in addition to what texas is doing? California doesn't have enough seats to counter that then. Illinois is already gerrymandered to the limit, not sure where new york stands but that's probably their only hope in squeezing more juice into their party if that goes through.
Anonymous No.82816062 >>82816083 >>82816109 >>82816123
>>82815409
you arent so indoctrinated and outright fucking braindead that you think the democrats are leftists, are you?

jesus fucking christ, the education of the average american


every single one of conservative opinions either directly serves billionaires or makes you start shit in a culture war so you avoid understanding the necessity of class war, also serving billionaires

youre pathetic tools for people who hate you, and youll never ever possess the intelligence or introspective capacity to understand that
Anonymous No.82816064 >>82816074
>>82816047
And yet the side defending nigger rights won. Learn from it.
Anonymous No.82816066 >>82816078
>>82816045
wow, the title alone is different from what you said and you link a shitty site that requires me to spend money or disable adblocker. Are you just a retard who sees "20 billion" and "israel" and immediately thinks we just send 20 billion in cash on a boat to israel?
Anonymous No.82816068 >>82816083
>>82816055
The jews dominated the right wing and they dominated you by extension which is how you are defending Israel by downplaying how much kike cut cock trump sucks
Anonymous No.82816074 >>82816085
>>82816064
what about their defense of niggers made them win
Anonymous No.82816077
Big dick Cali and NY will just counter anything they do in these garbage states
Anonymous No.82816078 >>82816111
>>82816066
>Not an argument
I told you wouldn't apologize. Right wingers aren't that honest.
That's how countries give off money to allies. They finance Israel's war.
Anonymous No.82816083 >>82816481
>>82816062
>unsubstantiated claims x 4
>ad hominems x 5
>Argument: None
Interesting. Try again?
>>82816068
This is not an argument. The leftist is philosemitic and supports jews, opposes antisemitism, etc. Israel has roughly as many Jews as the USA, and jews internationally outnumber jews in Israel by a large number.

Israel itself is one nest of insects. Harming it makes no difference, because the primary power of jews comes from western jews in positions of power that are not Israeli.
Anonymous No.82816085 >>82816128
>>82816074
Correlation doesn't mean causation. The nigger defending party won, and history will repeat when the war is over.
Anonymous No.82816095 >>82816144
>>82816056
I don't vote because my state isn't a swing state. Not that it's relevant. You're no less a pawn than a Trump voter. If you aren't in power, you're a pawn. Or do you think you're an exception because you went to the voting booth one day every 4 years and voted blue? Surely you can't be that delusional.

Anyway, the only thing I have to tell you is to go take a look at the leaked Amazon documents about "diversity" and how they use immigrants as tools. I know your bubble is comfortable, but it inhibits your growth. If you don't do it, just be honest with yourself and others and say you're scared of the truth.
Anonymous No.82816099 >>82816140
>>82816023
>how easy it is with faith
Jesus literally says it's hard though.
Your whole point relies on ignoring this simple statement:
>Jesus spoke against material wealth and greed
That much you can't refute, and didn't even attempt to. You're just coping hard with the tiny chance of salvation, ignoring what jesus actually said about wealth
Anonymous No.82816109 >>82816129 >>82816130 >>82816481
>>82816062
The people who call themselves "leftists" here are just neoliberal larpers who value sucking nigger, tranny, zionist, and illegal cock over actual workers rights
Anonymous No.82816111 >>82816136
>>82816078
>actually I changed the meaning of my words so I'm not wrong!
Anonymous No.82816120 >>82816140
>>82816023
>Jesus even explains, only a few verses after the one with the rich man, that he could have been saved if he had faith
And he still says it's harder for him
And still speaks against material gain
And you twist it into the exact opposite
>Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
Jesus when he meets your rich defending ass
Anonymous No.82816123
>>82816062
yes daddyyyyy >-<
Anonymous No.82816128
>>82816085
I don't think you understand the civil war
Anonymous No.82816129 >>82816148
>>82816109
>If you don't love Dear Leader, you're all these bad, gay things I hate
You argue like a child
Anonymous No.82816130 >>82816164
>>82816109
>zionist
That's right wingers actually. It's why trump hold hands with Netanyahu
Anonymous No.82816136 >>82816159
>>82816111
>20 billions fir Israel's war is not 20 billions fir Israel
Retard. Typical right winger
Anonymous No.82816140 >>82816162 >>82816181 >>82816191
>>82816099
>That much you can't refute, and didn't even attempt to.
That's because it's irrelevant. You are desperately trying to move the goalpost somewhere else. The desperation is giving me secondhand cringe.
Do you want me to show you again where the goalpost is?
>Jesus literally says it's hard though.
But all things are possible through faith. With faith, it is easy, because all you need is faith. You should reads acts where Paul sets forth the model for Christian tithe and almsgiving. Not socialist.

Here is my initial argument: >>82815497
The statement is not one that one should or should not give one's wealth away:
>Jesus tells him all that is necessary here. The rich man, just as the Pharisee in verse 11, "exalteth himself," considering himself a Christian yet refuses when confronted with Christ commanding him to abandon his wealth. The quotation is not to say that it is a commandment that one should be poor, but an example of a hypocrite who would not listen even if God stood before him.
>The impossibility of passing through the eye of the needle is made possible through Faith. It wasn't necessarily about the rich man's wealth, but his service of it over that of God. Ergo, it is not a commandment to give all money away.
This is why you have to desperately try to say I "didn't try to refute" some random topic that is irrelevant. You have nothing to say.
>>82816120
Read the above. With faith, it is guaranteed.
Anonymous No.82816144 >>82816154
>>82816095
>Centrist fallacy
The right wing is using the working class with the power of religion and bigotry into voting against their own interests
Anonymous No.82816148 >>82816175
>>82816129
Why do you assume anyone you disagree with likes that zionist child molester?
Maybe try Facebook if thats your strategy?
You're a left VS right lightswitch brain nigger retard golem, lower than cattle.
Anonymous No.82816150
>>82814365 (OP)
Unironically true. I don't know what fucking retard thought we should have people like maxine waters and jasmine crocket at the forefront of the party, you don't beat retards by going
>look we got fucking retards too!
massive blunder there
Anonymous No.82816154 >>82816167
>>82816144
>against their own interests
Those interests are your interpretation of what an interest should be. What one values is subjective.
Anonymous No.82816159
>>82816136
didn't read the article he posted award
Anonymous No.82816162 >>82816187
>>82816140
>Christ's remarks against wealth and material gain are irrelevant
>Arguing about christian ethos regarding wealth and material gain
Your paragraphs are hills of coping mechanisms and semantic twisting of the bible.
Anonymous No.82816164 >>82816176 >>82816481
>>82816130
Yeah bro, the democrats are totally anti isreal. Rich kikes that use mossad to blackmail politicians would never buy out both sides.
Anonymous No.82816167 >>82816187
>>82816154
>Poor people voting against worker rights and pro billionaires
Used by the right wing award
Anonymous No.82816175
>>82816148
>Immediately resorts to namecalling and shit flinging because he has no argument
Anonymous No.82816176
>>82816164
The right wing is 10 times more of a puppet of Israel than the left
Anonymous No.82816178
I almost feel bad at this point but I'm still glad it's happening.
Anonymous No.82816181 >>82816201
>>82816140
>But all things are possible through faith
He still makes theological points against wealth and greed.
Your silence about that is deafening.
The goalpost is the same: Christianity isn't pro wealth, unless you twist it.
Like people twisted it in the past to be pro war or pro slavery, you do it now regarding wealth. Typical protestant.
Anonymous No.82816187 >>82816200 >>82816201
>>82816162
Yes, this is you moving the goalpost because I am not arguing that one should value wealth over God. That is the function of my very first argument:
>yet refuses when confronted with Christ commanding him to abandon his wealth.
When one is presented with a choice of doing right or keeping one's wealth, one should abandon their wealth to follow God. Yet this is not a universal command, as illustrated in the later chapters and books. I am not going to let you make a strawman out of my argument.
>>82816167
>votes biden / kamala
>supports bourgeois socialism, delaying revolutionary reform
>supports progressive politics pushed by the billionaires to drive wages down
This is not an argument. Anyone can do this, continuously and forever.
Anonymous No.82816189 >>82816198 >>82818725
What's the end goal here for republicans? I already don't have healthcare, but I work 37-38 hours a week. A bad private plan that won't even let me see my doctors or pay for my meds is about $300 a month. I make $19/hr. I have a college degree, and eight years of IT experience. I apply to entry level helpdesk roles and they payu $23/hr (with benefits to be fair).

I can make $23/hr but that puts me no closer to home ownership, or affording a much-needed new vehicle. I excelled at my roles but every pay raise I got pretty much was like a $1-2$/hr bump. It's not enough to even approach living comfortably. Everything keeps going up in cost. And there's a pedophile as president, surrounded by a cabal of pedos?

What is the end goal? I'm serious, how is this helping any American?
Anonymous No.82816191 >>82816201
>>82816140
>random topic that is irrelevant
Jesus speaking against wealth and saying it is harder for the rich to be saved is irrelevant to a discussion about Christianity's take on wealth?
Anonymous No.82816198 >>82816211 >>82816227
>>82816189
You're just a dumb nigger, none of this changes under democrats.
This only changes when isreal stops controlling the US.
Anonymous No.82816200 >>82816233
>>82816187
>I am not arguing that one should value wealth over God
Not openly. You are just denying that god and jesus have denounced the moral failing of wealth and greed. Which is semantically the same.
Your whole game is twisting semantics though. You are not arguing about the only issue that matters here:
>Jesus is not pro wealth
To say that is harder for a rich person to be saved, is not a favourable thing to say for the wealthy.
Anonymous No.82816201 >>82816216 >>82816233 >>82816235
>>82816181
Read this post: >>82816187
I am not arguing this irrelevant strawman. My refutation is of this: >>82815619
God's decree is strictly not to give wealth away. It is included in none of the commandments.
>>82816191
No, it's irrelevant to the argument. The original post was false, and that is what is being refuted.
Anonymous No.82816211 >>82816231
>>82816198
Democrats are the lesser evil. Republicans are downright inhumane.
Anonymous No.82816216 >>82816233
>>82815405
>>82816201
Actually, the original refutation if it was here, which I hope you remember: >>82815405
>>If you love god, give all your money to the poor
I keep quoting the other one but this is to let you know unambiguously what the point being refuted is.
Anonymous No.82816227 >>82816237
>>82816198
K, thanks for the non-answer. Let's get another wacko non-actionable take? How about we build a raft and sail to Antarctica and reclaim Hypborea too?
Unironically, I do not believe the right has answers to the problems of Americans. Israel? Gotta get dem JeWzz lmao. Please for the love of god run with that in public
Anonymous No.82816231
>>82816211
Whatever. Keep voting, I'm sure it'll help.
It's so convenient that the evil people that control everything have a simple way to kick them out, what dummies.
Anonymous No.82816233 >>82816247 >>82816248
>>82816200
>>82816201
>>82816216 (me, deleted to quote the correct post)
Actually, the original refutation of it was here, which I hope you remember: >>82815405
>>If you love god, give all your money to the poor
I keep quoting the other one but this is to let you know unambiguously what the point being refuted is. Now you cannot move the goalpost or invent a strawman.
Anonymous No.82816235 >>82816248
>>82816201
>I am not arguing [Christianity view of wealth and material richness]
That's all we've been arguing lmao.
You know you've hit a wall and have no arguments to counter Jesus' own words, so you are rooting your feet on the ground of this one verse
Forgetting the 10-15 passages where Christ denounced material gain, wealth and the rich altogether.
Christ literally says it's harder for them to be saved, and your conclusion is completely asinine
>Harder isn't impossible
It's like you want to risk living on the fringes of faith for your wealth, which is exactly what Christ denounced
Anonymous No.82816237 >>82816257
>>82816227
I don't think the Republicans have answers either, they're kike golem
Why do you niggers keep framing shit in a two party way?
Anonymous No.82816238
Allow me to settle this debate:
God is not real. The alleged words of a bronze-age schizophrenic jew are completely irrelevant to the year 2025. Demographically, the people are sick of having to hear about your jewish book club.
Anonymous No.82816247 >>82816256
>>82816233
>Ignores the other dozens of verses condemning wealth
Only then you could twist Christ into being favouring towards the rich.
Anonymous No.82816248 >>82816259
>>82816235
No it isn't you imbecile. Read here: >>82816233
The point that has remained consistent and unchanged is that there is no universal decree whatsoever to give all one's wealth away.

You keep trying to move the goalpost.
Anonymous No.82816256 >>82816266 >>82816281
>>82816247
Christ is favoring to all in the Bible itself. This is kind of the point. He is not engaging in class warfare.
Anonymous No.82816257 >>82816278
>>82816237
Anon you forgot to mention Israel!
Anonymous No.82816259 >>82816263
>>82816248
>Multiple verses denouncing wealth and material gain
>Literally says the rich are harder to save
Your silence about those is deafening.
Anonymous No.82816263 >>82816273
>>82816259
There is no silence, you're just deaf and dumb. I refuted it many times.
Anonymous No.82816266 >>82816274
>>82816256
>Christ is favoring to all
>Still says the rich have a smaller chance of salvation
>Still condemned wealth
Keep twisting his words to defend your own agenda.

>Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
Anonymous No.82816273 >>82816290
>>82816263
You literally refused to talk about any verses except the "original one" about giving money away
You literally have reached the exhaustion of your arguments
Anonymous No.82816274 >>82816285 >>82816294
>>82816266
>still says the rich are saved like anyone else with faith
You only make yourself look more pathetic and desperate every post. Christ favors all, that's the point.
Anonymous No.82816278
>>82816257
Yeah, they own the entire US. Thats why we can't actually get anything done here.
Instead of investing in healthcare, infrastructure, ect. We're babysitting a genocidal racial supremacist state the size of New Jersey,and giving them trillions of dollars that could be spent on the American people.
Anonymous No.82816281 >>82816305
>>82816256
>He is not engaging in class warfare
>The rich are less likely to be saved
>Denounced wealth 15 times
>You can't serve god and money
Delusional.
Anonymous No.82816285 >>82816305
>>82816274
>Still says the rich will have a harder time being saved than others
Doesn't sound like he's favouring the rich, he's clearly putting them on different tier compared to others.
Twist it further.
Anonymous No.82816290 >>82816304
>>82816273
No, here is the first argument I gave: >>82815497
Where I mention this specifically:
>And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.
The rich man believes he would follow God no matter what, but what would he do if God asked him to abandon his bourgeois lifestyle?
>Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
>And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
>And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
>For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
This surprises the Christians, realizing that not many would be able to do so. This is why they ask:
>And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved?
>And he (Jesus) said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
The impossibility of passing through the eye of the needle is made possible through Faith. It wasn't necessarily about the rich man's wealth, but his service of it over that of God. Ergo, it is not a commandment to give all money away.

And in the archive I link, >>82815575
>of their property, using the proceeds to distribute the goods rather than establishing a Communist or Socialist system. We can see it again in chapter four ...
>This system here described is an early form of the clergy, rather than that which would be applied to all people as a whole. We should see in Paul the official decree that Christians should give away everything they have but, ...
>Now about the collection for the Lord's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.
What we get is taxation.
Anonymous No.82816294 >>82816305
>>82816274
>Christ favors all
>"Away from me, evildoers"
Twisting his words is not a good look
Anonymous No.82816304 >>82816326
>>82816290
>Repeating himself
No further arguments I see.
>How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
>Goes further and criticizes wealth and greed in other 10 passages
It takes a monumental act of semantic twisting to conclude that Christ wasn't against material wealth accumulation.
Anonymous No.82816305 >>82816327 >>82816335 >>82816341
>>82816281
I'm sorry if you're too stupid and emotional to think or read, but that's your own problem.
>>When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
>And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
>But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
>And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.
The rich man is saved. There is no favoring, only an assessment that if one is attached to wealth over god, it will of course be difficult to let go of what one has if it means doing right.
>>82816285
Nope, he treats the rich man just as well, even saying he has not found better.
>>82816294
And being wealthy is no evildoing. Want to quote the passage in James about evil rich men?
Anonymous No.82816320
>>82814365 (OP)
>American politics always devolve into debating the Bible(a jewish book)
>America somehow isn't controlled by kikes
lmao
Anonymous No.82816326 >>82816350
>>82816304
>It takes a monumental act of semantic twisting to conclude that Christ wasn't against material wealth accumulation.
This is not the point, this is you making a visibly desperate attempt to move the goalpost. Here is the original argument:
>>82815405
>If you love god, give all your money to the poor
Immediately refuted: >>82815497

Try again. Your desperation is palpable.
Anonymous No.82816327 >>82816407
>>82816305
>The rich man is saved.
He still said it's harder for them to be saved.
He still denounced material wealth.
You hold on to the possibility of salvation despite wealth, ignoring the key point of this argument: despite wealth
Jesus once more has attributed a negative connotation to this wealth, as a hindrance to faith.
Christian theology is fundamentally anti wealth.
Anonymous No.82816335 >>82816407
>>82816305
>he treats the rich man just as well
Then why did he say that rich people will have a harder time entering heaven?
Anonymous No.82816341 >>82816407
>>82816305
>And being wealthy is no evildoing
Twisting his words is evil. It's what you're doing by denying he spoke against wealth, when he did it multiple times
Anonymous No.82816347
I will never vote for Democrats as long as the Democrats are aggro towards white men. I'm white. I'm not voting for people that are constantly shitting on me. Not happening. They need to clean up the racism on their side of the isle.
Anonymous No.82816350 >>82816407
>>82816326
I think you are desperately denying to address the multiple passages where Christ says the opposite of what you are saying.
That's not moving the goalpost. Christian theology on wealth is the goalpost. You have hit a wall where you know you can't possibly defend wealth with everything Christ said against it, so you just choose silence instead. Deafening silence.
Anonymous No.82816352 >>82816397
Marx is the only future America has that doesn't end with being enslaved by Jews. Are you ready to join the American side or are you gonna continue shitting and pissing yourselves over the Red Jew vs Blue Jew spectacle?
Anonymous No.82816397 >>82816417
>>82816352
Both sides find infinite excuses to keep voting. This country is cooked, it's over.
We'll be Brazil 2.0 in like 10-20 years.
Anonymous No.82816407 >>82816460
>>82816327
You make yourself look more and more imbecilic with every post. I'll have to say it ad infinitum: >>82815405
>If you love god, give all your money to the poor
>>82815619
>It's a passage about obeying god's decree, and you are ignoring completely what the decree was: give wealth away.
This is all that needs to be refuted.
>>82816335
Because it is harder to let go of what one has the more one has, but this is not a favoring of the poor. It is simply a favoring ot the good. Even so, Jesus sat with sinners, as it is said in James that
>For there is no respect of persons with God.
As stated later in that chapter, as I say again and again, a rich man who did not give his wealth away:
>When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
>>82816341
>y-you're evil!
Fascinating argument.
>>82816350
I am not denying them. I am refuting one single topic, and you are trying to change the goalpost to one about a qualitative assessment of wealth in Christianity, but wealth itself, again as I said, is not wrong or evil. You have already received plenty of refutations.

It's very amusing to see your desperation but it makes me feel genuinely bad for you.
Anonymous No.82816417
>>82816397
>We'll be Brazil 2.0 in like 10-20 years.
America is more like Russia or the various other failed Petrostates ruled by a few rich people. Texas was the blueprint and it's being exported to the rest of the country. Brazil is still politically dominated by the poor while the rich hide in gated communities, but Petrostates just have a single ruling class and everyone else is a serf with no hope of economic mobility. Ending up like Brazil would be unironically better than what's coming. America will not survive this century.
Anonymous No.82816460
>>82816407
>Because it is harder to let go of what one has the more one has, but this is not a favoring of the poor.
And as an additional explanation of this, this is essentially the reasoning behind the skepticism towards marriage that Paul espouses: It is more difficult to focus on God the more obligations one has (in so many words). It is not a condemnation of marriage in the same sense that Matthew and Luke don't condemn wealth itself.
This can go on forever. You will never be informed if your source of information is reddit TIL posts, top comments, and LLMs. Read the text yourself.

Still waiting for that Adorno passage btw, I'm sure anons aren't just copy pasting memes and LLM outputs.
Anonymous No.82816481 >>82816544 >>82816576
>>82816083
>leftist is philosemitic
ahahaha okay, an american education in action

>>82816109
for sure yeah, leftists love zionists.

>>82816164
we were talking about leftists, what do democrats have to do with anything

holy fuck this is great, just endless proving my point about americans being so fucking stupid that they think democrats are leftists. jesus christ, the state of your education system and your collective capacity for introspection is truly something depressing
Anonymous No.82816544 >>82816734
>>82816481
No. We have have "leftist" in the US, but they vote for neoliberal zionist democrats because they're just larpers who like the "radical aesethics" at the end of the day.
There is zero revolutionary potential in the US. Protesting ICE so we can have more Amazon/Walmart slave labor isn't leftist.
Arm up and do shit, or shut the fuck up is what I say. Larping is supposed to be for the right wing.
Anonymous No.82816576 >>82826528
>>82816481
Yes, leftists are philosemitic. Are you antisemitic? Do you think leftism is antisemitic or does it support the rights and equality of jews? Philosemitism does not equal zionism.
Anonymous No.82816734 >>82816892 >>82817323
>>82816544
>No. We have have "leftist" in the US
America does not have a Left. We only have two right-wing parties and both of them work for Jews that want to enslave you.
Anonymous No.82816823
>>82814365 (OP)
Bro I love the Republican party, seeing trump and watching asmongold unironically makes me happy. I'm watching Asmongold right now while playing Minecraft in my XP farm. The meme timeline is real, and I love it
Anonymous No.82816892 >>82817043
>>82816734
I know this
That's why America is doomed. Both parties are centered around how much they love jews.
It's simply not stable....
Anonymous No.82816997 >>82817009
>>82815127
It makes sense when you understand republicans are Democrats mugged by reality
If you vote for people because they promise free stuff paid for by other people, you notice places where they've been in power for a long time don't have many rich people left, and have very low quality free stuff
Anonymous No.82817009
>>82816997
And the sole exceptions (e.g., NYC, San Francisco) are propped up by being old HQs of various crumbling service industries.
Anonymous No.82817013
>>82815342
What proof is there he is a pedophile?
Isn't it just speculation?
Anonymous No.82817030
>>82815507
Was it the left wing or right wing who was defending lockdowns and making the enforcement of authoritarian totalitarian policy their personal duty?
Anonymous No.82817036
>>82815533
Where does Jesus talk about giving money to the government so they can give money to the poor instead of just giving to the poor directly?
It's not like government welfare wasn't a thing in the time of Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cura_annonae
The bread dole was a formalized government as of 22AD, Jesus would have known about it. Why doesn't he endorse it if he wants government redistribution?
Anonymous No.82817043 >>82817157
>>82816892
There's one party that can save us and has no connection to Jews or race wars.
Anonymous No.82817049
>>82816012
Yes, actually. He signed the budgets. The money printer didn't happen in 2022.
Anonymous No.82817157
>>82817043
And it's clearly not democrats, or republicans that will save us.
We need a revolutionary 3rd party. We absolutely need a 3rd solution.
I'm a literal faggot White man and refuse to vote for neolib zionist slop or neo-conservatard zionist slop.
I want a pro worker anti zionist party, and refuse to comprise, we need a party that works for the people.
Anonymous No.82817171
>>82814391
They also couldn't help but to die on the most retarded hills that they don't even agree with.
Anonymous No.82817189 >>82817244 >>82817892
Why didn't prices go up while Trump was president if he was responsible for the inflation?
Anonymous No.82817244 >>82818171
>>82817189
did you memoryhole covid or something where do you think inflation came from did it just materialize out of thin air because God doesn't like Biden?
Anonymous No.82817313
>>82814365 (OP)
Most of those districts will be swing districts with a constant inflow of shitlibs from Commiefornia and New York that will absolutely fuck over Republicans come midterms or 2028. Trump has no momentum anymore beside boomers and his cult since he torpedoed the economy with his retarded tariffs, is all about starting foreign wars for Israel and oil, and lied about releasing the Epstein files. I live in a district that absorbed an urban district and I'm not looking forward to having a Democrat representative.
>>82814818
Republicans love immigrants though, just look at Vivek, Kash Patel, and JD Vance's wife (his beard). My boomer Trump cultist parents love Indians too and agree with Vivek and Elon that Americans are lazy and we need to import more legal immigrants to replace us. There is no actual anti-immigration party in the United States, and we will all be poorer and browner because of it.
>>82814974
Which is bullshit and anti-democratic since people deserve to be represented by someone from their community. Blacks should have their own black districts so they can be represented by a fellow black.
Anonymous No.82817323
>>82816734
Other way around, commie. There is no right-wing party in the US, there is the far-left Democrats and the left-wing Republicans. Republicans love immigration, globalism, gay marriage, multiculturalism, and government intervention in the economy to give globalist corporations and pedophile billionaires money. Republicans have not been conservative since Richard Nixon, the last halfway decent president in this country who was overthrown in a CIA coup. The only remotely conservative voice in this country is Tucker Carlson, a literal CIA asset who exists to spy on Russia and make sure his movement never takes off.
Anonymous No.82817460
Society is healing, funny all the "right side of history" people are going extinct
Anonymous No.82817892
>>82817189
because velocity of money, retard
Anonymous No.82818171
>>82817244
Covid started in January of 2020, with the serious phase beginning in march of 2020
Donald Trump was president between January of 2020, and Janaury of 2021 and had 1.4% inflation for the year he handled COVID
Anonymous No.82818587 >>82818834
>>82814405
Many of the maps in South Carolina were drawn to give minorities "more representation" i.e discrimination on the basis of race.
Anonymous No.82818595 >>82818834
>>82814405
For more context, South Carolina had maps, and the federal government forced them to redraw them to give niggers more votes because of the section 2 of the voting rights app. So if it's struck down that ruling no longer applies
Anonymous No.82818725 >>82818899
>>82816189
>I make $19/hr. I have a college degree, and eight years of IT experience.
lol, lmao
I don't have a degree and I work from home making 106k/yr

What's the past tense of scammed? Is it scrumped? Anon, I think you got scrumped.
Anonymous No.82818834
>>82818587
>>82818595
Ahh thank you anon that makes sense
Anonymous No.82818884 >>82821782
>>82814818
No they didn't. Most people have a problem with the way immigration is handled and every body want illegal immigrats out.
Anonymous No.82818899
>>82818725
>106/k a year
Lol that's cute, if I had a small ego I'd make shit up too and try to brag to nobodies, but the thing is once you have real successful, like me, you just don't feel like you need to.
Anonymous No.82818935 >>82824057
>>82814818
It's not scapegoating when they're actually causing the problems. Look at the FBI crime stats by race for 5 fucking seconds, Europe doesn't even make these stats available for a reason. Anti-White race traitor lefties want to give 75 IQ browns carte blanche to do as they please across Europe and North America while simultaneously living on the government's dime, working illegally (if at all, and if they do they're getting paid under the table and paying no taxes), and generally being a massive fucking burden on already struggling systems, not to mention a bitchy, whiny, subversive nuisance to White western culture. You'd think they'd show some fucking gratitude for the benefits they're given just for existing while brown in the west, but no.
Anonymous No.82818957
>>82814365 (OP)
None of this district bullshit matters. Dems lost forever because AOC hated on manlets and doubled down on it. There's no recovering from that.
Dems have two remaining demographics, low value political lesbians and homosexuals. No one else will vote democrat, ever again. They don't even have the non-white male vote anymore.
Anonymous No.82819024
>>82814365 (OP)
You should do something then
Anonymous No.82819037 >>82819155 >>82821739
>>82815735
>Leftism is just as financed by billionaires
LOL
Lmao
He really thinks the right isn't entirely owned and devised by billionaires
Every major billionaire right now is MIGA all the way
Anonymous No.82819155
>>82819037
>Every major billionaire right now is MIGA all the way
Just like they were full Biden and banning Trump off of social media, as well as deplatforming right wingers in general. They side with the victors of the social war.
>He really thinks the right isn't entirely owned and devised by billionaires
Because it isn't. The left isn't entirely owned by billionaires either. Your problem is that you are treating this as a game of
>My side are the good guys, your side the bad guys!
and playing into the same idpol warfare that gets you nowhere, at least from a class warfare perspective. You aren't obliged to play the idpol game; when rightists try to ban transgender surgery, you don't need to feel bad or threatened by it, since it is irrelevant. You aren't obliged to care whether one bourgeois politician from Red-Billionaires wins or another bourgeois politician from Blue-Billionaires wins, since it is also irrelevant. The outcome of the election has no effect on the system itself, you only partake because of the inbred desire to engage in the identity politics of the elections. You can perceive
>neither side cares, but at least trans rights for...
in the same way that a socially conservative proletarian can say
>neither side cares, but at least no woke...
In either case, the outcome offers no solution to capitalism's ills and does not represent a change the system. This is because reform is not how you get to socialism, and this is part of Marxism. You should occupy yourself with something more useful, like masturbating to anime feet, instead of wasting time on culture wars.
Anonymous No.82819537 >>82819562 >>82819645
should have just let white guys alone with thier video games, but noooo
Anonymous No.82819562
>>82819537
fr fr tlhoeverbeit
Anonymous No.82819583 >>82819650
the funny thing is a lot of the retarded wipepoo who voted for this only created hardship for themselves. it's not like republicans care about poor whites more than they do about black people or immigrants. no - they fucking hate all of you and hope you die.
Anonymous No.82819645
>>82819537
exactly. Really, videogames are the only thing we were happy with, the only worlds where there was no globohomo dystopia and they wanted to take that away from us. Our only safe space. You don't corner a man like that and expect nothing to happen.

But alas, this is what happens with evil. You tolerate it for one bit and it takes over. Thats why evil must be eradicated completely.

captcha agrees "NNYGD"
Anonymous No.82819650 >>82819670
>>82819583
>le... le other party of billionaires was... was le GOOD!
Time to go to bed grandpa.
Anonymous No.82819670 >>82819704
>>82819650
le other party of billionaires is at the very least less shit even if they're completely useless at best
Anonymous No.82819704 >>82819737 >>82821754
>>82819670
>less shit
Is according to your personal aims rather than any objective measure. Neither side changes the relation of labor to capital.
Anonymous No.82819737 >>82819747
>>82819704
>bro just do a heckin revolutionerinoo
this is childish
Anonymous No.82819747
>>82819737
No, I'm not saying that. But if you aren't a progressive socialist, then I'm sure you acknowledge that there are other issues than the economical ones. In that case, Trump represents a different set of social interests that conflict with your own, that's all.
Anonymous No.82819750 >>82819795
>>82814365 (OP)
>Election manipulation is only good when I do it!
Anonymous No.82819795
>>82819750
Go jack off in traffic, retard.
Anonymous No.82819888
>>82815317
>gets info from fox news
lmao
Anonymous No.82820691 >>82823371
>both repubs and dems gerrymander the shit out of their states to ensure they stay in power
>there's a special law in place that forbids you from breaking up black electoral areas with gerrymandering to ensure "representation" for black voters (no other ethnic or racial group gets this protection)
>repubs argue that the law should be axed because other laws that exist forbid you from drawing electoral boundaries based on racial status (they really just want to be allowed to gerrymander these areas to get more republican senators)
>dems insist that the law needs to stay as otherwise black citizens will be deprived of equal representation (they're really just scared of losing guaranteed dem senators since blacks overwhelmingly vote for them)

Both sides are clearly just taking the side that benefits them, they don't actually give a shit about integrity or morals or whatever, who fucking cares?
Anonymous No.82821490
>>82815226
>Get called a Nazi my entire life for not thinking faggots rubbing their faces into one anothers assholes in front of children and in schools is acceptable behavior.
>Become a liberal and genuinely believe, like I was told to believe by school and college and society, that we were all created equal and racism is bad.
>My entire life is a circus of Jews and niggers backstabbing me in business every literal opportunity they can
>Eventually just accept that I'm a national socialist and begin supporting anyone who will make the lives of the people who've made my life difficult more difficult in the same way
It's not rocket science, my friend.

I'm a Nazi.

You said so. You've told me my whole life. Us white men have simply started to believe you.
Anonymous No.82821713
>>82814365 (OP)
Oh of course they will hold some branches some times.
I realize most of this discussion is LLMs and bots and NPCs but the way it works in reality is massive swings in voting patterns are like 2nd derivative of the overton window.
We're moving whats normal, far FAR to the right.
The bad news is this is not 1940s germany but the good news is D party is going back to like 1950s era, maybe 1980s at most.
They have too much money and too much desire for power to not alter their party platform to become electable again.
Instead of forcing kids to being trannies for the amusement of their teachers, it'll be stuff like "maybe not beating fags in the streets too often"
Possibly a somewhat sane 1950s immigration policy like Eisenhower's policy.
When the rapid shift rightward ceases, it'll go back to 50:50 two party rule, it'll just be a wildly rightward balance.
The legacy leftists will blow away in the breeze like how hippies disappeared in the 1980s. Somehow the 2030s generation alpha or WTF they're called being retro 1980s yuppies seems hard to believe but its where we're headed. "liberal" being a slur or swear word, normies buying Ford Escort compact cars to drive the kids to soccer practice in the burbs, etc. 80s music was better so we have good arts to look forward to after the purge.
Anonymous No.82821739
>>82819037
Just look up how much money Trump had behind him compared to Biden and Kamala harris
Here's a hint, Hillary Clinton had 3 times as much money behind her as Trump did back in 2016
Anonymous No.82821754
>>82819704
So who is the last politician you supported?
Anonymous No.82821782
>>82818884
The time to fix immigration was the 70s and nobody lifted a finger. Businessmen actually want cheap, ignorant laborers to exploit, who the fuck do think pays them? The immigration fairy?

There's way too many immigrants to even begin some kind of reform now. It would cost $100B to deport every illegal and half of them would be back in a month. It would literally be cheaper to annex Mexico and just reclassify everyone as American.
Anonymous No.82822870
>>82815763
>when the pendulum swings back it'll be a guillotine on the necks of the bourgeois.
How many weeks ? 2 ? Damn...
Anonymous No.82823371
>>82820691
This, and it's a good thing if this passes anyway. For everyone. Dems will likely reciprocate and gerrymander their own states, likely creating seats with dem representatives that aren't broke nigger retards from Louisiana or Alabama. The party IQ goes up, those southern states don't have to deal with those same nigger retards anymore, everybody wins. It didn't make sense to force those seats into existence when a state like new Mexico does no such thing for its white population and has 4 of 4 seats as dem representatives. It's an inconsistency being removed.
Anonymous No.82823870 >>82823894
>>82815068
>too fucking far-right to capture true progressives on anything
in what way are they far right
Anonymous No.82823894
>>82823870
Because they don't cause a revolution and redistribute all money or seize control of the means of production. That means they're far right ultras.
Anonymous No.82823910 >>82823934
>>82815226
>They refuse to let good things happen
Good things like what?
Anonymous No.82823916 >>82823933 >>82823956
I got a warning for racism meanwhile you have multiple racist ass threads directed at white people up right now. This is the type of shit that has to end. The double standards in society has gone on far enough.
Anonymous No.82823933 >>82823956 >>82823959 >>82824179
>>82823916
During the onions party leak, more than half of all jannies and mods were transgender or far left. If you're wondering why this is a far left space, that's why. And funnily enough, one of the tranny jannies from my home board lives less than four miles from me.
Anonymous No.82823934 >>82824023
>>82823910
ubi, universal healthcare, universal childcare, taxing the rich, affordable housing, reducing crime, affordable college, breaking up the tech monopolies, nuking israel
even something as simple as Bernie proposing Medicare for All got massive pushback from the Right for no other reason than they want minorities to suffer even if it means white people are suffering too. it's just pure self-destructive politics.
Anonymous No.82823956
>>82823933
>>82823916
And his linkedin had this on it
>Making an actionable difference in radicalized online spaces
So there are lots of people whose profession is to deradicalize on 4chan as janitors. They may not be paid by 4chan directly, but they may be receiving reimbursement of some form, or at the very least doing it for an ideological/charitable thing.
Anonymous No.82823959 >>82823991 >>82824179
>>82823933
>If you're wondering why this is a far left space
I wish I lived in the fantasy world you're posting from because one look at /pol/ shows this place has gone so far to the right that they're calling Hitler a socialist.
Anonymous No.82823965
>>82814391
even lost the popular vote because of it
kwab
Anonymous No.82823981
>>82815808
>we are doomed to repeat ww2
jews started ww2 then manipulated a bunch of countries to fight for them. same as they do today
Anonymous No.82823991 >>82824120 >>82824492
>>82823959
/pol/ is not a hivemind. Click any thread and there are a lot of dissenting voices. Here's one praising communism: >>>/pol/519071835
I wish I lived in the fantasy world you're posting from, huh?

You can probably find some of the particular evidence online if it isn't bannable to get a good look at who was moderating 4chan at the time. Leftism is heavily represented in the moderation team.
Anonymous No.82824023 >>82824051 >>82824080
>>82823934
>ubi, universal healthcare, universal childcare, affordable housing,
Why should you get free money and free health care? Who is going to pay for that? Why should illegal immigrants get any of this free stuff too?
Anonymous No.82824051 >>82824072 >>82824074
>>82824023
>Why should you get free money and free health care? Who is going to pay for that?
How come your kind are never upset about "free money" going to billionaires but suddenly we can't afford to give nice things to the American people?
Anonymous No.82824057
>>82818935
A lot of Spics voted for Trump despite people like you. We're not whiny, you cry about us existing and then cry more when we speak up for ourselves.
Anonymous No.82824072
>>82824051
>your kind are never upset about "free money" going to billionaires
I am though ?
Anonymous No.82824074 >>82824088 >>82824108 >>82824124
>>82824051
Because you are retarded lmao. If you are given free money what will you do with it? Consume? How many jobs will you create? How much revenue will you bring in? How many people will you employ?

Comparing your shitty self getting free money and wasting it to a billionaire who will provide jobs and contribute to taxed is laughable at best. You are a retard who wants free gibs like every other brown person who doesn't belong here. Go back to your own country.
Anonymous No.82824080 >>82824135 >>82824184
>>82824023
This, and anon acts whites should net benefit no matter what even if these policies succeeded, but many poor whites stand to lose more than gain from rising inter-racial crime, immigration, racist policies against whites like the housing and education grants for immigrants from certain countries (the tax money is lifted from white pockets primarily), etc. as well as the possibility that these blind blanket reforms will actually work and not cause hyperinflationary shocks as in some other socialist states.

Many white people DO NOT stand to gain in any capacity, EVEN IF these policies are enacted during on single democratic term; In reality, whether Kamala was elected or not, not all of these reforms would have happened (to expect such radical revolutionary change in 4 years is unreasonable), but what would have happened is continuing mass immigration, lenience on ethnic criminals, continued policies of discrimination against whites, etc.

And if anon says
>There was no discrimination against whites, it was removal of privilege.
Sure, but do you see how it doesn't benefit white people to make them have a lower status? Even in leftist terms, whites stand to lose. This is why many western Marxists consider ALL or MOST whites, even impoverished, to be part of a racial aristocracy or petty bourgeois.
Anonymous No.82824088 >>82824199
>>82824074
>How many jobs will you create? How much revenue will you bring in? How many people will you employ?
Elon Musk is going to build a new gigafactory with his own reduced personal income tax?
You are a subhuman
Anonymous No.82824108
>>82824074
Consuming goes back into the economy, retard.
Anonymous No.82824120 >>82824135 >>82824149
>>82823991
The loudest voice in /pol/ is the anti-brown, white nationalist voice.
Anonymous No.82824124 >>82824210
>>82824074
>If you are given free money what will you do with it? Consume?
Stimulating the economy
>How many people will you employ?
Rich people don't create jobs, the free market creates jobs based on economic demand.
Anonymous No.82824135 >>82824149 >>82824158
>>82824080
acts like*
a single democratic term*
Phonepostinf, so typos.
>>82824120
This doesn't change anything. Is 4chan far left because we have /lgbt/? Look at this thread, a good half the replies or more are leftist. Look at all threads in /r9k/ and you will see how represented leftism is. This extends to the mod and janny teams.
Anonymous No.82824149 >>82824186
>>82824120
>>82824135
And remember how much dissent there is on /pol/. "Anti-brown white nationalist" is a term you use that encompasses many mutually incompatible views that hate each other.
Anonymous No.82824158 >>82824179
>>82824135
I don't browse /lgbt/ so I don't know what their political stances are.

>Look at this thread
Yeah, r9k is mixed, and /pol/ leans right-wing. It's that simple, retard.
Anonymous No.82824179
>>82824158
>Yeah, r9k is mixed, and /pol/ leans right-wing. It's that simple, retard.
Then the initial point you made to counterargue:
>>82823959
>this place has gone so far to the right that they're calling Hitler a socialist.
"This place", I am sure you don't mean only /pol/ when the topic wasn't only /pol/
>>82823933
>If you're wondering why this is a far left space,
>this
So you don't have a point, imbecile. Why post if you turn around and argue against yourself.
Anonymous No.82824184
>>82824080
>racist policies against whites like the housing and education grants for immigrants from certain countries
don't look into how h1b Indians get free loans to buy gas stations and hotels
Anonymous No.82824186 >>82824195 >>82824291
>>82824149
Lmao, imagine if someone tried to tell you not to group up tankies, democratic socialists, liberals, etc. You would not give that same nuance, because you know they're all lefties. Disingenuous retard.
Anonymous No.82824195 >>82824232
>>82824186
I do distinguish them. Making up a random strawman is not an argument.
Anonymous No.82824199 >>82825625
>>82824088
>reduced personal income tax
Which person in the history of the United States has paid the most in taxes?

KYS low iq SCUM
Anonymous No.82824210
>>82824124
>the free market creates jobs
Is the free market in the room with you right now? Can you point at the free market?
Anonymous No.82824232 >>82824291
>>82824195
You obviously don't when you called this board far-left.
Anonymous No.82824252
>>82814365 (OP)
gerrymandering can backfire if there's a big electoral swing against you, as there's likely to be (Rs don't vote in midterms and there's always a swing against the president's party). you make a bunch of your seats competitive and then you blow them all at once if the polling floor doesn't hold.
Anonymous No.82824291 >>82824343
>>82824232
The argument is that /pol/ isn't
>so far to the right that they're calling Hitler a socialist
and that is wasn't a hivemind, because there are dissenting voices. The argument is against them being
>so far to the right
>>82824186
Here socialists, liberals, etc., can be distinguished while remaining forces thar push the board to the left. Remember that you can be warned and banned for racism, but not for
>Transgender affirmations
>antiracism
>evidently, anti-white racism
and while you consider these non-political human rights issues, they are in fact only non-political because they are normalized to you. Outside of your political norms, they are inherently political because everything is political.

Your argument was that /pol/ is "so far to the right..." but that was false. The only thread on /pol/ with that topic was full of dissent. This thread has no dissent amongst leftists.
Anonymous No.82824343 >>82824492 >>82824516
>>82824291
>remaining forces thar push the board to the left
And you can argue the same for the right-wing types, but like I said, you don't apply the same nuance and just contradicted yourself.

>This thread has no dissent amongst leftists.
This thread is literally you dissenting, wtf is the amongst leftists qualifier LMAO
Anonymous No.82824492 >>82824516
>>82824343
I don't argue that they don't push the board rightwards. Re-read the argument:
>During the onions party leak, more than half of all jannies and mods were transgender or far left. If you're wondering why this is a far left space, that's why.
This space, /r9k/, where you can be banned for racism, and 4chan as a whole, where racism is against the rules except on /b/.
>I wish I lived in the fantasy world you're posting from because one look at /pol/ shows this place has gone so far to the right that they're calling Hitler a socialist.
You then make the argument that rightism on /pol/ means the argument that "this place" is refuted, but this wasn't the argument at all. That's your mistake.
>>82823991
>/pol/ is not a hivemind. Click any thread and there are a lot of dissenting voices. Here's one praising communism: >>>/pol/519071835
Just humoring you, I show that not even /pol/ is a hivemind that is "so far to the right..." because there is dissent even in the thread you refer to. You then make the argument that the loudest voice... therefore far right, but this isn't the point, the only argument is against your initial statement, and that "this place," 4chan on the whole and /r9k/, not /pol/ alone, is far left. If 4chan were far right, then the board for lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgenders would not exist. You cannot point to one instance to prove that the website as a whole is your view, in the same way I can't point to /lgbt/ alone to prove 4chan is leftist.

>And you can argue the same for the right-wing types, but like I said, you don't apply the same nuance
I do. I consider that they all contribute to rightism, but on here and even on /pol/ it isn't enough to say the board or the website as a whole is, as you said, "so far to the right..."
The contradiction is in your head.
Anonymous No.82824516 >>82826560
>>82824343
>>82824492
>This thread is literally you dissenting, wtf is the amongst leftists qualifier LMAO
No dissent between leftists. Leftists constitute a much less diverse body of thought than rightists, unironically, which is why there are a couple instances of rightists arguing against rightist points here, but no leftists arguing against leftist points (thus indicating dissent).

The nuance is applied, and it is relevant in showing that /pol/ isn't "so far to the right..." that is calls Hitler socialist. It is not a far right space, 4chan is not a far right space, /r9k/ is not a far-right space, and you can only be banned for right wing views as per the rules. This indicates an institutionalized leftist slant, obviously.
Anonymous No.82824578 >>82825636
>>82815746
>The point is, republican politics benefit billionaires.
So do democrat policies? Mass immigration drives down wages, and ethnic diversity lowers unionization rates, and deficit budgets impoverish working people while benefiting asset holders.
Anonymous No.82825625 >>82826498
>>82824199
>uhhh he's paid the most so he's going to build a gigafactory with his own money
LMAO
kill yourself, retard
Anonymous No.82825636
>>82824578
I expect a
>Yeah, but...
type of response, as should you.
Anonymous No.82826498 >>82827221
>>82825625
>I should get free money to waste for no reason except I'm special
Anonymous No.82826528
>>82816576
ahahaha, please keep going
Anonymous No.82826560 >>82826671
>>82824516
Per global rules, the only actions that are banned are disrupting the discussion, being a genuine piece of shit to others and believing you (or "your kind") is above everyone else, so you calling 4chan "having a leftist slant" simply calls all right wingers 70 IQ unempathetic narcissists
Anonymous No.82826671
>>82826560
>y-you're m-mean and g-geunuinely evil and... and stupid! waaah
That's you moralizing, it's amusing but not an argument.
Anonymous No.82827221
>>82826498
how about build some fucking libraries and staff people to keep niggers out of them, fuckhead, and improve our infrastructure and schools, and also single payer healthcare which will be much cheaper than dealing with SSDI/medicare/medicaid/15 other different programs
let's start with that, retarded nigger who thinks that cutting their personal income taxes means they're going to invest in a fucking factory on their own dime
Anonymous No.82827305
>>82814818
Libs say they like unions and strikes and shit and they hate scabs but if that scab is brown and from another country? Suddenly we ought to bend over backwards for those brown scabs to drive wages down.
Anonymous No.82827384
>the autist is trying to bait anons into a 500 page dissertation again
not fallin for it